And, in a move that should probably surprise no one, CBS is splitting up the first season. Episodes 1-8 will appear on All Access every Sunday from September 24th through November, while Episodes 9-15 will begin streaming in January. Yes, it's lame, but CBS also has to convince new subs to stick around. It's only going to infuriate the haters even more.
I don't really care what CBS does, but how will Netflix handle this?
Well, you should care what CBS does, to some degree. Yes, they're the streaming outlet for US customers... but, obviously, it's the same company that is actually making the show. In other words, it's THEIR call on how their show is distributed, whether it be CBS All Access or Netflix or whatever
My guess is that Netflix (International) will have a very similar release schedule.
The latest chapter in the Star Trek saga has its premiere date -- with the 15-episode season set to be released in two chapters. Read below for specifics.
U.S. Schedule
Star Trek: Discovery will launch in the U.S. on Sunday, September 24 with a broadcast premiere that night on the CBS Television Network airing at 8:30-9:30 PM, ET/PT (time approximate following NFL Football and 60 Minutes). The series premiere will also be available on-demand on CBS All Access and the second episode of the series will be available on the service that same night immediately following the broadcast premiere.
After premiere night, all new episodes will be available on-demand weekly on Sundays exclusively for CBS All Access subscribers in the U.S. The 15-episode season will be released in two chapters. The first eight episodes will run from Sunday, Sept. 24 through Sunday, Nov. 5. The season will then resume with the second chapter debuting in January 2018.
Canada Schedule
Space Channel will launch the first two episodes of Star Trek: Discovery on Sunday, September 24 at 8:30 PM ET. The first eight episodes will run from Sunday, September 24 through Sunday, November 5. The season will then resume with the second chapter in January 2018. Every episode will also be available to Space subscribers on the newly launched Space GO app, in addition to being available on Space.ca and participating On Demand channels. Star Trek: Discovery will also stream exclusively in Canada on CraveTV, with full scheduling details to be released in the coming weeks.
Rest of the World Schedule
Netflix will launch Star Trek: Discovery on Monday, September 25 to countries outside of the U.S. and Canada. The first eight episodes will run from Monday, September 25 through Monday, November 6 with the second chapter in January 2018.
Your pain runs deep.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Space Barbie Extraordinaire. Got a question about Space Barbie? Just ask.
Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
Excellent. It appears the Discovery will also be using the blue uniforms and the modern looking bridge. +1000 points for not being grey cardboard.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I think the captain's chair looks reasonably TOS-y, though But those uniforms are ugly
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
I think the captain's chair looks reasonably TOS-y, though But those uniforms are ugly
Aww. I like them bits nice to see vibrant colours and not the mainly black uniforms of the 24th century.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Aww. I like them bits nice to see vibrant colours and not the mainly black uniforms of the 24th century.
Colour is one thing, but the cut is awfull. And having the rank insignia wrap arounr the shoulders like this so you're sweating on them seems terribly forced "novelle" instead of just using sleeve ranks they did approximately ten years later OR right now on other ships.
But we'll see. Maybe they explain that these uniforms are all somewhat reminiscent of Earth Starfleet and that the cage showed the first UFP Starfleet uniforms.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Aww. I like them bits nice to see vibrant colours and not the mainly black uniforms of the 24th century.
Colour is one thing, but the cut is awfull. And having the rank insignia wrap arounr the shoulders like this so you're sweating on them seems terribly forced "novelle" instead of just using sleeve ranks they did approximately ten years later OR right now on other ships.
But we'll see. Maybe they explain that these uniforms are all somewhat reminiscent of Earth Starfleet and that the cage showed the first UFP Starfleet uniforms.
I do prefer the sleeve ranks and they should have used them here. But I like the cut. It seems practical, like something a real organisation would wear. Not tight like the TMP or TNG jumpsuits or baggy and bland like the TOS or VGR/DS9 costumes. I think the metalic highlights are a bit too much though, it makes them look a bit too ceremonial and dress uniform like.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
So much for my idea/hope that Captain Lorca and the Discovery would be in keeping with the aesthetic of The Cage Looks like CBS're just going ahead with a full reboot. Best of luck with that I like how the repeating logo motif is 3d, rather than just a imprint like the JJ Uniforms, that's a nice touch
"I fight for the Users!" - Tron
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
So much for my idea/hope that Captain Lorca and the Discovery would be in keeping with the aesthetic of The Cage Looks like CBS're just going ahead with a full reboot. Best of luck with that I like how the repeating logo motif is 3d, rather than just a imprint like the JJ Uniforms, that's a nice touch
Really? A reboot? Wow, Who's your source? Or is it just more inability to accept that this series is not the Cage and therefor dosn't have to look like the Cage?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
So much for my idea/hope that Captain Lorca and the Discovery would be in keeping with the aesthetic of The Cage Looks like CBS're just going ahead with a full reboot. Best of luck with that I like how the repeating logo motif is 3d, rather than just a imprint like the JJ Uniforms, that's a nice touch
Really? A reboot? Wow, Who's your source? Or is it just more inability to accept that this series is not the Cage and therefor dosn't have to look like the Cage?
