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Reports of "Sever not Responding" & Lag [UPDATE: Results of investigation, post #170]

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    tlorantloran Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I do not know what you peoples have done to the server.
    I can not stay connected. the patch starts to download, I get to 8% then get disconnected.
    fix it
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    undermostjasonundermostjason Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ok iam get really tired with wait for this path already it keep restarting it really annyed me alote now i been wait for this path when the sever want live fix this problem please iam tired of waiting now and i bit there alote more people have the problem
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    dukhatnaranekdukhatnaranek Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I can't get connected to the launcher. Tracert is fine, freaking beautiful honestly.

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
    2 6 ms 6 ms 7 ms **.**.**.**
    3 11 ms 6 ms 6 ms gig4-2-23.wnslme08-rtr001.ne.northeast.rr.com [2
    4.31.156.196]
    4 16 ms 21 ms 13 ms rdc-204-210-69-180.ne.northeast.rr.com [204.210.
    69.180]
    5 37 ms 42 ms 35 ms rdc-204-210-69-49.ne.northeast.rr.com [204.210.6
    9.49]
    6 31 ms 33 ms 37 ms ae-5-0.cr0.nyc30.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.74]
    7 32 ms 31 ms 38 ms 107.14.19.147
    8 30 ms 39 ms 30 ms te0-0-0-17.ccr21.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.5
    4.13.81]
    9 31 ms 31 ms 39 ms te0-3-0-5.ccr21.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
    .6.45]
    10 37 ms 38 ms 37 ms te0-2-0-6.ccr21.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
    .44.94]
    11 55 ms 38 ms 42 ms te4-4.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.42
    ]
    12 58 ms 37 ms 37 ms 38.111.40.114
    13 38 ms 37 ms 39 ms 208.95.185.41

    nettest not looking so hot though.

    Ping: 40.0 msec
    Port: 80: 1086 KB/sec 40 KB/sec 1304 KB/sec 500
    Port: 80: 1079 KB/sec 39 KB/sec 1194 KB/sec 500
    Port: 443: 995 KB/sec 38 KB/sec 1138 KB/sec 500
    Port: 443: 1135 KB/sec 36 KB/sec 1270 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7255: 1080 KB/sec 41 KB/sec 1205 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7255: 941 KB/sec 37 KB/sec 1141 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7003: 1147 KB/sec 43 KB/sec 1270 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7003: 1160 KB/sec 43 KB/sec 1288 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7202: 1080 KB/sec 39 KB/sec 1178 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7202: 1092 KB/sec 39 KB/sec 1197 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7499: 1064 KB/sec 42 KB/sec 1289 KB/sec 500
    Port: 7499: 1102 KB/sec 41 KB/sec 1248 KB/sec 500
    Port: 80: 1092 KB/sec 39 KB/sec 1193 KB/sec 500
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    sapyrothsapyroth Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    How in the hell do they manage to bring the game to an sort of stable point this last week and then utterly destroy it? I heard that many of the new work done for STO is sent out to Freelance teams/people if that is true .... What happened to the Cryptic Studios Team? Did they finally succumb to the painful death of incompitencialidis? I stand by my decisions. If I can't get the game working today that will be that I'm afraid. EvE does not have the same charm as STO but there I pay monthly and HAVE ACCESS TO EVERYTHING without having to pay more money and the game FRAKING works! :mad:
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    legetdumarlegetdumar Member Posts: 263
    edited June 2013
    Just got the Server Not Responding message, followed by getting booted, so I took the liberty of running another tracer test :

    C:\Windows\system32>tracert patchserver.crypticstudios.com

    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
    2 9 ms 10 ms 6 ms 10.139.176.1
    3 49 ms 48 ms 49 ms chcgildtgr00.bb.telus.com [154.11.11.30]
    4 59 ms 58 ms 58 ms 173.182.200.2
    5 59 ms 58 ms 58 ms be2005.ccr21.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.7
    3]
    6 82 ms 82 ms 73 ms te0-2-0-2.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
    .45.250]
    7 74 ms 74 ms 73 ms te4-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.25
    4]
    8 76 ms 74 ms 85 ms 38.111.40.114
    9 1148 ms 285 ms 756 ms 208.95.185.41

    Trace complete.

