PLEASE HELP!! Not sure what I'm doing wrong but I've wasted the entire 3day holiday weekend trying to get this to work!
After I install STO with your beta/wrapper, the STO app does not launch, it brings up the Wineskin menu again - so I choose the STO.exe. I can get to the launcher screen, and the patch begins to download but, after choosing default resolution, then I receive the error "Couldn't create D3D device." after it goes to an all white full screen. I've made a small screencast movie (10mb) to show you what's happening: https://www.yousendit.com/download/RmNEZXQzQzM3N0IzZUE9PQ
I have downloaded your Beta4 wrapper twice and the legal torrent (from the game page) twice since I assumed I did something wrong the first time. I purchased the Syfy bundle and just used the key provided.
I've also tried the "UseGLSL"="disabled"/"enabled" trick mentioned with no luck. I have also done the "verify" files - even though I skipped over it in the screencast.
I had no errors during the install and followed your PDF instructions to the letter - so what what am I doing wrong???
17" MacBookPro 2.33
10.6.2
ATI Radeon X1600
3GB RAM
PLEASE HELP!! Not sure what I'm doing wrong but I've wasted the entire 3day holiday weekend trying to get this to work!
ok.. here is what I noticed.
I cannot tell where your Cryptic Studios folder is at in the video. It is supposed to be inside of "Star Trek Online.app" inside its Program Files folder... not anywhere else on your hard drive.
Right click the Star Trek Online.app and select "Show Package Contents" to see inside of it... there you will see a folder that STO will think is a C: drive (called drive_c) and it has a Program Files folder in there.
If it is there, when you try to run the game, it will not have the errors about the EXE not being found, and actually run the game.
You need to get ti running without the EXE not found error.
You are trying to run the game through the game installer, which will not work. Its running in a rootless windowed mode with no virtual desktops, so STO cannot handle it and will error and crash like you see.
You need to put the Cryptic Studios folder inside int he right place, then run the app like normal... by default if you haven't changed Screen Options will will blacken out the whole screen and just show the log in and patcher on its own whole full screen. The game should then function ok... and you can run it in a window mode according to the directions as well.... but running the game through the Installer will not work no matter how you do it.... that is only useful for installing the game from a setup.exe.
its possible different versions install differently now.. but the normal setup for STO for me always wanted to put it in that location.... so thats where I made it look for it at.
Thanks for the quick reply, Doh123. Makes sense. Put the entire Cryptic Studios folder within the C drive Program Files - but now it creates yet another Cryptic Studios folder within the same folder that the STO app is at, also called Cryptic Studios and it now wants to patch the full 10GB!! It took a full 20 hours to patch the full thing yesterday and, as I said in the first cry for help, I did a new install this morning and already patched it.
Do I really have to waste another day waiting for it to patch?????
I'll post another screencast to show you what's going on and what I did.
Thanks for the quick reply, Doh123. Makes sense. Put the entire Cryptic Studios folder within the C drive Program Files - but now it creates yet another Cryptic Studios folder within the same folder that the STO app is at, also called Cryptic Studios and it now wants to patch the full 10GB!! It took a full 20 hours to patch the full thing yesterday and, as I said in the first cry for help, I did a new install this morning and already patched it.
Do I really have to waste another day waiting for it to patch?????
I'll post another screencast to show you what's going on and what I did.
if its all in the right spot, it shouldn't need to patch anymore.... unless your version was already old, but it shouldn't have to patch that much.
Inside of Star Trek Online.app... it should look like this picture.
The piggs i have highlighted last are the main bulk of size (8.4gb) and if its not seeing those int he right spot its going to try to download them all over again.
Maybe I can start from scratch again and you can walk me through the specific install process to get the Cryptic Studios folder INSIDE the STO app?
I'm not a novice, really! but this is my first experience with Wineskin.
