System:
Mac Pro, Early 2009, 2.26 Ghz Xeon (dual proc./8 core total/16 hypertreaded cores)
12GB RAM
4 TB drive
NVIDIA GTX 285 (main)
NVIDIA GT 120 (not in use)
OS X 10.6.2
Performance Report:
Copied the directories from my bootcamp. First time I loaded it died due to Little Snitch. Restarted and it's loading now.
Loads kinda slow. My system uses a software RAID so I hope that's not an issue
I'm in StarBase 39, and getting what looks to be at least 25-30 FPS, if not more. Other than the lack of anti-aliasing it looks fine. This is at windowed mode with 1920 x 1080 resolution. Granted, I get much smoother graphics on Windows 7, but at first glance this seems playable. I'll report back with more.
Bugs
When I drag my mouse outside the wine window, even when the windows cursor has been disappeared due to the use of enable camera rotation, the Mac cursor reappears when it goes outside of the Wine window, and this causes issues, making my dock pop up, and causing the camera do do messed up things when my cursor jumps over to my secondary monitor, etc.
Questions
I wonder if there is a way to install the latest NVIDIA drivers into the Wine wrapper?
Questions
I wonder if there is a way to install the latest NVIDIA drivers into the Wine wrapper?
Not possible. not ever possible.
Wine doesn't speak to your graphics card directly the way windows does, it translates your games DirectX commands and drawing instructions into OpenGL commands and X Server drawing instructions
Xquartz, the X11 server basically has a type of pass through drivers that goes directly to quartz, so there are no specific drivers for a card other than the main OS driver that handles quartz.... it cannot have a dedicated graphics card driver since its running on top of another windowing system thats using the video card.
not really sure why yours is crashing Teotgawki... wish I could be more help, but just not sure what to say, it really shouldn't be having that problem.
Hmm, picking through the loads of tidbits, I overlooked this one a few dozen times. It happens when I run wineskin, even though it appears to open without any issues. Any idea what this means?
Hmm, picking through the loads of tidbits, I overlooked this one a few dozen times. It happens when I run wineskin, even though it appears to open without any issues. Any idea what this means?
Not really sure why WineskinSettings would try to do anything with Safari... not sure its a message to worry about though.... but I'm far form an expert, i kinda just figure out how to do things as I go, so I might have something somewhere thats not quite right I haven't found.... never know with Xcode, it likes to link all kinds of libraries around without saying anything.
Ahh ok.
I had no idea the client actually had the ability detect if its running under WINE.
EDIT: I think I'll go back to trying to break stuff now.
There are a few default settings that get changed automatically like that to make things work better. One of the Wine devs pointed me at code to detect if you are running with the Wine DLLs, so it was easy to add.
Tired so this is it but thanks for the help in figureing out some of this tonight. After I click on use the default rather than lowered setting it will crash right after the 2 logo names appear and pass and I get this Cryptic Error Oops!
Oops! Cryptic Application has crashed. To help us out, please indicate what was going on at the time of the crash, while we gather info. and a space for me to make a note and submit button. The wine system Tray shows up during this in the upper left corner. I have the wine set for rootless to get a windowed mode thats about it except at the defualt or lowered setting dialogue it sates I may have an insufficent video/graphics card or some such. Also is a desktop alies supposed to be created out of wine for this cause ive been trashing it though not this last try? Did not know why it was there at all.
I'm running it rootless with virtual desktop with these settings current resolution at 24 bit and 0 sec pause. My Macbook Pro display is set at 1152 x 720 in millions. My os is ver 10.5.8 Processor 2.6 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo and Memory of 4 GB 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM with GeForce 8600M GT with VRAM (Total): 512 MB and Depth: 32-Bit Color with the rest of the graphics info here Displays:
Color LCD:
Resolution: 1152 x 720
Depth: 32-Bit Color
Core Image: Hardware Accelerated
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
Built-In: Yes
The 24 bit setting in the wine settings differs from the graphics 32 bit but otherwise i dont see anything and i would not know how to change the mac to 24 bit display or if that is adjustable?
I activated my retail key and tried again using both the default display and lowered display and bothtimes as before crashed. Perhaps i should start over and reinstall everything. Googled for driver updates for GeForce 8600M GT but found little or too complex for me to understand.
The lanuch screen always verifies like 98,000 files before i can click engage button but it seems ok then and click on default screen settings and still ok till after the Attare logo disappears and the Starfleete badge is all thats there then the crash dialogue window.
Maybe its something weird like a permissions thing or I dont know. Is there a specific location that this app must be? can it be in a folder on my normal desktop or Applications folder and would that do this?