I don't need a source, when I can go by the evidence of my own eyes TOS established the look for this era through The Cage and The Menagerie. I can accept that they're going down a reboot line and just using the line about it being Prime to attract viewers, but to somehow reconsile that this series is set in the same Prime Timeline as The Cage, Nd that both this and The Cage are valid, is doublethink.
If they want to go in another direction to what was previously used and shown, that's fine, I don't have a problem with that notion. But I don't like the idea that they think they can just Say it's Prime and it Be Prime Just Because they're the IP holders. Sure, they Can do that, but what they're doing by doing that, is taking a massive TRIBBLE all over the existing IP and fandom, at the expense of their own project. IMO, that's not cool, and they really wanted to make something with a new look, they could just have made their own show. But that wouldn't necessarily have attracted Star Trek fans, and they Wanted/Needed Star Trek fans, to make their CBS Streaming flagship show float Don't get me wrong, I think it looks good. I'm just not sold on the idea of it being, what they're trying to tell everyone it is
"I fight for the Users!" - Tron
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
So much for my idea/hope that Captain Lorca and the Discovery would be in keeping with the aesthetic of The Cage Looks like CBS're just going ahead with a full reboot. Best of luck with that I like how the repeating logo motif is 3d, rather than just a imprint like the JJ Uniforms, that's a nice touch
Really? A reboot? Wow, Who's your source? Or is it just more inability to accept that this series is not the Cage and therefor dosn't have to look like the Cage?
I don't need a source, when I can go by the evidence of my own eyes TOS established the look for this era through The Cage and The Menagerie. I can accept that they're going down a reboot line and just using the line about it being Prime to attract viewers, but to somehow reconsile that this series is set in the same Prime Timeline as The Cage, Nd that both this and The Cage are valid, is doublethink.
If they want to go in another direction to what was previously used and shown, that's fine, I don't have a problem with that notion. But I don't like the idea that they think they can just Say it's Prime and it Be Prime Just Because they're the IP holders. Sure, they Can do that, but what they're doing by doing that, is taking a massive **** all over the existing IP and fandom, at the expense of their own project. IMO, that's not cool, and they really wanted to make something with a new look, they could just have made their own show. But that wouldn't necessarily have attracted Star Trek fans, and they Wanted/Needed Star Trek fans, to make their CBS Streaming flagship show float Don't get me wrong, I think it looks good. I'm just not sold on the idea of it being, what they're trying to tell everyone it is
I think you're confused. This is not 'The Cage', 'The Menagerie', or 'Where No Man Has Gone Before'. This is Star Trek: Discovery. We don't know what DSC looks like properly as we've only seen the trailer. We also don't know if the '10 years before Kirk and Spock' is literal (i.e. 10 years) or rounding (i.e. 9-13 years) so this could be pre-The Cage. Try wait for official confirmation before getting your nickers in a twist.
I know you probably threw this same childish fit when DS9 launched and despite being set at the same time as TNG they had different uniforms and ship bridges and styles and so on but I'd have thought you'd have got over it by now. DS9 was not a reboot, DSC is not a reboot until CBS says otherwise.
Expecting it too look like something it's not rather than what it is is a bit of a silly thing to do.
Daft little conspiracy theories about how the Illuminati CBS is hoodwinking us all into believing this is the PT when in reality the reptoids showrunners are rebooting but desperately need the support of the basement brigade True Trek FansTM even though they've made no secret of the fact the visuals and story will reflect the fact it's 2017 just detract from any point you may be desperately fishing for.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
So much for my idea/hope that Captain Lorca and the Discovery would be in keeping with the aesthetic of The Cage Looks like CBS're just going ahead with a full reboot. Best of luck with that I like how the repeating logo motif is 3d, rather than just a imprint like the JJ Uniforms, that's a nice touch
Really? A reboot? Wow, Who's your source? Or is it just more inability to accept that this series is not the Cage and therefor dosn't have to look like the Cage?