Thanks again.
what source are you installing from? I'm guessing you aren't running a setup.exe for it... are you copying it over from a Windows install?
if you just set it up from disc (or download) running the setup.exe, do NOT change the install location. It will by default install to exactly the right spot and work.... "C:\Program Files\Cryptic Studios" should be default and work.
most everyone is new to Wineskin, since i only started making it a few months back :-P
I have a Nalhalem Quad Core Mac Pro with the ATI card (pretty high spec) running OSX 10.5.8 . The wrapper runs perfectly (copied from my original windoze version) except for the graphics quality which is generally very bad.
When i mean bad, I mean its simply isnt pretty. Its basically using the lowest graphical settings available, its playable and everything else works just fine. Its just the quality that gets me.
Is everyone experiencing this? Or just me? I mean i know its to be expected, but I justed to give my input
Thank you soo much for the wrapper, its fantastic!
I have a Nalhalem Quad Core Mac Pro with the ATI card (pretty high spec) running OSX 10.5.8 . The wrapper runs perfectly (copied from my original windoze version) except for the graphics quality which is generally very bad.
When i mean bad, I mean its simply isnt pretty. Its basically using the lowest graphical settings available, its playable and everything else works just fine. Its just the quality that gets me.
Is everyone experiencing this? Or just me? I mean i know its to be expected, but I justed to give my input
Thank you soo much for the wrapper, its fantastic!
Chris
U.S.S. Papa
maybe check your graphics settings? There are a few options, mainly AA, which don't work, but my graphics look very close to the same as they do running natively in Windows.... make sure your "half resolution" isn't turned on either.... mine is running good at far above lowest possible graphic settings.
doh123: No problems just a question about the implementation on the Mac:
Is there a setting that allows the app-switcher function to be utilized (Apple-Tab)? Right now, you have to quit in order to use OS X apps. Or is that just a function of windowing? Can I make it so that STO doesn't make a blackout screen of everything (meaning, leaving OS X menubar exposed)?
Also, the menus at top of the launcher (ACCOUNT FORUMS etc. other than OPTIONS) don't work? Is that a limitation of Wineskin or because we don't run IE anymore?
Just to reinterate, this unofficial method works very well (once I understood it!) and can't imagine any company needing to spend countless $$$ and development time in the future porting a Win game over to Mac!
now, I just need to find some easy tips/hints/tricks to bulk up my ship... I'm getting pummeled in space on my first mission out of space dock out of the Sol system!
It works fine for me on new MacBookPro OS 10.6.2, 4Gb RAM, 2.53 GHz speed. Only place that I found my graphics slows down is SolarWind PvP zone. Also there was something funny about switching between Window/Fullscreen, sometimes it crashes game and sometimes crashes Wineskin.
By any account, you done awesome job, i can note down steps to reproduce if anyone care to look into fixing it.
If there is a way to switch between Wineskin and MacOS it would be awesome cause it seems all of us doing our research on internet
Just popping in to say that Star Trek Online works on my four year old iMac. It's running version 10.5.8 of the OS, a 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, ATI Radeon X1600 graphics card and 1 GB of memory. It runs pretty smooth (with the exception of a battle occurring in a nebula) but even at the highest settings it will allow me, it definitely doesn't look as good as some of the screenshots I've seen. The starships don't even emit ANY lights for me. If light is being shone on one side of the ship, the other side will be completely black with no lights whatsoever. I'm not sure if it can be fixed or not, but I'm not too worried about it right now. It's a fun game so I'll probably be playing for quite a while, in which time I'm sure to get a new computer.
I just wanted to say how much I appreciate this program. I've been bummed for quite a while that I couldn't play because I don't have a Windows PC. But when I heard how much fun the game was from people, I considered buying Windows 7 and using Bootcamp to play the game, but with your program I only had to pay for the game and the subscription. So thanks, as well, for letting me take it easy on my wallet.
maybe check your graphics settings? There are a few options, mainly AA, which don't work, but my graphics look very close to the same as they do running natively in Windows.... make sure your "half resolution" isn't turned on either.... mine is running good at far above lowest possible graphic settings.
