Aaaand aren't you also pretending to be a starship captain in the same video game? Just sayin'.....
Gawd no, you'd think I'd still be playing if I had to act like a real captain. I'd be kicked out of the bridge after like 20 minutes, including the 15 minutes needed to figure out how to get the ship moving in the first place
Truth be told I'm just here to watch space pixels shoot at each other and have some fun doing it. The only times I act a 'proper captain' is when the game expects me too, as conditions for quest completion.
But you make a fair point, and in the interest of fairness I shall grant you a "touche'".
I hadn't been buying them but this thread put me over.
No weirder than guys who think annoying someone else is fun. That to me is weird, but hey, anything that rocks your boat.
Psychology and human behavior should be mandatory teaching in schools starting from elementary. Didn't used to be needed because the basic insights into our behavior were passed down from one generation to another under the auspices of Wisdom; but not anymore it seems. Instead it's become a more taboo subject than sex. We're so scared of ourselves we get annoyed whenever we hear psychological insights, especially if it doesn't fit our pre-conceived notions. As it stands, rocket science is more advanced than the understanding of what lies in our cerebrum. And I don't expect you'll even remotely comprehend anything I say.
Why whine over something that does not effect your game play? Your lives must be that good that you have nothing better to moan and whine about nothing....
If Cryptic gave me A Son'a transporter drone and I could get to transport players to my brig for <enter amount of time> then it would be understandable...... but these things make your character dance, if your using a terminal they do not disrupt you and chances are you can hardly see it anyway, If you are just standing around then just move away if they bother you. Life is to short to worry or get butt-hurt about stuff like this.:P
Why whine over something that does not effect your game play? Your lives must be that good that you have nothing better to moan and whine about nothing....
If Cryptic gave me A Son'a transporter drone and I could get to transport players to my brig for <enter amount of time> then it would be understandable...... but these things make your character dance, if your using a terminal they do not disrupt you and chances are you can hardly see it anyway, If you are just standing around then just move away if they bother you. Life is to short to worry or get butt-hurt about stuff like this.:P
It's not a whine, it's a concern voiced by the OP and shared by others because some players use the ability to deliberately harass a group or single player. I'm not against Disco balls, but I don't advocate their abuse either. Voicing concerns is an important function of the forums in case you haven't noticed.
It's not a whine, it's a concern voiced by the OP and shared by others because some players use the ability to deliberately harass a group or single player. I'm not against Disco balls, but I don't advocate their abuse either. Voicing concerns is an important function of the forums in case you haven't noticed.
They are not being abused, they would be abused if they effected your game play in some sort of way or if they are being used in a place they are not supposed to be.... they currently have no location restrictions so.........
I am not a fan of them but they don't bother me, they only people I can see being annoyed are the ones buying nerve tonic for the dance, the devs can fix that by adding it to the emotes (could earn it from a small mission to do with being captured by the Orion's and sold in to slavery).
With all the Tribble/extinguisher/balloon guns and Cryo devices... this disco ball is nothing. The only thing that ever effected my game play was the balloon gun, I run all settings on full without any problems but if that gun if fired in 1 particular place (I will not share) it kills my FPS.
You may be a party pooper, but you're definitely a liar, considering they're coded so they don't make you dance while you're using those. Have you got a real complaint?
Actually in Ds9 it did exactly that when my character was trying to use the exchange/bank
NO TO ARC
Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I really wouldn't be so sure that nothing will be done.
LOTRO had the same problem - festival emotes that took over other people's characters cosmetically. After numerous cycles of complaint, the devs finally gave up and implemented an opt-out.
It did take a couple of years though...
"Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
1> False, which is one of the main uses of this item by a certain fleet. If you have just spent 10k (or whatever they sell for nowadays on the exchange) on a Nerve Tonic and pop the cork and down it, now you're doing the belly dance which SFD and its ilk so despise. Then along comes one of those moral thought police who believe it is their job to insulate adults from seeing an ancient artform, and he/she pops one of these dancing griefer balls. Guess what? Your 10k (or whatever) is down the toilet. Because you stop doing your dance, and start doing their dance. I had been loathe to point this out in the public fora, but by now I doubt anyone in the troll fleets is unaware of this "feature." Yeah, you can get various foundry missions to do the dance, too, but they are tied to specific locations, which may or may not be ideal, for whatever reasons.
2> And noise and flashing light.
And to refer to someone who doesn't want others controlling his/her toon as "imposing ... [their] whiny attitude on someone else that might be looking to inject a little fun ..." is really, like, totally ironic -- or, y'know, just simply obtuse.