I don't need a source, when I can go by the evidence of my own eyes TOS established the look for this era through The Cage and The Menagerie. I can accept that they're going down a reboot line and just using the line about it being Prime to attract viewers, but to somehow reconsile that this series is set in the same Prime Timeline as The Cage, Nd that both this and The Cage are valid, is doublethink.
If they want to go in another direction to what was previously used and shown, that's fine, I don't have a problem with that notion. But I don't like the idea that they think they can just Say it's Prime and it Be Prime Just Because they're the IP holders. Sure, they Can do that, but what they're doing by doing that, is taking a massive **** all over the existing IP and fandom, at the expense of their own project. IMO, that's not cool, and they really wanted to make something with a new look, they could just have made their own show. But that wouldn't necessarily have attracted Star Trek fans, and they Wanted/Needed Star Trek fans, to make their CBS Streaming flagship show float Don't get me wrong, I think it looks good. I'm just not sold on the idea of it being, what they're trying to tell everyone it is
I think you're confused. This is not 'The Cage', 'The Menagerie', or 'Where No Man Has Gone Before'. This is Star Trek: Discovery. We don't know what DSC looks like properly as we've only seen the trailer. We also don't know if the '10 years before Kirk and Spock' is literal (i.e. 10 years) or rounding (i.e. 9-13 years) so this could be pre-The Cage. Try wait for official confirmation before getting your nickers in a twist.
I know you probably threw this same childish fit when DS9 launched and despite being set at the same time as TNG they had different uniforms and ship bridges and styles and so on but I'd have thought you'd have got over it by now. DS9 was not a reboot, DSC is not a reboot until CBS says otherwise.
Expecting it too look like something it's not rather than what it is is a bit of a silly thing to do.
Daft little conspiracy theories about how the Illuminati CBS is hoodwinking us all into believing this is the PT when in reality the reptoids showrunners are rebooting but desperately need the support of the basement brigade True Trek FansTM even though they've made no secret of the fact the visuals and story will reflect the fact it's 2017 just detract from any point you may be desperately fishing for.
Let's not go into that discussion again, it went to ugly places the last time. It's nice to have a neat, long thread devoted to DSC and not have it closed over a pointless debate.
I think I saw the Captain in another show. Awake perhaps? I liked the actor, and I also liked the work the Sarek actor has done, so I am eagerly waiting for September.
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
Let's not go into that discussion again, it went to ugly places the last time. It's nice to have a neat, long thread devoted to DSC and not have it closed over a pointless debate.
It'd be nice not to have to. I just feel compelled to defend Star Trek against Star Trek 'fans' so I think I'll keep doing it.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
So much for my idea/hope that Captain Lorca and the Discovery would be in keeping with the aesthetic of The Cage Looks like CBS're just going ahead with a full reboot. Best of luck with that I like how the repeating logo motif is 3d, rather than just a imprint like the JJ Uniforms, that's a nice touch
Really? A reboot? Wow, Who's your source? Or is it just more inability to accept that this series is not the Cage and therefor dosn't have to look like the Cage?
I don't need a source, when I can go by the evidence of my own eyes TOS established the look for this era through The Cage and The Menagerie. I can accept that they're going down a reboot line and just using the line about it being Prime to attract viewers, but to somehow reconsile that this series is set in the same Prime Timeline as The Cage, Nd that both this and The Cage are valid, is doublethink.
If they want to go in another direction to what was previously used and shown, that's fine, I don't have a problem with that notion. But I don't like the idea that they think they can just Say it's Prime and it Be Prime Just Because they're the IP holders. Sure, they Can do that, but what they're doing by doing that, is taking a massive **** all over the existing IP and fandom, at the expense of their own project. IMO, that's not cool, and they really wanted to make something with a new look, they could just have made their own show. But that wouldn't necessarily have attracted Star Trek fans, and they Wanted/Needed Star Trek fans, to make their CBS Streaming flagship show float Don't get me wrong, I think it looks good. I'm just not sold on the idea of it being, what they're trying to tell everyone it is
I think you're confused. This is not 'The Cage', 'The Menagerie', or 'Where No Man Has Gone Before'. This is Star Trek: Discovery. We don't know what DSC looks like properly as we've only seen the trailer. We also don't know if the '10 years before Kirk and Spock' is literal (i.e. 10 years) or rounding (i.e. 9-13 years) so this could be pre-The Cage. Try wait for official confirmation before getting your nickers in a twist.