I am aware of the AA not working.
I basically get an error message that my graphics card isnt supported and that I should run the lower settings or the same settings. Both give me the same result. I am unable to select any higher quality setting via the setting menu in game.
I will post some screen shots tonight to better explain. Maybe that will clear things up.
Still I am happy that I have at least something on OSX to quickly jump in for a quick round.
Chris
P.S.
My graphics problems sound similar to kjb0812's above...
Just noting some testing results on my iMac (3.06 C2D w/8800 GS). Note that everything is running in space, only the spacedock type environments don't play nice. Using the beta 4, with a fresh copy of STO copied over from Bootcamp.
(at this point, video quality are at high settings. My character is at Earth Spacedock)
- Set UseGLSL to "enabled"
- Run STO
-> Logs in fine, then gets to the third loading screen (past the Cryptic and Atari logos, to the Starfleet logo with 'Loading' underneath). Crashes at this point.
==
- Set UseGLSL to "disabled" (video still at high settings)
- Run STO
-> Logs in fine, loads fine to character selection. Character selects, and the Earth Spacedock loading screen is displayed. Loading bar goes most (all?) of the way over, then STO crashes.
==
- Set all video quality details to lowest possible settings.
- Run STO
-> Same as above. Character selects, Earth Spacedock loading screen displays. Load bar goes across, then crash.
==
- Set UseGLSL back to "enabled" (video quality remains at lowest possible settings)
- Run STO
-> Eureka! Loads, character selects, and spacedock loads!
(note at this point: I have been expose-ing back to safari to type this. When I switched back to STO, it had crashed. The next test will be to see how long STO stays running for without switching back and forth).
==
No good - 2 attempts to load and stay in-game result in quick crashes. The first attempt crashed on the spacedock loading screen; the second attempt crashed immediately after spacedock loaded.
==
Next test - into the Troubleshooting section of the Video config settings. Everything in there gets turned off, and the framerate is limited to 30fps.
- Run STO
-> No good. Loading Spacedock, then crash on the loading screen.
Hopefully this stuff helps someone! Beyond the occasional glimpse of Spacedock, I haven't been able to make a lot of progress
I am aware of the AA not working.
I basically get an error message that my graphics card isnt supported and that I should run the lower settings or the same settings. Both give me the same result. I am unable to select any higher quality setting via the setting menu in game.
I will post some screen shots tonight to better explain. Maybe that will clear things up.
Still I am happy that I have at least something on OSX to quickly jump in for a quick round.
Chris
P.S.
My graphics problems sound similar to kjb0812's above...
I've got the same issue than him
AN error message saying my graphic card is unsupported. and then having bad graphics.
On Windows, I have the same error message but the graphics are better.
My graphic card is an ATI Radeon 4850 HD, by the way it may be linked with the fact that ATI did not get any driver out for Mac since 2007...could it be?
doh123: No problems just a question about the implementation on the Mac:
Is there a setting that allows the app-switcher function to be utilized (Apple-Tab)? Right now, you have to quit in order to use OS X apps. Or is that just a function of windowing? Can I make it so that STO doesn't make a blackout screen of everything (meaning, leaving OS X menubar exposed)?
Also, the menus at top of the launcher (ACCOUNT FORUMS etc. other than OPTIONS) don't work? Is that a limitation of Wineskin or because we don't run IE anymore?
Just to reinterate, this unofficial method works very well (once I understood it!) and can't imagine any company needing to spend countless $$$ and development time in the future porting a Win game over to Mac!
now, I just need to find some easy tips/hints/tricks to bulk up my ship... I'm getting pummeled in space on my first mission out of space dock out of the Sol system!
Stay Rad!
Dr. Theopolis
Doc, I love the name, be-be-be, but I think you need to slow down and read doh123's directions.pdf file that came with the wrapper if you want to run with STO as a regular apple+tab app, i.e. wineskin in windowed mode:
How to run in a window
Xquartz doesn't support fullscreen and windowing mode switches... if you would like to
run in a window, you need to change options in WineskinSettings.app, under screen
options.
