Tell me, what's the defense in the case where two people are roleplaying and suddenly someone arrives with their disco ball and intentionally decides to force it on them? This person obviously knows it will disrupt the others' play.
Is it obvious? or is the disco-fiend just having fun?
Tell me, what's the defense in the case where two people are roleplaying and suddenly someone arrives with their disco ball and intentionally decides to force it on them? This person obviously knows it will disrupt the others' play.
This is full of assumptions. It is well established from all of the other closed disco ball threads that the party amps do not interfere with others gameplay. You'll also find that no one is actually telepathic and can't read your mind in relation to party amps.
You seem surprised that people will put party amps down in a social zone. You do not control that zone and nor are you the boss of it. If you do not want to be in proximity of the party amp then you just move. You can't claim to know the intent of someone putting down a party amp. However, that is exactly what you are doing with your biased example.
The real question is how do you defend trying to force your anti-social behaviour onto other players?
Roleplayers, on the whole, take issue when others decide to act for their own character. It's called modding.
Then roleplayers, on the whole, need to realize that this is Star Trek, where anything can (and does) happen. Especially having some alien override their nervous systems.
And as a roleplayer I take issue with people telling me how I'm supposed to feel about items that enhance my enjoyment of the game.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
This is full of assumptions. It is well established from all of the other closed disco ball threads that the party amps do not interfere with others gameplay. You'll also find that no one is actually telepathic and can't read your mind in relation to party amps.
You seem surprised that people will put party amps down in a social zone. You do not control that zone and nor are you the boss of it. If you do not want to be in proximity of the party amp then you just move. You can't claim to know the intent of someone putting down a party amp. However, that is exactly what you are doing with your biased example.
The real question is how do you defend trying to force your anti-social behaviour onto other players?
This is not the case as discussed above. You are not telepathic.
Correction: You're defending the anti-social behavior.
How about a little check box in options that when checked, we dance to party amps, on by default. Or if we prefer not to, we go to options and uncheck that box, then we don't dance to party amps. Simple solution.
Then roleplayers, on the whole, need to realize that this is Star Trek, where anything can (and does) happen. Especially having some alien override their nervous systems.
And as a roleplayer I take issue with people telling me how I'm supposed to feel about items that enhance my enjoyment of the game.
Use the disco ball all you like, just don't use it to annoy others. There's where I, the OP, and others like us take issue.
You can't claim to know the intent of someone putting down a party amp.
Again, it could be that RP'ers species' way of saying "hello."
Don't run away from new life or tell it to leave you alone - seek it out!
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
How about a little check box in options that when checked, we dance to party amps, on by default. Or if we prefer not to, we go to options and uncheck that box, then we don't dance to party amps. Simple solution.
Simple, but apparently draconian--if you were to believe the people I'm currently discussing this with. The option to opt out of the dance animation through either a checkbox or a pop-up actionable is a solution that allows others to use their dance balls without bother people who don't want to be subjected to them. Everyone's happy.
Again, unless the real motivation behind the defense is really just because some like to annoy people...
We can dance if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
Cause your friends don't dance
And if they don't dance
Well they're no friends of mine
Say, we can go where we want to
A place where they will never find
And we can act like we come from out of this world
Because you're one far behind
disco balls ( or any emote) do not affect the Dabo game window at all....it's a separate and self contained windowed minigame.
same with the exchange/bank/mail windows ..... not affected at all by emotes.
but nice try
I think he's saying that the Dabo areas have become a haven for the disco ball dancers. So if you're trying to avoid dancing along, you either have to give up on Dabo and the other activities, or suck it up and take it.
There's too much over dramatisation of disco balls. The fact that people are making up stories about how disco balls kicked their dog or TRIBBLE their bank account are a bit ridiculous.
Well, that's the thing....every time one of these threads get started, people like you and the OP immediately fall into the minority. The role players in this game seem to think that they have some sway over the game, when they are a clear minority, albeit a loud minority. The fact is that most players either don't care or enjoy the disco balls. I see them everywhere, in every public zone. This means they are popular; this means that the majority of players are fine with them.
Sometimes I am at the exchange, or playing dabo, or talking with other players, and someone drops a disco ball over my head. I deal with it. Most of us could care less about your immersion, because we want to play a game.
Being in the minority has nothing to do with it. Your anecdotal evidence as to the "popularity" of the disco balls is just as good as my evidence of abuse. People using the disco balls are a minority, so I'm not entirely sure that's a road you want to go down if you're trying to support a defense of these things.
How does making it optional (through the use of a checkbox or other such setting) impact your enjoyment? Because some players' insistence on subjecting me to their own ideas of fun impacts mine.
This isn't about telling you that you can't enjoy the game your way. This is about telling you that you can't make me enjoy the game your way.
So that's what happens when Ferengis get into the Romulan ale...
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
There's too much over dramatisation of disco balls. The fact that people are making up stories about how disco balls kicked their dog or TRIBBLE their bank account are a bit ridiculous.
There would be too much dramatization... provided your statement about bank accounts and dogs wasn't just hyperbole. :P
Don't make claims on my behalf. I'm not the one trying to control behaviour in the social zones in the game.
er......actually, that's exactly what you're doing.
A disco ball is ignited and all the characters in ange begin dancing, whether they want to or not.
This is controlling other peoples characters behaviour.
Admittedly in a way that does no functional damage to any ingame mechanics, but nevertheless it is an imposition.
