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T2 Boss Fights are almost Impossible! "I feel like Quiting"
alacardias1
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First of all, I have been playing MMORPGs for a while. Conducted Raids on Vanilla WoW with 40 men. But, I have never ever had to deal with so many issues in just Epic Dungeons like these.
The group I just went with inside of a T2 dungeon got all the way to the boss without any issues. No wipes a few deaths but nothing to worry about. But, when we got to the boss fight; it seemed like none of us had gear to even try.
Cryptic, if your goal was to make a game that is so difficult that gamers do not enjoy; you have achieved your goal.
If there is no change on scaling down the boss fights in the next patches, seems that I will have to find another game!
The group I just went with inside of a T2 dungeon got all the way to the boss without any issues. No wipes a few deaths but nothing to worry about. But, when we got to the boss fight; it seemed like none of us had gear to even try.
Cryptic, if your goal was to make a game that is so difficult that gamers do not enjoy; you have achieved your goal.
If there is no change on scaling down the boss fights in the next patches, seems that I will have to find another game!
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Generally from my about a week of experience doing 60 epics all groups fail because of poor play. Not adds, not game mechanics not anything else but their own inexperience and failings. This game demands everyone in the party contribute. Which is a really really good thing. Besides a good number of feats,skills,items not working as advertised PvE in this game is great.
Epic Dread Vault and Castle Never are a different story.
The ones that actually differ and have some interesting things about them (like the brain, that big oturgh, etc.) tend to have *agonizing* levels of health. I do NOT enjoy 15+ minute fights where the very real possibility of failure at any moment exists. I spent about an hour past what I expected to the other day simply due to the length of the fight, trying to down the end boss. I remember this being a problem in several skirmishes along the way; I forget which one it was - assaulting up some broken castle across rope bridges and the like - but it was a ridiculous amount of health on what is a completely boring encounter. My god, and I even did it a 2nd time thanks to the daily incrementing to two, and we ended up losing a dps along the way and doing it with 4 people.
These aren't interesting mechanics at all. I enjoyed the *concept* of the Oturgh boss - the adds being knocked off, but being empowered if near the boss, makes for some more interest than normal, but still. Even that "knock the adds off while fighting the boss' idea gets reused several times as a CORE COMPONENT - the spider queen portion makes this essential as well.
"You know you wanna fondle my dragons."
Also my group does not cheese bosses or knock stuff off edges. Nor do we do anything stupid like kite and kill no adds and then only kill them after boss.
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Why solo? take a good guess.
We've done all the dungeons with any group setup. In fact, we recently tried this 2 clerics setup for the first time last night, and to be honest that needs to be fixed asap because it is trivializing content, you can literally stand in 90%+ of red in this game as long as you have 2 shields.
The only exceptions as someone else said are last boss in Castle Never and Dread Vault. For the record, every boss in Castle Never besides last boss was 1-2 shot by our group with 1 cleric 1 tank 2 rogues 1 cw, its that easy. Later on when we tried them with 2 clerics i can honestly say solo questing is harder than those 3 bosses.
So for the love of god do not say it is impossible just because you cant do it, if it has been done by the majority that makes it not impossible. Don't ruin this game.
I really don't have a problem with the way anyone chooses to do a dungeon, whether it be knocking off adds, using 2 shields, running super CC/DPS, what have you. If they did change the way shields work, you'd still see 2 cleric setups just separate circles with a different cleric in each (so that they are receiving full benefits from the healing).
Find a guild and try do the harder content with geared players. By geared I mean Rank 5 or higher slotted enchantments, proper spec, low ping, communications etc.
These dungeons are tier 2, they are designed to be harder and punishing for improper gear management or spec.
I spent weeks trying to clear heroics in WoW back in the day with friends, they were brutal. But god were they fun, and you learn from it.
If you absolutely can't join a guild, spam run some tier 1, get some tokens, and get the absolute BiS tier 1 / 1.5 gear so then you have a nice healthy 9k++ Gearscore before touching tier 2. Make sure your specs fine, polished, and overall step up the game.
It's meant to be hard, and yes people can say other classes use cheaper tactics to win, but they coordinate just like anyone else would. There's plenty of every class of every player clearing tier 2.
You just need to put in more effort man, that's what I think.
My 2c.
Shard: Mindflayer
Characters: Grim, Rune, Holy, Ruin - If the name isn't the @FearGXxD handle, it's not me!
I don't want to group, why? loot/reward is garbage if I group.
I could solo dungeons if I was 5 levels higher, but now it's garbage.
I don't want those millions of spawns at a boss fights.
And I don't have learn issue by the way.
And greiffers now have more chance to greif, thank you very much perfect world for that.
I'd bring a tank instead of 2nd cleric when they fix it. There are tanks that can actually tank in this game, they are few though. They also give nice support debuffs and stuff.
Its designed for groups...
Exactly why this game only has three classes you can play right now.
Our group consists of GF, DC, CW, CW, TR. We have done every fight by either having the tank on the boss and the rest of the group on add duty until the tank + occasional attacks from the dps kills the boss. Or we have the cleric kite the adds with the CW's killing ranged adds and everyone else on the boss to kill it before the cleric gets overran.
The fights in this game are a joke, they are all the same encounter with different models:
Boss - easy to avoid melee attack, easy to avoid circles and cones.
Adds - spawn on a timer, and also spawn at set % of the bosses HP, normally a big wave on the pull and at 66% and 33%.
If your group is capable of chaining CC properly, smoke bomb>steal time>steal time> singularity > smoke bomb, etc. Adds barely get a chance to do an attack and they all melt to the sustained aoe dps of the rogue and CW's.
Cleared all DC, CW, GF, TR, CW alot of fights are harder if you can't move around and rely on the stacked DC Astral. x2 Cleric is a crutch you don't need.
There should be rp server for high difficulty, normal servers should be for normal difficulty.
RP server should be as difficult in open world as it was in dungeons on normal servers one week before this change, and dungeons should be harder on RP servers.
If anyone who want to play on extra hard mode? they'd be joining RP server.
Don't make this garbage play for everyone.
Sorry.
How ****ty are the rest of the bosses when Mad Dragon ends up being kinda awesome?