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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Im thinking a;

    E-Tac TT1
    LTC-Tac TS1 CRF1 APO1
    Com-Eng EPTS1 AtB1 Dem2 Dem3
    Lt - Eng EPTE1 AtB1
    Lt - Sci ST1 HE2

    Ens-Tac TT1
    LTC-Tac TT1 CRF1 TS3
    Com- Eng EPTS1 RSP1 AtB2 Dem3
    LT- Sci TB1 HE2
    LT-Uslot EPTE1 AtB1

    (4)DHCs (1) Torp
    (2) Turrets
    (1) Borg KcB
    Omega Deflector
    Omega engine
    fleet warp core (gives back to Aux/ 3.3% dambuff)
    Fleet adaptive shields

    3Tech doffs
    1 Clear hazards doff
    1 bonus power from EPTx use doff
    DL Nuet, DL Nuet, DL Nuet, Borg console
    Tachy console, Leech
    (4) energy consoles

    Of course this off the top of my head and is subject to change.
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  • zelzxezelzxe Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    It's the Avenger for KDF side nothing more.
  • serevnserevn Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    zelzxe wrote: »
    It's the Avenger for KDF side nothing more.

    Thank you for this obvious and known by everyone fact... your point being...?
  • madmoparmadmopar Member Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I am hoping we get to find out what the console for the c-store version will be today.
  • beclourbeclour Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Think we forced up the Dev blog timeline by letting everyone know about the leak? ;)
  • serevnserevn Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    beclour wrote: »
    Think we forced up the Dev blog timeline by letting everyone know about the leak? ;)

    Probably not, it must have been close to being released anyways, otherwise they wouldn't have put it in the holodeck server with the winter event update.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    beclour wrote: »
    Think we forced up the Dev blog timeline by letting everyone know about the leak? ;)

    I doubt it. I interpret it as a marketing ploy to gauge the playerbase's interest. Remember, the last Klingon ship they built didn't sell so well.*

    I didn't get a chance to see the stats for the Mogh, but if it stays similar to the Avenger I'll get it. I love my Avenger to death.

    * For clarity's sake, that's not a slight against the Bortasqu'. It's not a bad ship, it was just too different from the rest of the lineup.
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    LOL
    WTF is that ?
    :eek:
    The devs still play with lego's ?
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  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    As I said before, if you have a klingon toon and you regularly or don't even touch them, you must buy this ship! This must be the call to cryptic to make more ships!!!! Please buy this even if you don't need/want it.
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    z3ndor99 wrote: »
    As I said before, if you have a klingon toon and you regularly or don't even touch them, you must buy this ship! This must be the call to cryptic to make more ships!!!! Please buy this even if you don't need/want it.

    BOTH my mains are Klingon, but history has taught us that throwing money at Cryptic only makes them give everyone else more stuff.
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  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Im sorry guys didn't realise you were so sensitive.... sorry.
  • generator88generator88 Member Posts: 698 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    LOL
    WTF is that ?
    :eek:
    The devs still play with lego's ?

    Pity the person who doesn't.
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  • kintishokintisho Member Posts: 1,040 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    At last my KDF will be able to leave her Bortasqu' (base model)!!!! I Will need to hop over to a fleet with T5 shipyard thats gonna cost me a ton I am sure.... For sad 2500 Zen, 500 more.. then who knows how many million EC I will get scalped...
  • twamtwam Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    T4, wasn't it?

    And that should be possible without getting fleeced...
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Assuming the leaked shipyard listing was accurate, it will require a T4 shipyard. But as Cryptic would say, all info is subject to change.

    Aside from having a much larger crew and an innate standard cloak, it was identical stat-for-stat to the Fleet Avenger. So it would make sense for them to require the same tier shipyard.

    As for being a must-buy... all my KDF characters have ships I'm happy with, including a Fleet Tor'kaht which I don't consider this to be an improvement upon. So I' not buying this unless it has the one thing that would push it into must-buy territory for me- a wide-angle torpedo launcher I can strip off it and put on my Tor'kaht.

    Hopefully we'll see a dev blog soon.
  • atlantraatlantra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Honestly I have no need for another battle cruiser. I already did my part in supporting KDF by wasting $50 on the worse 3 pack in the game. I'll stay in my Bortasqu until cryptic decides to buff it if ever. Throwing a $50 (horrible) ship to the side just to spend $30 on this new ship is not something I plan on doing anytime soon. Why the bortasqu can't have 5 weapons in the front? I thought it was KDF's Super Flagship.

    I love KDF, but cloning/copy and paste will not get my money. The console on this new ship better rock. That's all I have to say about that.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    ^The Bort isn't a battlecruiser no matter what it says on the box. It's a Starfleet engi cruiser with an integrated cloak and KDF skin. You try to fly it like a normal battlecruiser, you will have problems. Just because something says DC-capable doesn't mean it can use them competently (*cough* Gal-X *cough hack cough*).