Change it to Windowed instead of Fullscreen, and select the desired resolution of the
virtual desktop window that STO will be running inside of.
Always leave STO set to run in fullscreen and let Wineskin handle the windowing for
best results. STO can and will resize this virtual desktop via the in game resolution
settings. If you set STO to run in a window, and Wineskin to run fullscreen, youʼll just
end up with a window of STO on a black fullscreen background.
If you want to leave STO in full screen but still get to your other apps without quitting, try her directions from her original post at the top of the thread:
How do I multitask in fullscreen?
You can hide STO with the normal Hide shortcut while its running... CMD+H and get back to your desktop.
Be warned though that if you had STO running at a different resolution than the one you normally run, you'll still be in that resolution.
Is there a setting that allows the app-switcher function to be utilized (Apple-Tab)?
Also, the menus at top of the launcher (ACCOUNT FORUMS etc. other than OPTIONS) don't work? Is that a limitation of Wineskin or because we don't run IE anymore?
Itried switching Hide to CMD+Tab in Xquartz and it had issues with the game keys. Leaving it on CMD+H worked ok... its the default Hide command for all OSX apps. It will hide STO so you can use your computer, then you can click on the STO icon in the dock (the running one not the launcher) to get back to the game.
I have a testing version I'm working on right now with some Wineskin changes I'm making, that have a single Icon, no separate launcher Icon and running Icon. But you wouldn't really notice that unless you tried making an entry on your dock for the game.
It works fine for me on new MacBookPro OS 10.6.2, 4Gb RAM, 2.53 GHz speed. Only place that I found my graphics slows down is SolarWind PvP zone. Also there was something funny about switching between Window/Fullscreen, sometimes it crashes game and sometimes crashes Wineskin.
If there is a way to switch between Wineskin and MacOS it would be awesome cause it seems all of us doing our research on internet
you shouldn't try to run STO in its windowed mode, its very unstable in Wine that way. Best to use he method I listed to run in a window, as it keeps STO in fullscreen, and just makes a virtual desktop window for it to play in.
and CMD+H (+h) is the best way to get out of fullscreen to multitask.
It runs pretty smooth (with the exception of a battle occurring in a nebula) but even at the highest settings it will allow me, it definitely doesn't look as good as some of the screenshots I've seen. The starships don't even emit ANY lights for me. If light is being shone on one side of the ship, the other side will be completely black with no lights whatsoever. I'm not sure if it can be fixed or not, but I'm not too worried about it right now. It's a fun game so I'll probably be playing for quite a while, in which time I'm sure to get a new computer.
You need to check most of the settings in the video section in STO... there are some options down at the very bottom that change a lot with lights... I tried STO for a few moments on my old Macbook Pro that has a X1600 and while kind of slow, it was mostly there graphically... not as bad of problems as your describing.
Just noting some testing results on my iMac (3.06 C2D w/8800 GS). Note that everything is running in space, only the spacedock type environments don't play nice. Using the beta 4, with a fresh copy of STO copied over from Bootcamp.
People have had issues with the 8800GS and some of the 8600s ... most people have gotten to play with them by keeping details and certain effects off, while turning on GLSL for Wine. I don't have a machine to test that stuff on myself.
I've got the same issue than him
AN error message saying my graphic card is unsupported. and then having bad graphics.
On Windows, I have the same error message but the graphics are better.
My graphic card is an ATI Radeon 4850 HD, by the way it may be linked with the fact that ATI did not get any driver out for Mac since 2007...could it be?
STO will not be able to detect your card right... no matter the card. Everyone running under Wine will get the same message, you just hit to use default. Hitting default will NOT change your settings. If you used Lower before (first run) and hit default the next time... it may very well still be using Lower because that had been set to the default. You need to manually go in STO video options once in the game and set things right... there are many options in there.... but it probably does run best on OSX 10.6 which has all the newest everything.