So, let's be honest here.
You want to control other toons behaviour to make them dance when you feel like it.
Presumably because you find that fun.
And there's nothing wrong with having fun........however, as the old saw has it, your rights end when mine begins.
The idea that one should be able to opt out of the disco balls is clearly not an imposition on anyones ability to play the game........unless, your enjoyment of the game is predicated on preventing people RPing.
Now, I think SD aren't stupid. Far from it.
Neither am I.
So how about you drop the BS.
You want to control other peoples behaviour in a way you find fun.
Why not be honest about it, instead of insulting any intelligences that may be reading this thread by pretending you don't want to control anyone?
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This is full of assumptions. It is well established from all of the other closed disco ball threads that the party amps do not interfere with others gameplay. You'll also find that no one is actually telepathic and can't read your mind in relation to party amps.
You seem surprised that people will put party amps down in a social zone. You do not control that zone and nor are you the boss of it. If you do not want to be in proximity of the party amp then you just move. You can't claim to know the intent of someone putting down a party amp. However, that is exactly what you are doing with your biased example.
The real question is how do you defend trying to force your anti-social behaviour onto other players?
This is not the case as discussed above. You are not telepathic.
They must be getting some kind of enjoyment out of it, why else would they do it?
Then roleplayers, on the whole, need to realize that this is Star Trek, where anything can (and does) happen. Especially having some alien override their nervous systems.
And as a roleplayer I take issue with people telling me how I'm supposed to feel about items that enhance my enjoyment of the game.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Dancing, fun? How outrageous!
Correction: You're defending the anti-social behavior.
Use the disco ball all you like, just don't use it to annoy others. There's where I, the OP, and others like us take issue.
Don't run away from new life or tell it to leave you alone - seek it out!
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
and from reading your determined responses to every post that has an alternate view...... the word "quarrelsome" is coming to mind .....
---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
Don't make claims on my behalf. I'm not the one trying to control behaviour in the social zones in the game.
Simple, but apparently draconian--if you were to believe the people I'm currently discussing this with. The option to opt out of the dance animation through either a checkbox or a pop-up actionable is a solution that allows others to use their dance balls without bother people who don't want to be subjected to them. Everyone's happy.
Again, unless the real motivation behind the defense is really just because some like to annoy people...
No? Isn't controlling the behavior of others in social zones exactly what the dance ball does? :rolleyes:
This appears to be a first contact situation. It's time to dance!
No it doesn't you retain control of your own actions, and your mind. It is not a mind control device.
We can leave your friends behind
Cause your friends don't dance
And if they don't dance
Well they're no friends of mine
Say, we can go where we want to
A place where they will never find
And we can act like we come from out of this world
Because you're one far behind
We can dance
We can go where we want to
disco balls ( or any emote) do not affect the Dabo game window at all....it's a separate and self contained windowed minigame.
same with the exchange/bank/mail windows ..... not affected at all by emotes.
but nice try
---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
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I think he's saying that the Dabo areas have become a haven for the disco ball dancers. So if you're trying to avoid dancing along, you either have to give up on Dabo and the other activities, or suck it up and take it.
There's too much over dramatisation of disco balls. The fact that people are making up stories about how disco balls kicked their dog or TRIBBLE their bank account are a bit ridiculous.
Being in the minority has nothing to do with it. Your anecdotal evidence as to the "popularity" of the disco balls is just as good as my evidence of abuse. People using the disco balls are a minority, so I'm not entirely sure that's a road you want to go down if you're trying to support a defense of these things.
How does making it optional (through the use of a checkbox or other such setting) impact your enjoyment? Because some players' insistence on subjecting me to their own ideas of fun impacts mine.
This isn't about telling you that you can't enjoy the game your way. This is about telling you that you can't make me enjoy the game your way.
engineers should be banned too....their medical and shield turrets are killing my game environment.
and those danged pets running around...they are so un-canon and are killing my star trek experience !
did that guy just say something via local in all caps ??!??!?!! that's offensive !
etc....etc......etc......
---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
So that's what happens when Ferengis get into the Romulan ale...
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
There would be too much dramatization... provided your statement about bank accounts and dogs wasn't just hyperbole. :P
Suddenly hypotheticals are a sound argument. Glad to see you come around. :P
er......actually, that's exactly what you're doing.
A disco ball is ignited and all the characters in ange begin dancing, whether they want to or not.
This is controlling other peoples characters behaviour.
Admittedly in a way that does no functional damage to any ingame mechanics, but nevertheless it is an imposition.
So, let's be honest here.
You want to control other toons behaviour to make them dance when you feel like it.
Presumably because you find that fun.
And there's nothing wrong with having fun........however, as the old saw has it, your rights end when mine begins.
The idea that one should be able to opt out of the disco balls is clearly not an imposition on anyones ability to play the game........unless, your enjoyment of the game is predicated on preventing people RPing.
Now, I think SD aren't stupid. Far from it.
Neither am I.
So how about you drop the BS.
You want to control other peoples behaviour in a way you find fun.
Why not be honest about it, instead of insulting any intelligences that may be reading this thread by pretending you don't want to control anyone?
not hypothetical at all...true stories, and they all break my immersion and force me to experience them against my will.
I want these things taken out of the game !
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---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
excellent idea we should also ban the sound the maco engine creates , put a muffler on that sucker .