I'd get your defense up to at least ~2k if you can (defensive rings or something) so when adds come and punch you in the face, you don't die
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shutemd0wnMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 13Arc User
edited June 2013
Cheers
One more question if you don't mind. What rings/gear would you recommend to up my defense without gimping my crit, or what are you currently using?
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mallonslefrMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited June 2013
Seriously how you can have those stats, so much crit and recovery with a high power and that huge defense.
I have 4.8k power, 3.6k crit 3.2k recovery, and a sad 1006 defense, and if i focus my defense, i'll loose all my crit and recovery
and i still use 2 differents set to get double 2 pieces bonus, i have a Ioun stone at giving me around 800 crit/recovery 700 power. All my enchants are lvl 6. So seriously beside the shirt and pants which are blue, i have nothing else to upgrade.
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shutemd0wnMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 13Arc User
Post # 429 is a picture of the gear I'm using currently - also add on to that the runestones/gear on my Ioun stone.
Using a +defense in the Ioun defense runestone slot, and every enchant/runestone I have is rank 7 or higher. Ancient weapon set is also an extra 450 power!
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shutemd0wnMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 13Arc User
edited June 2013
Ahhhh. Buying the stone pet now, cheers again mate
I am still a bit undecided when it comes to defence vs HP.
I generally go for HP in the defence slot but I haven't done a lot of testing in terms of what kind of damage is dominant and what negates it.
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mallonslefrMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited June 2013
well, its basicly the same thing HP vs defense in any game.
You can have 5000000000 Hp but you will still eat slaps at tons of damage, your defense will reduce it and that's why i believe that if you don't have a minimum of defense, i would say 2k, then don't go for HP.
I am running this build on a Half-Elf, so for a non-human which 3 feats would you suggest dropping?
Obviously a non-human can't have 5/5 bountiful fortune and 1/5 cleanse, so that is one saved (I assume non-humans go 4/5 BF and 1/3 C), but what about the other two points? Since 5 points are need in the first rank of feats to access higher ranks, then 3/3 Greater Fortune and 2/3 Toughness seems sensible, but I am not sure where to remove the final point.
What do u think about Holy Avenger? Its okay, huge cooldown but after this "major patch" (tanks get more threat, and whole add packs on him, mabye (?)) I think the the damage reduction its necessary. Or im wrong? Cause I dont think the +% crit sev. its a "huge buff" for a heals (its like 50 max 100 heal maybe), but the damage reduction is good. No more 2 clerics setup (im solo healer, so im never do with 2 clerics) so "we" need more DR.
Deistik, what do you think of the crit cleric with the incoming patch, I dont know but I have the feeling that actual power and skills and masteries enhancing the heals would offer more heals
I've done some T2's and I felt healing less, so i first thought it was because of the AS nerf but then i started watching my crits, and it seems like my heals don't crit as my as they were on the live server.
I thought maybe some issue with the crit ( i have 42% crit chance ) so my attacks crits, and it crit a lot, after astral seal, it does crit, but when it's about heal from abilities it does but like 1/10 time even less
I think I've flip-flopped on crit builds again. Looks like Repurpose Soul might be the only available thing to try to bring our healing back in line with the AS nerf, considering how poorly power scales.
well, its basicly the same thing HP vs defense in any game.
You can have 5000000000 Hp but you will still eat slaps at tons of damage, your defense will reduce it and that's why i believe that if you don't have a minimum of defense, i would say 2k, then don't go for HP.
The difference is that HP helps with any damage type while defense might only work against a specific incoming damage (non magic, magic etc..). That's the reason I said I did not test it properly.
I currently finished whole Castle Never.
11.5k GS, missing my ancient rings & blue belt
I am using 2p+2p bonus with soulforged
CN weapon & offhand with Vorpal enchantment
about 5k power 3,7k crit & 3,8k recovery.
PvP I dominate things, PvE u solo heal everything without problem.
If anyone want to know more of my build just ask, its basicly same as Deistik but with my own magic to it
I just hit 60 with pretty much this build and am wondering how it will fare with the new changes come... kinda expecting to have to respec, no biggie but wonder how people are making out.
Yes you are supposed to put in STR and CHA every 10 levels since this build tries to max the crit and recovery efficiency. Not sure if it will stay that way since at least to me it seems the new changes are trying to force you to build power (instead of recovery), but i'd like to hear thoughts from someone more experienced. How will the changes effect this build and will str and cha remain the most important ability scores on clerics ?
I solo heal 1 shot draco like 50 times a day thx to the new speed
But normal runs ya I just solo heal in my sleep, hardly ever die. I never wipe, even in pvp, I'm nearly unkillable.
12.6k not counting pet.
If you want to see me heal like an all-star watch me on twitch, i'm usually on flyyyyyyyyy13's stream, i don't have my own channel yet
Seyfried on Dragon
Hey Mr. "im the best solo healer in the world". Yes, u have this status. Wake up Neo, ur not. U r just ridiculous.
WOW, u can solo heal the CN? YES, you are the best. I have more GS than you (+500) and yes, I CAN SOLO HEAL CASTLE NEVER. U can do a same thing, like me or other clerics. So, no, you are not the best HAMSTER healer in the world. U r just a child.
