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Poll: Should the Galaxy-X be added to the C-store?

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In a previous poll the vast majority of voters said the Galaxy-X should not remain exclusive to the referral program and should be made available though some others means. As a follow up question:

Should the Galaxy-X be added to the C-store?

After you vote, feel free to share your thoughts :D
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Yes.... just to see the look on people's faces. You know, that look like dogs make when they tilt their heads at you and are probably thinking, "WTF"... :P
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I woudln't object myself. It's not something I'd drive, mind you, but considering how many people are asking for the NX, Excelsior, and Nebula, I wouldn't be surprised to see the fug... I mean, unique design in game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I am not a cruiser guy myself, but hey why not?

    Its good to set it up as a referral bonus for a certain period, but eventually there comes a point of diminishing returns (the point at which all or most of the very few people who can/will get 5 referrals or buy 5 copies have done so.) where they can make more by offering it in the C-Store.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I am not a cruiser guy myself, but hey why not?

    Its good to set it up as a referral bonus for a certain period, but eventually there comes a point of diminishing returns (the point at which all or most of the very few people who can/will get 5 referrals or buy 5 copies have done so.) where they can make more by offering it in the C-Store.

    Its not just about diminishing returns either. As a Dev recently said:
    StormShade wrote: »
    If any of those items ever do make it to the C-store, then you would still be able to earn them for free, rather than paying real money for them, using the referral program.

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=2758064#post2758064

    So even if the Gal-X is added, the referral program is still an option for people who dont want to have to pay.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    And who says Cryptic doesn't have business smarts? :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I've been told repeatededly this last week or so that putting the items we worked so hard to get on the C-Store would be great for the game, and bring in new players. So adding in referral items as well can only improve on that idea, and we should all be happy for the opportunity!

    So I'm all for it. Put everything in the C-Store. But in the spirit of fairness and equality, the referral players should get to enjoy the Galaxy for the same length of time I got to enjoy the Mirror Universe uniforms. That being a month. Fair is fair, after all. ;)

    And a little more seriously, many players brought in their friends well before the RAF program. They did so purely to bring more people to the game and not for the goodies they'd get for it. So they should have a method to get their hands on the Referral items too.

    The RAF people still benefit, since they not only get the ship completely for free, but they get 400 free C-points per referral. Points that dont have to be spent on the Galaxy or Holo-BO.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    no, it should be removed from the game alltogether
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    im sorry but NO. what did cryptic say about not ading things that would affect game play ? adding the gx to the c store is a game changing element, so sorry cryptic if you do you lie about even more things. Putting the borg bo was pushing the envelope a lil bit.

    I dont mind it being added some way. Either accolades, or vet reward. but c store, come on. Honestly guys stop encourging this bull TRIBBLE. Im tired of all you lil wino's. Like the kids crying to mommy and daddy that the neigbor kid got a new bike.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    danfiveten wrote: »
    im sorry but NO. what did cryptic say about not ading things that would affect game play ? adding the gx to the c store is a game changing element, so sorry cryptic if you do you lie about even more things. Putting the borg bo was pushing the envelope a lil bit.

    As you mentioned the Borg BO is there already.

    Plus, whats to prevent them putting a 'ship costume' version in that includes none of the different functionalities the referral one has?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    ^ that i have no issue with, just a cotume would be fine with me without the cloak and cannon. That would be cool so people could at least have the skin.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Something that strikes me as interesting is this idea of the Federation having a cloak-able ship.

    Now that they have one, I feel its only a matter of time before more become available in some way shape or form.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Well, if it's true that it would still be available to people who referred friends, I think it putting it in would be a smart move.

    If it's no longer tied to the refer-a-friend program, then I hope that Cryptic would wait a while before making it available.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Thing is i would like to see it remain the only ship that can cloak on fed side EVER because then it will remain to a limited amount and not very game changing. Feds should not have any other kind of cloak.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Yes it should be added.
    Then a patch should come out with countermeasures against it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    This is a job for yet another long stream of cliches.

    When in Rome... The genie's out of the bottle. The damage to my trust is done. I say all exclusives should now be on the C-Store. In the end it's only fair. So where's my Red Matter Capacitor, and Liberated Borg?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I voted yes, but the more i think about it, the more i say no. The reason is that the ship has unique abilities, which are (not debatable) game effecting. I don't have 5 friends to refer. I have 2 that i've refered that started and bought lifetimes when the game began. Now I'm SOL, but thats fine. its better that cryptic sticks to what they said ("No game effecting items in the C-Store") then to make me happy. Because integrity is worth more in my book.

    All i'm seeing from ryptic atm is that they'll just roll over for the whiners. I'm not impressed with their conduct and will seriously debate whether or not to throw any more money at this game. The C-store is a joke. i thought it would be interesting, but its not. They said many of the items would be able to be found in-game for free, and they aren't.

    Maybe Nagus's next poll should be, "Should the C-Store be removed'. Maybe I'll start it myself when i get a chance, and some sleep.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I figure this debate will go back and forth and back and forth. So here is my lot.

    When this item was first announced there was an outpouring of grief. It should have been on the c-store at the beginning. Yes, using it for the RAF was a smart move on Cryptic's part but now I think it is time it goes on the c-store.

    I personally think is should be a part of season 2 and here is why. Season 2 is a make it or break it for some players and anything that stacks the game for the make it part helps the game overall. While it might be beneficial to get 5 players to sub for a month but it would be better to have 10 subs stay. (Not that anyone will quit just because they don't get the Gal X but it might smooth out some of the rough edges).

