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  • mll623mll623 Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    When people want to do RML in CSE instead of 3 1 1, when you have a player on your team with over 20K DPS who can take out a cube set faster then the other 3 put together.
  • fazemladaiyafazemladaiya Member Posts: 165 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    By far the worst STF experience I've ever had happened last night. Reason? Self inflicted. Purchased a Bort earlier this week for my lead Klink toon. Tactical version. Waited to use it until I had enough Dil, EC, and Marks to outfit it properly. So I ran ISE with it. KDF queues take awhile to pop sometimes, but ISE is usually pretty quick. Dinking about waiting for the 'Engage' button and then it catches me just as I am taking a sip of coffee.

    mmm...coffee.

    Click Engage and away we go. To my horror, I had forgotten to check my tray to make sure all the things were just where I like them and the keybinds were set up as they should be. I also discovered I had failed to load any consumables. They were all back in the shipyard or the bank. I am gimped badly and it is all my fault. I somehow managed to stagger about and kill one generator and help with killing the transformer on the right. The surviving spheres promptly blew me out of the stars. Twice. So now I am gimped and damaged. With little help from me, the team completed the Optional with about 4 minutes remaining and then blew the Tac Cube about three minutes left.

    I then had to listen to a series about complaints about how I play STO and random speculation about my ancestry, intelligence and computer choice. One helpful individual suggested a final destination which is most definitely not the one I want. Too warm there. And I could say nothing at all in reply. Because they were right.

    Please take that extra minute or two after you purchase a new ship to ensure that all the particulars are exactly as you want them to be. It was a rookie mistake and very very embarrassing.

    I want to say that i give VERY VERY high respect and kudos to this post. Admitting an experience - even if it is a negative one - publicly - so that others may learn from a mistake is probably THE best use of a forum. 98% of the time the reason I end up on a forum is looking for answers when I am struggling, and when i was a newbie fresh to STO, this post would have helped me out a lot.

    Sorry to hear the other teammates were so harsh on you, even if it was your fault, but it takes a lot of balls to post this, and so I give my thanks to you as a fellow player.
  • satanailofhwbgsatanailofhwbg Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    By far the worst STF experience I've ever had happened last night.
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    These things happen. I personally have no problem carrying someone who forgot something that F*s his STF - it's kind of normal - as simple as it is, there are some things that needs to be done when changing ships - equipping it (cause there are always some little things that you can have 1 of), setting up BOFFs, power levels.....and sometimes, you have forgotten to press the "ready ship" button. I had a teammate in ISE in that situation last night. He apologized at the start and thanked us for carrying him at the end. Honestly I'd rather carry such people than the ignorant "experts"....and the story begins......and no, it's not as horrifying as the encounter I had with 4 obelisks in CSE.
    ISE. 4 tactical captains and me - science captain in my DPS carrier. I carried them. I'm not sure if they had more than 3-4k each, because the transformers went down as fast as I take them down alone in KASE. And they shot at the spheres first....so maybe that's why.
    Next: KASE. Same thing happens - 4 tactical captains in various ships....I think the optional was gone, but that's not really important. One thing I've learned so far I think is...that it's very difficult for people to ask for help or advice on how to improve their game....because it's hard for me to believe that in any fleet channel when someone asks a question, there aren't at least 2-3 people ready to answer at any given time.
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,332 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I want to say that i give VERY VERY high respect and kudos to this post...
    These things happen...
    Thank you both for the flowers. :D I posted what I did so maybe someone else can read it and avoid such a boneheaded mistake. I play STO for enjoyment and it is much more enjoyable when I am playing well and doing my part to ensure the successful completion of whatever I am doing at the time. I did not enjoy myself in this one.

    On to new business. KVE. Not one but two Gal-X SkittleBoats. A Kumari Escort and I think it was a Wells class but I am not sure. I was flying the Kamarag I got from the Temporal Ambassador episode initial run. The one which is available now isn't nearly as good. The one I was flying is about halfway between that one and the Fleet version.