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?! Seriously?!
    :eek:
    Criticism, while never agreeable, is necessary. It is like pain in the body. It brings attention to an unhealthy state of things---Winston Churchill
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    wozronnwozronn Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    It looks a lot like Cogentco has to answer some questions, most of the people that bothered to post a traceroute in the last few pages have gone across the Cogentco network.

    For those that have not posted a traceroute, go get WFTrace and in the command line put patchserver.crypticstudios.com, then click the 'copy as text' button and post results here. Once you're done you can do the same thing to us1.proxy.crypticstudios.com.

    My gut tells me that there is some kind of issue with a bad node with Cogentco that is affecting many customers passing over their network.

    If everyone posts a WFTrace and it makes it clear that the Cogentco network is at fault, we might be able to aggregate the trace results and lodge an issue.
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    horkathanehorkathane Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Time to go back to non internet pc Gaming. Battlefield Bad Company 2, until this gets sorted out. Been patching the launcher for over 3 hours this is nuts. :mad:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    legetdumarlegetdumar Member Posts: 263
    edited June 2013
    wozronn wrote: »
    It looks a lot like Cogentco has to answer some questions, most of the people that bothered to post a traceroute in the last few pages have gone across the Cogentco network.

    For those that have not posted a traceroute, go get WFTrace and in the command line put patchserver.crypticstudios.com, then click the 'copy as text' button and post results here. Once you're done you can do the same thing to us1.proxy.crypticstudios.com.

    My gut tells me that there is some kind of issue with a bad node with Cogentco that is affecting many customers passing over their network.

    If everyone posts a WFTrace and it makes it clear that the Cogentco network is at fault, we might be able to aggregate the trace results and lodge an issue.

    If it'll help get to the bottom of this....

    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
    Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    C:\Users\Gene>tracert us1.proxy.crypticstudios.com

    Tracing route to us1.proxy.crypticstudios.com [208.95.184.152]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
    2 19 ms 10 ms 16 ms 10.139.176.1
    3 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms chcgildtgr00.bb.telus.com [154.11.11.30]
    4 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms 173.182.200.2
    5 50 ms 49 ms 49 ms be2004.mpd22.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.
    9]
    6 73 ms 73 ms 65 ms te0-7-0-26.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.5
    4.43.190]
    7 267 ms 206 ms 211 ms te4-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.25
    4]

    8 70 ms 70 ms 71 ms 38.111.40.114
    9 73 ms 74 ms 74 ms us1.proxy.crypticstudios.com [208.95.184.152]

    Trace complete.

    Hmmm...interesting....
    Criticism, while never agreeable, is necessary. It is like pain in the body. It brings attention to an unhealthy state of things---Winston Churchill
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    sardiajaxsardiajax Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    andddddd here we go again

    you know, i have alot of patience. but its quickly running out.

    fix your ****ing infrastructure
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    requiemfangrequiemfang Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You know... I got to the point where I subbed myself 2 weeks ago and then this bloody mess happens and it keeps happening and I've gotten to the point where my patience is growing thin. Cryptic never had these problems when Atari owned the game even on my wireless connection I was able to stay on constantly, I come back after a year and a half to this cluster f&*#. I am disappointed by the constant server issues and the unreliability of the games server staff... they SUCK ROYALLY!

    I've since canceled my sub seeing how it isn't worth two cents of my money, you heard I was subbed for 2 weeks and I dropped it because of this BS.
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    simonpgrubersimonpgruber Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I just ran a tracrt and it has cogentco all over it, but it goes past it and on the last hop which is the STO servers, it fails. I notice that the server status on the launcher is red. I assume that red means it is up? I just can not log in. everything else works. I even got the patch just fine.