    Run it with beams and add fleet neutronium +turn. The Command Cruiser should work splendidly as a mighty glacier using a weapons-boosting build (aux2batt especially) with weapons efficiency running. It may not get the threat gen command, but face it: threat gen is pretty much superfluous in this game anyway.

    By contrast the Mogh is a traditional Klingon BC.
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  • zigadeiczigadeic Member Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I dont play KDF to often but I am definitely going to get this
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    dont think of it as an avenger clone, there was always going to be a kdf version too. the ship designers can only model so quickly! one had to come out before the other
  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,671 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Don't have a toon to put the Mogh on? Roll a new one with the LoR revamped tutorial, soon with Micheal Dorn voice-over and a free C-Store starter BoP! I went through the tutorial on Tribble when LoR went public beta and quite liked it, a free C-Store BoP and Micheal Dorn VO can only enhance it.

    Doesn't one of the new low-level BoPs come with a shield draining console? If the Mogh comes with a VATA-like console with a shield drain mode, it might be interesting combining the two for extra shield-stripping.
  • tancrediivtancrediiv Member Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Im thinking ...AtB1 Dem2 Dem3
    Lt - Eng EPTE1 AtB1...

    Of course this off the top of my head and is subject to change.

    My understanding is the global on DEM is the same as the CD so two copies is not beneficial.

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  • panserbjorne39panserbjorne39 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    dont think of it as an avenger clone, there was always going to be a kdf version too. the ship designers can only model so quickly! one had to come out before the other

    So you're saying the Mogh is not a re-skinned Avenger but that the Avenger is actually a re-skinned Mogh?!!? Yes! In your face Fed dogs!
  • zipagatzipagat Member Posts: 1,204 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The Avenger is more like a improved Tor'khat.
  • madmoparmadmopar Member Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Man I want this ship bad. I had to buy a bastion today for something to entertain me till I can get ahold of this ship.
  • alsayyidalsayyid Member Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    atlantra wrote: »
    Honestly I have no need for another battle cruiser. I already did my part in supporting KDF by wasting $50 on the worse 3 pack in the game. I'll stay in my Bortasqu until cryptic decides to buff it if ever. Throwing a $50 (horrible) ship to the side just to spend $30 on this new ship is not something I plan on doing anytime soon. Why the bortasqu can't have 5 weapons in the front? I thought it was KDF's Super Flagship.

    I love KDF, but cloning/copy and paste will not get my money. The console on this new ship better rock. That's all I have to say about that.

    Agreed... well in part.

    I actually love my Bortasqu'. I don't regret the buy. I made it work for me and I enjoy being the STO equivalent of a Age of Empires trebuchet.

    That being said the huge penalty it has on turn rate is quite out of date. She needs a big makeover. A nice +2 to turn at least. You could slice off some hull, I don't care.

    It would be nice to have her as a dread if anything. 5/3 with those 5 tac consoles. If you can do it on a Scimitar, why not a Klink ship. Wouldn't mind a Commander Tac station... but lets not get ahead of ourselves.

    I don't see how a revisit to the flagships hurt STO or the devs. Sure it may not make me buy another ship since I have it already, but it will make new players buy it. And I would be inclined to put some money into her via zen/dil/consoles and the like. And all without having to hire an art team for it.

    Let's throw the Galaxy dread or the Ody a bone too. Bringing older ships in line isn't bad or counterproductive. There are so many ships that could be flown if they were viable in at least one way. It creates variety for a player base that delights in that sort of thing.

    Whatever...

    I'll think about buying the Mogh. My fleet isn't at T4 and I like the models of alot of the other klink ships. Not really hurting on damage dealing with these STFs anyway.
  • f8explorer#7814 f8explorer Member Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Assuming the leaked shipyard listing was accurate, it will require a T4 shipyard. But as Cryptic would say, all info is subject to change.

    Aside from having a much larger crew and an innate standard cloak, it was identical stat-for-stat to the Fleet Avenger. So it would make sense for them to require the same tier shipyard.

    As for being a must-buy... all my KDF characters have ships I'm happy with, including a Fleet Tor'kaht which I don't consider this to be an improvement upon. So I' not buying this unless it has the one thing that would push it into must-buy territory for me- a wide-angle torpedo launcher I can strip off it and put on my Tor'kaht.

    Hopefully we'll see a dev blog soon.

    Because of the fifth fore weapons spot, this one will have more DPS.

    Regarding Dev blogs ... Tuesday will have the background of the art development for the design, etc. Wednesday will have the stats.

    Thursday is release day.
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  • lomax6996lomax6996 Member Posts: 512 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    How about a spiffy new KDF bridge to go with the new ship? :P
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  • f8explorer#7814 f8explorer Member Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    lomax6996 wrote: »
    How about a spiffy new KDF bridge to go with the new ship? :P

    I have to admit I'd love a new state of the art KDF bridge. :)
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  • sunseahlsunseahl Member Posts: 827 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    genhauk wrote: »
    I have to admit I'd love a new state of the art KDF bridge. :)

    Bortasqu flavored Origin bridge anyone??
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