So you're leaving over Voth dinosaurs but you have no problem with Greek Gods, Omnipotent Children, whale-talking probes, time travel, tribbles, TRIBBLE in space, psionic Romans in space, Preserver planet-ships full of American Indians, Zombie Robots, Soong androids scattered around the galaxy, and about a hundred other things in Trek that are just as strange? Really?
Have a nice vacation. I don't think I'll be missing you.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Very spooky 'old-school' connection there. Could it be that Geko had some strange form of subconscious nostalgia? Now I am scratching my head about this Voth idea. No offense to anyone.
I'm just gonna say it. Voth Boff/Doff. I want them. Howsabout one as a FE reward on top of that new carrier, or the last mission in the episode series?
Also, I want that silvery armor on the left in the first picture. And either the T rex or the Mech as a combat pet. Or both. Please make at least one not a consumable. The other can be a fleet reinforcement or something. Or from the rep system. You've got a trillion different ways to make it work, I believe in you, devs.
Edit: FIRST! ....Also, since when are we able to comment on dev blogs again?
As if the Power Ranger jokes weren't bad enough before, can you imagine someone in full Red OMEGA gear shouting "TYRANNOSAURS!" as they summon their T-Rex combat pet.
So you're leaving over Voth dinosaurs but you have no problem with Greek Gods, Omnipotent Children, whale-talking probes, time travel, tribbles, TRIBBLE in space, psionic Romans in space, Preserver planet-ships full of American Indians, Zombie Robots, Soong androids scattered around the galaxy, and about a hundred other things in Trek that are just as strange? Really?
I don't have a problem with the Voth per say..,
But the presentation so far, is rather cartoony at this point.
(I wouldn't use 'childish' to describe it, but it is kinda 'child-like' in nature)
Perhaps when I actually see what They put in the game, it will be more appealing.
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With each passing day I wonder if I stepped into an alternate reality. The Cubs win the world series. Donald Trump is President. Britain leaves the EU. STO gets a dedicated PvP season. Engineers are "out of control" in STO.
The most important thing is that Cryptic is entering a great circle of developers who embrace creating wildly varying enemy groups. The fact that they're dinosaurs is silly but who cares, as long as they rarely release such silly stuff the game will benefit from it.
Interestingly, this is Star Treks chance to experiment with how aliens would react to the treatment and relationship with a species or a comparable genus to their own. Like how would an evolved fish species deal with the fact that we eat fish?
Also, big lulz for the guy complaining about untrainable dinosaurs when mind control technology can be whipped up in a snap by a Ferengi on Terok Nor.
Very spooky 'old-school' connection there. Could it be that Geko had some strange form of subconscious nostalgia? Now I am scratching my head about this Voth idea. No offense to anyone.
My reaction on seeing that devblog was "what. the. f**k.".
The voth, sure I'd love to see them. I'd love to see new variants of voth. But not ones that are absolutely unbelievable and simply don't fit in with trek. Yes, I'm talking about the second image in devblog #4, the one with the raptor and the t'rex.
I must admit to rather liking the first shot. No, I love it. The third shot I'm not too fond of, it's pretty much generic sci-fi rather than screaming "trek" but the idea of powered armour in game does have merit. My issue with this shot in particular, is that if the STO logo were removed and it was put in front of someone with little knowledge of sci-fi they would simply say "robots" or "big stompy things" that belong in some "sci fi flick".
Which brings me to my issue with this game as of late. It has moved in a direction where it is less and less identifiable as trek each major update, but without getting to the core of the problems with gameplay. This game, without the name "Star trek online" would simply be an anonymous sci-fi based mmo with some bumpy headed/pointed eared people that may or may not have been inspired by Star trek.
That's the real crux of the issue isn't it? An emphasis on the superficial instead of actually improving the usability of the game as well as mitigating the incredible steepness of the learning curve and dealing with the numerous bugs and quirks in the game. Papering the cracks as it were.
New content is great when it fits and there's a good steady foundation to built it on, but if the content doesn't fit properly or the foundation isn't steady then it doesn't work as it should. What's worse is that this game still doesn't seem to be what it should have been on release almost 4 years ago.
I will be stopping play for some time. I will be watching the devblogs, but I don't think I'll be returning to play any time soon. But you never know.
Post of the day/thread. So much for Season 8. Stay tuned for Season 9: Monkey Rodeo! That is if this game is lucky enough to survive until then.
I like the idea of having all these new classes to fight. The standard soldier, powersuit soldiers, mechs, and dinosaurs. I hope Cryptic is able to explain how the Voth became the main antagonists for the next season. I mean they go from from being scientists in Voyager to becoming the next main enemy faction in a little over 30 years on the Star Trek timeline.
I will be stopping play for some time. I will be watching the devblogs, but I don't think I'll be returning to play any time soon. But you never know.