    As far as the Gal X being a problem to be honest, after the fad wore off you wouldn't see it any more than any other ship type. Plus there are new ship types coming so once the Gal X stops being the flavor of the month it will be back to normal. So in essence we would have a week or so with a fleet of Gal X and Fed cloaking and decloaking in pvp. Well to be honest, they would suddenly find out that the cloak isn't all that and probably would go back to what they were playing in the first place.

    If Cryptic decides they aren't going to put it on the c-store by Season 2 I think the best thing they can do is to say something along the lines of "You won't see the Gal X on the c-store for X number of months.) One it will stop a lot of the threads asking about it and two it will give people a reason to continue to invest in the RAF. Otherwise people will hold off just waiting for it to be on the c-store and not investing in the RAF thereby defeating the purpose of this carrot on a stick.

    Overall, I would say Cryptic needs to look at Season 2 as more than a content update and more of a way to general some needed goodwill. No matter what side of the fence you (general) have been on in all the issues I think there can be no doubt that good will would do Cryptic and STO and the community some good. It isn't about so much of Cryptic using the Gal X to throw us a bone but more that they could use the effort they used to make it into helping the game as a whole. They said they wanted to take the middle ground and help out the game and folks who asked for the other stuff well this is the big puppy.

    More people would care, I imagine about the Gal X then the Red Matter Cap or some turret or what have you.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    yes it should be but i would wait a long time to do it.

    personally though i think a long term veteran reward would be a more ideal solution, like after a couple of years.
    or to get complicated a veteran reward that unlocks the c-store item after 2 years.

    if people have for their own reasons decided to buy 5 copies and spend all that money they still get the ship for a couple of years before anybody else.

    and the people that referred friends will have gotten the ship for free, as the program was intended.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Absolutely not there should be some things that not everyone who cries about it can get otherwise why bother with referals at all
    It looks like nagus is living up to his name look how many polls he's started about getting things in the cstore not an attack just an observation
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    dojen wrote:
    Absolutely not there should be some things that not everyone who cries about it can get

    Yeah, that's what the rewards for STF's or other ingame-achievements should be for.
    dojen wrote:
    otherwise why bother with referals at all

    To have it now? To get it for free instead of paying 10 $ (assuming it will cost as much as the TOS Constitution)? Because you get 400 C-Store points (=5 $) for each referral? Because you want people getting interested in STO?

    It's baffling how many people think that the icing is the whole cake.....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I voted yes but i think they should wait some month before releasing it in C store,
    I want that ship badly but i can wait some time out of respect for the people who worked hard to get it.
    I would pay 2000 c points easy for that ship in C store, but hey that's just me.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    dojen wrote:
    Absolutely not there should be some things that not everyone who cries about it can get otherwise why bother with referals at all
    It looks like nagus is living up to his name look how many polls he's started about getting things in the cstore not an attack just an observation

    I agree no they should not and thats a good point I highly doubt he does it for the good of the community it's more likely out of greed but hey at least he's honest about it with a name like that what did you expect? :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Since game release there has been more unique loot added to Referal Programs and C-store purchases than to the actual game itself for playing the game.

    What do we have currently for loot in the game? Mk X purple gear from vendors and....tribbles? I'm trying to think here guys but I honestly cannot come up with anything post-launch that you can loot through this new content added that is even close to being as unique as ship designs or a Galaxy-X.

    It feel like you have to meta-game the game itself to get anything that makes you go "OH COOL" than anything in the game does atm.

    For that reason I am voting no, it shouldn't go to C-store. Lets focus on having some unique loot added to this NEW content that keeps getting added to the game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    it should be available from the c-store. if not it then they need something like the defiant with cloak or something. something to replace it but something like it should at least be made available if not itself.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I'm sure it will at some point... everything else does!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I'm sure it will at some point... everything else does!

    Not everything - as witnessed by the [current] lack of liberated borg and red matter capacitor in the cstore, this would appear to be an indication of Cryptics desire to not put everything in the cstore.

    I say put it on there but given that a tier 1 ship was on there for 800 points how about putting it on for 8000 - lets see how many people REALLY want it then :eek: as lets face it the ship like many of the cstore items simply is not that good.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    dojen wrote:
    Absolutely not there should be some things that not everyone who cries about it can get otherwise why bother with referals at all
    StormShade wrote: »
    Sure there is. Do you enjoy playing Star Trek Online? Would you enjoy playing it with your friends? Then consider referring them.

    If you do, the real real reward is not some in-game bonus item that we offer you. It's the time you get to spend sharing your hobby with your friend. That's why you should use the referral program, not because you want some in-game perk, but because you want to spend more time with your friend.

    If any of those items ever do make it to the C-store, then you would still be able to earn them for free, rather than paying real money for them, using the referral program.

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=2758064#post2758064

    dojen wrote:
    It looks like nagus is living up to his name look how many polls he's started about getting things in the cstore not an attack just an observation

    Thanks for the compliment :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Its like the welfare system why work for something when you can take the easy way out. Too many people always want the easy way if you want something you work for it asking cryptic at every turn to change its mind is unreasonable. Of course the poll will show that more people want it in the cstore than do its the have nots outnumbering the haves Please for the love of god cryptic please don't add this to the cstore some things need to remain exclusive
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    panthro wrote: »
    Its like the welfare system why work for something when you can take the easy way out.

    If it werent for the fact that the welfare system is a free service, while you have to PAY for the items in the C-store, that analogy might make sense. However, for the reason just stated, it doesnt. Sorry, please try again.
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