I know you probably threw this same childish fit when DS9 launched and despite being set at the same time as TNG they had different uniforms and ship bridges and styles and so on but I'd have thought you'd have got over it by now. DS9 was not a reboot, DSC is not a reboot until CBS says otherwise.
Expecting it too look like something it's not rather than what it is is a bit of a silly thing to do.
Daft little conspiracy theories about how the Illuminati CBS is hoodwinking us all into believing this is the PT when in reality the reptoids showrunners are rebooting but desperately need the support of the basement brigade True Trek FansTM even though they've made no secret of the fact the visuals and story will reflect the fact it's 2017 just detract from any point you may be desperately fishing for.
No, you're just making complex statements (aka saying something and assuming its true because its been said) I've said many times, that I was very excited at the notion of DS 9 (actually my favorite series) and every other Trek show and series. They were also, all upfront pre-release about what they were about, and what they were doing.
If you want to be literalist in your belief that it isn't a reboot until CBS Says So, go right ahead and think that way Those of us who have moved beyond of the concrete operational stage, can grasp concepts and theories other than our own opinions, and discuss them without having to try and ridicule them as 'conspiracy theories', rather than address them as equally valid concepts
If CBS didn't want people to keep making the connection to TOS and The Cage, they shouldn't've been so definite in their statement. They said 10 years, so it can't be deliberate when you want it to be, and flexible when you want it to be either. It wither is, or it is not.
Again, I don't really care what it's like, I just think that they're coming at it from the wrong end of the timeline for the look they're going for I think they've quite likely written themselves into a corner, and I don't think it will be as well received as they hope it will be. Of course, only time will tell
"I fight for the Users!" - Tron
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
So much for my idea/hope that Captain Lorca and the Discovery would be in keeping with the aesthetic of The Cage Looks like CBS're just going ahead with a full reboot. Best of luck with that I like how the repeating logo motif is 3d, rather than just a imprint like the JJ Uniforms, that's a nice touch
Really? A reboot? Wow, Who's your source? Or is it just more inability to accept that this series is not the Cage and therefor dosn't have to look like the Cage?
I don't need a source, when I can go by the evidence of my own eyes TOS established the look for this era through The Cage and The Menagerie. I can accept that they're going down a reboot line and just using the line about it being Prime to attract viewers, but to somehow reconsile that this series is set in the same Prime Timeline as The Cage, Nd that both this and The Cage are valid, is doublethink.
If they want to go in another direction to what was previously used and shown, that's fine, I don't have a problem with that notion. But I don't like the idea that they think they can just Say it's Prime and it Be Prime Just Because they're the IP holders. Sure, they Can do that, but what they're doing by doing that, is taking a massive **** all over the existing IP and fandom, at the expense of their own project. IMO, that's not cool, and they really wanted to make something with a new look, they could just have made their own show. But that wouldn't necessarily have attracted Star Trek fans, and they Wanted/Needed Star Trek fans, to make their CBS Streaming flagship show float Don't get me wrong, I think it looks good. I'm just not sold on the idea of it being, what they're trying to tell everyone it is
I think you're confused. This is not 'The Cage', 'The Menagerie', or 'Where No Man Has Gone Before'. This is Star Trek: Discovery. We don't know what DSC looks like properly as we've only seen the trailer. We also don't know if the '10 years before Kirk and Spock' is literal (i.e. 10 years) or rounding (i.e. 9-13 years) so this could be pre-The Cage. Try wait for official confirmation before getting your nickers in a twist.
I know you probably threw this same childish fit when DS9 launched and despite being set at the same time as TNG they had different uniforms and ship bridges and styles and so on but I'd have thought you'd have got over it by now. DS9 was not a reboot, DSC is not a reboot until CBS says otherwise.
Expecting it too look like something it's not rather than what it is is a bit of a silly thing to do.
Daft little conspiracy theories about how the Illuminati CBS is hoodwinking us all into believing this is the PT when in reality the reptoids showrunners are rebooting but desperately need the support of the basement brigade True Trek FansTM even though they've made no secret of the fact the visuals and story will reflect the fact it's 2017 just detract from any point you may be desperately fishing for.