    In Khitomer I usually backstop the Vortex and assist with wayward Cubes because it is easier to have one person do the one thing than to try and do two things at once. The Cubes can be a handful if someone is just about to drop the transformers and wandering over to support can often draw a Cube off of someone long enough for them to heal and get back in the fight. Most people will shoot a Probe or two en passant. The leakers and their Sphere Escorts really do require someone assigned to them. Normally post something like, "I guard Vortex" in the Chat Window as well.

    I was flabbergasted when the SkittleBoats ganked (and I do mean ganked) the Tac Cube in about a minute and a half. "Great!" I thought. "Somebody built one of those the right way. Good deal."

    This is where it all began to go wrong. One Gal-X went right and one went left. Whatever they did to the Cube they apparently forgot how en route to the gateways. The Wells would shoot a generator and then shoot the gate and then shoot something else. The Kumari may have been trying out a new build because it stayed on the right long enough for the Cubes to kill it and then spent it's time chasing them round.

    The Gal-X on the left finally did enough damage to draw the Cube out and I moved to assist. "NO! I got this!" he typed. Okay, but I'm just trying to get close enough to throw a heal or two on him. The Kumari moved in on the same Cube and they then proceeded to argue about who was going to kill the Cube. Long enough for the Cube to kill them both. yay. So I finish the Cube, kill off the probe wave and then go back on station to watch the probes from the gate on the right. The Kumari left the game after this. The left Gal-X left shortly thereafter. And the three of us remaining spent about a minute sorting through what just happened. The Wells player posted a tirade about noobs and then he left. So naturally, the right Gal-X now leaves as well. All by myself waiting waiting waiting for somebody, anybody to show up. Not gonna quit if I can help it. Half the generators are down and the probe waves are being managed. Not easily but being managed.

    No one showed up and after what seemed a very long time, I left too. Disappointing but it felt bad to quit. Even if doing so was justified in this case.
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 7,715 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Not the worst STFE ever, but at least worthy of a facepalm.

    Vortex Elite today, we killed cube and i called right probe guard.
    I proceed to do my job and take out cube in process. In a quiet moment i do a headcount and see 4 right, 1 left.

    The one on the left was on far left and ignoring the probes all together.

    So i called side switch and hurried to the left. Only 2 slipped though before i arrived.

    I wonder why it is such a challenge for people to do guard duty on the probes.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    questerius wrote: »
    Not the worst STFE ever, but at least worthy of a facepalm.

    Vortex Elite today, we killed cube and i called right probe guard.
    I proceed to do my job and take out cube in process. In a quiet moment i do a headcount and see 4 right, 1 left.

    The one on the left was on far left and ignoring the probes all together.

    So i called side switch and hurried to the left. Only 2 slipped though before i arrived.

    I wonder why it is such a challenge for people to do guard duty on the probes.
    yeah, I've never understood that. when you see probes, shoot them, then go back to blasting the giant hunk of Borg metal.....
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  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    questerius wrote: »
    Not the worst STFE ever, but at least worthy of a facepalm.

    Vortex Elite today, we killed cube and i called right probe guard.
    I proceed to do my job and take out cube in process. In a quiet moment i do a headcount and see 4 right, 1 left.

    The one on the left was on far left and ignoring the probes all together.

    So i called side switch and hurried to the left. Only 2 slipped though before i arrived.

    I wonder why it is such a challenge for people to do guard duty on the probes.

    When I tried to probe guard in an Oddy I had boat loads of trouble. I was not in a fleet and had no fleet gear and was struggling to get my damage up. The ship is meant to survive, not vapourize.
    My experiences struggling with probes is why I am an Atrox capain now.

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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 7,715 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    feiqa wrote: »
    When I tried to probe guard in an Oddy I had boat loads of trouble. I was not in a fleet and had no fleet gear and was struggling to get my damage up. The ship is meant to survive, not vapourize.
    My experiences struggling with probes is why I am an Atrox capain now.