Ok, reply to your reply:
1> Ok, was unaware of that one, never have used a "nerve tonic" myself. But ok, maybe you need to throw a bug report at Cryptic, they may be able to add the "nerve tonic dance" as a higher priority interaction, than the disco ball's. So that would preserve the intended use of the disco balls not impairing anyone's interaction.
2> You don't want flashing lights? Why do you play this game then. And ground and space battle is going to have those as well. Are you going to ***** about those next? And my saying is hardly ironic. Life is full of seeing things we don't necessarily like, when around groups of other people. Don't want to see it? Too bad. As long as it's not going to far, ie, having to hear people having sex, or talking about it (as in ERP), or similar, it's still along the line's of, "Stop playing football around here, I'm trying to read!!!" whinyness. SO again, no sympathy for those. I have to constantly put up with bullcrap convo's in Zone chat. Guess what? No one's going to stop just because I don't like them. So suck it up, and if you hate them THAT much, find ye a seccluded area with the various terminals you need, and conduct your business there.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
I have stockpiled a few thousand of dancing balls, and I am going to launch them wherever I want and whenever I want. :P
Love to launch it in risa when someone is resting on those beach benches or on RP players. Yesterday, I launched one in the middle of wedding ceremony in Bajor, and suffice to say the chat was full of adjectives
Actually, you're the reason ppl are ********. Sheesh, a little RP (non-offensive I might add) fun, and you feel compelled to ruin it for them? I hope you and your ilk get account banned for THAT bs.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
Ok, reply to your reply:
1> Ok, was unaware of that one, never have used a "nerve tonic" myself. But ok, maybe you need to throw a bug report at Cryptic, they may be able to add the "nerve tonic dance" as a higher priority interaction, than the disco ball's. So that would preserve the intended use of the disco balls not impairing anyone's interaction.
2> You don't want flashing lights? Why do you play this game then. And ground and space battle is going to have those as well. Are you going to ***** about those next? And my saying is hardly ironic. Life is full of seeing things we don't necessarily like, when around groups of other people. Don't want to see it? Too bad. As long as it's not going to far, ie, having to hear people having sex, or talking about it (as in ERP), or similar, it's still along the line's of, "Stop playing football around here, I'm trying to read!!!" whinyness. SO again, no sympathy for those. I have to constantly put up with bullcrap convo's in Zone chat. Guess what? No one's going to stop just because I don't like them. So suck it up, and if you hate them THAT much, find ye a seccluded area with the various terminals you need, and conduct your business there.
1> We've requested that it be made an emote, an earned emote, even a C-Store emote, but so far, there remain only two ways to do it: obtain a Nerve Tonic (you buy it, someone gives it to you, you go make one in the mission, whatever) and use that item, or find a foundry mission with the dance and go to the specific location(s) where the foundry mission has set up an interactive node.
2> I was just being thorough in enumerating the effects of the item. :P
Hey, Mod person. Grrr. Our thread had a much cooler title.
Best solution is to move ALL social area resources to ship's bridges.
That way only the "fun" people will be experiencing these "fun" items.
Many people are here for the Star Trek.
That some people are here just for the griefing... er I mean MMO is just sad.
Well, I, for one, am glad that you don't get to decide when and where people are allowed to have fun. Because, y'know, if you're not ingame to have fun, why the hell are you playing? Sure, your idea of fun may differ from someone else's, but that doesn't mean only YOUR fun should be allowed everywhere. Seriously. It's a disco ball that makes your character dance within a certain range, and as far as I know, pretty hard to spam. It doesn't mess with anything you're doing, unless you're using emotes. Even the tonic-dances being disturbed is rather shrug-worthy, since they're either rather cheap on the exchange, or you can be not-so-lazy and pick up as many as your boffs can carry in the space of twenty minutes or so.
It's kind of amusing though, that so many people get upset over these things. Party Poppers, that can be understood since people may not want to have to change their Debris settings just because someone wants to spam balloons, but the Amplifier simply adds a bit of music, light, and animates the characters nearby. It's about as strenuous on your computer as dancing in Club 47.
The only option I would like to see added to the party amp is the option to select which disco track it plays.
Personally I would have mine set to "Space Bass" by Slick and I would prefer that the party amp remain active for the entire seven-plus-minute performance.
Oh, heck, if it would do that, I'd set mine to any number of 70's and 80's pop & rock songs, hehe!!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
1> We've requested that it be made an emote, an earned emote, even a C-Store emote, but so far, there remain only two ways to do it: obtain a Nerve Tonic (you buy it, someone gives it to you, you go make one in the mission, whatever) and use that item, or find a foundry mission with the dance and go to the specific location(s) where the foundry mission has set up an interactive node.
