Too true.. This must really ruffle your feathers because you of all people have submitted armfuls of player created content and your works seem more thoughtful than 1/3rd of the attempt made to make season 8 make sense.
Thank you for the compliment, but nobody plays my stuff, except for a spotlight that rewards dilithium. Cryptic seems far more in line with the folks that prefer to shoot fish in a barrel for extra tokens. My missions are for a different game. They are making a MMO, after all. Story, smory.
Thank you for the compliment, but nobody plays my stuff, except for a spotlight that rewards dilithium. Cryptic seems far more in line with the folks that prefer to shoot fish in a barrel for extra tokens. My missions are for a different game. They are making a MMO, after all. Story, smory.
There are those of us who still play and enjoy missions in the Foundry for story. A small fraction of us, but we do exist.
Thank you for the compliment, but nobody plays my stuff, except for a spotlight that rewards dilithium. Cryptic seems far more in line with the folks that prefer to shoot fish in a barrel for extra tokens. My missions are for a different game. They are making a MMO, after all. Story, smory.
You know zombies are super hot right now in entertainment - tv series - comics - movies - and about a dozen video games.
Is there any possible way they could make season 9 about a galactic zombie outbreak??
Too true.. This must really ruffle your feathers because you of all people have submitted armfuls of player created content and your works seem more thoughtful than 1/3rd of the attempt made to make season 8 make sense.
The game's engine may not be great but that's why theme is so important. They really have to sell their product and without the theme it flops in the wind like it's lifelessly flapping now.
It's kinda funny to hear people ***** and whine so much about this Season (though I suppose it wouldn't be STO without half the forum regulars whining and proclaiming DOOOOOOOOOM with every new batch of content...). I've had more fun in this game since the launch of Season 8 than I have in a quite a while. I've had times where I'll make 150-200 Dyson marks without even realizing, in less time than it'd take to the same amount for anything other than Omega marks. Really, my only gripe is that if I need to respawn, they should at least use the transporter pad, so long as it's in Allied control. It's a pretty long run if you're doing the V-Rex fight and you and your boffs get splattered by a mortar barrage.
Dinosaurs are not the issue, it's how they were introduced that seems to make people angriest. For instance, the only voth episode depicts a non violent race, bigoted surely but still non violent and vastly rich in technology. They're also defined in that episode as a race of scientific technologists. Any technologist would have seen war hounds as obsolete by the time they were able to transport an entire ship into the belly of their own.
It's not about dinos, it's about why they're in the game that seems to be stepping on toes. To add insult to injury we've got Geko defending his work by pointing at bad writers in the past episodes as if that's some kind of mandate that makes it all ok.
I dare Geko to bring out my inner child with something legitimately fun and less frustrating than a complete lack of theme, poorly thought out backdrop and even poorer regard for player tastes. I'd welcome that effort which wouldn't be hard at all
It's kinda funny to hear people ***** and whine so much about this Season (though I suppose it wouldn't be STO without half the forum regulars whining and proclaiming DOOOOOOOOOM with every new batch of content...). I've had more fun in this game since the launch of Season 8 than I have in a quite a while. I've had times where I'll make 150-200 Dyson marks without even realizing, in less time than it'd take to the same amount for anything other than Omega marks. Really, my only gripe is that if I need to respawn, they should at least use the transporter pad, so long as it's in Allied control. It's a pretty long run if you're doing the V-Rex fight and you and your boffs get splattered by a mortar barrage.
It's kinda funny to hear people ***** and whine so much at players for pointing out that story is important in an MMO with limited graphical interface. (though I suppose it wouldn't be STO without half of the forum regulars who have no regard for story whatsoever and just want to pew pew their way through stuff not caring why something was put in to begin with). I've had more frustration reading through the story board spelling errors and trying to make sense of why there are 0 borg drones trying to get their hands on omega particles than I care to admit. I suppose though that the new dynamics of ground control are welcomed to the extent that lots of ground maps could benefit from that mechanic and look forward to it's future implementation. Would like to see something similar for space itself.
No, what's funny is watching people ***** and whine about how Dino's aren't Trek while accepting as canon episodes even sillier than the Voth like the:
Cowboy planet
TRIBBLE planet
Roman planet
Greek Gods
Gangster planet
The spirit of Jack the Ripper committing murders over hundreds of years
Miri's duplicate Earth where all the adults died off
Halloween planet where the Enterprise was turned into a necklace
How on a planet hundreds of trillions of miles from Earth the Yankees and Chinese Communists fought world war three and the US Constitution was a holy document.
etc. etc. etc.
