So... some people want the devs to turn the party amp into a non-consumable... yet don't want an opt-out switch made 'because it would waste dev time'.
Why did the devs even invent the stupid things. How is forcing me to dance remotely entertaining for me? I could be using my own chosen emote and that stupid thing overwrites it without me being able to take control back of my characters actions. Please, vote to have the things removed imho.
I do not in any way see how this fits into the Star Trek Universe. Add a feature to the club at ESD for stupid stuff but not in the exchange, fleet starbases, etc where the actions of one person controls the actions of everyone they wish to TRIBBLE with. That would be like a feature that prevented anyone from moving their ship in space due to one person using a warp jack in the box.
That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.
I agree. How dare Cryptic impliment anything remotly fun and entertaining. It's borderline criminal. Next it'll be party poppers ...
... Oh hell no.
all those balloons do prevent me from seeing the ESD floor correctly ..... how dare they enable that ?..... it's so non-canon seeing a balloon enterprise .....
ban party poppers instead, my immersion is interrupted when they bump into me !!!
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*Sigh* Dancing actions do not interfere with whatever you're doing. You can still DOff bank, send/receive mail, use the exchange, play dabo and/or chat with people. Just now with a party in the background.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
The threads complaining about disco balls are obscene.
There is a rather odd obsession between "roleplaying" and not being allowed to have fun, in a game. There's a simple solution; if you don't enjoy playing a game then you should take a break. It's good for you.
A group of people trying to roleplay who are then set upon by people who only want to disrupt them, is abuse; since the disco ball is automatic and there's no way to disable the animation except to move away, the bothersome players are able--with impunity--to infringe upon others' enjoyment. Sounds like harassment to me.
The simple solution is to provide a toggle when you're in range of the disco ball that forces you to accept the animation override.
Critical thinking. It's amazing the places it can take you.
perhaps they were RP'ing in a place people enjoy dancing.....who is wrong ?
tomato tamata ....
A relevant point here. There are "roleplayers" claiming that they own all public spaces in STO. If you want a controlled roleplaying zone start up your own instance, problem solved.
A relevant point here. There are "roleplayers" claiming that they own all public spaces in STO. If you want a controlled roleplaying zone start up your own instance, problem solved.
They can dance using the standard emotes if it's that imperative. It's a win-win in this case since they get to dance and the roleplayers can continue unhindered.
But that's not really what's behind the defense of the forced animation, is it? No, I suspect there are people who only desire to bother other players by subjecting them to something they cannot avoid without leaving the space. Y'know, since it's actually pretty benign to expect that my gameplay not be affected by the whims of other people.
But that's not really what's behind the defense of the forced animation, is it?
Stop making things up. I will defend fun at all costs. Those who are having fun do not want to be subjected to the whims of those trying to force depression onto the player base.
In my experience people run to the disco balls and not away from them. Try dropping one in an empty space in DS9 and see how many people run to it.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but for me, roleplay is when I interact with the environment in character. The environment includes other characters and the actions they take.
If somebody sits down next to me at Quarks and offers to buy me a drink, I roll with it. If some scantily-clad Orion lady starts dancing on the dabo table, hey, that's cool. And if somebody sets off a subspace party amp, I join the party.
If you're a roleplayer, you can either ignore others who aren't "playing" the way you want to (in which case you should probably not be RPing in a public instance) or you can engage in a changing environment.
And remember, other people RP in different ways from you. Maybe for some highly evolved alien cultures, pulling a disco ball out of subspace and causing you to dance against your will is their way of saying "hello."
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Roleplayers really need to stop asking for special treatment.
I find party poppers amusing. It's just a little bit of fun. People can abuse anything, really.
It's not special treatment. It's an expectation to be able to enjoy the game without being forced to do things we don't want to--an expectation, I take it, that everyone shares equally.
Stop making things up. I will defend fun at all costs. Those who are having fun do not want to be subjected to the whims of those trying to force depression onto the player base.
In my experience people run to the disco balls and not away from them. Try dropping one in an empty space in DS9 and see how many people run to it.
Tell me, what's the defense in the case where two people are roleplaying and suddenly someone arrives with their disco ball and intentionally decides to force it on them? This person obviously knows it will disrupt the others' play.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but for me, roleplay is when I interact with the environment in character. The environment includes other characters and the actions they take.
If somebody sits down next to me at Quarks and offers to buy me a drink, I roll with it. If some scantily-clad Orion lady starts dancing on the dabo table, hey, that's cool. And if somebody sets off a subspace party amp, I join the party.
