Yah, I'm the sicko, keep telling yourself that every time you grief someone to get your jollies.
In my line of work, we call this a gateway behavior. It signals a type of criminal intent.
And no one is safe from it. I get a great deal of joy introducing perps to the system. I can at least tell myself I'm removing this element from the world.
What do you call people who wish to kill others over a minor annoyance? I'd call them mentally disturbed.
Really wishing for that Black Ice right about now chummers.
In case anyone wasn't aware, Black Ice is a thing from Shadowrun that allows you to kill people via the internet. This class act of a man wishes to kill you for using a disco ball in a video game. I do like how he's tried to hide it with video game references so he doesn't look quite as crazy, but the earlier sexual assault comparisons have really ruined that.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
Whether it be virtual or real world, forcing someone to do something against their will is wrong and illegal.
R*** is R*** whether it be mind or body.
When she says, "NO" she means NO.
Adults can understand this concept. Unfortunately, not everyone grows up.
Really wishing for that Black Ice right about now chummers.
Grow some perspective. You're comparing being zapped with a dance toy in an online spaceship game with something real and incredibly traumatic to the victims, and by doing so, trivializing it.
Actually it's even worse than that, because you can always walk away from a disco ball, but a **** victim can't walk away from a rapist. You disgust me.
(Yes, it needs to be fixed if even one person doesn't like it.)
Anytime someone uses a Dancing Ball, they become immediately targetable by everyone else.
That way if the people here are correct, 90% of the people won't shoot them for it.
The Dancing Ballers get their jollies by griefing and the rest of us "not fun" people get our jollies by shooting them. (Which is much more ralistic IMO.) Heck I'd even let my Toon dance on top of the offender after.
As for you people that keep roasting the R thing. I already quantified that for you in my last post.
You are merely proving my point as the only thing you can do is smear me, you have no other comeback. Like I would actually promote that behavior, I SAVE people from that type of behavior, that's why we are arguing. The Griefers are exhibiting criminal behavior that in the RW would be punished if just one person complained about it. Heck, I wouldn't have to punish them, most of the people around them would take care of the DP.
You finally figured out the Shadowrun reference in your search for more smear material. Seriously, you are committing me on an RPG reference. Where's the "tongue in cheek" emoticon?
You are merely proving my point as the only thing you can do is smear me, you have no other comeback. Like I would actually promote that behavior, I SAVE people from that type of behavior, that's why we are arguing. The Griefers are exhibiting criminal behavior that in the RW would be punished if just one person complained about it. Heck, I wouldn't have to punish them, most of the people around them would take care of the DP.
Try to dispute the opinion, not the person.
My family been in law enforcement for over 30 years....they don't really do much saving ...most of the time it's dealing with the aftermath of a crime...but please keep going...I'm quite amused
My family been in law enforcement for over 30 years....they don't really do much saving ...most of the time it's dealing with the aftermath of a crime...but please keep going...I'm quite amused
Law Enforcement is mostly about prevention. Recognizing deviant behavior for what it is goes a long way in identifying criminal types. Griefers are gateway perps just waiting for their chance.
Not a lot of that here. I wouldn't know any other Law types were in this thread by the acceptance of this behavior even if it is a video game.
My family been in law enforcement for over 30 years....they don't really do much saving ...most of the time it's dealing with the aftermath of a crime...but please keep going...I'm quite amused
Yeah I have to agree with this. Thlay.... something or other, is way out in left field here.
Like I said before, a VALID real world analogy would be forcing people to listen to disco music.... and stuff like that happens every day.
It's not about "Acceptance of bad behaviour" it's about realizing you can't force others to do things your way.
The party amplifier does not explicitly break the Behavior and Harassment Policy. Annoying, maybe. But it does not stop you from doing anything normally. It can't be spammed as you can't use them within range of another.
Now it can be argued it can interfere with player gatherings, but if you are in a public place in your player event you'll have to suffer the fact it isn't private. That is what fleet starbases or bridges are for.
Law Enforcement is mostly about prevention. Recognizing deviant behavior for what it is goes a long way in identifying criminal types. Griefers are gateway perps just waiting for their chance.
Not a lot of that here. I wouldn't know any other Law types were in this thread by the acceptance of this behavior even if it is a video game.
It's a well known fact that the worst criminals in history got their start by making pretend people pretend dance.
Law Enforcement is mostly about prevention. Recognizing deviant behavior for what it is goes a long way in identifying criminal types. Griefers are gateway perps just waiting for their chance.
Not a lot of that here. I wouldn't know any other Law types were in this thread by the acceptance of this behavior even if it is a video game.
Next you're going to tell me violent in video games make killers. :rolleyes:
Next you're going to tell me violent in video games make killers. :rolleyes:
Seriously.
