Oh, sorry, I should've clarified a bit... this was a fan-submitted thing on the Trek subreddit. This isn't an official picture.
The only thing the fan did was take the still image of T'Kuvma, and added a TNG-style goatee and dreads. To me, this shows that the "different" look of the Klingons isn't that different at all. I don't think there is a need of bringing in a subspecies or subjugated species argument to explain the House of T'Kuvma... we're not dealing with Remans, here.
Take away his razor blade, and give him some updated uniform, and he looks like a Klingon to me!
Correct. Though even with the glabrousness i maintain they would not be given a second glance had they appeared as minor or even secondary characters in TNG/DS9.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I dunno, I always kinda hated watching the space orcs. I'd probably like Star Trek a lot less if most of the eps had Klingons in them. And Worf doesn't count.
I dunno, I always kinda hated watching the space orcs. I'd probably like Star Trek a lot less if most of the eps had Klingons in them. And Worf doesn't count.
I've always been more of a fan of the Romulans myself.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
So, the latest from the "calm the eff down, haters" news desk...
Here is a picture of what T'Kuvma would look like, before he got his Dollar Shave Club subscription:
Looks like a "normal," non-virus-riddled Klink to me!
still has WAY too much makeup and padding on the face, especially around the eyes which ultimately results in the look of a klingon with a massive case of constipation
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
So, the latest from the "calm the eff down, haters" news desk...
Here is a picture of what T'Kuvma would look like, before he got his Dollar Shave Club subscription:
Looks like a "normal," non-virus-riddled Klink to me!
still has WAY too much makeup and padding on the face, especially around the eyes which ultimately results in the look of a klingon with a massive case of constipation
Yeah, he's still an ugly Klingon, but at least he's recognizably Klingon. Although, strictly speaking, I bet you could put the same hair and goatee on anyone and they'd be recognizably Klingon. I'm not sure the makeup adds much.
So, the latest from the "calm the eff down, haters" news desk...
Here is a picture of what T'Kuvma would look like, before he got his Dollar Shave Club subscription:
Looks like a "normal," non-virus-riddled Klink to me!
still has WAY too much makeup and padding on the face, especially around the eyes which ultimately results in the look of a klingon with a massive case of constipation
Yeah, he's still an ugly Klingon, but at least he's recognizably Klingon. Although, strictly speaking, I bet you could put the same hair and goatee on anyone and they'd be recognizably Klingon. I'm not sure the makeup adds much.
I think that was the point of the fan who made this on Reddit.
It's not perfect, but having this picture in my head will make it far less jarring to watch these Klingons.
still has WAY too much makeup and padding on the face, especially around the eyes which ultimately results in the look of a klingon with a massive case of constipation
It dosn't really help that he has his eyes closed.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
> @artan42 said: > shadowfang240 wrote: » > > still has WAY too much makeup and padding on the face, especially around the eyes which ultimately results in the look of a klingon with a massive case of constipation > > > > > It dosn't really help that he has his eyes closed.
He does have kinda happy Manga eyes. Anybody else seeing that? XD i mean like ^^ this
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
i wonder how one of the guys from mythbusters got to be one of the few to see advanced viewings of discovery
Grant's also a big deal in the world of Hollywood special effects - for instance, I think he was on the team that made BB-8 function in SW:TFA. He cut his teeth doing special effects of various sorts for Industrial Light & Magic, with a specialty in robotics and remote-controlled devices.
And of course it doesn't hurt that he's got a pretty substantial Twitter following...
i wonder how one of the guys from mythbusters got to be one of the few to see advanced viewings of discovery
He plays Sulu in Star Trek Continues. Vic and Michele were invited to the preview (probably by Rekha Sharma) it's not surprizing that Grant would also be included as their Plus One
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"I fight for the Users!" - Tron
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
To keep conspiracy theories going (I know, I'm mean ) - none of these quoted could show their face any more if they'd talk negatively about DSC. Perhaps they're even contractually obligated?
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
To keep conspiracy theories going (I know, I'm mean ) - none of these quoted could show their face any more if they'd talk negatively about DSC. Perhaps they're even contractually obligated?