You need to check most of the settings in the video section in STO... there are some options down at the very bottom that change a lot with lights... I tried STO for a few moments on my old Macbook Pro that has a X1600 and while kind of slow, it was mostly there graphically... not as bad of problems as your describing.
Are you referring to the Troubleshooting section? Because the section above that is all grayed out and it says that "This option is not supported by the current GPU."
Ok, I might have pressed the Lower settings btn b4 hand. Which file do I need to rewrite? I tried recopying my PC version of the game with the same results. Will make some screenshots in a min and put them up.
There is a settings file located in the game folder... at "Cryptic Studios/Star Trek Online/Live/locadata/gameprefs.pref" I have not tried it, but I'd guess if you deleted this file, the patcher would re-download a default one....??? maybe? you can maybe try renaming it and see what happens.
Yeap tried all that. My settings are similar. I was just hoping for better graphics. Basically with the settings that are greyed out. Particles etc... Oh well, I guess i might have to wait for new versions of the wrapper. It works fine for now anyway.
Also, the menus at top of the launcher (ACCOUNT FORUMS etc. other than OPTIONS) don't work? Is that a limitation of Wineskin or because we don't run IE anymore?
This is because they made the launcher run using mshtml.dll from IE. The Wine Gecko implementation is close to working, but some of the interactive content and buttons do not work, and cannot even get the game launched. This wrapper is using the actual MS IE7 version of the mshtml.dll... but it doesn't have full IE7 installed. Those links will try to be launched in IE7 in Wine, but since it doesn't exist, they wont do anything. The options choice will work though.
This is because they made the launcher run using mshtml.dll from IE. The Wine Gecko implementation is close to working, but some of the interactive content and buttons do not work, and cannot even get the game launched. This wrapper is using the actual MS IE7 version of the mshtml.dll... but it doesn't have full IE7 installed. Those links will try to be launched in IE7 in Wine, but since it doesn't exist, they wont do anything. The options choice will work though.
It knows to use the system default browser. You should be able to put a stub program that calls out to OS X or something and set it up in the registry as the active browser.
It knows to use the system default browser. You should be able to put a stub program that calls out to OS X or something and set it up in the registry as the active browser.
thats a good idea, but not on the top of my list of priorities at the moment with my free time...
however if anyone else wants to do this before I get to it, so I can include it, it would be much appreciated.
I'm not that great with Windows development, to write a stub program to do that anyways. Would take me a lot of time and learning, when it seems so minor...
I plan on adding Web links to normal browser sometime in the future, as a normal Wineskin operation option. i can get the info from Wine on what it tried to do and the URL, and just open it up in the Mac default browser, no stub program or anything needed. Just haven't gotten to it yet.
I guess for super easy, i could always install Firefox in the wrapper and let it just show everything in Firefox, but thats kinda silly :-P
It is interesting someone is doing this for the Mac. Even though I have the PC version, I wonder why Cryptic did not do a Mac version as well? There are just as many Mac users as there are PC users.
I just asked on IRC and there should be a program called "winebrowser" that does this.
Winebrowser is getting badly formatted URLs and failing when I click a link on the login/patcher page...
err:winebrowser:get_url_from_dde Unable to retrieve URL from string L"\""
err:winebrowser:wmain Usage: winebrowser URL
thats all I get right now when I click a URL.... still seeing how it works.
If I do it manually from command line, winebrowser only works if you give it a full url, "http://www.startrekonline.com" if you leave off the http:// it fails.... it just seems to not understand the links.
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thats really odd... what are your computer specs? Mine doesn't come up after checking the box, and hasn't now through several patches.