If STO had any influence on our real-world behavior or visa-versa we'd all be war criminals.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Next you're going to tell me violent in video games make killers. :rolleyes:
Video games don't make us violent, bugs and lagging do! :eek:;)
Personally, I think the PA would be a lot less annoying if the dancing itself didn't suck so much. Being forced to dance is one thing, but forced to do the likes of the running man, which was even lame then, is what has me changing instances when someone "pops one".
Personally, I"d rather do a good Samba than dodder around like an inebriated club rat, but that's just me I guess... :P
Criticism, while never agreeable, is necessary. It is like pain in the body. It brings attention to an unhealthy state of things---Winston Churchill
I have come here to tell the horrid story of what these disco balls have done to me.... the other day I thought I would just beam down to post some things on the exchange and move some things to my bank..... well, I found when I beamed down someone had put one of these disco balls on the transporter pad so I beamed down and started dancing! Can you believe that? DANCING? Well, I went and pressed my key to start moving forward and found, much to my chagrin that I could walk right off the pad with no problem. I then proceeded to head to the exchange and found someone has put another one of those disco balls there too, and I began to dance again! In the process of dancing I discovered, once again to my horror that I was able to interact with the exchange do my business and leave with no problem.
Clearly we must come together to control this disco ball griefing.
Other griefing actions we need to put an end to are people wearing bright colored uniforms in public, people with odd colored hair and people dancing in public places.
Guess it would be a bad time to tell those offended by the disco ball consumable about this years winter event award.....The XII Sonic "Brown Note" grenade(ACC) (CRIT) (DMGx2).:D
That's some serious rainbow FAW action there. Perhaps next year we could have a disco torp launcher for ships. Dancing tactical cubes would improve STFs considerably.
That's some serious rainbow FAW action there. Perhaps next year we could have a disco torp launcher for ships. Dancing tactical cubes would improve STFs considerably.
Does that mean that Cubes would do a Square Dance?
Game Trolls pop "numerous" party globes to put players FPS into the red and mess up their video cards. Same reason there is NO more ice cubes...Game Troll's RUIN all the cool stuff Cryptic puts into the game...that is why they are called...Game Trolls...YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE...
Ohhh and missle spamming in PvP and PvE...does the same thing...where there is a will, there is a way to mess up players video cards. BUT, if it is in the game is it really spamming or just good tactic's?
Not everybody can afford $1000 video cards, so YES we need a turn off button instead of going into game options and start turning stuff off.
However, I blame Cryptic for putting sooo many cool things into the game that give the Game Trolls things to play with.
my 2 ec's worth during patch time
Betty
"Sips her PWE Koolaide and looks at alllll the goodies in the Z store"
Badname Betty (PvP...PvE...STF...Trophy Hunter...Latnium Collector...Federation)
Commander Morgana (PvP...PvE...STF...KDF)
1000 day vet and LTS
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] STO Join date: 7 Feb 2010
The OP has a very sane and simple suggestion that should satisfy both sides of the argument, except the people who use these sorts of devices to deliberately try and annoy others.
There's no reason not to have a "no, thank you" switch. Different people find different things amusing, and what's harmless fun to someone could send another into a frothing rage. One person's fun should not come at the expense of another's fun, either way.
in order to get annoyed by those disco balls, you need to spend an awful lot of time in social zones. Why would you want to spend time there instead of blowing stuff, collecting contrabands, disabling ships, doffing, STFs etc etc.
rping is just a waste of time so discoballs is a way to get them involved in gaming
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Ain't Nobody Got Time for That
I agree with the OP, the party amplifier is a grieving tool because it intereact with people that don't want. This is a way to attack people (Someone starte the amplifier deliberatly to anger me).
So The party amplifier should work only on the character in the same party as the player starting it and a limit number of pnj. Why pnj should be immune? Because whenyou are speak to you contact and it start to dance this is annoying. Anything that annoy people can be use to grieve them. So important pnj should be immune to the Party Amplifier.
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And yet here you are, demanding people be forced not to share the love of disco with the world. Disco will never die.
What do you call people who wish to kill others over a minor annoyance? I'd call them mentally disturbed.
In case anyone wasn't aware, Black Ice is a thing from Shadowrun that allows you to kill people via the internet. This class act of a man wishes to kill you for using a disco ball in a video game. I do like how he's tried to hide it with video game references so he doesn't look quite as crazy, but the earlier sexual assault comparisons have really ruined that.
Grow some perspective. You're comparing being zapped with a dance toy in an online spaceship game with something real and incredibly traumatic to the victims, and by doing so, trivializing it.
Actually it's even worse than that, because you can always walk away from a disco ball, but a **** victim can't walk away from a rapist. You disgust me.
(Yes, it needs to be fixed if even one person doesn't like it.)