No, you're just making complex statements (aka saying something and assuming its true because its been said) I've said many times, that I was very excited at the notion of DS 9 (actually my favorite series) and every other Trek show and series. They were also, all upfront pre-release about what they were about, and what they were doing.
If you want to be literalist in your belief that it isn't a reboot until CBS Says So, go right ahead and think that way Those of us who have moved beyond of the concrete operational stage, can grasp concepts and theories other than our own opinions, and discuss them without having to try and ridicule them as 'conspiracy theories', rather than address them as equally valid concepts
If CBS didn't want people to keep making the connection to TOS and The Cage, they shouldn't've been so definite in their statement. They said 10 years, so it can't be deliberate when you want it to be, and flexible when you want it to be either. It wither is, or it is not.
Again, I don't really care what it's like, I just think that they're coming at it from the wrong end of the timeline for the look they're going for I think they've quite likely written themselves into a corner, and I don't think it will be as well received as they hope it will be. Of course, only time will tell
Okay. Continue spouting nonsense based on hypothesis whilst the grown ups those at the 'concrete operational stage' wait until actual evidence before forming a concrete opinion.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
So much for my idea/hope that Captain Lorca and the Discovery would be in keeping with the aesthetic of The Cage Looks like CBS're just going ahead with a full reboot. Best of luck with that I like how the repeating logo motif is 3d, rather than just a imprint like the JJ Uniforms, that's a nice touch
Really? A reboot? Wow, Who's your source? Or is it just more inability to accept that this series is not the Cage and therefor dosn't have to look like the Cage?
I don't need a source, when I can go by the evidence of my own eyes TOS established the look for this era through The Cage and The Menagerie. I can accept that they're going down a reboot line and just using the line about it being Prime to attract viewers, but to somehow reconsile that this series is set in the same Prime Timeline as The Cage, Nd that both this and The Cage are valid, is doublethink.
If they want to go in another direction to what was previously used and shown, that's fine, I don't have a problem with that notion. But I don't like the idea that they think they can just Say it's Prime and it Be Prime Just Because they're the IP holders. Sure, they Can do that, but what they're doing by doing that, is taking a massive **** all over the existing IP and fandom, at the expense of their own project. IMO, that's not cool, and they really wanted to make something with a new look, they could just have made their own show. But that wouldn't necessarily have attracted Star Trek fans, and they Wanted/Needed Star Trek fans, to make their CBS Streaming flagship show float Don't get me wrong, I think it looks good. I'm just not sold on the idea of it being, what they're trying to tell everyone it is
I think you're confused. This is not 'The Cage', 'The Menagerie', or 'Where No Man Has Gone Before'. This is Star Trek: Discovery. We don't know what DSC looks like properly as we've only seen the trailer. We also don't know if the '10 years before Kirk and Spock' is literal (i.e. 10 years) or rounding (i.e. 9-13 years) so this could be pre-The Cage. Try wait for official confirmation before getting your nickers in a twist.
I know you probably threw this same childish fit when DS9 launched and despite being set at the same time as TNG they had different uniforms and ship bridges and styles and so on but I'd have thought you'd have got over it by now. DS9 was not a reboot, DSC is not a reboot until CBS says otherwise.
Expecting it too look like something it's not rather than what it is is a bit of a silly thing to do.
Daft little conspiracy theories about how the Illuminati CBS is hoodwinking us all into believing this is the PT when in reality the reptoids showrunners are rebooting but desperately need the support of the basement brigade True Trek FansTM even though they've made no secret of the fact the visuals and story will reflect the fact it's 2017 just detract from any point you may be desperately fishing for.
No, you're just making complex statements (aka saying something and assuming its true because its been said) I've said many times, that I was very excited at the notion of DS 9 (actually my favorite series) and every other Trek show and series. They were also, all upfront pre-release about what they were about, and what they were doing.
If you want to be literalist in your belief that it isn't a reboot until CBS Says So, go right ahead and think that way Those of us who have moved beyond of the concrete operational stage, can grasp concepts and theories other than our own opinions, and discuss them without having to try and ridicule them as 'conspiracy theories', rather than address them as equally valid concepts
If CBS didn't want people to keep making the connection to TOS and The Cage, they shouldn't've been so definite in their statement. They said 10 years, so it can't be deliberate when you want it to be, and flexible when you want it to be either. It wither is, or it is not.