I previousl got rid of some icon alieses and innitially when trying to install retail game disc into wine i messed up a bit and broke the installer ending up with a black screen untill isaw that post about how to do it from retail disc without breaking installer then it seemed OK finally but maybe the earlier attempts have left somekind of corruption or maybe i need somekind of esoteric driver update for my GeForce 8600M GT? Really worn out and too slow of mind to make much sense but any ideas for me to try tomorrow are appreciated. Maybe I should download the game from my account since i had a prekey and try that first?
Were Poetman's issues ever solved? From what I can see, we have the same MBP and that's exactly what's happening with mine, regardless of what settings I adjust. I'll be hopeful that there's something simple I'm overlooking. I haven't even seen the game yet, it's killing me. Heh. I've stared at that Star Trek logo and crash screen every few minutes for hours and hours.
There are a few default settings that get changed automatically like that to make things work better. One of the Wine devs pointed me at code to detect if you are running with the Wine DLLs, so it was easy to add.
I like the sound of good coding.
However there is another issue I know of but that needs its own thread.
Were Poetman's issues ever solved? From what I can see, we have the same MBP and that's exactly what's happening with mine, regardless of what settings I adjust. I'll be hopeful that there's something simple I'm overlooking. I haven't even seen the game yet, it's killing me. Heh. I've stared at that Star Trek logo and crash screen every few minutes for hours and hours.
This most likely wont help at all, but it's worth a shot:
First, run Software Update and make sure you're all up to date.
Second, open Disk Utility and run Verify/Repair Permissions on your hard drive.
Third, make sure the user account you're using has admin privileges.
I doubt any of that will help, but it's worth a shot.
This most likely wont help at all, but it's worth a shot:
First, run Software Update and make sure you're all up to date.
Second, open Disk Utility and run Verify/Repair Permissions on your hard drive.
Third, make sure the user account you're using has admin privileges.
I doubt any of that will help, but it's worth a shot.
Just tried em all, waiting for the Verify to finish, wish me luck.
I think I'm to the point that if you said dressing like Uhura and singing showtunes whilst re-installing would help, I'd be shimmying into a lil red dress faster than you could blink.
Just tried em all, waiting for the Verify to finish, wish me luck.
I think I'm to the point that if you said dressing like Uhura and singing showtunes whilst re-installing would help, I'd be shimmying into a lil red dress faster than you could blink.
not an admin problem, that would cause it to fail before STO could even try to start...
do you have beta3.1? or Wineskin RC7 wrapper? YOu need a full WineskinSettings.app to test a few things... you can copy it out of another wrapper and replace the limited STO modified one in beta 4 and it'll work fine. There is a test run button, and it'll run everything in logging mode, then you can get full Wine and X11 logs.
not an admin problem, that would cause it to fail before STO could even try to start...
do you have beta3.1? or Wineskin RC7 wrapper? YOu need a full WineskinSettings.app to test a few things... you can copy it out of another wrapper and replace the limited STO modified one in beta 4 and it'll work fine. There is a test run button, and it'll run everything in logging mode, then you can get full Wine and X11 logs.
I'm running a:
MBP5,1
OSX 10.5.8
2.4GHz Int Core 2 Duo
4GB 1067 Mhz DDR3
NVIDIA GeF 9400M
I downloaded Beta4 from your link...
Followed the install instructions...
In the Wineskin app I set the display settings to Full and Current.
From "Show package contents" I open the "Mac OS" folder....
When I try to use the "startrekonline.app" it sits in the Dock and bounces.
If I use the "Wineskin" line right below that the program opens, I can log in, everything patches/verifies fine, the Cryptic and Atari pages load, and then the StarFleet logo appears. From there it crashes.
I am currently trying the CrossOver Version, put it takes so long to patch the connection times out...
...and now that I have already activated the game on my Mac, it wont let me go back and install it on either of my PC's.
X11.app: DISPLAY does not look like a launchd set variable, unsetting.
X11.app: main(): argc=8
argv[0] = /Applications/Star Trek Online.app/Contents/MacOS/Star Trek Online.app/Contents/MacOS/WineskinX11
argv[1] = :641
argv[2] = -depth
argv[3] = 24
argv[4] = +xinerama
argv[5] = -br
argv[6] = +extension
argv[7] = WineskinLine
Waiting for startup parameters via Mach IPC.