Exactly
"I fight for the Users!" - Tron
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
I wonder if these people tweeting are "paid hatchet jobs" too?
No, you see, they're not putting down the other show, so not 'hatchet jobs'. Specially Selected Audience where politeness near-guarantees favorable reactions, though, is a different matter entirely
"I fight for the Users!" - Tron
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
I wonder if these people tweeting are "paid hatchet jobs" too?
Lol..those guys havent been collecting any paychecks for awhile so who knows! However, the amount of overhype CBS is throwing out does make me a bit cautious...
As for Golden Age... Bwahahahahahahahahaha I don't consider reboots and remakes the pinacle of story-telling, and when films like Batman Vs Superman get throughly panned, it's clear that 'the new stuff' isn't doing much better... I know, that's just a couple of examples, but seriously, this is far from a Golden Age of story-telling...
I'm sorry your range of tastes is so limited you have no idea what good stuff is being made out there.
Good stuff stopped being made years ago. Even when a show was good exec found a way to scrap. The last 5 years have been bad. Nothing original and poor story telling. Actually I was wrong. There is a very great show at the moment: The Orville. Now that's Star Trek.
To keep conspiracy theories going (I know, I'm mean ) - none of these quoted could show their face any more if they'd talk negatively about DSC. Perhaps they're even contractually obligated?
I would be willing to believe that they would be discouraged to say negative things. But I think forcing them to actually sell a TRIBBLE show awesome would be going too far.
As was pointed out - some of them have a financial interest due to their convention activity for Star Trek to remain popular, but if they turn out to be liars that have no clue what makes a good TV show, I think that would also hurt their convention activities.
So if you find that twitter-affine Trek alumni have seen this and write nothing at all, you might have a hint.
Either way, it doesn't really matter, because in less than a week, we can see for ourselves. Yeah!
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Honestly, only nitpicky people have actually been complaining so far, so it seems pretty good to me
Not really. I'm as nitpicky as all hell, but I'm excited by the trailers so far and hopeful from what I hear and read.
Edit: what I read elsewhere, what I read here just makes me sad and sarcastic.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
As for Golden Age... Bwahahahahahahahahaha I don't consider reboots and remakes the pinacle of story-telling, and when films like Batman Vs Superman get throughly panned, it's clear that 'the new stuff' isn't doing much better... I know, that's just a couple of examples, but seriously, this is far from a Golden Age of story-telling...
I'm sorry your range of tastes is so limited you have no idea what good stuff is being made out there.
Good stuff stopped being made years ago. Even when a show was good exec found a way to scrap. The last 5 years have been bad. Nothing original and poor story telling. Actually I was wrong. There is a very great show at the moment: The Orville. Now that's Star Trek.
Good stuff stopped being made years ago. Even when a show was good exec found a way to scrap. The last 5 years have been bad. Nothing original and poor story telling. Actually I was wrong. There is a very great show at the moment: The Orville. Now that's Star Trek.
Translation: Television made whilst I was in my nostalgic period was good, TV made after this period is somehow worse and not at all me changing.
But yes you are wrong. About Orville anyway, it's not Star Trek. If you look really closely it's not licenced by CBS under the Star Trek brand and is thus not Star Trek.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
To keep conspiracy theories going (I know, I'm mean ) - none of these quoted could show their face any more if they'd talk negatively about DSC. Perhaps they're even contractually obligated?
I would be willing to believe that they would be discouraged to say negative things. But I think forcing them to actually sell a **** show awesome would be going too far.
As was pointed out - some of them have a financial interest due to their convention activity for Star Trek to remain popular, but if they turn out to be liars that have no clue what makes a good TV show, I think that would also hurt their convention activities.
So if you find that twitter-affine Trek alumni have seen this and write nothing at all, you might have a hint.
Either way, it doesn't really matter, because in less than a week, we can see for ourselves. Yeah!