Again, I don't really care what it's like, I just think that they're coming at it from the wrong end of the timeline for the look they're going for I think they've quite likely written themselves into a corner, and I don't think it will be as well received as they hope it will be. Of course, only time will tell
Okay. Continue spouting nonsense based on hypothesis whilst the grown ups those at the 'concrete operational stage' wait until actual evidence before forming a concrete opinion.
I've given a variety of hypotheses of why Discovery looks the way it does, both from the perspective of a viewer, and several in-story perspectives. If you want to keep excusing it and ignoring the fact that what they're presenting, doesn't line up with what they're saying it is, then as I said, go right ahead and think that
"I fight for the Users!" - Tron
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
This series was never, NEVER, going to look like TOS & that does not make it a reboot.
Just like TWOK wasn't a reboot despite retconning Khan into a product of genetic engineering instead of selective breeding & declaring Chekov was on the Enterprise when Khan was.
Fair enough
"I fight for the Users!" - Tron
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
TOS set the style for TOS, then changed several times. And part of the design aesthetic of TOS was miscelaneous plumbing parts attached to the walls. The purpose of the brightly colored TOS uniforms was less an aesthetic value and more an attempt to make use of Color TV technology which was still new in the 1960s. Perfect recreation of that look was never going to happen. Well, outside of an homage episode, at least.
The idea that a modern production would even attempt to recreate the TOS look is an odd one. Even TNG didn't do that, and we had half-a-dozen style upgrades between then and Voyager. DS9 ran concurrently with TNG and had its own take on the visual aesthetics.
So I can't understand why anyone ever entertained the idea that an aesthetic from 1964 would even be considered in developing a show for 2017.
Do I personally agree with their choices? Well, I've seen about two minutes of random scenery, so I lack the information to judge if it all comes together. The theme I get is the dark, grim trek of late DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise, but that is only an impression. I hope Discovery leaves the Goth look behind, as it served Enterprise so well.
Space Barbie Extraordinaire. Got a question about Space Barbie? Just ask.
Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
... It is to busy for my tastes, far to many things going on... especially around the shoulders. Although I should admit I am rather fussy about the franchise's uniforms and don't really care for about half of them.
-TOS was just to rough, much like most of the visual and audio fx of the era. The older pilot episode uniforms were soundly awful, there is just no way around it.
-TMP's was just horribly bland but had an interesting design. If they had used a better color palette it might have been better.
-TWOK's while generally nice, I feel it could have used a little something around the edges of the collar.
-TNG's various uniforms were all over the place. I was never a fan of the asymmetric waistline design, the early version could definitely have benefitted from a collar, and the later version was way to baggy on most of the cast.
-DS9/VOY's uniform started the trend of trying to remove the color from the uniforms by drowning them in a sea of black. At least the design looked functional, as opposed to TNG's uniforms.
-FC's uniforms have always rubbed me the wrong way, sucking all the life out the previous VOY uniform by going for a black and grey look. I just don't understand the tendency to try and drain away all the colors in the movies.
-ENT's uniforms were an interesting departure, better in concept than execution though. Cluttered with far to many pockets, and the blue kind of ruined things for the science division's stripes.
-JJ Trek oddly got things spot on with its retro TOS uniforms, taking a classic design and improving it without ruining the retro feel. A shame the Enterprise herself didn't get the same care. The dress uniforms also seemed to evoke the TMP uniform with minor improvements, much better than the typical Trek dress uniform. Beyond's uniforms were a mixed bag for me, the standard duty uniform's collar doesn't really work for me, and the away team uniform is way to busy with a ton of different textures all over the place.
TOS set the style for TOS, then changed several times. And part of the design aesthetic of TOS was miscelaneous plumbing parts attached to the walls. The purpose of the brightly colored TOS uniforms was less an aesthetic value and more an attempt to make use of Color TV technology which was still new in the 1960s. Perfect recreation of that look was never going to happen. Well, outside of an homage episode, at least.
The idea that a modern production would even attempt to recreate the TOS look is an odd one. Even TNG didn't do that, and we had half-a-dozen style upgrades between then and Voyager. DS9 ran concurrently with TNG and had its own take on the visual aesthetics.
So I can't understand why anyone ever entertained the idea that an aesthetic from 1964 would even be considered in developing a show for 2017.
Do I personally agree with their choices? Well, I've seen about two minutes of random scenery, so I lack the information to judge if it all comes together. The theme I get is the dark, grim trek of late DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise, but that is only an impression. I hope Discovery leaves the Goth look behind, as it served Enterprise so well.