X11.app: No launchd socket handed off, unsetting DISPLAY
X11.app: do_start_x11_server(): argc=8
argv[0] = /Applications/Star Trek Online.app/Contents/MacOS/Star Trek Online.app/Contents/MacOS/WineskinX11
argv[1] = :641
argv[2] = -depth
argv[3] = 24
argv[4] = +xinerama
argv[5] = -br
argv[6] = +extension
argv[7] = WineskinLine
Attempting to use pixel depth of 24
[mi] Extension "WineskinLine" is not recognized
[mi] Only the following extensions can be run-time enabled:
[mi] Generic Events
[mi] DAMAGE
[mi] DOUBLE-BUFFER
[mi] GLX
[mi] MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[mi] MIT-SHM
[mi] RANDR
[mi] RENDER
[mi] X-Resource
[mi] XFIXES
[mi] XINERAMA
[mi] XTEST
[mi] XVideo
Xquartz starting:
X.Org X Server 1.7.2
Build Date: 20091129
2010-02-08 00:36:13.548 WineskinX11[3543:10b] Incompatible applications: app=Star Trek Online.Wineskin.prefs, targetApp=com.apple.Safari
[dix] Could not init font path element /Applications/.Wineskin/share/fonts/misc/, removing from list!
[dix] Could not init font path element /Applications/.Wineskin/share/fonts/TTF/, removing from list!
[dix] Could not init font path element /Applications/.Wineskin/share/fonts/OTF, removing from list!
[dix] Could not init font path element /Applications/.Wineskin/share/fonts/Type1/, removing from list!
[dix] Could not init font path element /Applications/.Wineskin/share/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list!
[dix] Could not init font path element /Applications/.Wineskin/share/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list!
/bin/sh: WineskinLine: command not found
/bin/sh: -c: option requires an argument
start_x11_server: (ipc/mig) server died
There's a quite a few things that look off in lastwinerun, but that log is a bit too long to post here. Anythng in particular I should look for? I tried to narrow it down by string matching "err" but that was still quite a bit of info.
And TCryan, that's the same problem I'm having, and it did the same thing in CrossOver, but hopefully it works for you!
Were Poetman's issues ever solved? From what I can see, we have the same MBP and that's exactly what's happening with mine, regardless of what settings I adjust. I'll be hopeful that there's something simple I'm overlooking. I haven't even seen the game yet, it's killing me. Heh. I've stared at that Star Trek logo and crash screen every few minutes for hours and hours.
ah I'd like to say everythings fine; but not yet. Still same issue with Beta 4 happens. I tried clicking on the instructions using that Reg.. whatever button in Tools in wine but it did not seem to do anything and did not open any folder or files to edit like instructed. So gave up finally. Tried then to run in Fusion 2.1 and it worked until i got to first mission and then it goes crazy with like 50 mouse images and a bunch of the dialogues start cloning and appearing too. With a strobe like effect. Don't want to use bootcamp cause i don't have a win operating disc for one or the money to buy one just the win XP and win 98 that I can convert from old Virtual PC.
Downloaded the crossover too but have not tried it yet.
I'd prefer wine but and this thread on this app to be the way for me to play but I'm either to slow or just lack the tech know how to make whatever adjustments i must to make it work at this time with my apparently fickle video card.
Please forgive me for exposing this thread to some of those other solution attempts. Just trying to let you all know that I am determined somehow to make it through this first mission no matter what App I end up using to do so. A slow non techie type perhaps overly challenged will keep on going. I have a standard and Special Ed and so far have only tried using the SE of STO from the disc.
OK anyone who lives in Kansas City want to stop over and set this up from me LOL I'd be very thankful.
I still think it is agreat app this wine wrapper and congrats to the designers since it does work for a lot of folks just not me yet perhaps due to my tech inabilities to make proper adjustments?
There are a few default settings that get changed automatically like that to make things work better. One of the Wine devs pointed me at code to detect if you are running with the Wine DLLs, so it was easy to add.
I think it is cool that you guys are helping this work and wish that other MMO companies out there that don't have an official port of their games would do the same.
I have still not tried this on my MacBook Pro yet but need to soon so I don't have to boot up in windows.
I'm running a:
MBP5,1
OSX 10.5.8
2.4GHz Int Core 2 Duo
4GB 1067 Mhz DDR3
NVIDIA GeF 9400M
I downloaded Beta4 from your link...
Followed the install instructions...
In the Wineskin app I set the display settings to Full and Current.
From "Show package contents" I open the "Mac OS" folder....
When I try to use the "startrekonline.app" it sits in the Dock and bounces.
If I use the "Wineskin" line right below that the program opens, I can log in, everything patches/verifies fine, the Cryptic and Atari pages load, and then the StarFleet logo appears. From there it crashes.
I am currently trying the CrossOver Version, put it takes so long to patch the connection times out...
...and now that I have already activated the game on my Mac, it wont let me go back and install it on either of my PC's.
well for starters... do NOT try to run the Star Trek Online.app that is inside the MacOS folder... it wont work, and its not supposed to. That is the main app you'll se running in the dock, but it has to be launched a special way. The main wrapper app... is a launcher that takes care of everything. You want to double click that to run, not just go inside it and run things.