    Even without fleet or reputation gear you can easily get a build for stf.
    Easiest thing to come to mind is JH space set + Dominion Polaron Beam Array.

    Or simply replay http://sto.gamepedia.com/Mission:_Past_Imperfect a few times.

    I'll be blunt: it annoys me when people use lack of reputation or fleet gear as a reason why they cannot perform in stf.

    This week i took my nebula give-away for a spin in nothing but mission gear and cheap SC/turrets from the exchange. More than sufficient for STF or Voth encounters.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    questerius wrote: »
    Even without fleet or reputation gear you can easily get a build for stf.
    Easiest thing to come to mind is JH space set + Dominion Polaron Beam Array.

    Or simply replay http://sto.gamepedia.com/Mission:_Past_Imperfect a few times.

    I'll be blunt: it annoys me when people use lack of reputation or fleet gear as a reason why they cannot perform in stf.

    This week i took my nebula give-away for a spin in nothing but mission gear and cheap SC/turrets from the exchange. More than sufficient for STF or Voth encounters.

    I played the old STFs till I had the three pieces of the borg set. Two gravity wells, and a torpedo I could spread or over load. I could hold a line of probes with borg set weapons and concentration. One I got those elite fleet guns I can park and take out probes and intrigued spheres, and break up nanite generators. If people warn me that they are not blocking the other vortex I can stop both sides if I have to. Point is the Oddy was not a great ship for that job. Crowd control like that needs control skills you either can't slot or have trouble slotting. or a lot of firepower for very fast kills. Oddy has been a good ship for my engineer. But I would not volunteer for gate duty with her.

    Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
    Network engineers are not ship designers.
    Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Oh and to be on OP. My worst experience was back in the last Crystal Catastrophe.

    Rom/sci in my nice new orb weaver. I have never done this mission and no one answered me about what to do. I tried getting in to blast the entity, to taking out tholians, to just shooting down the flying shards in hopes of keeping anyone else alive out there. Sadly none of it worked and slowly the entire force quit. I left that mission and will not replay it again.

    Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
    Network engineers are not ship designers.
    Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
  • randomtesfanrandomtesfan Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    yeah, I've never understood that. when you see probes, shoot them, then go back to blasting the giant hunk of Borg metal.....

    If I had to guess, I would go with everyone thinking someone else will handle it.
  • satanailofhwbgsatanailofhwbg Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    If I see 3 people going at a singe cube and no one is on my side, I ignore the probes and go for the far cube. Why? (usually I take my time to see who goes where and then I take my position accordingly)
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    1: I take the probes alone on my side. I destroy the cube and transformer for 1:30-2 min, and then wait for 10 minutes so that the rest of the team is done with the other side.
    2: I destroy the whole side while guarding the probes - too much effort, I'm not always in the mood for it.
    3: I ignore the probes, go to the far side, be done with it, come left, take the probes and do everything else - 2 probes missed, a lot of time saved. (sometimes some players notice the probes before they are through the time portal so the opt is saved)
    So...if you can't handle a cube alone in a timely manner - stick to guarding a gate.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,349 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Sometimes high DPS isn't a great thing - it's not teaching newer players how to actually play the STF's.

    I mean, an instance of ISE yesterday; after the initial cube exploded a new player flew straight over to the transformers and started blasting them. Thankfully, the cube above was taken down in short order.