I know right. I just laugh because I know that they miss one of the finer points of Star Trek altogether.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] "This is Fleet Commander BumBle!..
Vice Admiral of the U.S.S. Prometheus!..
I order you to lower your shields and weapons or ill be forced to fire upon you!!!"
No, what's funny is watching people ***** and whine about how Dino's aren't Trek while accepting as canon episodes even sillier than the Voth like the:
Cowboy planet
TRIBBLE planet
Roman planet
Greek Gods
Gangster planet
The spirit of Jack the Ripper committing murders over hundreds of years
Miri's duplicate Earth where all the adults died off
Halloween planet where the Enterprise was turned into a necklace
How on a planet hundreds of trillions of miles from Earth the Yankees and Chinese Communists fought world war three and the US Constitution was a holy document.
etc. etc. etc.
None of these examples are as silly to me, since most provided an explanation for the events. You are also referencing lots of TOS with limited budget and backlots, yet somehow Cryptic has succeeded in making something that feels sillier to me than all of these examples. I doubt anyone in the history of mankind will someday be asking, "Gee, what does the use of Dinos and lasers teach us about American reactions to the War on Terror. Yet most of your examples are still relevant to questions about the Cold War. Is it silly? Yeah. Is it utterly pointless? No.
Nobody will be asking those questions of this fluff.
No, what's funny is watching people ***** and whine about how Dino's aren't Trek while accepting as canon episodes even sillier than the Voth like the:
Cowboy planet
TRIBBLE planet
Roman planet
Greek Gods
Gangster planet
The spirit of Jack the Ripper committing murders over hundreds of years
Miri's duplicate Earth where all the adults died off
Halloween planet where the Enterprise was turned into a necklace
How on a planet hundreds of trillions of miles from Earth the Yankees and Chinese Communists fought world war three and the US Constitution was a holy document.
etc. etc. etc.
You're just missing the point and not reading any of the posts, obviously. You don't create bad writing and point back to previous bad writing as a mandate. It's terribly unprofessional and a weak justification at best. That's like getting fired from your job for doing a bad job and justifying it by saying others have done bad jobs as well.
The only difference is that nobody is in jeopardy for doing said bad job. I doubt Geko will get so much as a finger wag.
I had a big long rant here in response, but y'know what? Frak it. I'm just going to go back to playing the game. Thank you for reporting things like dialogue errors and the like, though. That sort of thing really can be rather aggrivating when playing through an otherwise decent Cryptic-made mission. Hopefully they'll take notice of the reports and fix them.
You're just missing the point and not reading any of the posts, obviously. You don't create bad writing and point back to previous bad writing as a mandate. It's terribly unprofessional and a weak justification at best. That's like getting fired from your job for doing a bad job and justifying it by saying others have done bad jobs as well.
The only difference is that nobody is in jeopardy for doing said bad job. I doubt Geko will get so much as a finger wag.
Talk about calling the kettle black. You missed the point of that whole post. Season 8 does not violate any Trek canon anymore than usual. However, what I really don't like is how we are to grind in order to get some story. Again like all of the other adventure zones, there is very little story content.
TNG Outrageousness
Space Jellyfish
Space Whales
Reversed Aged Picard, Ro, and Guinan
DS9 Outrageousness
Troi-Odo Wedding
VOY Outrageousness
Evolved Human Salamanders
Living Nebula
ENT Outrageousness
Space TRIBBLE Part Deux!
Vulcan Snowman
Talk about calling the kettle black. You missed the point of that whole post. Season 8 does not violate any Trek canon anymore than usual. However, what I really don't like is how we are to grind in order to get some story. Again like all of the other adventure zones, there is very little story content.
TNG Outrageousness
Space Jellyfish
Space Whales
Reversed Aged Picard, Ro, and Guinan
DS9 Outrageousness
Troi-Odo Wedding
VOY Outrageousness
Evolved Human Salamanders
Living Nebula
ENT Outrageousness
Space TRIBBLE Part Deux!
Vulcan Snowman
Pot and the kettle? Do you know what that is supposed to mean? I think you're missing the point as well. You do not support bad writing by pointing at previous bad writing. It CAN end somewhere.
Weren't they replicating along the way? Which is why they needed deteurium(sp?) so badly that they ended up on a demon planet and got themselves all cloned in the process? I suppose I could go watch an arm's length of episodes to tie it together but that's all I can recall off hand in this regard.
Weren't they replicating along the way? Which is why they needed deteurium(sp?) so badly that they ended up on a demon planet and got themselves all cloned in the process? I suppose I could go watch an arm's length of episodes to tie it together but that's all I can recall off hand in this regard.