That said, if you run Wineskin the executable in the MacOS folder, it will do mostly the same thing that running it correctly would do.... so if it crashes that way, you still have a problem.
Mine always crashed in that same exact place, until I disabled GLSL.... I wonder if you all crashing should try to re-enable it just for a test and see what happens???
inside the wrapper at Contents/Resources there is a file called user.reg
you can open this in TextEdit.app.
use search and find (without the quotes) "Software\\Wine\\Direct3D"
when you find that you should see a line under it that says...
"UseGLSL"="disabled"
change the word from disabled, to enabled.... save and exit... and try again. If it still crashes, go back and change it to disabled and try again.
I had it working for a few launches with enabled before, then all of a sudden it started crashing again, and i had to launch it a few times each way then all of a sudden it started working again. Its just kinda finkle in some way, probably cuz the build of Wine is very... not standard... not sure.
There's a quite a few things that look off in lastwinerun, but that log is a bit too long to post here. Anythng in particular I should look for? I tried to narrow it down by string matching "err" but that was still quite a bit of info.
nothing wrong with that X11 log... and usually there will not be, its not worth looking at unless the game fails to launch at all.
hard to say what to look at. Best bet is just make a post of the wine log on pastebin.com and give the link here, and I can look through it and see if anything catches my eye.
Mine always crashed in that same exact place, until I disabled GLSL.... I wonder if you all crashing should try to re-enable it just for a test and see what happens???
inside the wrapper at Contents/Resources there is a file called user.reg
you can open this in TextEdit.app.
use search and find (without the quotes) "Software\\Wine\\Direct3D"
when you find that you should see a line under it that says...
"UseGLSL"="disabled"
change the word from disabled, to enabled.... save and exit... and try again. If it still crashes, go back and change it to disabled and try again.
I'll give that a try, and I've got the lastwinerun here. I really appreciate the help. Thanks
seven minutes of set up later (that's a compliment to the simplicity of this solution) I was simply blown away by one thing specifically: THE GRAPHICS LOOK WAAAAAAAY BETTER. I had had the notion that it'd look better in native osx- however after clicking on "play in reduced graphics" mode, who would think it looks better than win7? Well, as we're used to, once more OSX +1
Anyhow, I've been having some issues with windowed mode & fullscreen. See, in full screen it's perfect- yet for some reason the dock still pops up... also if I cmd-tab out, I am unable to tab back in, despite hearing the music go on in the background. Spaces also doesn't show it. If I set it to start in windowed mode- there doesn't seem to be a way to resize the window- thus two/three cm of the window are out of the workspace- so no boff skills (!?!?!?); any thoughts on how to deal with this?
It's so awesome looking, and if I can figure out how to get it fixed, I can delete win7
THANKS
AFA
I'll give that a try, and I've got the lastwinerun here. I really appreciate the help. Thanks
ETA IT WORKED!
Started up no problem as soon as I enabled it.
Dude, you are so full of awesome. *hugs*
ok... so apparently some video cards need glsl on, and some need it off? thats great... lol. I'll have to add an easy option to switch it on and off in WineskinSettings.app
seven minutes of set up later (that's a compliment to the simplicity of this solution) I was simply blown away by one thing specifically: THE GRAPHICS LOOK WAAAAAAAY BETTER. I had had the notion that it'd look better in native osx- however after clicking on "play in reduced graphics" mode, who would think it looks better than win7? Well, as we're used to, once more OSX +1
Anyhow, I've been having some issues with windowed mode & fullscreen. See, in full screen it's perfect- yet for some reason the dock still pops up... also if I cmd-tab out, I am unable to tab back in, despite hearing the music go on in the background. Spaces also doesn't show it. If I set it to start in windowed mode- there doesn't seem to be a way to resize the window- thus two/three cm of the window are out of the workspace- so no boff skills (!?!?!?); any thoughts on how to deal with this?
It's so awesome looking, and if I can figure out how to get it fixed, I can delete win7
THANKS
AFA
OSX 10.6.2
2.5ghz IC2Duo
4gb sdram
GEforce 8600
Fullscreen mode in Xquartz isn't the best thing in the world.... at times I have seen it not launch right and the dock still pops up. I haven't found a fix for it, but *usually* when I run it it works fine with no dock or top menu bar. I'm going to be updating Xquartz in Wineskin as soon as xorg server 1.8 is done, which should fix many issues, hopefully this as well.
Xquartz doesn't like spaces...
