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  • perfectshipsperfectships Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    She wouldn't be a VPvP ship, being Fleet (and Upgraded) and packed to the gunnels with expensive gear and Doffs.

    TBH, I'm pretty sentimental about ships; and it upset me a bit about how my formerly top of the line, far and away best ship, turned into insta-garbage when they flicked the DR switch. However, it'll be a very long term mission of mine to get her back up to being top of the line again.

    It'll take a while since when I returned to STO I vowed to avoid anything that felt like the 'Tedious, unfun, clock-watching second job that you have to pay for the privilege of working' thing that STO has become.

    But when I've eventually got her back up to where I want her to be, sure - I'll have a 1 vs 1 with you... if you're still playing STO by then.:) You're in the EU timezone, right? I'm UK, so at least that shouldn't be a problem.

    Cheers.
  • nippeli222nippeli222 Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Could the Kazon Heavy Raider be allowed because it has the same stats as free T5 ships the only difference is that it can be upgraded.
  • etherealplanesetherealplanes Member Posts: 414
    edited November 2014
    nippeli222 wrote: »
    Could the Kazon Heavy Raider be allowed because it has the same stats as free T5 ships the only difference is that it can be upgraded.

    I would bet the answer will be no. He is actually trying to use rear admiral level T5 equal ship and not vice admiral level T5 ships. Which is why we see no Defiant and such.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,283 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I would bet the answer will be no. He is actually trying to use rear admiral level T5 equal ship and not vice admiral level T5 ships. Which is why we see no Defiant and such.
    well, then this ship can't be left out, because it's a rear admiral ship
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  • etherealplanesetherealplanes Member Posts: 414
    edited November 2014
    well, then this ship can't be left out, because it's a rear admiral ship

    IDK 5 boff stations for a raider? Doesn't sound like vpvp material.
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited November 2014
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  • scurry5scurry5 Member Posts: 1,554 Arc User
    edited November 2014
  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Is it really so hard to type ?

    Don't bother posting youtube links no one is going to sit though your 2 min talky talky.

    Type it or don't bother.
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  • nippeli222nippeli222 Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I hope you understand that that the Kazon ship is almost as same as the Mirror Escort retrofit.
  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    voporak wrote: »

    Damn. Not that it helps, but it is PvP in general that is dying, not just VPvP. DR f**ked us all up.
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Is it really so hard to type ?

    Don't bother posting youtube links no one is going to sit though your 2 min talky talky.

    Type it or don't bother.

    Sometimes I simply cannot put meaning into unspoken type as I can actualy saying it.

    And everyone else seems perfectly willing to listen.
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  • nippeli222nippeli222 Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I want to tell you guys that this channel was my last hope
    DR screwed us all Im not the only one quiting. I just want to say that Im out I lost totally my faith. I thought the devs would see sense but no. They dont listen to us at all and thats why this game shutdowns its servers soon and Geko wont ever get close to Cryptics office. The devs on other "popular" Cryptic and PWE titled will laugh their a*s of. Star Citizen, Elite: Dangerous and EVE Online devs will have a party because Cryptic failed.

    THE END
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Should I ask Smirk to retract the guest blog, or let it go through? My guess is it would take at least a couple more months to be published (hey fun fact, did you know Star Trek Battles was supposed to have a guest blog in August?), and by then it would be like advertising for a company that's been put out of business.
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  • etherealplanesetherealplanes Member Posts: 414
    edited November 2014
    All I know is I scrapped my cheap vpvp gear and bought a little into some q able space pvp gear. This gives me an option while ground pvp is dead. As far as vpvp goes I have yet to be in a real teamed match yet. 1 on 1 are nice but not exactly what I built a vpvp toon for.
  • nulonunulonu Member Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Let the blog go through. It won't hurt anything and may help.
  • admiraltrappittadmiraltrappitt Member Posts: 444 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    voporak wrote: »
    (hey fun fact, did you know Star Trek Battles was supposed to have a guest blog in August?)

    Er... we were? Never knew that. How did you find out?

    Anyway, needless to say, I am sad to see this has failed, (even if I don't see why), as this and STB had similar goals.
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  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Er... we were? Never knew that. How did you find out?

    Anyway, needless to say, I am sad to see this has failed, (even if I don't see why), as this and STB had similar goals.

    STB is about playing STO in a canon feel - VPvP was about returning to a time when PvP wasn't as broken.

    Only one of those can really be done post-DR.
  • robyvisionrobyvision Member Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I just lvled my toon up to 50 can I get a inv?
  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    robyvision wrote: »
    I just lvled my toon up to 50 can I get a inv?

    @handle? Or is it forum name?
  • robyvisionrobyvision Member Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    yessssssss
  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Invite sent to @robyvision.
  • wearetheborg9897wearetheborg9897 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    So, just to confirm, I can't use any actual canon builds on here that I on occasion use for Star Trek Battles, such as:

    Galaxy Class (C-Store retrofit):

    Fore Weapons:
    1x Phaser Beam Array
    1x Photon Torpedo Launcher

    Aft Weapons:
    1x Phaser Beam Array
    1x Photon Torpedo Launcher

    Special consoles:

    Antimatter Spread
    Saucer Seperation


    Defiant Class (C-Store tactical Escort Retrofit)

    Fore Weapons:
    1x Quad Cannons
    1x Quantum torpedo Launcher

    Aft Weapons:
    1x Phaser Beam Array
    1x Photon Torpedo Launcher

    Special Consoles:

    Cloaking Device

    D'deridex Warbird Refit

    Fore Weapons:
    1x Romulan Plasma Beam Array
    1x Romulan Plasma Single Cannon
    1x Plasma Torpedo Launcher

    Aft Weapons:
    1x Romulan Plasma Beam Array

    No special Comsoles


    I always thought that limiting the number of weapon slots used was a better way to make a more canon looking and balanced ship, any chance I can submit these builds for review? nothing else would be C-Store/unique and I don't mind only using half the ship's weapon slots since it looks more like the TV show :cool:
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  • shawn1465sshawn1465s Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    hi I just read your article on vpvp could I get and invite would like to participate and have fun again in pvp my at is @shawn1465
  • fiberteksyfirfiberteksyfir Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I am totally interested please invite @fibertek also while not mirror in its own right what about the kazon boat out of curiosity

    Edit:nvm on the kazon I didn't get to that page yet in the forum looks like it got brought up already,still very interested in joining anyways :)
  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I'll send invites once I've logged in.



    VPvP and STB aren't that similar - both involve reduced capability compared to normal, but that is pretty much where it ends as far as similarities go.

    In VPvP, it is about removing all the stuff that unbalances or drives up the cost of normal PvP, and returning to when it mostly worked well, and STB is about fighting as they did in the shows.


    Now, you can bring a canon loadout into VPvP, but if you did, it would be like bringing a canon build to normal PvP - it isn't going to work well.
  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I would like an invite to the channel. I don't have a ship yet, but I'll be working on it next weekend. :D
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