FFS they sent a Nebula Class starship after the Prometheus... a pure warship! I honestly don't think they would send a mere science ship to retrieve a warship.
1: Nebulas are awesome.
2: Clearly the Nebula would have won if not for the Doctor.
Or it was the only ship in range or the only ship fast enough to catch up to the Prometheus.
I am a mature woman and I wear them IRL. I prefer them to ponytails, because my hair doesn't get messy in wind.
If they're good enough for RL, they're good enough for a game.
As a guy with long hair I once tried pigtails (for the lolz) and they almost took my eyes out swinging. A ponytail is much easier in the wind as long as you can tie the fringe back.
I have to say while I accept the "skimpy mirrorverse" as it's supposed to look deviant and "naughty" (you know, that's all evil), the short-shorts version is just ridiculous. And I adore the original TOS uniforms and skirts to a degree, as I have posted in another matter already - it's all a matter of taste and style. And that thing in the promo picture has neither, I'm sorry - the debate of "appropriate" uniform and protection is, sadly, moot in video games that are not The Elder Scrolls or Warhammer based. It's still made for teenage boys...
I don't know. Obviously both the mini skirt and shorts are stupid but I'd still give the shorts an edge over the skirt, for a start you can go up ladders infront of your own troops .
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I'd love if we got the one on the left.....the one on the right well all I can say is...please cryptic burn all concept art relating to that outfit and never ever make anything that even closely resembles that horrendous monstrosity.
"Seductive" doesn't bother me as much as the "cute" one, though I still don't use it. It doesn't fit the professional image I aim for with my crews. I have got to think there are more possible stances that could be put into the game that would work for a professional look...
My main character wears a mirror uniform, the last thing I want to aim for is a professional look! I have males to trick and ranks to climb here, I don't have time for this professional nonsense! I'm all for more stances but leave in the ones that have some real purpose, choice, all choice.
I am a mature woman and I wear them IRL. I prefer them to ponytails, because my hair doesn't get messy in wind.
If they're good enough for RL, they're good enough for a game.
Agreed, except I don't personally do pigtail style, they would look silly on me! But yeah, these hairstyles have real world usages, they don't hurt anyone and I would never question anyone who decided to go to work with a pigtail, celebrate individuality! (There are no real long braided styles in STO sadly though).
I don't know. Obviously both the mini skirt and shorts are stupid but I'd still give the shorts an edge over the skirt, for a start you can go up ladders infront of your own troops .
That last part seems more like a problem with oneself! You can still go up ladders in a skirt infront of your own troops if you want, it's their problem. If you want to wear a skirt and go up ladders without anyone looking and your underwears, have some shorts on underneath! There are people who only need to see a women in tight trousers to stare at the back, should all tight clothing for women be removed from STO because of that? That would be insane!
Besides, if your troops look, it means they need more discipline! If you just don't like them, use it as a reason to shove them out the airlock!
I don't know. Obviously both the mini skirt and shorts are stupid but I'd still give the shorts an edge over the skirt, for a start you can go up ladders infront of your own troops .
That last part seems more like a problem with oneself! You can still go up ladders in a skirt infront of your own troops if you want, it's their problem. If you want to wear a skirt and go up ladders without anyone looking and your underwears, have some shorts on underneath! There are people who only need to see a women in tight trousers to stare at the back, should all tight clothing for women be removed from STO because of that? That would be insane!
Besides, if your troops look, it means they need more discipline! If you just don't like them, use it as a reason to shove them out the airlock!
Basically, this That's why we can wear pantyhose. If we could control what kind of panties our chars wear there would also be more options to tastefully tackle the "problem". And last but not least, if anybody has a problem with my ham look the other way or admit you like what you see
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Considering it's the 25th century, I hardly think the disciplined members of Starfleet will allow themselves the childish indulgence of being distracted by glimpsing up someone's skirt, especially in a situation where such is inevitable.
C'mon, guys, seriously. I think that Starfleet officers are at least better than that, even if we in the present time are not.