After I install STO with your beta/wrapper, the STO app does not launch, it brings up the Wineskin menu again - so I choose the STO.exe. I can get to the launcher screen, and the patch begins to download but, after choosing default resolution, then I receive the error "Couldn't create D3D device." after it goes to an all white full screen. I've made a small screencast movie (10mb) to show you what's happening: https://www.yousendit.com/download/RmNEZXQzQzM3N0IzZUE9PQ
I have downloaded your Beta4 wrapper twice and the legal torrent (from the game page) twice since I assumed I did something wrong the first time. I purchased the Syfy bundle and just used the key provided.
I've also tried the "UseGLSL"="disabled"/"enabled" trick mentioned with no luck. I have also done the "verify" files - even though I skipped over it in the screencast.
I had no errors during the install and followed your PDF instructions to the letter - so what what am I doing wrong???
17" MacBookPro 2.33
10.6.2
ATI Radeon X1600
3GB RAM
ok.. here is what I noticed.
I cannot tell where your Cryptic Studios folder is at in the video. It is supposed to be inside of "Star Trek Online.app" inside its Program Files folder... not anywhere else on your hard drive.
Right click the Star Trek Online.app and select "Show Package Contents" to see inside of it... there you will see a folder that STO will think is a C: drive (called drive_c) and it has a Program Files folder in there.
If it is there, when you try to run the game, it will not have the errors about the EXE not being found, and actually run the game.
You need to get ti running without the EXE not found error.
You are trying to run the game through the game installer, which will not work. Its running in a rootless windowed mode with no virtual desktops, so STO cannot handle it and will error and crash like you see.
You need to put the Cryptic Studios folder inside int he right place, then run the app like normal... by default if you haven't changed Screen Options will will blacken out the whole screen and just show the log in and patcher on its own whole full screen. The game should then function ok... and you can run it in a window mode according to the directions as well.... but running the game through the Installer will not work no matter how you do it.... that is only useful for installing the game from a setup.exe.
its possible different versions install differently now.. but the normal setup for STO for me always wanted to put it in that location.... so thats where I made it look for it at.
Do I really have to waste another day waiting for it to patch?????
I'll post another screencast to show you what's going on and what I did.
if its all in the right spot, it shouldn't need to patch anymore.... unless your version was already old, but it shouldn't have to patch that much.
Inside of Star Trek Online.app... it should look like this picture.
STO Example.png
The piggs i have highlighted last are the main bulk of size (8.4gb) and if its not seeing those int he right spot its going to try to download them all over again.
I'm not a novice, really! but this is my first experience with Wineskin.
Thanks again.
what source are you installing from? I'm guessing you aren't running a setup.exe for it... are you copying it over from a Windows install?
if you just set it up from disc (or download) running the setup.exe, do NOT change the install location. It will by default install to exactly the right spot and work.... "C:\Program Files\Cryptic Studios" should be default and work.
most everyone is new to Wineskin, since i only started making it a few months back :-P
I have a Nalhalem Quad Core Mac Pro with the ATI card (pretty high spec) running OSX 10.5.8 . The wrapper runs perfectly (copied from my original windoze version) except for the graphics quality which is generally very bad.
When i mean bad, I mean its simply isnt pretty. Its basically using the lowest graphical settings available, its playable and everything else works just fine. Its just the quality that gets me.
Is everyone experiencing this? Or just me? I mean i know its to be expected, but I justed to give my input
Thank you soo much for the wrapper, its fantastic!
Chris
U.S.S. Papa
Thanks so much for your assistance and sorry to be such a noob.
Dr. Theopolis
maybe check your graphics settings? There are a few options, mainly AA, which don't work, but my graphics look very close to the same as they do running natively in Windows.... make sure your "half resolution" isn't turned on either.... mine is running good at far above lowest possible graphic settings.
Is there a setting that allows the app-switcher function to be utilized (Apple-Tab)? Right now, you have to quit in order to use OS X apps. Or is that just a function of windowing? Can I make it so that STO doesn't make a blackout screen of everything (meaning, leaving OS X menubar exposed)?
Also, the menus at top of the launcher (ACCOUNT FORUMS etc. other than OPTIONS) don't work? Is that a limitation of Wineskin or because we don't run IE anymore?
