Because that cheater is throwing the entire economy of the game into flux. That is ONE person, ONE (1) person, that has pumped over 200 MILLION Astral Diamonds into the market.
How do you figure that? These 200 million astral diamonds came from where exactly?
Because that cheater is throwing the entire economy of the game into flux. That is ONE person, ONE (1) person, that has pumped over 200 MILLION Astral Diamonds into the market.
all economy is screw up in mmorpg nothing is perfect even real life economy. if you want to blame someone blame the player not the developers. they are humans as well. it take time to fix error in games if you want perfect game make a perfect human or better yet go to college and learn how to program. everything has holes and glitch and error it part of programming we are here to play. but if you spot a error or glitch you send a feedback ticket
all economy is screw up in mmorpg nothing is perfect even real life economy. if you want to blame someone blame the player not the developers. they are humans as well. it take time to fix error in games if you want perfect game make a perfect human or better yet go to college and learn how to program
The original problem is the fault of the players, but it shifted to the devs when they chose to ignore it and complete miss their opportunity to solve this with bans. They've just let it get to a point where a wipe is the only thing that'll fix how broken things have become.
I have seen that but that still doesn't explain the 200 million astral diamond figure.
Where is that number coming from? Is that the "theoretical" value of the purple items if they were sold at the start of the week's valuations on the Auction House? If they were sold today, some of those items would get approximately 5,000 AD instead of the 200,000 Astral Diamonds they would have on Saturday.
So, can you explain the 200 million Astral Diamond valuation? Where is that coming from?
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colexianMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 17Arc User
He posed his original point incorrectly.
He has not "pumped 200 million AD into the economy."
He has sold so many top tier items that they are virtually worthless and he has amassed a HUGE chunk of the total wealth.(If you know anything about economics, you know why one person controlling the purchasing power is a bad thing. Even in games.)
Just my 50 cent but No one "pumped 200 Million Astral Diamonds into the Market!" that's simply not true, there is no way to Cheat yourself Astral Diamonds. Just someone who sold a lot of epics to a lot of people and gathered that much AD from other players that way.
The original problem is the fault of the players, but it shifted to the devs when they chose to ignore it and complete miss their opportunity to solve this with bans. They've just let it get to a point where a wipe is the only thing that'll fix how broken things have become.
they can't leave comment when they don't full info. if you leave post say oh it be fix tomorrow. that big fat lie. somone say they found other exploit and they cant shutdown game then they lose money. you know there running a business right?
they can't leave comment when they don't full info. if you leave post say oh it be fix tomorrow. that big fat lie. somone say they found other exploit and they cant shutdown game then they lose money. you know there running a business right?
if this "business" was building cars we'd all be dead.
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nectarprimeMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I misspoke my point, he pulled 200 million AD out of the market, which he then used to transfer to Zen and sold that to a 3rd party website. Which is devastating to the economy by not only making T2 gear absolutely worthless, but by essentially sticking his hand in PWE's pocket and pulling out around 5000USD.
Please explain how that is devastating to the economy when I could just spend $5000 on zen and then transfer it to AD. Would that ruin the economy as well?
The people who exploit did cause an imbalance, but the imbalance has nothing to do with pumping in AD (that's a separate issue, and I'm relatively sure there are groups which farm AD using other exploits. Won't mention here, but it's easy to figure out anyway, and entirely related to their F2P system.) The imbalance is firstly likely driving down the value of high end gear from oversupply, secondly likely driving up the value of Zen, also due to oversupply of AD from the first part. Alternatively, with so much Zen, the exploiter could affect the prices of other AH items, making other things overly expensive instead if bought up in mass quantities. Admittedly using some assumptions here.
they can't leave comment when they don't full info. if you leave post say oh it be fix tomorrow. that big fat lie. somone say they found other exploit and they cant shutdown game then they lose money. you know there running a business right?
What I'm saying is these issues were reported a good amount of time ago. GF one shot issue? Server's should've been down asap to disable the set bonus. They've brought them down with minimal notice (during Saturday night primetime even) for less. People doing other exploits? Start tracking it immediately, pulling their Auctions until further review, or just banning them asap. But instead they've done none of these things, and we're at where we are now.
A full wipe of everyone will never happen, so just forget about it as they would lose customers who were innocent and do not want to be bothered to repeat content already completed.