Considering it's the 25th century, I hardly think the disciplined members of Starfleet will allow themselves the childish indulgence of being distracted by glimpsing up someone's skirt, especially in a situation where such is inevitable.
C'mon, guys, seriously. I think that Starfleet officers are at least better than that, even if we in the present time are not.
After all, they got holodecks. Holodecks. If you have some imagination, most of the stuff you see in your everyday business doesn't excite you anymore, probably
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Considering it's the 25th century, I hardly think the disciplined members of Starfleet will allow themselves the childish indulgence of being distracted by glimpsing up someone's skirt, especially in a situation where such is inevitable.
C'mon, guys, seriously. I think that Starfleet officers are at least better than that, even if we in the present time are not.
I was referring to the evil Terrans not Starfleet.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Considering it's the 25th century, I hardly think the disciplined members of Starfleet will allow themselves the childish indulgence of being distracted by glimpsing up someone's skirt, especially in a situation where such is inevitable.
C'mon, guys, seriously. I think that Starfleet officers are at least better than that, even if we in the present time are not.
I was referring to the evil Terrans not Starfleet.
My comment was not directed at you, but the two or so posts above mine.
I don't understand why this had to be a discussion. Novelty uniforms aside, the Prime Universe is all for equality and not immediately objectifying women. Only the players do that - the game treats everyone pretty well equally, down to characters that hit on you regardless of species, sex, or orientation, and the inclusion of (albeit only one) male entertainer in what was basically a strip club/bar.
The Mirror Universe is not the Prime Universe. It's evil, it's bad, it's not the elevated example of humanity. It's us at some of our worst. Why is it surprising, or even bad, that an example of the worst would present itself as such?
There's nothing inherently wrong with skimpy uniforms anyway - I'm sure there are plenty of women playing STO who would like those uniforms, and implying dressing sexy is somehow wrong or bad is edging close to legitimate TRIBBLE shaming, which is also bad.
There's no issue besides the one people are making out of it.
My comment was not directed at you, but the two or so posts above mine.
I see, sorry.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I hope we woman can access the male version of that uniform.. and not only have to have cropped top versions available.
Having that said,.. I love both versions. So, how are these going to be available?
My thought on this topic exactly. (Well. I'm not sure I love them, because the cleavage is ridiculous. But they look cool enough in general that I'd like to have them.)
and implying dressing sexy is somehow wrong or bad is edging close to legitimate TRIBBLE shaming, which is also bad.
Not if you're pointing out how situationally inappropriate it is whilst also complaining about skimpy males.
I standardize the male AND female uniforms for each of my captains and their crews; I don't do different ones at all based on gender.
Each of my captains has off-duty clothing choices, but as Garak would probably say, it seems many people have forgotten what a fine sartorial talent can do with clothes that DO leave something to the imagination, to make them elegant and attractive.
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Considering it's the 25th century, I hardly think the disciplined members of Starfleet will allow themselves the childish indulgence of being distracted by glimpsing up someone's skirt, especially in a situation where such is inevitable.
Plus according to Gene Roddenberry in the TMP novelization (I think), people in the 23rd century usually went around naked on Earth. So they probably wouldn't give a TRIBBLE about skimpy outfits.
Considering it's the 25th century, I hardly think the disciplined members of Starfleet will allow themselves the childish indulgence of being distracted by glimpsing up someone's skirt, especially in a situation where such is inevitable.
Plus according to Gene Roddenberry in the TMP novelization (I think), people in the 23rd century usually went around naked on Earth. So they probably wouldn't give a TRIBBLE about skimpy outfits.
I don't even see how the weather would permit that. Humans have worn clothes for so long that we've evolved to have no protection against the elements without it.
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I love some people in this thread... "I'm all about choice.....REMOVE THIS TRIBBLE CAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT"
Here's an option, if you don't like it... ya know.... don't use it... Don't try and force your opinion down throats to deny other people the option.
gave the more disciplined Cardies an extra advantage.
You're talking about the people who lost one of their bases to a barely organized bunch of rebels, never were able to take it back, then lost the leader of their alliance to said rebels, and in this game couldn't stop said rebels from reforming their empire and probably enslaving them with future tech.