    But that's my point - with the cube having been taken down so quickly, there is not really any way that the new player might be aware that attacking the transformers in the first instance isn't a good plan. (And as a side-note, I did message said player but didn't receive a reply so unsure whether it was read or lost to scrolling/chat not open etc).
  • tareruntaliontareruntalion Member Posts: 87 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    so i started going through the queues that i do daily to earn marks and dilithium and i enter the cure found ? i think it's the name( the one with the kang ) the whole team sucked really hard i was staying guard to kill the ships but they couldn't kill one cube, i go and kill it while the four of them where guarding the kang and i turn and see them fighting a ton of ships and they couldn't kill them and the the players were blowing up all the time except me.

    the borg kill the kang i was alone with the attract fire command next to the kang and 5-8 borg ships, needless to say the kang gets blown to bits and i say whatever and i stop healing or firing and i blow up myself then a guy in a schimitar says noobs don't come to elite etc etc while he blew up many times and didn't do that much damage.

    the second match i go in is the khitomer vortex bad team again on the right side two and they couldn't kill a transformer on my side one in a obelisk killed the left transformer and was firing at the gate not caring about anything else while i and another player where killing the borg cube until he was killed and two probes where coming to the vortex.

    i start firing at them while taking damage from the cube because the other player with me blew up and i manage to kill one probe and reduce the second to 10% health and then the cube fires one of it's uber op torps and blows me to bits.

    we lose the optional, i rewpawn and what do i see ? the player that was with me had gone to the right gate with the two others struggling to kill a transformer, while the obelisk was still firing at the right gate with one transformer and the cube that killed me still there, no one cared about anything in other words. i cloed the game immediately. let them put as many penalties as they want on me.

    i was a newbie too and i didn't know what to do but i have learned many things since a few months ago, but some guys don't even try to fake interest in learning they just press spacebar rapidly for a couple of hours and then that's it. man, sometimes i ask myself why do i even bother with mmo's they are full of stupid people.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,950 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Got a new one. Vault Ensnared. Guy in a patrol escort comes in with three injuries and spends the first five minutes parked at the spawn point. I give him my usual profanity-laced warning to start participating or I'll report him. He starts moving and whines at me that he's reported me for vulgarity.

    At that point, I said to myself, "Okay, you asked for it" and reported him as a leecher anyway.

    Everyone, the only way to deal with trolls, griefers, leechers, whatever, is to deal with them. Give them one chance to straighten up and fly right, then report them.
    If I had to guess, I would go with everyone thinking someone else will handle it.

    Yeah. I pug Khitomer fairly regularly and I don't ever assume people know to blast the probes. If somebody on my side of the map hasn't messaged they're on probes, I will break off whatever I'm doing when they turn up and go after them. With my setup I can take out four in under a minute pretty easily.
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  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Trying to figure this one out. ISE run, with optional, ended at about 12 minutes left. So a three or so minute run. Apparently one sphere up top got left behind when we switched sides, I was already in the middle clearing the big ball of gravity welled spheres.

    Names [Redacted] except for mine

    3:48] [Team] [Redacted1]: and there you go... dps chasers...

    [3:48] [Team] [Redacted1]: dannika, how about clearing probes first ?

    [3:50] [Team] [Redacted2]: gg

    [3:50] [Team] [email protected]: lol all the spawned ones were dead, i killed them and moved on

    [3:50] [Team] [Redacted3]: gg

    [3:50] [Team] [Redacted4]: gg

    [3:51] [Team] [Redacted1]: right... ignore

    [3:51] [Team] [email protected]: LOL

    [3:51] [Team] [Redacted3]: eh?

    [3:51] [Team] [Redacted3]: sorry was pew pewing.

    [3:51] [Team] [Redacted2]: ?

    [3:51] [Team] [email protected]: hes mad we did it so fast?

    [3:51] [Team] [Redacted2]: cu
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Well, I had an EPIC FAIL in Sirius recently. Granted I was flying a T'Varo and those are notoriously squishy, but still.... The Red Alert went reasonably, a bit slow, possibly due to me getting KOed several times.... I'm not even sure how I got it the third time... anyways.... the Unimatrix spawns, I start blasting it's regen probes, then when they're gone I blast at it.... then get triple TBed and KCBed.... OW. Apparently that can kill you through shields. this happens twice, then I look at the unimatrix and realize it's still a >90% and there's a swarm of probes, NOT regen probes, but a swarm all the same.