CMD Tab worked? not supposed to if its launched right. CMD+H will hide it. CMD+TAB or clicking on the running icon in the dock (not the launcher icon) will get back into it.
true window mode works very poorly and has several issues. The current "window" mode in Wineskin is using the game as fullscreen, and running it in a virtual desktop window. The game sees it as fullscreen. Using it like this, its best to set the window resolution to what you want in WineskinSettings.app before starting the game.
I'm still looking into Window problems as I can, seeing if there is a better and more stable way to really make it windowed. I suggest using Fullscreen at current resolution and using CMD+H to multitask.
I really can't thank you enough for the work you're doing here. I've been playing STO on a 1st gen Mac Pro (Dual Core 2.66, 4 gigs of ram nVidia 8800gt, Snow Leopard 10.6.2) through your shell and it's working great so far, even running the game at my full display resolution 2560x1600. I've also have an intel iMac and aMacbookPro that I plan to test very soon
If you ever want a digital paint portrait of your captain, just say the word. My little way of saying thanks (you can check out my work through the link in my sig).
I'm also playing around on a Mac with an 8800GS and had to change "UseGLSL"="enabled" to even get STO to launch. It launches fine but won't connect to the servers now. Still testing and trying but no luck yet. Thanks though as this is cool if I can ever get it to work.
(I usually play on my Windows 7 box)
EDIT: All fixed up.. pesky firewall... bypassed. hehe
I had several days without any time for gaming or testing. Back now. Here's an update...
On page 20 I mentioned that I always get the "Ooops not again - here comes the Cryptic error box" every single time I tried to launch the game. I checked permissions, write access to the files, everything I could think of. Still the crashes continued. I copied over the game from my Bootcamp disk once more, starting from scratch. Still nothing. Same crash. Rinse and repeat, using beta 2, beta 3 and beta 4. Nothing. Crash galore. At one point the Wine error log showed me that the game tried to link to my Bootcamp disk (which is physically on another disk).
I gave up this route, and downloaded the client from the STO website instead - installing it with the WineskinSettings, all according to the instructions. Still the crashes continued.
Then I read your answer to a post above me here now, where you suggested to change "UseGLSL"0"disabled" to "enabled" in the file user.reg. Then...
Eureka...:D
Problem solved. I logged straight into the game (the game insisted on my fullscreen being set to 1024 x 768, I changed this to my display's native 1920 x 1200). Running full-screen, maxed out all the graphical settings available (some are grayed out), and the game runs beautifully. Thank you so much doh123
I'll still continue to play via Bootcamp because of the superior graphics, but now I can play STO also via OS X whenever I am multitasking, or just get the urgency to play without the hassle of booting into Windows.
What I wonder about now though is if this error I had, and others here too, is related to the nVidia GeForce 8xxx series. We all seem to use different kinds of Macs, but it looks like the nVidia cards are a common factor.
For reference, here is my system information:
Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro3,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 8
L2 Cache (per processor): 12 MB
Memory: 10 GB
Bus Speed: 1.6 GHz
Cannot thank you enough. Using the "enabled" setting did the trick and it works great. Now, I just have to get through work so I can start playing!
Also, wanted to acknowledge NetSlut for suggesting we donate to your Wineskin project to show our support (for example $10USD). Due to some fat fingering on my part, I accidentally posted two donation messages. I'm happy to make good on both of them. Let me know if you don't get my $20.
Much obliged to you, the community and, of course, Cryptic, especially CodeRanger.
Thanks,
Plato
Edit:
Model Name: MacBook
Model Identifier: MacBook5,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 2 GB
I just wanted to throw my thanks in as well. I just grabbed Beta 4 and copied over from my Boot Camp install and everything worked without any sort of issue at all. Still trying to tweak out my graphics settings, but everything is running faster through Wineskin than in WinXP. I'm deliriously happy with the results so far.
Comments
Mac Pro, Early 2009, 2.26 Ghz Xeon (dual proc./8 core total/16 hypertreaded cores)
12GB RAM
4 TB drive
NVIDIA GTX 285 (main)
NVIDIA GT 120 (not in use)
OS X 10.6.2
Performance Report:
Copied the directories from my bootcamp. First time I loaded it died due to Little Snitch. Restarted and it's loading now.
Loads kinda slow. My system uses a software RAID so I hope that's not an issue
I'm in StarBase 39, and getting what looks to be at least 25-30 FPS, if not more. Other than the lack of anti-aliasing it looks fine. This is at windowed mode with 1920 x 1080 resolution. Granted, I get much smoother graphics on Windows 7, but at first glance this seems playable. I'll report back with more.