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There is also the social factor involved. A lot of these guys work together on multiple projects and tend to be close friends. It is pretty easy to bruise egos and damage those relationships when given criticism of somebodies work. For better or worse the age we currently live in seems to have less tolerance for associating with people of differing philosophies. In the entertainment industry in particular there seems to be an inquisition of sorts going on to purge those who commit thoughtcrime.
This seems to be why the entertainment industry reacts so negatively to audience criticism as of late. I can't recall a time when writers, actors, and studio executives have been so openly hostile towards their audiences. Of course this might be a chicken and egg scenario, with social media simply exposing pre-existing anti-social attitudes.
Good stuff stopped being made years ago. Even when a show was good exec found a way to scrap. The last 5 years have been bad. Nothing original and poor story telling. Actually I was wrong. There is a very great show at the moment: The Orville. Now that's Star Trek.
Translation: Television made whilst I was in my nostalgic period was good, TV made after this period is somehow worse and not at all me changing.
But yes you are wrong. About Orville anyway, it's not Star Trek. If you look really closely it's not licenced by CBS under the Star Trek brand and is thus not Star Trek.
Yeah... it's comments like "The Orville is more Star Trek than Discovery" that make me want to openly root for FOX to cancel it.
And, I truly don't want to do that. At worst, I want to simply not care about it. If you like The Orville, that's great. Go enjoy it.
I suppose there will be room on the Discovery bandwagon for all the naysayers... ready for the b**ching to end.
Good stuff stopped being made years ago. Even when a show was good exec found a way to scrap. The last 5 years have been bad. Nothing original and poor story telling. Actually I was wrong. There is a very great show at the moment: The Orville. Now that's Star Trek.
Translation: Television made whilst I was in my nostalgic period was good, TV made after this period is somehow worse and not at all me changing.
But yes you are wrong. About Orville anyway, it's not Star Trek. If you look really closely it's not licenced by CBS under the Star Trek brand and is thus not Star Trek.
Yeah... it's comments like "The Orville is more Star Trek than Discovery" that make me want to openly root for FOX to cancel it.
You have to see claims like that just as a sign that people like different things about Star Trek, and just because we all seemed to be one happy Star Trek loving family, we might not actually have liked it for the same reason and are more different than we thought. Heck, it could mean that what Star Trek is has actually changed over time, and you don't neccessarily like every change about it, but you still see the key to Star Trek as the one thing that attracted you first.
And of course, tastes change, too. I've been influenced by shows like Babyon 5 or Battlestar Galactica, too, and I think that affected my tastes and preferences and also how I see Star Trek.
TNG is still the show that taught me (my) humanistic values. But I find DS9 grayer morality and the harder choices they made more attractive.
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Good stuff stopped being made years ago. Even when a show was good exec found a way to scrap. The last 5 years have been bad. Nothing original and poor story telling. Actually I was wrong. There is a very great show at the moment: The Orville. Now that's Star Trek.
Translation: Television made whilst I was in my nostalgic period was good, TV made after this period is somehow worse and not at all me changing.
But yes you are wrong. About Orville anyway, it's not Star Trek. If you look really closely it's not licenced by CBS under the Star Trek brand and is thus not Star Trek.
Yeah... it's comments like "The Orville is more Star Trek than Discovery" that make me want to openly root for FOX to cancel it.
You have to see claims like that just as a sign that people like different things about Star Trek, and just because we all seemed to be one happy Star Trek loving family, we might not actually have liked it for the same reason and are more different than we thought. Heck, it could mean that what Star Trek is has actually changed over time, and you don't neccessarily like every change about it, but you still see the key to Star Trek as the one thing that attracted you first.
And of course, tastes change, too. I've been influenced by shows like Babyon 5 or Battlestar Galactica, too, and I think that affected my tastes and preferences and also how I see Star Trek.
TNG is still the show that taught me (my) humanistic values. But I find DS9 grayer morality and the harder choices they made more attractive.
All of that is fine. It's the snap judgements of a show that hasn't even premiered yet that drive me nuts, LOL.
Sunday needs to get here, LOL, so we can actually start talking about substantial things about this show. Then, the comparisons and ratings of the show can ACTUALLY begin, legitimately.