The trouble - and this was a problem with Voyager as a whole - is that they specifically said there was no way to replace them, and then proceeded to ignore the statement completely.
The premise of the show set up a number of limitations and obstacles for the crew to overcome - limited torpedoes, shuttlecraft, and whatever supplies couldn't be replicated (and at one point they even had to ration replicator use, which was the entire point of Neelix's kitchen); a potentially rebellious Maquis crew, etc. They then proceeded to completely disregard all of it, and told generic Star Trek stories for the most part.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
The trouble - and this was a problem with Voyager as a whole - is that they specifically said there was no way to replace them, and then proceeded to ignore the statement completely.
The premise of the show set up a number of limitations and obstacles for the crew to overcome - limited torpedoes, shuttlecraft, and whatever supplies couldn't be replicated (and at one point they even had to ration replicator use, which was the entire point of Neelix's kitchen); a potentially rebellious Maquis crew, etc. They then proceeded to completely disregard all of it, and told generic Star Trek stories for the most part.
Well, my take was the Janeway's statement really meant "no way to replace them with the materials on hand". 3 years later and who knows what they've managed to find?
Well, my take was the Janeway's statement really meant "no way to replace them with the materials on hand". 3 years later and who knows what they've managed to find?
You're not wrong, but you'd think that's the sort of thing they could devote an episode (or, y'know, a line) to.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
You're not wrong, but you'd think that's the sort of thing they could devote an episode (or, y'know, a line) to.
This sort of thing was discussed in that ep with the Cardassian drone ship. Janeway wanted to strip it for spare parts. I forget just what she said though... however, in the end the drone ship exploded and there were no spare parts to be had. anyways, supply issues were a large part of that ep.
You're not wrong, but you'd think that's the sort of thing they could devote an episode (or, y'know, a line) to.
You can tell in the last season it was more of a skip-through until the end. The plug went without renewal. At least I can remember more phasers than torpedo action being used. I guess your guess is as good as anyone's excuse.
You forgot the 38 photon torpedoes that voyager couldn't replenish but never ran out of.
I honestly don't find that too hard to justify. A photon torpedo is just a guided missile with a matter/antimatter warhead. Once they got their replicator mass supply problem worked out (which must've happened offscreen), the only tricky part would be the antimatter.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Once they got their replicator mass supply problem worked out (which must've happened offscreen), the only tricky part would be the antimatter.
As I said, in my opinion, the "must've happened offscreen" part is the true problem.
Baking a series of challenges and limitations into the premise of a TV show, and then proceeding to ignore nearly all of them, is simply bad storytelling.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
As I said, in my opinion, the "must've happened offscreen" part is the true problem.
Baking a series of challenges and limitations into the premise of a TV show, and then proceeding to ignore nearly all of them, is simply bad storytelling.
I wouldn't exactly call it an unforgivable sin, but it is annoying. they did show them building a bunch of stuff, but I think the real issue was that the episodes were too self-contained. Writers only referenced things if they felt they had to and by doing so left a bunch of unanswered questions.
I wouldn't exactly call it an unforgivable sin, but it is annoying.
Totally fair. I'm pretty harsh on that show because I didn't enjoy it much (there are a few good episodes, but I was frustrated by the series much more often than I was entertained by it).
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
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Thank you for the compliment, but nobody plays my stuff, except for a spotlight that rewards dilithium. Cryptic seems far more in line with the folks that prefer to shoot fish in a barrel for extra tokens. My missions are for a different game. They are making a MMO, after all. Story, smory.
There are those of us who still play and enjoy missions in the Foundry for story. A small fraction of us, but we do exist.
You know zombies are super hot right now in entertainment - tv series - comics - movies - and about a dozen video games.
Is there any possible way they could make season 9 about a galactic zombie outbreak??
So... the Borg?
It's kinda funny to hear people ***** and whine so much about this Season (though I suppose it wouldn't be STO without half the forum regulars whining and proclaiming DOOOOOOOOOM with every new batch of content...). I've had more fun in this game since the launch of Season 8 than I have in a quite a while. I've had times where I'll make 150-200 Dyson marks without even realizing, in less time than it'd take to the same amount for anything other than Omega marks. Really, my only gripe is that if I need to respawn, they should at least use the transporter pad, so long as it's in Allied control. It's a pretty long run if you're doing the V-Rex fight and you and your boffs get splattered by a mortar barrage.
Dinosaurs are not the issue, it's how they were introduced that seems to make people angriest. For instance, the only voth episode depicts a non violent race, bigoted surely but still non violent and vastly rich in technology. They're also defined in that episode as a race of scientific technologists. Any technologist would have seen war hounds as obsolete by the time they were able to transport an entire ship into the belly of their own.