    Somehow this Unimatrix was spitting out probes so fast that the rest of the team got bogged down killing them. And there was a LOT of them....the third time I just gave up on fighting the UM and shot probes 'til the timer ran out.
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  • otowiotowi Member Posts: 600 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Well, I had an EPIC FAIL in Sirius recently. Granted I was flying a T'Varo and those are notoriously squishy, but still.... The Red Alert went reasonably, a bit slow, possibly due to me getting KOed several times.... I'm not even sure how I got it the third time... anyways.... the Unimatrix spawns, I start blasting it's regen probes, then when they're gone I blast at it.... then get triple TBed and KCBed.... OW. Apparently that can kill you through shields. this happens twice, then I look at the unimatrix and realize it's still a >90% and there's a swarm of probes, NOT regen probes, but a swarm all the same.

    Somehow this Unimatrix was spitting out probes so fast that the rest of the team got bogged down killing them. And there was a LOT of them....the third time I just gave up on fighting the UM and shot probes 'til the timer ran out.

    When this happens, it's usually two unmatrix ships that warps in on top of each other. When you target it, only one will show, but you notice it badly as you did when it/they starts turbocharging their probe output.

    Or it's simply a bug or a bad instance.

    This even happens in HSE and HSN with unimatrix ships there, but not often...

    The Borg must have some ship building capacity :eek: :P
  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Sometimes high DPS isn't a great thing - it's not teaching newer players how to actually play the STF's.

    I mean, an instance of ISE yesterday; after the initial cube exploded a new player flew straight over to the transformers and started blasting them. Thankfully, the cube above was taken down in short order.

    But that's my point - with the cube having been taken down so quickly, there is not really any way that the new player might be aware that attacking the transformers in the first instance isn't a good plan. (And as a side-note, I did message said player but didn't receive a reply so unsure whether it was read or lost to scrolling/chat not open etc).

    However, teaching only apply to fleet mates, not pugs. So if you tell your fleeties what to do, it shouldnt be a problem.

    And as sidenote, i figured the stfs out by myself, and by reading the descriptions. If ppl dont do this (and worse, get angry if you politely tell them the correct way) , you cant blame high-dps-players to play pugs how they do it normally, as long as it doesnt fail because of it.

    The stupidity of some ppl shouldnt be blamed on other ones.
  • madblooddollmadblooddoll Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Honestly I play a lot of games and sometimes when I come back to this one I forget a few things. Even with playing this game all the time, something bad stuff can happen... A mistake, but people treat it like it's the end of the world, because the guy yelling at that one person in the mission somehow is inhuman and never makes mistakes. I unfortunately do. I'm a professional at my real job, and I am very good at it, but it make mistakes there too. People need to be more forgiving in this game.

    I shouldn't even be comparing a game to a real job because Star Trek=fun/ not serious business.
  • comtedeloach2comtedeloach2 Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Has everybody forgotten how to do stf's? Things like people don't know about road guards on khitomers for the probes, or remember to kill all the nanotechnology generators before the transformers...
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,349 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Has everybody forgotten how to do stf's? Things like people don't know about road guards on khitomers for the probes, or remember to kill all the nanotechnology generators before the transformers...

    Likely infulx of new players who actually don't know how to do STF's.
  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Likely infulx of new players who actually don't know how to do STF's.

    And queue directly for Elite.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,349 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Another stinker of a team in Storming the Spire a few minutes ago.

    Seriously - talk about clueless. The whole useless lot of them simply hung around the far left side, protecting the friendly transports. The whole team (bar me). Leaving me, in my Fleet Nova, to deal with everything else.

    Needless to say, it didn't work - at one point I was set upon by no less than eight Voth ships. No amount of crowd control is sufficient under those circumstances - I did actually request backup at one point, but my plea was ignored. The best I could do was take an absolute pasting, GWIII the lot of them, give them a gravimetric TSIII to eat and then run like hell - was fortunate to stay in one piece.