Cryptic does have the power to modify individual accounts and toons. So let them investigate using their back-end tools and metrics to root out the guilty and punish accordingly and leave those of us innocent of any exploiting alone to continue to enjoy the game.
The people who exploit did cause an imbalance, but the imbalance has nothing to do with pumping in AD (that's a separate issue, and I'm relatively sure there are groups which farm AD using other exploits. Won't mention here, but it's easy to figure out anyway, and entirely related to their F2P system.) The imbalance is firstly likely driving down the value of high end gear from oversupply, secondly likely driving up the value of Zen, also due to oversupply of AD from the first part. Alternatively, with so much Zen, the exploiter could affect the prices of other AH items, making other things overly expensive instead if bought up in mass quantities. Admittedly using some assumptions here.
if you want to fix problem report in the exploiters that how you stop it
Honestly, I don't think people understand the problem with this. What he's saying is there will be HUGE problems in the future.
If someone is able to farm 5,000$+ worth of zen with a days worth of farming, it's ridiculous. Something has to be done about this, because I want to enjoy this game for what it is. I really like this game, and I would really be sad if it falls under because people are exploiting THOUSANDS of Zen and stuff.
Ppl pls. (Plus it's kind of unfair if they just leave it, and those who amassed all these riches get to be perma-rich forever not having to work for anything. Likely they'll quit, because it'll get boring FAST.)
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Character whips dont solve nothing. your fault buying a $200 back when you should know there be problem
Maybe PW doesn't consider it to be an exploit?
Those who didn't exploit get benefits from the temporary flush to the economy (some cheap purples on the AH) and the exploiters are punished.
Problem solved ... Next.
How do you figure that? These 200 million astral diamonds came from where exactly?
If PW doesn't think that GFs one-shotting Castle Never bosses is an "exploit" then I'm afraid they don't think at all.
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all economy is screw up in mmorpg nothing is perfect even real life economy. if you want to blame someone blame the player not the developers. they are humans as well. it take time to fix error in games if you want perfect game make a perfect human or better yet go to college and learn how to program. everything has holes and glitch and error it part of programming we are here to play. but if you spot a error or glitch you send a feedback ticket
I'm sure the developers intended a single class being able to solo the endgame epic dungeons.
Abusing a bug is exploiting.
you in no way answered the question
Where is that number coming from? Is that the "theoretical" value of the purple items if they were sold at the start of the week's valuations on the Auction House? If they were sold today, some of those items would get approximately 5,000 AD instead of the 200,000 Astral Diamonds they would have on Saturday.
So, can you explain the 200 million Astral Diamond valuation? Where is that coming from?
He has not "pumped 200 million AD into the economy."
He has sold so many top tier items that they are virtually worthless and he has amassed a HUGE chunk of the total wealth.(If you know anything about economics, you know why one person controlling the purchasing power is a bad thing. Even in games.)
Oh i wasn't aware the screenshot showed us all 200 million astral diamonds being pumped into the economy, GENIUS.
Stop spreading false information... thank you!
they can't leave comment when they don't full info. if you leave post say oh it be fix tomorrow. that big fat lie. somone say they found other exploit and they cant shutdown game then they lose money. you know there running a business right?
Please explain how that is devastating to the economy when I could just spend $5000 on zen and then transfer it to AD. Would that ruin the economy as well?
This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
Cryptic does have the power to modify individual accounts and toons. So let them investigate using their back-end tools and metrics to root out the guilty and punish accordingly and leave those of us innocent of any exploiting alone to continue to enjoy the game.
if you want to fix problem report in the exploiters that how you stop it
If someone is able to farm 5,000$+ worth of zen with a days worth of farming, it's ridiculous. Something has to be done about this, because I want to enjoy this game for what it is. I really like this game, and I would really be sad if it falls under because people are exploiting THOUSANDS of Zen and stuff.
Ppl pls. (Plus it's kind of unfair if they just leave it, and those who amassed all these riches get to be perma-rich forever not having to work for anything. Likely they'll quit, because it'll get boring FAST.)
LIFE is an Adventure.
i mean Report in the player that do it take screen shot video report them in they get ban for it.
yea we hear player get mad for ban say they didn't exploit forums next