Honestly I feel the criticism of the TOS sets is largely superficial. I personally think if you slapped on some fresh paint and polish, and swapped out the old monitor images for flashier modern ones most people wouldn't even realize it was designed in the 60s.
Comments
Well, you should care what CBS does, to some degree. Yes, they're the streaming outlet for US customers... but, obviously, it's the same company that is actually making the show. In other words, it's THEIR call on how their show is distributed, whether it be CBS All Access or Netflix or whatever
My guess is that Netflix (International) will have a very similar release schedule.
The latest chapter in the Star Trek saga has its premiere date -- with the 15-episode season set to be released in two chapters. Read below for specifics.
U.S. Schedule
Star Trek: Discovery will launch in the U.S. on Sunday, September 24 with a broadcast premiere that night on the CBS Television Network airing at 8:30-9:30 PM, ET/PT (time approximate following NFL Football and 60 Minutes). The series premiere will also be available on-demand on CBS All Access and the second episode of the series will be available on the service that same night immediately following the broadcast premiere.
After premiere night, all new episodes will be available on-demand weekly on Sundays exclusively for CBS All Access subscribers in the U.S. The 15-episode season will be released in two chapters. The first eight episodes will run from Sunday, Sept. 24 through Sunday, Nov. 5. The season will then resume with the second chapter debuting in January 2018.
Canada Schedule
Space Channel will launch the first two episodes of Star Trek: Discovery on Sunday, September 24 at 8:30 PM ET. The first eight episodes will run from Sunday, September 24 through Sunday, November 5. The season will then resume with the second chapter in January 2018. Every episode will also be available to Space subscribers on the newly launched Space GO app, in addition to being available on Space.ca and participating On Demand channels. Star Trek: Discovery will also stream exclusively in Canada on CraveTV, with full scheduling details to be released in the coming weeks.
Rest of the World Schedule
Netflix will launch Star Trek: Discovery on Monday, September 25 to countries outside of the U.S. and Canada. The first eight episodes will run from Monday, September 25 through Monday, November 6 with the second chapter in January 2018.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
Excellent. It appears the Discovery will also be using the blue uniforms and the modern looking bridge. +1000 points for not being grey cardboard.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
Aww. I like them bits nice to see vibrant colours and not the mainly black uniforms of the 24th century.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
Colour is one thing, but the cut is awfull. And having the rank insignia wrap arounr the shoulders like this so you're sweating on them seems terribly forced "novelle" instead of just using sleeve ranks they did approximately ten years later OR right now on other ships.
But we'll see. Maybe they explain that these uniforms are all somewhat reminiscent of Earth Starfleet and that the cage showed the first UFP Starfleet uniforms.
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
I do prefer the sleeve ranks and they should have used them here. But I like the cut. It seems practical, like something a real organisation would wear. Not tight like the TMP or TNG jumpsuits or baggy and bland like the TOS or VGR/DS9 costumes. I think the metalic highlights are a bit too much though, it makes them look a bit too ceremonial and dress uniform like.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
Really? A reboot? Wow, Who's your source? Or is it just more inability to accept that this series is not the Cage and therefor dosn't have to look like the Cage?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
I don't need a source, when I can go by the evidence of my own eyes
If they want to go in another direction to what was previously used and shown, that's fine, I don't have a problem with that notion. But I don't like the idea that they think they can just Say it's Prime and it Be Prime Just Because they're the IP holders. Sure, they Can do that, but what they're doing by doing that, is taking a massive TRIBBLE all over the existing IP and fandom, at the expense of their own project. IMO, that's not cool, and they really wanted to make something with a new look, they could just have made their own show. But that wouldn't necessarily have attracted Star Trek fans, and they Wanted/Needed Star Trek fans, to make their CBS Streaming flagship show float
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
My character Tsin'xing
I think you're confused. This is not 'The Cage', 'The Menagerie', or 'Where No Man Has Gone Before'. This is Star Trek: Discovery. We don't know what DSC looks like properly as we've only seen the trailer. We also don't know if the '10 years before Kirk and Spock' is literal (i.e. 10 years) or rounding (i.e. 9-13 years) so this could be pre-The Cage. Try wait for official confirmation before getting your nickers in a twist.
I know you probably threw this same childish fit when DS9 launched and despite being set at the same time as TNG they had different uniforms and ship bridges and styles and so on but I'd have thought you'd have got over it by now. DS9 was not a reboot, DSC is not a reboot until CBS says otherwise.