    To be honest, with the team being as much use as an ejector seat in a helicopter, the troop count stacked 250/85 in the Voth's favour, and only me paying any attention to the Voth troop ships, I bailed.

    I just don't get it though - the fact that they were useless notwithstanding, it takes a special kind of idiot to look at that troop count and not realise that something isn't right.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 7,715 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Tried it once or twice, but people are using that STF as to semi-afk and get easy loot.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • fenr00kfenr00k Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Hmmm, these days the worst STF experience for me was one a few weeks back where my connection decided to go south on me whilst I was already in ISE. I ended up with such bad lag that I had no control of my ship and the borg vessels were loading with place holder names rather than actual names, luckily I DCd fairly quickly, but odds are it left the pug I was in thinking that I was a shoddy AFKer who then rage quit on them....

    It's bad enough when you have a team member not pulling their weight, it's even worst when through no fault of your own YOU are the team member not pulling their weight...

    Just thought I'd change things a bit from complaining about other people. ;) Gave me more of an insight into how sometimes maybe the pug member acting like an idiot doesn't actually have any say in the matter. Like the time I was doing cure space with my old fleet, lag (didn't know I was lagging until it was nearly too late) had my screen showing me attacking the probes under the first cube, with my fleet asking me what the heck I was doing, when boing suddenly my client caught up and I realised I was actually shooting the probes under the last cube.....:rolleyes:

    Just to note, any time I experience lag like this I log out of the game and start doing repeated tests on my connection and don't log back in until I am confident I'm not going to lag. Wish some other folks would learn to do the same. :P
  • gofasternowgofasternow Member Posts: 1,390 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Since I've been focusing on other things, I haven't had time to STF. A few recent incidents, though, made me the bad STF player due to getting DCed in the middle of a match. I've also had my share of the people who join that one Federation Fleet Action who bail before the final match.
  • bpharmabpharma Member Posts: 2,022
    edited December 2013
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Another stinker of a team in Storming the Spire a few minutes ago.

    Seriously - talk about clueless. The whole useless lot of them simply hung around the far left side, protecting the friendly transports. The whole team (bar me). Leaving me, in my Fleet Nova, to deal with everything else.

    Needless to say, it didn't work - at one point I was set upon by no less than eight Voth ships. No amount of crowd control is sufficient under those circumstances - I did actually request backup at one point, but my plea was ignored. The best I could do was take an absolute pasting, GWIII the lot of them, give them a gravimetric TSIII to eat and then run like hell - was fortunate to stay in one piece.

    To be honest, with the team being as much use as an ejector seat in a helicopter, the troop count stacked 250/85 in the Voth's favour, and only me paying any attention to the Voth troop ships, I bailed.

    I just don't get it though - the fact that they were useless notwithstanding, it takes a special kind of idiot to look at that troop count and not realise that something isn't right.

    Yeah I'm amazed by how clueless some people are in the spire, needless to say I choose to do the breach as I can drag a bad team through it.

    Though, the both pose very little threat, I'm surprised you didn't hand out the pasting even in a science ship.

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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,349 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    bpharma wrote: »
    Yeah I'm amazed by how clueless some people are in the spire, needless to say I choose to do the breach as I can drag a bad team through it.

    Though, the both pose very little threat, I'm surprised you didn't hand out the pasting even in a science ship.

    Usually would, but one Fleet Nova vs eight Voth ships was a bit much. Best I was able to do was GWIII them, give them a gravimetric TSIII, then back off to heal.
  • sle1989sle1989 Member Posts: 552 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Went into Khitomer Ground Elite and no one but me knew what to do. But they all had at least progressed through some of the Omega Tiers. Two even had Tier 5 armor sets. One even had the optional accolade costume unlock, so how he had no clue what to do I'll never know.
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