2> I was just being thorough in enumerating the effects of the item. :P
Hey, Mod person. Grrr. Our thread had a much cooler title.
Still, the fact that it's overriding an interaction, I'd still advise you to throw in a bug report, as it's fully stated in the item's effects that it WILL NOT override a PC's interactions. Just my advice, maybe something will get done about it, and you can spend that amount on those things, and not have it ruined by someone popping a disco ball. (As I see it, this would classify as a bug)
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
The only option I would like to see added to the party amp is the option to select which disco track it plays.
Personally I would have mine set to "Space Bass" by Slick and I would prefer that the party amp remain active for the entire seven-plus-minute performance.
I think that someone who thinks an online item which makes your toon dance when it's doing nothing else, and does not prevent them from doing anything else seriously needs to review what the word "harassment" actually means..... I would rather they be concerned with actual cases of harassment.
I think that someone who thinks an online item which makes your toon dance when it's doing nothing else, and does not prevent them from doing anything else seriously needs to review what the word "harassment" actually means..... I would rather they be concerned with actual cases of harassment.
It breaks any emote you were doing. It prevents you from doing any emote other than combadge (which after it finishes, returns you to dancing). That's an issue. That's how it can affect/harass people that are doing something.
It breaks any emote you were doing. It prevents you from doing any emote other than combadge (which after it finishes, returns you to dancing). That's an issue. That's how it can affect/harass people that are doing something.
Last time I logged into my KDF, I heard J'mpok blathering "There is much honor in the dance. We must demonstrate it anytime we are not busy and underneath the disco ball".
That, and my Fed characters received an update to SFR 99-X, under "proper decorum for uniformed officers", specifically the "disco ball" section... (for those who might be unfamiliar, SFR = Starfleet Regulations)
That leaves the Rommies, and I think D'Tan muttered something about "Tal'Shiar don't dance and Sela don't rock and roll, so we need to..." However, I then heard that the Tal'Shiar held immediate dance classes to cover their trails...
LOL
also i vote that the Dico Ball plays the Tune - Dance Commander by Electric Six, just for ironies sake, or even Improper Dancing , again for obvious reasons
After 20+ pages of numerous whinging and and Cries of Greifing my brain is about ready to pour out my ears in repsonse to the self interest shown here
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Gawd no, you'd think I'd still be playing if I had to act like a real captain. I'd be kicked out of the bridge after like 20 minutes, including the 15 minutes needed to figure out how to get the ship moving in the first place
Truth be told I'm just here to watch space pixels shoot at each other and have some fun doing it. The only times I act a 'proper captain' is when the game expects me too, as conditions for quest completion.
But you make a fair point, and in the interest of fairness I shall grant you a "touche'".
No weirder than guys who think annoying someone else is fun. That to me is weird, but hey, anything that rocks your boat.
Psychology and human behavior should be mandatory teaching in schools starting from elementary. Didn't used to be needed because the basic insights into our behavior were passed down from one generation to another under the auspices of Wisdom; but not anymore it seems. Instead it's become a more taboo subject than sex. We're so scared of ourselves we get annoyed whenever we hear psychological insights, especially if it doesn't fit our pre-conceived notions. As it stands, rocket science is more advanced than the understanding of what lies in our cerebrum. And I don't expect you'll even remotely comprehend anything I say.
If Cryptic gave me A Son'a transporter drone and I could get to transport players to my brig for <enter amount of time> then it would be understandable...... but these things make your character dance, if your using a terminal they do not disrupt you and chances are you can hardly see it anyway, If you are just standing around then just move away if they bother you. Life is to short to worry or get butt-hurt about stuff like this.:P
It's not a whine, it's a concern voiced by the OP and shared by others because some players use the ability to deliberately harass a group or single player. I'm not against Disco balls, but I don't advocate their abuse either. Voicing concerns is an important function of the forums in case you haven't noticed.
I have to say.. they just don't bother me that much.
But hey.. to each his/her own.
I do HATE those balloon guns lol.
Your Javelin deals 125417 (89066) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Tholian Recluse. > lol
They are not being abused, they would be abused if they effected your game play in some sort of way or if they are being used in a place they are not supposed to be.... they currently have no location restrictions so.........
I am not a fan of them but they don't bother me, they only people I can see being annoyed are the ones buying nerve tonic for the dance, the devs can fix that by adding it to the emotes (could earn it from a small mission to do with being captured by the Orion's and sold in to slavery).
With all the Tribble/extinguisher/balloon guns and Cryo devices... this disco ball is nothing. The only thing that ever effected my game play was the balloon gun, I run all settings on full without any problems but if that gun if fired in 1 particular place (I will not share) it kills my FPS.