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Oh, sorry, I should've clarified a bit... this was a fan-submitted thing on the Trek subreddit. This isn't an official picture.
The only thing the fan did was take the still image of T'Kuvma, and added a TNG-style goatee and dreads. To me, this shows that the "different" look of the Klingons isn't that different at all. I don't think there is a need of bringing in a subspecies or subjugated species argument to explain the House of T'Kuvma... we're not dealing with Remans, here.
Take away his razor blade, and give him some updated uniform, and he looks like a Klingon to me!
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I've always been more of a fan of the Romulans myself.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
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still has WAY too much makeup and padding on the face, especially around the eyes which ultimately results in the look of a klingon with a massive case of constipation
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Yeah, he's still an ugly Klingon, but at least he's recognizably Klingon. Although, strictly speaking, I bet you could put the same hair and goatee on anyone and they'd be recognizably Klingon. I'm not sure the makeup adds much.
I think that was the point of the fan who made this on Reddit.
It's not perfect, but having this picture in my head will make it far less jarring to watch these Klingons.
It dosn't really help that he has his eyes closed.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
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He does have kinda happy Manga eyes. Anybody else seeing that? XD i mean like ^^ this
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Till next week, I shall hate these people for their privileged life.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
More positive buzz from TrekMovie: https://trekmovie.com/2017/09/19/star-trek-discovery-red-carpet-premiere-live-coverage/
And of course it doesn't hurt that he's got a pretty substantial Twitter following...
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"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
Lol..those guys havent been collecting any paychecks for awhile so who knows!
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Good stuff stopped being made years ago. Even when a show was good exec found a way to scrap. The last 5 years have been bad. Nothing original and poor story telling. Actually I was wrong. There is a very great show at the moment: The Orville. Now that's Star Trek.
As was pointed out - some of them have a financial interest due to their convention activity for Star Trek to remain popular, but if they turn out to be liars that have no clue what makes a good TV show, I think that would also hurt their convention activities.
So if you find that twitter-affine Trek alumni have seen this and write nothing at all, you might have a hint.
Either way, it doesn't really matter, because in less than a week, we can see for ourselves. Yeah!
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Not really. I'm as nitpicky as all hell, but I'm excited by the trailers so far and hopeful from what I hear and read.
Edit: what I read elsewhere, what I read here just makes me sad and sarcastic.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Translation: Television made whilst I was in my nostalgic period was good, TV made after this period is somehow worse and not at all me changing.
But yes you are wrong. About Orville anyway, it's not Star Trek. If you look really closely it's not licenced by CBS under the Star Trek brand and is thus not Star Trek.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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There is also the social factor involved. A lot of these guys work together on multiple projects and tend to be close friends. It is pretty easy to bruise egos and damage those relationships when given criticism of somebodies work. For better or worse the age we currently live in seems to have less tolerance for associating with people of differing philosophies. In the entertainment industry in particular there seems to be an inquisition of sorts going on to purge those who commit thoughtcrime.
This seems to be why the entertainment industry reacts so negatively to audience criticism as of late. I can't recall a time when writers, actors, and studio executives have been so openly hostile towards their audiences. Of course this might be a chicken and egg scenario, with social media simply exposing pre-existing anti-social attitudes.
Yeah... it's comments like "The Orville is more Star Trek than Discovery" that make me want to openly root for FOX to cancel it.
And, I truly don't want to do that. At worst, I want to simply not care about it. If you like The Orville, that's great. Go enjoy it.
I suppose there will be room on the Discovery bandwagon for all the naysayers... ready for the b**ching to end.
And of course, tastes change, too. I've been influenced by shows like Babyon 5 or Battlestar Galactica, too, and I think that affected my tastes and preferences and also how I see Star Trek.
TNG is still the show that taught me (my) humanistic values. But I find DS9 grayer morality and the harder choices they made more attractive.
All of that is fine. It's the snap judgements of a show that hasn't even premiered yet that drive me nuts, LOL.
Sunday needs to get here, LOL, so we can actually start talking about substantial things about this show. Then, the comparisons and ratings of the show can ACTUALLY begin, legitimately.