    Time to clean houose and fire some people. Usually makes the rest get busy and do thier jobs rightish.
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    galacticalphagalacticalpha Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yep, the janitor tripped over the cord.....oh dear
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    simonpgrubersimonpgruber Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I was going to spend money and get the lifetime at discount, but with all the TRIBBLE ups I am glad I didn't waste my money. I propose a new name for cryptic. how about 3 stooges networking?
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    simonpgrubersimonpgruber Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Doesn't loook like they will have this running anytime soon. Guess I will go watch some internet TRIBBLE, at least that is always working reliably, maybe they should hire some of those guys. We would have reliable service at least.
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    dinos2012dinos2012 Member Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Doesn't loook like they will have this running anytime soon. Guess I will go watch some internet TRIBBLE, at least that is always working reliably, maybe they should hire some of those guys. We would have reliable service at least.

    hehehee but guess what..... as far as how funny that mite sound...it's soooooo true lol:D:D
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    orvidororvidor Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    dezstravus wrote: »
    Hey Everyone,

    We have investigated this issue and it appears that some players are encountering an issue with a routing provider (Savvis) that exists between their ISP and our servers. We recommend waiting some time to see if the issue is resolved on their end, or alternatively, contacting your ISP to report the issue.

    We will continue to monitor for additional issues and will investigate accordingly if new information is discovered. Thank you for letting us know about this!

    Umm, hi forum dude ..

    After doing a few traceroutes, I'm not going through Savis .. I guess the majority of major ISP's must be having problems tonight .. Odd that it would all happen at once .. I'm curious as to why only your game is affected .. Maybe you should stop uploading patches, they tend to crash ISP's .. When your hot, your hot .. Never mind, I'm just being paranoid ..

    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
    Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    HELP [command]

    command - displays help information on that command.

    Tracing route to 208.95.185.41 over a maximum of 30 hops

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 44.40.1.1
    2 * * * Request timed out.
    3 10 ms 11 ms 11 ms ********
    4 18 ms 11 ms 11 ms ********
    5 39 ms 26 ms 25 ms 64.71.241.114
    6 27 ms 203 ms 214 ms te1-5.ccr01.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.12.89]
    7 25 ms 27 ms 25 ms te0-1-0-6.ccr21.iad02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.31.225]
    8 26 ms 27 ms 28 ms te0-2-0-4.ccr21.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.1.77]
    9 33 ms 35 ms 35 ms te0-0-0-20.ccr21.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.42.22]
    10 30 ms 35 ms 29 ms te0-3-0-6.ccr21.ymq02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.21]
    11 39 ms 37 ms 39 ms te0-1-0-7.ccr21.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.85]
    12 79 ms 210 ms 211 ms te4-4.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.42]
    13 57 ms 53 ms 53 ms 38.111.40.114
    14 44 ms 43 ms 43 ms 208.95.185.41

    Trace complete.

    Tic, toc, tic toc little forums dude's ..

    UPDATE: They either fixed it or it working because I changed my DNS lookup to yahoo .. Not sure, don't care .. It's working ..
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    jackharris09jackharris09 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yep, the janitor tripped over the cord.....oh dear

    I agree with you, he was dusting the server, itself, off. He must have used to much lemon pledge.
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    ragestroke008ragestroke008 Member Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Didn't they upgrade their servers a while back to prevent this kinda thing from happening?

    No updates from their Facebook account, anything elsewhere?
    Time is a funny thing; There is always too much of it. Except when you need it the most, then there is never enough.
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    gullshadowgullshadow Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    So 8 hour's later after the server crashed, and it still doesn't work.
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    ccarmichael07ccarmichael07 Member Posts: 755 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Anyone else having issues today?

    Been disconnected 3 times today.

    I attempt to warp to a planet, I fly right past it.

    I attempt to drop out of warp, but I keep going at maximum warp.

    Doors won't open for me.