Anytime someone uses a Dancing Ball, they become immediately targetable by everyone else.
That way if the people here are correct, 90% of the people won't shoot them for it.
The Dancing Ballers get their jollies by griefing and the rest of us "not fun" people get our jollies by shooting them. (Which is much more ralistic IMO.) Heck I'd even let my Toon dance on top of the offender after.
As for you people that keep roasting the R thing. I already quantified that for you in my last post.
You are merely proving my point as the only thing you can do is smear me, you have no other comeback. Like I would actually promote that behavior, I SAVE people from that type of behavior, that's why we are arguing. The Griefers are exhibiting criminal behavior that in the RW would be punished if just one person complained about it. Heck, I wouldn't have to punish them, most of the people around them would take care of the DP.
You finally figured out the Shadowrun reference in your search for more smear material. Seriously, you are committing me on an RPG reference. Where's the "tongue in cheek" emoticon?
Try to dispute the opinion, not the person.
My family been in law enforcement for over 30 years....they don't really do much saving ...most of the time it's dealing with the aftermath of a crime...but please keep going...I'm quite amused
However, you know I was asking for it, because of the way my 'toons dress, what with all the fancy colors and all!!!:)
/You can't "Dance-****" the willing!!!!
I see what you did there
I hate that guy as well.
Law Enforcement is mostly about prevention. Recognizing deviant behavior for what it is goes a long way in identifying criminal types. Griefers are gateway perps just waiting for their chance.
Not a lot of that here. I wouldn't know any other Law types were in this thread by the acceptance of this behavior even if it is a video game.
Like I said before, a VALID real world analogy would be forcing people to listen to disco music.... and stuff like that happens every day.
It's not about "Acceptance of bad behaviour" it's about realizing you can't force others to do things your way.
My character Tsin'xing
Now it can be argued it can interfere with player gatherings, but if you are in a public place in your player event you'll have to suffer the fact it isn't private. That is what fleet starbases or bridges are for.
https://support.perfectworld.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4027/~/%28sto%29-behavior-and-harassment-policy Here is the Policy regarding such things. Take a look and you'll realize that the amplifier does not violate this.
So really, stop complaining, change instances and continue on your merry way. Their here, and they will probably return next year too.
DeltaFox
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
It's a well known fact that the worst criminals in history got their start by making pretend people pretend dance.
The monsters! String them up and let em hang!
Next you're going to tell me violent in video games make killers. :rolleyes:
Seriously.
If STO had any influence on our real-world behavior or visa-versa we'd all be war criminals.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Video games don't make us violent, bugs and lagging do! :eek:;)
Personally, I think the PA would be a lot less annoying if the dancing itself didn't suck so much. Being forced to dance is one thing, but forced to do the likes of the running man, which was even lame then, is what has me changing instances when someone "pops one".
Personally, I"d rather do a good Samba than dodder around like an inebriated club rat, but that's just me I guess... :P
Clearly we must come together to control this disco ball griefing.
Other griefing actions we need to put an end to are people wearing bright colored uniforms in public, people with odd colored hair and people dancing in public places.
Does that mean that Cubes would do a Square Dance?
That's right, I went there.
:P
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Ohhh and missle spamming in PvP and PvE...does the same thing...where there is a will, there is a way to mess up players video cards. BUT, if it is in the game is it really spamming or just good tactic's?
Not everybody can afford $1000 video cards, so YES we need a turn off button instead of going into game options and start turning stuff off.
However, I blame Cryptic for putting sooo many cool things into the game that give the Game Trolls things to play with.
my 2 ec's worth during patch time
Betty
Badname Betty (PvP...PvE...STF...Trophy Hunter...Latnium Collector...Federation)
Commander Morgana (PvP...PvE...STF...KDF)
1000 day vet and LTS
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] STO Join date: 7 Feb 2010
this game is 4 years old, you can get a good Video card for cheep to play this game.
Dear me that is something I wish I had watched after a night out it would have been more intersting that way :P
What is cheap is relative. My PC went bang, or more precisely its' PSU. It took me a couple of months to save up the ?18 needed to replace it.
the thread itself went from logical to wow.. and then ended somewhere inbetween lol
There's no reason not to have a "no, thank you" switch. Different people find different things amusing, and what's harmless fun to someone could send another into a frothing rage. One person's fun should not come at the expense of another's fun, either way.
rping is just a waste of time so discoballs is a way to get them involved in gaming
Ain't Nobody Got Time for That
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
So The party amplifier should work only on the character in the same party as the player starting it and a limit number of pnj. Why pnj should be immune? Because whenyou are speak to you contact and it start to dance this is annoying. Anything that annoy people can be use to grieve them. So important pnj should be immune to the Party Amplifier.
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