EDIT Bah, who am I kidding. No buggers going to take this seriously.
The thing about the 2nd shot, is the dinos just don't seem clever enough. They seem to be all teeth, but no brains to back it up. They seem dangerous but not ominous. You need a balance of both.
Yeah, I am also going to sit back.
I have to remember that "Star Trek: Online" is a video game for kids. I should not be taking the game too seriously. Before I reinstall the game, I will watch the developer blogs.
I am in my second week without playing. I hope there is better news.
I will wait for more developer blogs, so I can make a more informed decision.
The evidence is so striking. Seems to be the same industry gimmick throughout modern history of franchise and merchandising. The perpetuating question is, what kind of audience is this supposed to reach? The answer (to me) is obvious. There was an avenue to come up with all kinds of possibilities for the next season of STO. Why did they set their hearts on this old gimmick? I'm only questioning the true reason for this, not ranting or debating.
So now we've got mech enemies, howsabout we get ourselves some bazookas to blow them up with, maybe as a rep reward?
With the new ground weapon ammo thing, it could play an interesting role in perhaps a new gorund Voth STF in which the bazooka is an exploit weapon and, with limited ammo, its extra handy in taking down a Voth Mech boss.
So now we've got mech enemies, howsabout we get ourselves some bazookas to blow them up with, maybe as a rep reward?
With the new ground weapon ammo thing, it could play an interesting role in perhaps a new gorund Voth STF in which the bazooka is an exploit weapon and, with limited ammo, its extra handy in taking down a Voth Mech boss.
I could go with that. Always wondered why the Federation isn't using that phaseooka from Insurrection.
I like the idea of having all these new classes to fight. The standard soldier, powersuit soldiers, mechs, and dinosaurs. I hope Cryptic is able to explain how the Voth became the main antagonists for the next season. I mean they go from from being scientists in Voyager to becoming the next main enemy faction in a little over 30 years on the Star Trek timeline.
I hope they don't ruin the explaination.
The Voth on the ship weren't the only Voth in the galaxy. That's like saying the Borg in the first cube the Enterprise D encountered were all the Borg in the galaxy.
The Romulans and Vulcans had major divergences in only a couple of millennia. Over 65 million years Voth on different ships could have huge evolutionary divergences. The Voth in the Dyson Sphere could be quite socially different then the Voth the Voyager met.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I now question whether we need another Lead Designer, because clearly the game is heading into fantasy, rather than sc-fi Trek.....
Back in the day I probably thought the same thing about Gene Roddenberry when Kirk was fighting psionic Romans in space.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
No kidding! I'm hoping they've got a pterosaur with dhc's and a torp launcher! That'd be the stuff! lol.
Rofl I bet they working on it now ... Yep Dinosaurs return with vengeance .. Duel cannons phasers wow how did they evolve captain I don't know O_o....:D
Back in the day I probably thought the same thing about Gene Roddenberry when Kirk was fighting psionic Romans in space.
I guess there was a reason why TOS only lasted 3 seasons. If it weren't for The Wrath of Khan this franchise would be long gone. How this game is surviving is beyond me. Oh right...lockboxes!
I guess there was a reason why TOS only lasted 3 seasons. If it weren't for The Wrath of Khan this franchise would be long gone. How this game is surviving is beyond me. Oh right...lockboxes!
Don't forget the dinos they will support them as well ... Best thing ever :cool:
I guess there was a reason why TOS only lasted 3 seasons. If it weren't for The Wrath of Khan this franchise would be long gone. How this game is surviving is beyond me. Oh right...lockboxes!
Should we talk about TNG and being possessed by ancient "gods" while the crew wore their masks? How about all the lighthearted episodes Q was in? They were all done for comedy. How about the episode where all the crew de-evolved and Worf was essentially an ogre? The crew in Sherwood Forest?
The point is each series had wacky things in them. Trek wasn't always all serious. It used humor, drama, angst, guilt, and so on just like most other TV shows.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Should we talk about TNG and being possessed by ancient "gods" while the crew wore their masks? How about all the lighthearted episodes Q was in? They were all done for comedy. How about the episode where all the crew de-evolved and Worf was essentially an ogre? The crew in Sherwood Forest?
The point is each series had wacky things in them. Trek wasn't always all serious. It used humor, drama, angst, guilt, and so on just like most other TV shows.
yes yes when you fight those dinos say to them today is good day to die then look up and prepare your disrupters XD
Should we talk about TNG and being possessed by ancient "gods" while the crew wore their masks? How about all the lighthearted episodes Q was in? They were all done for comedy. How about the episode where all the crew de-evolved and Worf was essentially an ogre? The crew in Sherwood Forest?
The point is each series had wacky things in them. Trek wasn't always all serious. It used humor, drama, angst, guilt, and so on just like most other TV shows.