Just to reinterate, this unofficial method works very well (once I understood it!) and can't imagine any company needing to spend countless $$$ and development time in the future porting a Win game over to Mac!
now, I just need to find some easy tips/hints/tricks to bulk up my ship... I'm getting pummeled in space on my first mission out of space dock out of the Sol system!
Stay Rad!
Dr. Theopolis
By any account, you done awesome job, i can note down steps to reproduce if anyone care to look into fixing it.
If there is a way to switch between Wineskin and MacOS it would be awesome cause it seems all of us doing our research on internet
I just wanted to say how much I appreciate this program. I've been bummed for quite a while that I couldn't play because I don't have a Windows PC. But when I heard how much fun the game was from people, I considered buying Windows 7 and using Bootcamp to play the game, but with your program I only had to pay for the game and the subscription. So thanks, as well, for letting me take it easy on my wallet.
I basically get an error message that my graphics card isnt supported and that I should run the lower settings or the same settings. Both give me the same result. I am unable to select any higher quality setting via the setting menu in game.
I will post some screen shots tonight to better explain. Maybe that will clear things up.
Still I am happy that I have at least something on OSX to quickly jump in for a quick round.
Chris
P.S.
My graphics problems sound similar to kjb0812's above...
Just noting some testing results on my iMac (3.06 C2D w/8800 GS). Note that everything is running in space, only the spacedock type environments don't play nice. Using the beta 4, with a fresh copy of STO copied over from Bootcamp.
(at this point, video quality are at high settings. My character is at Earth Spacedock)
- Set UseGLSL to "enabled"
- Run STO
-> Logs in fine, then gets to the third loading screen (past the Cryptic and Atari logos, to the Starfleet logo with 'Loading' underneath). Crashes at this point.
==
- Set UseGLSL to "disabled" (video still at high settings)
- Run STO
-> Logs in fine, loads fine to character selection. Character selects, and the Earth Spacedock loading screen is displayed. Loading bar goes most (all?) of the way over, then STO crashes.
==
- Set all video quality details to lowest possible settings.
- Run STO
-> Same as above. Character selects, Earth Spacedock loading screen displays. Load bar goes across, then crash.
==
- Set UseGLSL back to "enabled" (video quality remains at lowest possible settings)
- Run STO
-> Eureka! Loads, character selects, and spacedock loads!
(note at this point: I have been expose-ing back to safari to type this. When I switched back to STO, it had crashed. The next test will be to see how long STO stays running for without switching back and forth).
==
No good - 2 attempts to load and stay in-game result in quick crashes. The first attempt crashed on the spacedock loading screen; the second attempt crashed immediately after spacedock loaded.
==
Next test - into the Troubleshooting section of the Video config settings. Everything in there gets turned off, and the framerate is limited to 30fps.
- Run STO
-> No good. Loading Spacedock, then crash on the loading screen.
Hopefully this stuff helps someone! Beyond the occasional glimpse of Spacedock, I haven't been able to make a lot of progress
I've got the same issue than him
AN error message saying my graphic card is unsupported. and then having bad graphics.
On Windows, I have the same error message but the graphics are better.
My graphic card is an ATI Radeon 4850 HD, by the way it may be linked with the fact that ATI did not get any driver out for Mac since 2007...could it be?
Doc, I love the name, be-be-be, but I think you need to slow down and read doh123's directions.pdf file that came with the wrapper if you want to run with STO as a regular apple+tab app, i.e. wineskin in windowed mode:
How to run in a window
Xquartz doesn't support fullscreen and windowing mode switches... if you would like to
run in a window, you need to change options in WineskinSettings.app, under screen
options.
Change it to Windowed instead of Fullscreen, and select the desired resolution of the
virtual desktop window that STO will be running inside of.
Always leave STO set to run in fullscreen and let Wineskin handle the windowing for
best results. STO can and will resize this virtual desktop via the in game resolution
settings. If you set STO to run in a window, and Wineskin to run fullscreen, youʼll just
end up with a window of STO on a black fullscreen background.