    I go to full impulse, and fly right into a planet.

    Please tell me I'm not the only one getting this today!


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    I'm thinking maybe pancakes." ~ John Casey
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    tacadmiral602tacadmiral602 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I'm having the same problems.
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    john53ajohn53a Member Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I always have this problem even after their server stability fix or whatever you want to call it. They honestly need to rethink what they do with this game....its just getting worse. They "fix" one thing then 2 things TRIBBLE up etc.
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    fedasv2fedasv2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I've had this going on for a week now. no response from their support. Is it still called support when none is given, lets call it the 'tell us whats wrong so we can ignore you' ticketing system.

    Been playing for years, no issues. now 'Disconnected for unknown reason'. I get to select my character and click play but then Disconnected. Getting to player screen takes a good minute or so though. again, never used to. Would like to get an acknowledgement that this is a known issue that they are trying to resolve or do I abandon my LTS and find a new game?
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    mreeves7amreeves7a Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Well, up to a week and a half now of the mysterious disconnects. I am still getting the Server Not Responding that lasts for 18-20 seconds, then Disconnects. I do not have lag, I just have sudden SNR, then DC with no warning. I have contacted my ISP (CenturyLink) and has told that the disconnection problem is on Cryptic's end, yet post #170 here says that the problem is Savvis (CenturyLink owned). I am bein given the runaround and am becoming somewhat frustrated.

    I'd like any advice on further troubleshooting this if anyone can give if. Otherwise, how can I manage how my computer connects to Cryptic to avoid Savvis servers?
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    seraphimghostseraphimghost Member Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I don't get disconnected often as some, although it happens; three, four times a week. But I do get server not responding quite often during my 2hrs play time, usually at night, and my lag is so bad that it got to the point where I can't play any PVE map, because I am useless.
    My FPS drop as little as 3/s and it continues for several second, in which I am already destroyed. And those FPS doesn't have to do anything with my hardware, I tried lowering video setting to the lowest possible, with half resolution, just to be sure. ( I don't have graphical problems, but the lag became so unbearable I thought that maybe something is wrong my my hardware- it's not).

    So now I can only play, at some degree, PVE content aside from PVE queues. Even travel through sector space is lagging, which has never happened before.
    And one more thing, maybe it's relevant; my sound flickers when those lags happen. Not all the time, but just the same, too often do I hear crackling sound, like the sound that I hear is not constant but rather its lagging, if that's the right term. And, in PVE queue maps, my sound is messed up; I don't hear me firing, then I hear some random explosions and beam weapon fire, than just a little bit of my cannons firing.. Its wrong.

    Hope this helps.
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    sabouma1979sabouma1979 Member Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    As I posted somewhere else on this forum: the amount of disconnects is insane... Stability, my *** :mad:
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    ratzapratzap Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I got no time yesterday as I couldn't log in. Today I got maybe 50 minutes by jiggling the proxy settings around till it died again just now. No matter what launcher settings, login server is dead from here.

    The longer this goes on, the less I bother trying to get back in. I'm certainly not going near NWO when their infrastructure is so poor. Maybe they decided it's just cheaper to let the people who can't stay connected wander off than to fix the capacity problems.
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    planetearth2371planetearth2371 Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    they will never fix the problem now. it is all about money to them so I play free, I am getting a new internet band on thursday. so nothing will change with the game. they should take the game offline for a week, so they can get better severs that's the only way this can be fixed:mad:
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    anitaxexecutioneranitaxexecutioner Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yep, both me and my SO are having this issue. We have great net but BF uses the gaming rig and I use the laptop, both are having the same issue, he gave up and I am trying to connect still >.<
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    protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    It's hideous today. Had to log in 3 times just to get in. Once in, kept getting Server not responding in the midst of an Azure Nebula Rescue (fortunately, I didn't die till it was almost over, but I came close a couple of times before that). Then I got DCed and had to log in at least 5 times before I managed to get back in.
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