It's not about dinos, it's about why they're in the game that seems to be stepping on toes. To add insult to injury we've got Geko defending his work by pointing at bad writers in the past episodes as if that's some kind of mandate that makes it all ok.
I dare Geko to bring out my inner child with something legitimately fun and less frustrating than a complete lack of theme, poorly thought out backdrop and even poorer regard for player tastes. I'd welcome that effort which wouldn't be hard at all
It's kinda funny to hear people ***** and whine so much at players for pointing out that story is important in an MMO with limited graphical interface. (though I suppose it wouldn't be STO without half of the forum regulars who have no regard for story whatsoever and just want to pew pew their way through stuff not caring why something was put in to begin with). I've had more frustration reading through the story board spelling errors and trying to make sense of why there are 0 borg drones trying to get their hands on omega particles than I care to admit. I suppose though that the new dynamics of ground control are welcomed to the extent that lots of ground maps could benefit from that mechanic and look forward to it's future implementation. Would like to see something similar for space itself.
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I know right. I just laugh because I know that they miss one of the finer points of Star Trek altogether.
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"This is Fleet Commander BumBle!..
Vice Admiral of the U.S.S. Prometheus!..
I order you to lower your shields and weapons or ill be forced to fire upon you!!!"
None of these examples are as silly to me, since most provided an explanation for the events. You are also referencing lots of TOS with limited budget and backlots, yet somehow Cryptic has succeeded in making something that feels sillier to me than all of these examples. I doubt anyone in the history of mankind will someday be asking, "Gee, what does the use of Dinos and lasers teach us about American reactions to the War on Terror. Yet most of your examples are still relevant to questions about the Cold War. Is it silly? Yeah. Is it utterly pointless? No.
Nobody will be asking those questions of this fluff.
You're just missing the point and not reading any of the posts, obviously. You don't create bad writing and point back to previous bad writing as a mandate. It's terribly unprofessional and a weak justification at best. That's like getting fired from your job for doing a bad job and justifying it by saying others have done bad jobs as well.
The only difference is that nobody is in jeopardy for doing said bad job. I doubt Geko will get so much as a finger wag.
I had a big long rant here in response, but y'know what? Frak it. I'm just going to go back to playing the game. Thank you for reporting things like dialogue errors and the like, though. That sort of thing really can be rather aggrivating when playing through an otherwise decent Cryptic-made mission. Hopefully they'll take notice of the reports and fix them.
Talk about calling the kettle black. You missed the point of that whole post. Season 8 does not violate any Trek canon anymore than usual. However, what I really don't like is how we are to grind in order to get some story. Again like all of the other adventure zones, there is very little story content.
TNG Outrageousness
Space Jellyfish
Space Whales
Reversed Aged Picard, Ro, and Guinan
DS9 Outrageousness
Troi-Odo Wedding
VOY Outrageousness
Evolved Human Salamanders
Living Nebula
ENT Outrageousness
Space TRIBBLE Part Deux!
Vulcan Snowman
Just where have you been hiding the past 4 months? This is VERY old knowledge by now.
Pot and the kettle? Do you know what that is supposed to mean? I think you're missing the point as well. You do not support bad writing by pointing at previous bad writing. It CAN end somewhere.
Talk about clueless.
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The trouble - and this was a problem with Voyager as a whole - is that they specifically said there was no way to replace them, and then proceeded to ignore the statement completely.
The premise of the show set up a number of limitations and obstacles for the crew to overcome - limited torpedoes, shuttlecraft, and whatever supplies couldn't be replicated (and at one point they even had to ration replicator use, which was the entire point of Neelix's kitchen); a potentially rebellious Maquis crew, etc. They then proceeded to completely disregard all of it, and told generic Star Trek stories for the most part.
My character Tsin'xing
You're not wrong, but you'd think that's the sort of thing they could devote an episode (or, y'know, a line) to.
My character Tsin'xing
You can tell in the last season it was more of a skip-through until the end. The plug went without renewal. At least I can remember more phasers than torpedo action being used. I guess your guess is as good as anyone's excuse.
I honestly don't find that too hard to justify. A photon torpedo is just a guided missile with a matter/antimatter warhead. Once they got their replicator mass supply problem worked out (which must've happened offscreen), the only tricky part would be the antimatter.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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As I said, in my opinion, the "must've happened offscreen" part is the true problem.
Baking a series of challenges and limitations into the premise of a TV show, and then proceeding to ignore nearly all of them, is simply bad storytelling.
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