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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 54,836 Community Moderator
    edited October 2020
    hopefully they actually reveal the class name in the show so it gets canonized, whatever it ends up being

    they'll probably go with luna if they do, though - i see no reason why they wouldn't​​

    Considering everyone knows it as the Luna, its been the Luna ever since it appeared in the novels, and pretty much every reference to that design says Luna...

    Its a Luna class.
    Raises a few questions about uniforms though. Why does the Cerritos and some other ships have a different uniform than the Titan? Is it a transition period for uniforms like we saw in TNG/DS9? Or is it that ships that don't go as far out like Titan just have a different uniform?
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 36,862 Arc User
    the same reason for uniform discrepancy in every other case - a ship's far enough out that starfleet went through another one of their bi-yearly uniform changes and not everyone got the memo yet

    seriously, starfleet needs to just pick a damn design and stick with it for a while - no nation on earth changes uniforms nearly as often as they do, whether the organization is military or civilian​​
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,955 Arc User
    Shax! :(

    May the Prophets be with you.


    This episode made me thing two things:

    The Pakled? That could be exactly how the Borg started once.

    If we get the California Class in game, there should definitely be a Tier 1 or Tier 2 version, maybe completely free or as some mission reward. When the Luna appeared on screen, it was clearly tactically vastly superior.

    Bonus Thought: That Pakled Dreadnought is probably going to end up being a lockbox/promotion ship. I think the original TNG era Pakled ship should be some Freighter-type mission/TFO reward, though.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 54,836 Community Moderator
    the same reason for uniform discrepancy in every other case - a ship's far enough out that starfleet went through another one of their bi-yearly uniform changes and not everyone got the memo yet

    seriously, starfleet needs to just pick a damn design and stick with it for a while - no nation on earth changes uniforms nearly as often as they do, whether the organization is military or civilian​​

    To be fair, the last on screen appearance of the First Contact style was in 2379 with Nemesis. Since Lower Decks takes place a year later... it would make sense for them to have multiple uniforms in service. I mean in DS9 they had two different uniforms, mostly to tell who was station personnel and who wasn't. DS9 crew had the DS9/Voyager style while visiting crew had TNG style. Hell... Jadzia Dax wore the TNG style when she first stepped aboard DS9.

    As for design... they kinda have stuck with a design style since TNG. Every variant of the Starfleet uniform since TNG has had those rather distinctive shoulders.
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  • joshmauljoshmaul Member Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    Maybe the fact they canonized the Luna class will mean we'll get a version that actually looks that good (and hey, maybe at T6) in-game? The in-game model stinks.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 54,836 Community Moderator
    To be fair, the current in game model is from the game's launch, so its 10 years old.
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,335 Arc User
    Shax! :(

    May the Prophets be with you.


    This episode made me thing two things:

    The Pakled? That could be exactly how the Borg started once.

    If we get the California Class in game, there should definitely be a Tier 1 or Tier 2 version, maybe completely free or as some mission reward. When the Luna appeared on screen, it was clearly tactically vastly superior.

    Bonus Thought: That Pakled Dreadnought is probably going to end up being a lockbox/promotion ship. I think the original TNG era Pakled ship should be some Freighter-type mission/TFO reward, though.

    TIER 6!!!!!!!!! :p
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 3,898 Arc User
    If they do make a T6 Luna I hope they keep the kitbashing aspect intact. One of my first captains had the Sol class variant with a few other swaps and I would definitely get the T6 if it is made a c-store ship if it had the parts to recreate that ship.
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,335 Arc User
    If they do make a T6 Luna I hope they keep the kitbashing aspect intact. One of my first captains had the Sol class variant with a few other swaps and I would definitely get the T6 if it is made a c-store ship if it had the parts to recreate that ship.

    I want a T6 California.

    If we can have T6 NX's, T'Varos, Daeadalus, and so on...we can have this. :)
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    Playable Pakled WTF-ship when?
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,335 Arc User
    Playable Pakled WTF-ship when?
    I really want to know the size of the California class, because the Pakled super ship looked MASSIVE.

    it's pretty small. I think Trek Yards covered it.
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  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,640 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    I didn't know that Spock helmet thing was an actual toy they just put the word Spock on to sell to kids. lol

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    Playable Pakled WTF-ship when?
    I really want to know the size of the California class, because the Pakled super ship looked MASSIVE.

    it's actually rather easy to figure out the size of those Pakled ships. When the Cerritos scans one they create this diagram of where the hull pieces came from. In that diagram you can see that the beak-like part on the front is the design of Pakled ship that Picard and Geordi encountered. The literally took that design and just bolted on more parts.
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  • joshmauljoshmaul Member Posts: 464 Arc User

    Huh! Talk about a case of "ask and ye shall receive". Wonder when...
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,534 Arc User
    joshmaul wrote: »

    Huh! Talk about a case of "ask and ye shall receive". Wonder when...