Well I agree, but I think STO already has its share of wacky things. Star Trek has become like a sick dog, suffering through things like JJ-Trek and STO. Maybe it's time to put Old Yeller down.
I like the idea of having all these new classes to fight. The standard soldier, powersuit soldiers, mechs, and dinosaurs. I hope Cryptic is able to explain how the Voth became the main antagonists for the next season. I mean they go from from being scientists in Voyager to becoming the next main enemy faction in a little over 30 years on the Star Trek timeline.
I hope they don't ruin the explaination.
What explanation do you think is necessary? The scientists were basically outcasts. The ones in power were pretty much the Space Taliban. Exactly the types the Federation wouldn't get along with.
Could it be that Janeway pizzed them off/unnerved them so badly, that they went into overdrive with their Military buildup and this is the result??
They might even have gotten wind of the "Warship Voyager" story that was being bandied about the quadrant and decided to do something about it to quell those rumors.
:cool:
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Yup. You still drinking koolaid?
Have a nice vacation. I don't think I'll be missing you.
Very spooky 'old-school' connection there. Could it be that Geko had some strange form of subconscious nostalgia? Now I am scratching my head about this Voth idea. No offense to anyone.
As if the Power Ranger jokes weren't bad enough before, can you imagine someone in full Red OMEGA gear shouting "TYRANNOSAURS!" as they summon their T-Rex combat pet.
... ... ...
Nevermind, make this happen now.
I don't have a problem with the Voth per say..,
But the presentation so far, is rather cartoony at this point.
(I wouldn't use 'childish' to describe it, but it is kinda 'child-like' in nature)
Perhaps when I actually see what They put in the game, it will be more appealing.
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Not Assimilated Voth?
Must have high evolution metabolism.
Interestingly, this is Star Treks chance to experiment with how aliens would react to the treatment and relationship with a species or a comparable genus to their own. Like how would an evolved fish species deal with the fact that we eat fish?
Also, big lulz for the guy complaining about untrainable dinosaurs when mind control technology can be whipped up in a snap by a Ferengi on Terok Nor.
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Post of the day/thread. So much for Season 8. Stay tuned for Season 9: Monkey Rodeo! That is if this game is lucky enough to survive until then.
I hope they don't ruin the explaination.
I have to remember that "Star Trek: Online" is a video game for kids. I should not be taking the game too seriously. Before I reinstall the game, I will watch the developer blogs.
I am in my second week without playing. I hope there is better news.
I will wait for more developer blogs, so I can make a more informed decision.
ROFL
The evidence is so striking. Seems to be the same industry gimmick throughout modern history of franchise and merchandising. The perpetuating question is, what kind of audience is this supposed to reach? The answer (to me) is obvious. There was an avenue to come up with all kinds of possibilities for the next season of STO. Why did they set their hearts on this old gimmick? I'm only questioning the true reason for this, not ranting or debating.
Who knows.
Within the Blog's third image, the mechs look like toys from Hasbro.
I wonder if they come with batteries.
With the new ground weapon ammo thing, it could play an interesting role in perhaps a new gorund Voth STF in which the bazooka is an exploit weapon and, with limited ammo, its extra handy in taking down a Voth Mech boss.
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I could go with that. Always wondered why the Federation isn't using that phaseooka from Insurrection.
The Romulans and Vulcans had major divergences in only a couple of millennia. Over 65 million years Voth on different ships could have huge evolutionary divergences. The Voth in the Dyson Sphere could be quite socially different then the Voth the Voyager met.
Really not sure on this tbh. I like the idea of the Voth, but as others have said, the T-Rex picture is taking it too far.
I now question whether we need another Lead Designer, because clearly the game is heading into fantasy, rather than sc-fi Trek.....
Rofl
I guess there was a reason why TOS only lasted 3 seasons. If it weren't for The Wrath of Khan this franchise would be long gone. How this game is surviving is beyond me. Oh right...lockboxes!
Don't forget the dinos they will support them as well
The point is each series had wacky things in them. Trek wasn't always all serious. It used humor, drama, angst, guilt, and so on just like most other TV shows.
yes yes when you fight those dinos say to them today is good day to die then look up and prepare your disrupters XD
Well I agree, but I think STO already has its share of wacky things. Star Trek has become like a sick dog, suffering through things like JJ-Trek and STO. Maybe it's time to put Old Yeller down.
Okay
Can we play as Dr. Alan Grant too?
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What are the devs on over there? Cause they need to share.
What explanation do you think is necessary? The scientists were basically outcasts. The ones in power were pretty much the Space Taliban. Exactly the types the Federation wouldn't get along with.
They might even have gotten wind of the "Warship Voyager" story that was being bandied about the quadrant and decided to do something about it to quell those rumors.
:cool:
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