Actually in Ds9 it did exactly that when my character was trying to use the exchange/bank
Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
That way only the "fun" people will be experiencing these "fun" items.
Many people are here for the Star Trek.
That some people are here just for the griefing... er I mean MMO is just sad.
LOTRO had the same problem - festival emotes that took over other people's characters cosmetically. After numerous cycles of complaint, the devs finally gave up and implemented an opt-out.
It did take a couple of years though...
Ok, reply to your reply:
1> Ok, was unaware of that one, never have used a "nerve tonic" myself. But ok, maybe you need to throw a bug report at Cryptic, they may be able to add the "nerve tonic dance" as a higher priority interaction, than the disco ball's. So that would preserve the intended use of the disco balls not impairing anyone's interaction.
2> You don't want flashing lights? Why do you play this game then. And ground and space battle is going to have those as well. Are you going to ***** about those next? And my saying is hardly ironic. Life is full of seeing things we don't necessarily like, when around groups of other people. Don't want to see it? Too bad. As long as it's not going to far, ie, having to hear people having sex, or talking about it (as in ERP), or similar, it's still along the line's of, "Stop playing football around here, I'm trying to read!!!" whinyness. SO again, no sympathy for those. I have to constantly put up with bullcrap convo's in Zone chat. Guess what? No one's going to stop just because I don't like them. So suck it up, and if you hate them THAT much, find ye a seccluded area with the various terminals you need, and conduct your business there.
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
Actually, you're the reason ppl are ********. Sheesh, a little RP (non-offensive I might add) fun, and you feel compelled to ruin it for them? I hope you and your ilk get account banned for THAT bs.
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
1> We've requested that it be made an emote, an earned emote, even a C-Store emote, but so far, there remain only two ways to do it: obtain a Nerve Tonic (you buy it, someone gives it to you, you go make one in the mission, whatever) and use that item, or find a foundry mission with the dance and go to the specific location(s) where the foundry mission has set up an interactive node.
2> I was just being thorough in enumerating the effects of the item. :P
Hey, Mod person. Grrr. Our thread had a much cooler title.
Well, I, for one, am glad that you don't get to decide when and where people are allowed to have fun. Because, y'know, if you're not ingame to have fun, why the hell are you playing? Sure, your idea of fun may differ from someone else's, but that doesn't mean only YOUR fun should be allowed everywhere. Seriously. It's a disco ball that makes your character dance within a certain range, and as far as I know, pretty hard to spam. It doesn't mess with anything you're doing, unless you're using emotes. Even the tonic-dances being disturbed is rather shrug-worthy, since they're either rather cheap on the exchange, or you can be not-so-lazy and pick up as many as your boffs can carry in the space of twenty minutes or so.
It's kind of amusing though, that so many people get upset over these things. Party Poppers, that can be understood since people may not want to have to change their Debris settings just because someone wants to spam balloons, but the Amplifier simply adds a bit of music, light, and animates the characters nearby. It's about as strenuous on your computer as dancing in Club 47.
Oh, heck, if it would do that, I'd set mine to any number of 70's and 80's pop & rock songs, hehe!!
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
Still, the fact that it's overriding an interaction, I'd still advise you to throw in a bug report, as it's fully stated in the item's effects that it WILL NOT override a PC's interactions. Just my advice, maybe something will get done about it, and you can spend that amount on those things, and not have it ruined by someone popping a disco ball. (As I see it, this would classify as a bug)
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
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It breaks any emote you were doing. It prevents you from doing any emote other than combadge (which after it finishes, returns you to dancing). That's an issue. That's how it can affect/harass people that are doing something.
Game Breaking! Hotfix NAO!!!!!111!!!!
I'm sure you must be so proud.
At least they can't be used in combat anymore.
Had a bad experience with some in Kitomer ground Elite before the nerf.
No idea, but I was able to hear several activation FX in short succession, one right after the other.
Well, apparently not.
LOL
also i vote that the Dico Ball plays the Tune - Dance Commander by Electric Six, just for ironies sake, or even Improper Dancing , again for obvious reasons
I AM THE DANCE COMMANDER, AND I COMMAND YOU....... TO DANCE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P8frmCmkTE
After 20+ pages of numerous whinging and and Cries of Greifing my brain is about ready to pour out my ears in repsonse to the self interest shown here
IT'S OVER NINE THOUSSSSSSSSSAND!!!! !:eek:
That looks absolutely amazing. I know I'd be proud of creating such a thing.
Man, you must be trippin. All I'm seeing is an absolutely FABULOUS explosion of light and color.
No. That's not a grief tool.
THIS was a grief tool before February 2011, because it actually did close windows and disrupt players.