If you're a roleplayer, you can either ignore others who aren't "playing" the way you want to (in which case you should probably not be RPing in a public instance) or you can engage in a changing environment.
And remember, other people RP in different ways from you. Maybe for some highly evolved alien cultures, pulling a disco ball out of subspace and causing you to dance against your will is their way of saying "hello."
Roleplayers, on the whole, take issue when others decide to act for their own character. It's called modding.
Tell me, what's the defense in the case where two people are roleplaying and suddenly someone arrives with their disco ball and intentionally decides to force it on them? This person obviously knows it will disrupt the others' play.
hypothetical arguments are just that....."hypothetical".
they can neither prove nor disprove a point .....they just "continue" an argument.
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You do know that every time G.Takei says that he's actually tolling Shatner ?
And he seems to say that a lot ... (without any relation to his sexual orientation) .
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I do not in any way see how this fits into the Star Trek Universe. Add a feature to the club at ESD for stupid stuff but not in the exchange, fleet starbases, etc where the actions of one person controls the actions of everyone they wish to TRIBBLE with. That would be like a feature that prevented anyone from moving their ship in space due to one person using a warp jack in the box.
It's stupid...
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I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
Apparently you missed the part where this can be abused.
pressing the "w" key is abuse ?
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... Oh hell no.
all those balloons do prevent me from seeing the ESD floor correctly ..... how dare they enable that ?..... it's so non-canon seeing a balloon enterprise .....
ban party poppers instead, my immersion is interrupted when they bump into me !!!
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---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
Great first post btw
Shut up and dance.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
There is a rather odd obsession between "roleplaying" and not being allowed to have fun, in a game. There's a simple solution; if you don't enjoy playing a game then you should take a break. It's good for you.
A group of people trying to roleplay who are then set upon by people who only want to disrupt them, is abuse; since the disco ball is automatic and there's no way to disable the animation except to move away, the bothersome players are able--with impunity--to infringe upon others' enjoyment. Sounds like harassment to me.
The simple solution is to provide a toggle when you're in range of the disco ball that forces you to accept the animation override.
Critical thinking. It's amazing the places it can take you.
Disco never dies.
tomato tamata ....
is that a discreet ad-hominem ? ...sneaky.... :rolleyes::cool:
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And in all group scenes as well !
And this scene could so use a parrot floating in the background ... .
I wonder why no one is dancing on their table ?
Who is wrong? The people that showed up last.
A relevant point here. There are "roleplayers" claiming that they own all public spaces in STO. If you want a controlled roleplaying zone start up your own instance, problem solved.
You showed up last.
They can dance using the standard emotes if it's that imperative. It's a win-win in this case since they get to dance and the roleplayers can continue unhindered.
But that's not really what's behind the defense of the forced animation, is it? No, I suspect there are people who only desire to bother other players by subjecting them to something they cannot avoid without leaving the space. Y'know, since it's actually pretty benign to expect that my gameplay not be affected by the whims of other people.
I find party poppers amusing. It's just a little bit of fun. People can abuse anything, really.
Stop making things up. I will defend fun at all costs. Those who are having fun do not want to be subjected to the whims of those trying to force depression onto the player base.
In my experience people run to the disco balls and not away from them. Try dropping one in an empty space in DS9 and see how many people run to it.
If somebody sits down next to me at Quarks and offers to buy me a drink, I roll with it. If some scantily-clad Orion lady starts dancing on the dabo table, hey, that's cool. And if somebody sets off a subspace party amp, I join the party.
If you're a roleplayer, you can either ignore others who aren't "playing" the way you want to (in which case you should probably not be RPing in a public instance) or you can engage in a changing environment.
And remember, other people RP in different ways from you. Maybe for some highly evolved alien cultures, pulling a disco ball out of subspace and causing you to dance against your will is their way of saying "hello."
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
It's not special treatment. It's an expectation to be able to enjoy the game without being forced to do things we don't want to--an expectation, I take it, that everyone shares equally.
Tell me, what's the defense in the case where two people are roleplaying and suddenly someone arrives with their disco ball and intentionally decides to force it on them? This person obviously knows it will disrupt the others' play.
Roleplayers, on the whole, take issue when others decide to act for their own character. It's called modding.
EDIT: Apologies for the triple-post!
hypothetical arguments are just that....."hypothetical".
they can neither prove nor disprove a point .....they just "continue" an argument.
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It's not just a hypothetical--it's happened. So there's no defense. Got ya.
You do know that every time G.Takei says that he's actually tolling Shatner ?
And he seems to say that a lot ... (without any relation to his sexual orientation) .