I would have said it nicer than that... but yea. There's plenty of people that can solo heal everything in the game (for now). Posting on my build thread how you're so great and people should watch you stream what most of us can do... I don't know what the point of that was
I've done enough on preview shard to say this build will still be pretty viable after patches, with a few small changes. Going to hold off changing anything until we know exactly what's going to stay and what's not for cleric changes.
Hi deistik, many thanks for your guide, it helped me a lot to build my dc from scratch after having a bad experience with gwf. I just want to ask you one thing about gear. I'm actually using two pieces from miracle and two from grand templar for crit bonus. Why you suggest to use beacon insead if (from what i understand) power is pretty useless?
Hey Mr. "im the best solo healer in the world". Yes, u have this status. Wake up Neo, ur not. U r just ridiculous.
WOW, u can solo heal the CN? YES, you are the best. I have more GS than you (+500) and yes, I CAN SOLO HEAL CASTLE NEVER. U can do a same thing, like me or other clerics. So, no, you are not the best HAMSTER healer in the world. U r just a child.
peace.
Do you 3 man Dracolich? Wonder how many people do that I do now. Guess I'm no special snowflake.
I don't even queue up as 4 or 5 people anymore, we just kick the extra 2 for better odds at AD.
BiS DC Seyfried - PvP / CN farm (Dragon Server) 1st Degree Burns
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Just wondering what your defense is at though? I seem to be getting smashed by adds
My defense is currently sitting on about 1.4k, is it still worth trying to hit 2K or stick with crit/recovery?
One more question if you don't mind. What rings/gear would you recommend to up my defense without gimping my crit, or what are you currently using?
I have 4.8k power, 3.6k crit 3.2k recovery, and a sad 1006 defense, and if i focus my defense, i'll loose all my crit and recovery
and i still use 2 differents set to get double 2 pieces bonus, i have a Ioun stone at giving me around 800 crit/recovery 700 power. All my enchants are lvl 6. So seriously beside the shirt and pants which are blue, i have nothing else to upgrade.
This is exactly the same issue I'm experiencing.
If you would post a screenshot of your gear or list some recommendations I'd appreciate it
Using a +defense in the Ioun defense runestone slot, and every enchant/runestone I have is rank 7 or higher. Ancient weapon set is also an extra 450 power!
I generally go for HP in the defence slot but I haven't done a lot of testing in terms of what kind of damage is dominant and what negates it.
You can have 5000000000 Hp but you will still eat slaps at tons of damage, your defense will reduce it and that's why i believe that if you don't have a minimum of defense, i would say 2k, then don't go for HP.
Obviously a non-human can't have 5/5 bountiful fortune and 1/5 cleanse, so that is one saved (I assume non-humans go 4/5 BF and 1/3 C), but what about the other two points? Since 5 points are need in the first rank of feats to access higher ranks, then 3/3 Greater Fortune and 2/3 Toughness seems sensible, but I am not sure where to remove the final point.
What do u think about Holy Avenger? Its okay, huge cooldown but after this "major patch" (tanks get more threat, and whole add packs on him, mabye (?)) I think the the damage reduction its necessary. Or im wrong? Cause I dont think the +% crit sev. its a "huge buff" for a heals (its like 50 max 100 heal maybe), but the damage reduction is good. No more 2 clerics setup (im solo healer, so im never do with 2 clerics) so "we" need more DR.
Correct me, If im wrong
** btw, Miracle set 4/4 is still bugged?
I've done some T2's and I felt healing less, so i first thought it was because of the AS nerf but then i started watching my crits, and it seems like my heals don't crit as my as they were on the live server.
I thought maybe some issue with the crit ( i have 42% crit chance ) so my attacks crits, and it crit a lot, after astral seal, it does crit, but when it's about heal from abilities it does but like 1/10 time even less
The difference is that HP helps with any damage type while defense might only work against a specific incoming damage (non magic, magic etc..). That's the reason I said I did not test it properly.
11.5k GS, missing my ancient rings & blue belt
I am using 2p+2p bonus with soulforged
CN weapon & offhand with Vorpal enchantment
about 5k power 3,7k crit & 3,8k recovery.
PvP I dominate things, PvE u solo heal everything without problem.
If anyone want to know more of my build just ask, its basicly same as Deistik but with my own magic to it
But normal runs ya I just solo heal in my sleep, hardly ever die. I never wipe, even in pvp, I'm nearly unkillable.
12.6k not counting pet.
If you want to see me heal like an all-star
Seyfried on Dragon
twitch.tv/redeclipze
Thanks
what i should add as each level ? STR and CHA ? Or what ?
Thanks
Hey Mr. "im the best solo healer in the world". Yes, u have this status. Wake up Neo, ur not. U r just ridiculous.
WOW, u can solo heal the CN? YES, you are the best. I have more GS than you (+500) and yes, I CAN SOLO HEAL CASTLE NEVER. U can do a same thing, like me or other clerics. So, no, you are not the best HAMSTER healer in the world. U r just a child.
peace.
I've done enough on preview shard to say this build will still be pretty viable after patches, with a few small changes. Going to hold off changing anything until we know exactly what's going to stay and what's not for cleric changes.
Do you 3 man Dracolich? Wonder how many people do that I do now. Guess I'm no special snowflake.
I don't even queue up as 4 or 5 people anymore, we just kick the extra 2 for better odds at AD.
twitch.tv/redeclipze
Yes we do, all time. Dude, not just you can do it. Are u just kidding me right? Its easy as ****.
Thanks!