Bugs
When I drag my mouse outside the wine window, even when the windows cursor has been disappeared due to the use of enable camera rotation, the Mac cursor reappears when it goes outside of the Wine window, and this causes issues, making my dock pop up, and causing the camera do do messed up things when my cursor jumps over to my secondary monitor, etc.
Questions
I wonder if there is a way to install the latest NVIDIA drivers into the Wine wrapper?
Not possible. not ever possible.
Wine doesn't speak to your graphics card directly the way windows does, it translates your games DirectX commands and drawing instructions into OpenGL commands and X Server drawing instructions
not really sure why yours is crashing Teotgawki... wish I could be more help, but just not sure what to say, it really shouldn't be having that problem.
Hey dude, do you ever sleep? :P every time I'm here I see you working hard on STO:Mac do you ever take any time for yourself?
2010-02-07 19:10:21.908 WineskinSettings[9537:10b] Incompatible applications: app=WineskinSettings.Wineskin.prefs, targetApp=com.apple.Safari
Being that I'm a full time student and most of my classes are online, and I use only ebooks... I'm in front of the computer a lot and multitask well.
Not really sure why WineskinSettings would try to do anything with Safari... not sure its a message to worry about though.... but I'm far form an expert, i kinda just figure out how to do things as I go, so I might have something somewhere thats not quite right I haven't found.... never know with Xcode, it likes to link all kinds of libraries around without saying anything.
I had no idea the client actually had the ability detect if its running under WINE.
EDIT: I think I'll go back to trying to break stuff now.
Were Poetman's issues ever solved? From what I can see, we have the same MBP and that's exactly what's happening with mine, regardless of what settings I adjust. I'll be hopeful that there's something simple I'm overlooking. I haven't even seen the game yet, it's killing me. Heh. I've stared at that Star Trek logo and crash screen every few minutes for hours and hours.
However there is another issue I know of but that needs its own thread.
This most likely wont help at all, but it's worth a shot:
First, run Software Update and make sure you're all up to date.
Second, open Disk Utility and run Verify/Repair Permissions on your hard drive.
Third, make sure the user account you're using has admin privileges.
I doubt any of that will help, but it's worth a shot.
Just tried em all, waiting for the Verify to finish, wish me luck.
I think I'm to the point that if you said dressing like Uhura and singing showtunes whilst re-installing would help, I'd be shimmying into a lil red dress faster than you could blink.
not an admin problem, that would cause it to fail before STO could even try to start...
do you have beta3.1? or Wineskin RC7 wrapper? YOu need a full WineskinSettings.app to test a few things... you can copy it out of another wrapper and replace the limited STO modified one in beta 4 and it'll work fine. There is a test run button, and it'll run everything in logging mode, then you can get full Wine and X11 logs.
No, just 4. Where can I grab 3?
ETA, got RC7. Fiddling with it now.
MBP5,1
OSX 10.5.8
2.4GHz Int Core 2 Duo
4GB 1067 Mhz DDR3
NVIDIA GeF 9400M
I downloaded Beta4 from your link...
Followed the install instructions...
In the Wineskin app I set the display settings to Full and Current.
From "Show package contents" I open the "Mac OS" folder....
When I try to use the "startrekonline.app" it sits in the Dock and bounces.
If I use the "Wineskin" line right below that the program opens, I can log in, everything patches/verifies fine, the Cryptic and Atari pages load, and then the StarFleet logo appears. From there it crashes.
I am currently trying the CrossOver Version, put it takes so long to patch the connection times out...
...and now that I have already activated the game on my Mac, it wont let me go back and install it on either of my PC's.
X11.app: DISPLAY does not look like a launchd set variable, unsetting.
X11.app: main(): argc=8
argv[0] = /Applications/Star Trek Online.app/Contents/MacOS/Star Trek Online.app/Contents/MacOS/WineskinX11
argv[1] = :641
argv[2] = -depth
argv[3] = 24
argv[4] = +xinerama
argv[5] = -br
argv[6] = +extension
argv[7] = WineskinLine
Waiting for startup parameters via Mach IPC.
X11.app: No launchd socket handed off, unsetting DISPLAY
X11.app: do_start_x11_server(): argc=8
argv[0] = /Applications/Star Trek Online.app/Contents/MacOS/Star Trek Online.app/Contents/MacOS/WineskinX11
argv[1] = :641
argv[2] = -depth
argv[3] = 24
argv[4] = +xinerama
argv[5] = -br
argv[6] = +extension
argv[7] = WineskinLine
Attempting to use pixel depth of 24
[mi] Extension "WineskinLine" is not recognized
[mi] Only the following extensions can be run-time enabled:
[mi] Generic Events
[mi] DAMAGE
[mi] DOUBLE-BUFFER
[mi] GLX
[mi] MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[mi] MIT-SHM
[mi] RANDR
[mi] RENDER
[mi] X-Resource
[mi] XFIXES
[mi] XINERAMA
[mi] XTEST
[mi] XVideo
Xquartz starting:
X.Org X Server 1.7.2
Build Date: 20091129
2010-02-08 00:36:13.548 WineskinX11[3543:10b] Incompatible applications: app=Star Trek Online.Wineskin.prefs, targetApp=com.apple.Safari
[dix] Could not init font path element /Applications/.Wineskin/share/fonts/misc/, removing from list!
