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Da big *NEW TREK TV SHOW* thread!
thegrandnagus1
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Most of us are excited about the new Trek show. And it's great to hear news about it's progress. But instead of posting a new thread every time there is some update, how about we keep the conversation together and ongoing right here. So if you have some thoughts, feedback, or updates on the new show, post them below! 
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The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
from what i read on it, they are picking up elements from that film, it may not be set in that time line, rumor mill is obviously out of control at this time.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Hey, @thegrandnagus1, I have an idea... do you think you could occasionally update the first post in this thread with news updates? Maybe not even provide links, but a quick rundown of "what we know so far"? Just a thought.
All that being said I watched " The captains" and thought it was a GREAT tribute to not only Gene Roddenberry but Star Trek itself. Rod seems like a perfect fit to head this new show, along with the director or Arguably two of the BEST Original series movies, and a writer who has extensive experience writing for different Trek series.
The next step is going to be deciding WHEN to place the new show in the Trek Universe. It is highly unlikely to take place in the JJ Verse because Paramount Owns the JJ verse, so will it be in between one of the existing Trek series, or take place after the end of Voyager? I'm hoping for the last option. 50-75 years after Voyager would allow much more leeway in terms of story, and wouldn't put the writers into a narrow box, like they had with Enterprise.
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Definitely. I just hope we don't get a "too many cooks in the kitchen" issue with egos bumping into each other
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
"Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science!" - Agatha Heterodyne
It doesn't have to be about time travel, but that could be one way to do it.
I think CBS this time around, is willing to put a fairly large sum of money into this project (or so it seems), so this format could work.
Perhaps have three or four different crews/ships in different time periods that end up interacting with each other through ways they don't even realize.
Say the earliest crew goes to a planet for the first time and interacts with the inhabitants in the 22nd century, then in the next episode we get to see what developed from that First Contact with a crew from the 23rd century and the changes that have occurred.
Then we jump another hundred years in the next episode, and a 24th century crew goes back to see what eventually became of the inhabitants and their culture.
Stuff like that would certainly be something we have not really seen before and be "different".
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Nicholas Meyer could be a bit of that, too, but at least he directed a very well recieved Trek movie.
Movies....he also wrote Wrath of Khan, the Voyage Home and directed and wrote Undiscovered Country
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Hmm... I could see something like American Horror Story, which I believe tells a different story each season, and keeps the same actors, but changes them into different roles each season (isn't that the show Angela Bassett is on?). A format similar to True Detective could be interesting, too... same idea, but I think they totally recast every season.
But, jumping around every episode? Sounds expensive, for one thing, and I'm almost certain the new show will be arc-based.
I was just reading TrekCore's comments about the Rod Roddenberry hire... oh, internet... why can't you distinguish between Roberto Orci, Damon Lindelof, Alex Kurtzman, and JJ Abrams?
Someone posted that they have a source at CBS (LOLZ! Of course, SHOCKER, there was no proof given to back this claim up.) that claims Alex Kurtzman has no creative control over the show... and there was much rejoicing in Whoville. Except... he's co-creator of the damn show, and he's likely the one who hired Bryan Fuller. No creative control, my left foot.
Remember, kids... Alex Kurtzman is not Orci, Abrams, or Lindelof. Kurtzman has co-created a number of hit shows, from Fringe to the few hits he's created for CBS. This is why he, and his production company, likely got the gig. It's also why he's likely handed off showrunning to Fuller... Kurtzman has a lot of shows on his plate. Shoot, Michael Pillar was showrunner for DS9 for the first two seasons, until he handed off to Ira Behr... so, I wouldn't be shocked if Fuller and/or Meyer step away, once the show is going strong. But, I digress...
Don't write Kurtzman off, or dismiss him (or the show) simply because of the past two movies. And don't believe everything you read on the internet, of course.
/end rant
Yep. Great points.
Yes, some of those shows were with Abrams & Bad Robot, and I think one or two were also with Orci (Fringe & Hawaii Five-O, if memory serves)... but enough of them are independent from both men.
Now, I suppose it's "true" that Kurtzman won't have creative control in the series... but, that's the point of the showrunner position. But, I'm willing to bet that Kurtzman worked with CBS Studios closely on the hire of Fuller... that's how Hollywood works, as far as I've observed.
And, turning my attention back to Roddenberry... it's why I'm not doing cartwheels about the hire. Rod doesn't seem like the creative type (not a slight on him, mind you). I doubt he'd ever be in a position to become showrunner if/when Fuller steps away.
But I like Too Many Cooks!
... regardless, I'll watch it. I'll enjoy it. I'll have fun reading about how it will inevitably ruin Star Trek forever.
Maybe it'll even turn out like this.
I don't think most watchers are really looking for accurate technical sophistication, they mostly just want to enjoy the story and not have to think to hard about the technobabble.
... and stare at the pretty girls.
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PS RE your Cloud Atlas-like idea... I like it
Your first idea would go a long way to filling in canon gaps, however it would put the show in a narrow creative box, like Enterprise, and we all know how that turned out.
2nd option would be the best imo. They could make it 20-30 years after TNG/DS9/VOY. This would allow them to go in almost any direction they wanted, while at the same time leave open the doors to the new crew visiting DS9, ( unlikely I know, but could still be fun) Would also allow for random references to what came before. Im in process of rewatching DS9 and I have to say it has TONS of references to not only TNG but also TOS. While TNG only had a few TOS references, this is what Roddenberry apparently wanted. Voyager had some TNG cast appearances, and some small tie ins with the dominion war arc. I believe the new show should chart its own course, but NEVER be afraid to look behind at what came before. Balancing the two can be tricky, but as a fan of all things Trek, it is what I want in the new show!
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