If you want to leave STO in full screen but still get to your other apps without quitting, try her directions from her original post at the top of the thread:
How do I multitask in fullscreen?
You can hide STO with the normal Hide shortcut while its running... CMD+H and get back to your desktop.
Be warned though that if you had STO running at a different resolution than the one you normally run, you'll still be in that resolution.
BTW, CMD+H = apple+H, take care, bro.
Itried switching Hide to CMD+Tab in Xquartz and it had issues with the game keys. Leaving it on CMD+H worked ok... its the default Hide command for all OSX apps. It will hide STO so you can use your computer, then you can click on the STO icon in the dock (the running one not the launcher) to get back to the game.
I have a testing version I'm working on right now with some Wineskin changes I'm making, that have a single Icon, no separate launcher Icon and running Icon. But you wouldn't really notice that unless you tried making an entry on your dock for the game.
you shouldn't try to run STO in its windowed mode, its very unstable in Wine that way. Best to use he method I listed to run in a window, as it keeps STO in fullscreen, and just makes a virtual desktop window for it to play in.
and CMD+H (+h) is the best way to get out of fullscreen to multitask.
You need to check most of the settings in the video section in STO... there are some options down at the very bottom that change a lot with lights... I tried STO for a few moments on my old Macbook Pro that has a X1600 and while kind of slow, it was mostly there graphically... not as bad of problems as your describing.
People have had issues with the 8800GS and some of the 8600s ... most people have gotten to play with them by keeping details and certain effects off, while turning on GLSL for Wine. I don't have a machine to test that stuff on myself.
STO will not be able to detect your card right... no matter the card. Everyone running under Wine will get the same message, you just hit to use default. Hitting default will NOT change your settings. If you used Lower before (first run) and hit default the next time... it may very well still be using Lower because that had been set to the default. You need to manually go in STO video options once in the game and set things right... there are many options in there.... but it probably does run best on OSX 10.6 which has all the newest everything.
Are you referring to the Troubleshooting section? Because the section above that is all grayed out and it says that "This option is not supported by the current GPU."
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4486028/STO/STO%20Settings.png
There is a settings file located in the game folder... at "Cryptic Studios/Star Trek Online/Live/locadata/gameprefs.pref" I have not tried it, but I'd guess if you deleted this file, the patcher would re-download a default one....??? maybe? you can maybe try renaming it and see what happens.
Edit:
Scratch that, I opened and closed it a few times and it worked. Awesome work doh123
This is because they made the launcher run using mshtml.dll from IE. The Wine Gecko implementation is close to working, but some of the interactive content and buttons do not work, and cannot even get the game launched. This wrapper is using the actual MS IE7 version of the mshtml.dll... but it doesn't have full IE7 installed. Those links will try to be launched in IE7 in Wine, but since it doesn't exist, they wont do anything. The options choice will work though.
thats a good idea, but not on the top of my list of priorities at the moment with my free time...
however if anyone else wants to do this before I get to it, so I can include it, it would be much appreciated.
I'm not that great with Windows development, to write a stub program to do that anyways. Would take me a lot of time and learning, when it seems so minor...
I plan on adding Web links to normal browser sometime in the future, as a normal Wineskin operation option. i can get the info from Wine on what it tried to do and the URL, and just open it up in the Mac default browser, no stub program or anything needed. Just haven't gotten to it yet.
I guess for super easy, i could always install Firefox in the wrapper and let it just show everything in Firefox, but thats kinda silly :-P
oh.. cool, I'll check for that, thanks!
Winebrowser is getting badly formatted URLs and failing when I click a link on the login/patcher page...
thats all I get right now when I click a URL.... still seeing how it works.
If I do it manually from command line, winebrowser only works if you give it a full url, "http://www.startrekonline.com" if you leave off the http:// it fails.... it just seems to not understand the links.