[dix] Could not init font path element /Applications/.Wineskin/share/fonts/TTF/, removing from list!
[dix] Could not init font path element /Applications/.Wineskin/share/fonts/OTF, removing from list!
[dix] Could not init font path element /Applications/.Wineskin/share/fonts/Type1/, removing from list!
[dix] Could not init font path element /Applications/.Wineskin/share/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list!
[dix] Could not init font path element /Applications/.Wineskin/share/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list!
/bin/sh: WineskinLine: command not found
/bin/sh: -c: option requires an argument
start_x11_server: (ipc/mig) server died
There's a quite a few things that look off in lastwinerun, but that log is a bit too long to post here. Anythng in particular I should look for? I tried to narrow it down by string matching "err" but that was still quite a bit of info.
And TCryan, that's the same problem I'm having, and it did the same thing in CrossOver, but hopefully it works for you!
ah I'd like to say everythings fine; but not yet. Still same issue with Beta 4 happens. I tried clicking on the instructions using that Reg.. whatever button in Tools in wine but it did not seem to do anything and did not open any folder or files to edit like instructed. So gave up finally. Tried then to run in Fusion 2.1 and it worked until i got to first mission and then it goes crazy with like 50 mouse images and a bunch of the dialogues start cloning and appearing too. With a strobe like effect. Don't want to use bootcamp cause i don't have a win operating disc for one or the money to buy one just the win XP and win 98 that I can convert from old Virtual PC.
Downloaded the crossover too but have not tried it yet.
I'd prefer wine but and this thread on this app to be the way for me to play but I'm either to slow or just lack the tech know how to make whatever adjustments i must to make it work at this time with my apparently fickle video card.
Please forgive me for exposing this thread to some of those other solution attempts. Just trying to let you all know that I am determined somehow to make it through this first mission no matter what App I end up using to do so. A slow non techie type perhaps overly challenged will keep on going. I have a standard and Special Ed and so far have only tried using the SE of STO from the disc.
OK anyone who lives in Kansas City want to stop over and set this up from me LOL I'd be very thankful.
I still think it is agreat app this wine wrapper and congrats to the designers since it does work for a lot of folks just not me yet perhaps due to my tech inabilities to make proper adjustments?
I think it is cool that you guys are helping this work and wish that other MMO companies out there that don't have an official port of their games would do the same.
I have still not tried this on my MacBook Pro yet but need to soon so I don't have to boot up in windows.
well for starters... do NOT try to run the Star Trek Online.app that is inside the MacOS folder... it wont work, and its not supposed to. That is the main app you'll se running in the dock, but it has to be launched a special way. The main wrapper app... is a launcher that takes care of everything. You want to double click that to run, not just go inside it and run things.
That said, if you run Wineskin the executable in the MacOS folder, it will do mostly the same thing that running it correctly would do.... so if it crashes that way, you still have a problem.
Mine always crashed in that same exact place, until I disabled GLSL.... I wonder if you all crashing should try to re-enable it just for a test and see what happens???
inside the wrapper at Contents/Resources there is a file called user.reg
you can open this in TextEdit.app.
use search and find (without the quotes) "Software\\Wine\\Direct3D"
when you find that you should see a line under it that says...
"UseGLSL"="disabled"
change the word from disabled, to enabled.... save and exit... and try again. If it still crashes, go back and change it to disabled and try again.
I had it working for a few launches with enabled before, then all of a sudden it started crashing again, and i had to launch it a few times each way then all of a sudden it started working again. Its just kinda finkle in some way, probably cuz the build of Wine is very... not standard... not sure.
nothing wrong with that X11 log... and usually there will not be, its not worth looking at unless the game fails to launch at all.
hard to say what to look at. Best bet is just make a post of the wine log on pastebin.com and give the link here, and I can look through it and see if anything catches my eye.
I'll give that a try, and I've got the lastwinerun here. I really appreciate the help. Thanks
ETA IT WORKED!
Started up no problem as soon as I enabled it.