Besides the Cardassians have never been that impressive, lets not forget that the prime universe version were introduced getting the asses handed to them by one science vessel, and the Mirror version didn't seem to be that different.
That "barely organized bunch of rebels" had a fair amount of outside-context support from the prime universe in direct violation of the Prime Directive, up to and including having Prime Sisko command ISS Defiant for them at one point and teach them how to fly the Defiant-class for greatest effect. Mostly, though, I attribute it to the Alliance having become complacent, the way the Prime Cardassians didn't take the Maquis seriously until it was way too late to do anything about it (or Starfleet pre-Wolf 359).
As for the Empire's resurgence, I justified that in a fan fiction work, The Wrong Reflection, by explaining that the Terrans took heavy advantage of the cloaking tech they were given by the Prime Ferengi and used cloakships in infrastructure attacks against the Alliance.
And by the way? The Enterprise isn't a science vessel. The Galaxy-class may be called an "explorer", but it's also Starfleet's heaviest combat unit of the era: Gul Macet threw his patrol cruiser at the Starfleet equivalent of an Iowa-class battleship, a ship well above Trager's weight class in both defenses and firepower. It's absolutely unsurprising that Picard thrashed him.
I love some people in this thread... "I'm all about choice.....REMOVE THIS TRIBBLE CAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT"
Here's an option, if you don't like it... ya know.... don't use it... Don't try and force your opinion down throats to deny other people the option.
Here's an option: Don't put words in my mouth. I stated an opinion based on story logic for why the "uniform", using the word lightly, makes no sense, just like Mirror Leeta herself makes no sense. The only argument anybody made in favor was "it's smexy". On the off chance it shows up in game on player characters, I fully intend to just roll my eyes and keep playing.
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Skirts.... Heels... Short Shorts... Crop Tops.... Can we have male versions for these specific items....
Sure a bunch of guys may get off on looking at lady bits... but where's the love for ladies, and guys, that like looking at effeminate mens? Where's my TNG Skant and Floppy, rubbery Go-go Boots?
We don't want what the Feds have. We want the equivalent. We want fairer treatment. Concern, desire, greed to some extent, and passionate belief that the enough people would buy KDF items to make it worth Cryptic's while.
Considering it's the 25th century, I hardly think the disciplined members of Starfleet will allow themselves the childish indulgence of being distracted by glimpsing up someone's skirt, especially in a situation where such is inevitable.
Plus according to Gene Roddenberry in the TMP novelization (I think), people in the 23rd century usually went around naked on Earth. So they probably wouldn't give a TRIBBLE about skimpy outfits.
I don't even see how the weather would permit that. Humans have worn clothes for so long that we've evolved to have no protection against the elements without it.
You mean the weather they have technology to control?
Considering it's the 25th century, I hardly think the disciplined members of Starfleet will allow themselves the childish indulgence of being distracted by glimpsing up someone's skirt, especially in a situation where such is inevitable.
Plus according to Gene Roddenberry in the TMP novelization (I think), people in the 23rd century usually went around naked on Earth. So they probably wouldn't give a TRIBBLE about skimpy outfits.
I don't even see how the weather would permit that. Humans have worn clothes for so long that we've evolved to have no protection against the elements without it.
You mean the weather they have technology to control?
I doubt that control would go to the extent of making the entire planet not have seasons, or not ever allowing a storm to happen. I would think that would end up doing more ecosystem damage than it's worth. As an example in the 21st century, we have paid severely for an earlier philosophy about fighting wildfires wherein any fire was seen as a bad thing. Instead, because nature isn't allowed to complete the process often enough, insane amounts of detritus gather on the forest floor that once an uncontrolled wildfire starts, either because of lightning or some careless or malicious individual, the results are far harder to stop and far more devastating than they would've been otherwise. Let's not even touch what the effects of messing with the weather TOO much are on animals. So I would think that to avoid TRIBBLE up the planet from all the intervention, some bad or unpleasant weather would have to be allowed to happen.