Expecting it too look like something it's not rather than what it is is a bit of a silly thing to do.
Daft little conspiracy theories about how the Illuminati CBS is hoodwinking us all into believing this is the PT when in reality the reptoids showrunners are rebooting but desperately need the support of the basement brigade True Trek FansTM even though they've made no secret of the fact the visuals and story will reflect the fact it's 2017 just detract from any point you may be desperately fishing for.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
Let's not go into that discussion again, it went to ugly places the last time.
I think I saw the Captain in another show. Awake perhaps? I liked the actor, and I also liked the work the Sarek actor has done, so I am eagerly waiting for September.
It'd be nice not to have to. I just feel compelled to defend Star Trek against Star Trek 'fans' so I think I'll keep doing it.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
If you want to be literalist in your belief that it isn't a reboot until CBS Says So, go right ahead and think that way
If CBS didn't want people to keep making the connection to TOS and The Cage, they shouldn't've been so definite in their statement. They said 10 years, so it can't be deliberate when you want it to be, and flexible when you want it to be either. It wither is, or it is not.
Again, I don't really care what it's like, I just think that they're coming at it from the wrong end of the timeline for the look they're going for
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
Okay. Continue spouting nonsense based on hypothesis whilst the grown ups those at the 'concrete operational stage' wait until actual evidence before forming a concrete opinion.
#CBSissupressingthetruth
#DSCisarebootbecausereasons
#teachthecontroversy
#CBSistheIlluminati
#itsnotaconspiricytheoryjustbecauseIhavenoevidence
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
Will do, Chief ;p
I've given a variety of hypotheses of why Discovery looks the way it does, both from the perspective of a viewer, and several in-story perspectives. If you want to keep excusing it and ignoring the fact that what they're presenting, doesn't line up with what they're saying it is, then as I said, go right ahead and think that
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
Fair enough
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
More stuff to hate. Wooh.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
The idea that a modern production would even attempt to recreate the TOS look is an odd one. Even TNG didn't do that, and we had half-a-dozen style upgrades between then and Voyager. DS9 ran concurrently with TNG and had its own take on the visual aesthetics.
So I can't understand why anyone ever entertained the idea that an aesthetic from 1964 would even be considered in developing a show for 2017.
Do I personally agree with their choices? Well, I've seen about two minutes of random scenery, so I lack the information to judge if it all comes together. The theme I get is the dark, grim trek of late DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise, but that is only an impression. I hope Discovery leaves the Goth look behind, as it served Enterprise so well.
Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
... It is to busy for my tastes, far to many things going on... especially around the shoulders. Although I should admit I am rather fussy about the franchise's uniforms and don't really care for about half of them.
-TOS was just to rough, much like most of the visual and audio fx of the era. The older pilot episode uniforms were soundly awful, there is just no way around it.
-TMP's was just horribly bland but had an interesting design. If they had used a better color palette it might have been better.
-TWOK's while generally nice, I feel it could have used a little something around the edges of the collar.
-TNG's various uniforms were all over the place. I was never a fan of the asymmetric waistline design, the early version could definitely have benefitted from a collar, and the later version was way to baggy on most of the cast.
-DS9/VOY's uniform started the trend of trying to remove the color from the uniforms by drowning them in a sea of black. At least the design looked functional, as opposed to TNG's uniforms.
-FC's uniforms have always rubbed me the wrong way, sucking all the life out the previous VOY uniform by going for a black and grey look. I just don't understand the tendency to try and drain away all the colors in the movies.
-ENT's uniforms were an interesting departure, better in concept than execution though. Cluttered with far to many pockets, and the blue kind of ruined things for the science division's stripes.
-JJ Trek oddly got things spot on with its retro TOS uniforms, taking a classic design and improving it without ruining the retro feel. A shame the Enterprise herself didn't get the same care. The dress uniforms also seemed to evoke the TMP uniform with minor improvements, much better than the typical Trek dress uniform. Beyond's uniforms were a mixed bag for me, the standard duty uniform's collar doesn't really work for me, and the away team uniform is way to busy with a ton of different textures all over the place.
Honestly I feel the criticism of the TOS sets is largely superficial. I personally think if you slapped on some fresh paint and polish, and swapped out the old monitor images for flashier modern ones most people wouldn't even realize it was designed in the 60s.