    And when we get this ship, every time it goes to warp it has Riker say "Give me warp, in the factor of, a five-six-seven-eight" and jazz music starts.
  • mada1337#5271 mada1337 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited January 2021
    > @thegrandnagus1 said:
    > The thread about the trailer seems to have gone wildly off topic, so with the first episode airing in a matter of hours I wanted to have a place for people to actually discuss this show and first episode. So...here it is! :)

    I really like the show as well. Was pleasantly surprised.
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,335 Arc User
    > @thegrandnagus1 said:
    > The thread about the trailer seems to have gone wildly off topic, so with the first episode airing in a matter of hours I wanted to have a place for people to actually discuss this show and first episode. So...here it is! :)

    I really like the show as well. Was pleasantly surprised.

    First Trek, apart from Beyond, since 2005 that I actually liked. :)
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  • nix38nix38 Member Posts: 1 New User
    I'm not sure if the new episode is out - the last I saw was "We'll Always have Tom Paris" - and thus far, it's still going strong.
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  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,543 Arc User
    Just caught up with everything released through “The Spy Humongous”.

    I feel badly for our Devs. ;) Following “An Embarrassment of Dooplers”, they gotta know we expect ground vehicles now. Not just for ground. But for orbiting Starbases. :open_mouth:
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,173 Arc User
    I was expecting Tendi to snap any moment in this season, but I didn't expect her to snap that hard and dangerously. XD

    Also, the show keeps doing such a great job at both being a silly parody that deconstructs Star Trek tropes without taking itself seriously WHILE simultaneously keeping itself serious enough to bring or revisit cool stuff in a way that doesn't make you say "Nah, it's definitely not canon, it's too silly".

    I mean, in 5 minutes, it did manage to bring much more lore to the Orions than the whole franchise had the opportunity to for decades but never did.

    And the Pakleds' development is quite something.
    I laughed so hard when one grabbed a buzzsaw to open a door... only to use it as a battering ram... and still succeeding in opening the door anyway through sheer brute force.

    And jeez, they brought back the Kzinti and made a meta joke about their TAS posture in the process because why not, for pete's sake,
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 36,862 Arc User
    And they're even in Starfleet now...WHY DO THEY HAVE FIN-EARS?!​​
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,335 Arc User
    I was expecting Tendi to snap any moment in this season, but I didn't expect her to snap that hard and dangerously. XD

    Also, the show keeps doing such a great job at both being a silly parody that deconstructs Star Trek tropes without taking itself seriously WHILE simultaneously keeping itself serious enough to bring or revisit cool stuff in a way that doesn't make you say "Nah, it's definitely not canon, it's too silly".

    I mean, in 5 minutes, it did manage to bring much more lore to the Orions than the whole franchise had the opportunity to for decades but never did.

    And the Pakleds' development is quite something.
    I laughed so hard when one grabbed a buzzsaw to open a door... only to use it as a battering ram... and still succeeding in opening the door anyway through sheer brute force.

    And jeez, they brought back the Kzinti and made a meta joke about their TAS posture in the process because why not, for pete's sake,

    McMann's a FAN. Hence the goodness of the show.

    LOVED the rib at Kurtzman, the other week, showing him in a pike style chair.
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,371 Arc User
    I am SO expecting 'William' Boimler to have been promoted by the next time we see him. Fully expect them to play on the irony of that situation even further.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,173 Arc User
    Also, I can't wait to see more of Captain Janeway's misadventures on the Enterprise.
    Can't believe Pakleds outsmarted her like that.
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,173 Arc User
    New episode, and well, even the Borg know about the importance of staying hydrated, folks. And nice to hear Alice Krige as the Borg Queen again.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,955 Arc User
    New episode, and well, even the Borg know about the importance of staying hydrated, folks. And nice to hear Alice Krige as the Borg Queen again.
    I wonder if something is up with Boimler since his duplication. Or at least with this Boimler. There was also that incident where for some reason the computer wouldn't accept his codes (clerical error? really?), and I think one other instance but I don't remember what it was.
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 36,862 Arc User
    It's Mirror Boimler - calling it now.​​
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    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
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