So, that point made, I, for one, would not relish the thought of a Russian winter, even if any truly destructive storms could be avoided, without all of the proper clothing to keep me warm. Even thinking about that is too cold. O_O
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...And by the way? The Enterprise isn't a science vessel. The Galaxy-class may be called an "explorer", but it's also Starfleet's heaviest combat unit of the era: Gul Macet threw his patrol cruiser at the Starfleet equivalent of an Iowa-class battleship, a ship well above Trager's weight class in both defenses and firepower. It's absolutely unsurprising that Picard thrashed him...
And no matter what anyone says, you do not send your weak ships out to explore areas no one has been to before, you send your battle worthy ships just in case, and have the weaker ships come up behind them to make in depth observations. However you do make sure these front line ships are aware their mission is not to shoot first.
...And by the way? The Enterprise isn't a science vessel. The Galaxy-class may be called an "explorer", but it's also Starfleet's heaviest combat unit of the era: Gul Macet threw his patrol cruiser at the Starfleet equivalent of an Iowa-class battleship, a ship well above Trager's weight class in both defenses and firepower. It's absolutely unsurprising that Picard thrashed him...
And no matter what anyone says, you do not send your weak ships out to explore areas no one has been to before, you send your battle worthy ships just in case, and have the weaker ships come up behind them to make in depth observations. However you do make sure these front line ships are aware their mission is not to shoot first.
Normally--and I suspect Macet did not do so for a reason--the Cardassians are observed to move in formation against larger targets rather than attack alone. I'm pretty sure Macet was intentionally trying to get Picard's attention to talk the situation out rather than seriously trying to solo a Galaxy (I also suspect he didn't have his weapons up to full). A formation of Galors as seen in DS9 can be a more serious foe to contend with.
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Skirts.... Heels... Short Shorts... Crop Tops.... Can we have male versions for these specific items....
Sure a bunch of guys may get off on looking at lady bits... but where's the love for ladies, and guys, that like looking at effeminate mens? Where's my TNG Skant and Floppy, rubbery Go-go Boots?
Skirts.... Heels... Short Shorts... Crop Tops.... Can we have male versions for these specific items....
Sure a bunch of guys may get off on looking at lady bits... but where's the love for ladies, and guys, that like looking at effeminate mens? Where's my TNG Skant and Floppy, rubbery Go-go Boots?
We don't want what the Feds have. We want the equivalent. We want fairer treatment. Concern, desire, greed to some extent, and passionate belief that the enough people would buy KDF items to make it worth Cryptic's while.
Why does anyone need a reason to dislike anything?
Only if they're advancing their personal tastes as a valid reason to limit other peoples' options.
Ding ding ding
You always need a reason to dislike something, even if it's only a very simple one. Disliking something for no reason suggests you haven't actually put any thought into it. You don't necessarily have to explain why you dislike something - it's not like you're taking a test or running for office - but if you don't, be prepared for people to assume you're just being a child. Being able to articulate your position is much more dignified and intelligent. You might even find common ground with people who largely disagree with you otherwise, which is a great place to start trying to reach an understanding.
But this is the internet, so obviously we can't have any of that.
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Or it was the only ship in range or the only ship fast enough to catch up to the Prometheus.
As a guy with long hair I once tried pigtails (for the lolz) and they almost took my eyes out swinging. A ponytail is much easier in the wind as long as you can tie the fringe back.
I don't know. Obviously both the mini skirt and shorts are stupid but I'd still give the shorts an edge over the skirt, for a start you can go up ladders infront of your own troops
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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My main character wears a mirror uniform, the last thing I want to aim for is a professional look! I have males to trick and ranks to climb here, I don't have time for this professional nonsense! I'm all for more stances but leave in the ones that have some real purpose, choice, all choice.
Agreed, except I don't personally do pigtail style, they would look silly on me! But yeah, these hairstyles have real world usages, they don't hurt anyone and I would never question anyone who decided to go to work with a pigtail, celebrate individuality! (There are no real long braided styles in STO sadly though).