Dude, you are so full of awesome. *hugs*
Anyhow, I've been having some issues with windowed mode & fullscreen. See, in full screen it's perfect- yet for some reason the dock still pops up... also if I cmd-tab out, I am unable to tab back in, despite hearing the music go on in the background. Spaces also doesn't show it. If I set it to start in windowed mode- there doesn't seem to be a way to resize the window- thus two/three cm of the window are out of the workspace- so no boff skills (!?!?!?); any thoughts on how to deal with this?
It's so awesome looking, and if I can figure out how to get it fixed, I can delete win7
THANKS
AFA
OSX 10.6.2
2.5ghz IC2Duo
4gb sdram
GEforce 8600
ok... so apparently some video cards need glsl on, and some need it off? thats great... lol. I'll have to add an easy option to switch it on and off in WineskinSettings.app
Fullscreen mode in Xquartz isn't the best thing in the world.... at times I have seen it not launch right and the dock still pops up. I haven't found a fix for it, but *usually* when I run it it works fine with no dock or top menu bar. I'm going to be updating Xquartz in Wineskin as soon as xorg server 1.8 is done, which should fix many issues, hopefully this as well.
Xquartz doesn't like spaces...
CMD Tab worked? not supposed to if its launched right. CMD+H will hide it. CMD+TAB or clicking on the running icon in the dock (not the launcher icon) will get back into it.
true window mode works very poorly and has several issues. The current "window" mode in Wineskin is using the game as fullscreen, and running it in a virtual desktop window. The game sees it as fullscreen. Using it like this, its best to set the window resolution to what you want in WineskinSettings.app before starting the game.
I'm still looking into Window problems as I can, seeing if there is a better and more stable way to really make it windowed. I suggest using Fullscreen at current resolution and using CMD+H to multitask.
I really can't thank you enough for the work you're doing here. I've been playing STO on a 1st gen Mac Pro (Dual Core 2.66, 4 gigs of ram nVidia 8800gt, Snow Leopard 10.6.2) through your shell and it's working great so far, even running the game at my full display resolution 2560x1600. I've also have an intel iMac and aMacbookPro that I plan to test very soon
If you ever want a digital paint portrait of your captain, just say the word. My little way of saying thanks (you can check out my work through the link in my sig).
(I usually play on my Windows 7 box)
EDIT: All fixed up.. pesky firewall... bypassed. hehe
On page 20 I mentioned that I always get the "Ooops not again - here comes the Cryptic error box" every single time I tried to launch the game. I checked permissions, write access to the files, everything I could think of. Still the crashes continued. I copied over the game from my Bootcamp disk once more, starting from scratch. Still nothing. Same crash. Rinse and repeat, using beta 2, beta 3 and beta 4. Nothing. Crash galore. At one point the Wine error log showed me that the game tried to link to my Bootcamp disk (which is physically on another disk).
I gave up this route, and downloaded the client from the STO website instead - installing it with the WineskinSettings, all according to the instructions. Still the crashes continued.
Then I read your answer to a post above me here now, where you suggested to change "UseGLSL"0"disabled" to "enabled" in the file user.reg. Then...
Eureka...:D
Problem solved. I logged straight into the game (the game insisted on my fullscreen being set to 1024 x 768, I changed this to my display's native 1920 x 1200). Running full-screen, maxed out all the graphical settings available (some are grayed out), and the game runs beautifully. Thank you so much doh123
I'll still continue to play via Bootcamp because of the superior graphics, but now I can play STO also via OS X whenever I am multitasking, or just get the urgency to play without the hassle of booting into Windows.
What I wonder about now though is if this error I had, and others here too, is related to the nVidia GeForce 8xxx series. We all seem to use different kinds of Macs, but it looks like the nVidia cards are a common factor.
For reference, here is my system information:
Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro3,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 8
L2 Cache (per processor): 12 MB
Memory: 10 GB
Bus Speed: 1.6 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
Type: Display
Bus: PCIe
Slot: Slot-1
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 512 MB
Running on an Apple 23" Cinema HD (1920 x 1200)
Cannot thank you enough. Using the "enabled" setting did the trick and it works great. Now, I just have to get through work so I can start playing!
Also, wanted to acknowledge NetSlut for suggesting we donate to your Wineskin project to show our support (for example $10USD). Due to some fat fingering on my part, I accidentally posted two donation messages. I'm happy to make good on both of them. Let me know if you don't get my $20.
Here's doh123's wineskin donation link: http://sourceforge.net/project/project_donations.php?group_id=292583.
Much obliged to you, the community and, of course, Cryptic, especially CodeRanger.
Thanks,
Plato
Edit:
Model Name: MacBook
Model Identifier: MacBook5,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 2 GB
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M:
Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
System Version: Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L30)
Kernel Version: Darwin 9.8.0
Thank you so much for all of your work!