That last part seems more like a problem with oneself! You can still go up ladders in a skirt infront of your own troops if you want, it's their problem. If you want to wear a skirt and go up ladders without anyone looking and your underwears, have some shorts on underneath! There are people who only need to see a women in tight trousers to stare at the back, should all tight clothing for women be removed from STO because of that? That would be insane!
Besides, if your troops look, it means they need more discipline! If you just don't like them, use it as a reason to shove them out the airlock!
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C'mon, guys, seriously. I think that Starfleet officers are at least better than that, even if we in the present time are not.
After all, they got holodecks. Holodecks. If you have some imagination, most of the stuff you see in your everyday business doesn't excite you anymore, probably
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I was referring to the evil Terrans not Starfleet.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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My comment was not directed at you, but the two or so posts above mine.
The Mirror Universe is not the Prime Universe. It's evil, it's bad, it's not the elevated example of humanity. It's us at some of our worst. Why is it surprising, or even bad, that an example of the worst would present itself as such?
There's nothing inherently wrong with skimpy uniforms anyway - I'm sure there are plenty of women playing STO who would like those uniforms, and implying dressing sexy is somehow wrong or bad is edging close to legitimate TRIBBLE shaming, which is also bad.
There's no issue besides the one people are making out of it.
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Not if you're pointing out how situationally inappropriate it is whilst also complaining about skimpy males.
I see, sorry.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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My thought on this topic exactly. (Well. I'm not sure I love them, because the cleavage is ridiculous. But they look cool enough in general that I'd like to have them.)
Only if they're advancing their personal tastes as a valid reason to limit other peoples' options.
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I standardize the male AND female uniforms for each of my captains and their crews; I don't do different ones at all based on gender.
Each of my captains has off-duty clothing choices, but as Garak would probably say, it seems many people have forgotten what a fine sartorial talent can do with clothes that DO leave something to the imagination, to make them elegant and attractive.
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Plus according to Gene Roddenberry in the TMP novelization (I think), people in the 23rd century usually went around naked on Earth. So they probably wouldn't give a TRIBBLE about skimpy outfits.
I don't even see how the weather would permit that. Humans have worn clothes for so long that we've evolved to have no protection against the elements without it.
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Here's an option, if you don't like it... ya know.... don't use it... Don't try and force your opinion down throats to deny other people the option.
That "barely organized bunch of rebels" had a fair amount of outside-context support from the prime universe in direct violation of the Prime Directive, up to and including having Prime Sisko command ISS Defiant for them at one point and teach them how to fly the Defiant-class for greatest effect. Mostly, though, I attribute it to the Alliance having become complacent, the way the Prime Cardassians didn't take the Maquis seriously until it was way too late to do anything about it (or Starfleet pre-Wolf 359).
As for the Empire's resurgence, I justified that in a fan fiction work, The Wrong Reflection, by explaining that the Terrans took heavy advantage of the cloaking tech they were given by the Prime Ferengi and used cloakships in infrastructure attacks against the Alliance.
And by the way? The Enterprise isn't a science vessel. The Galaxy-class may be called an "explorer", but it's also Starfleet's heaviest combat unit of the era: Gul Macet threw his patrol cruiser at the Starfleet equivalent of an Iowa-class battleship, a ship well above Trager's weight class in both defenses and firepower. It's absolutely unsurprising that Picard thrashed him.
Here's an option: Don't put words in my mouth. I stated an opinion based on story logic for why the "uniform", using the word lightly, makes no sense, just like Mirror Leeta herself makes no sense. The only argument anybody made in favor was "it's smexy". On the off chance it shows up in game on player characters, I fully intend to just roll my eyes and keep playing.
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Sure a bunch of guys may get off on looking at lady bits... but where's the love for ladies, and guys, that like looking at effeminate mens? Where's my TNG Skant and Floppy, rubbery Go-go Boots?
You mean the weather they have technology to control?
I doubt that control would go to the extent of making the entire planet not have seasons, or not ever allowing a storm to happen. I would think that would end up doing more ecosystem damage than it's worth. As an example in the 21st century, we have paid severely for an earlier philosophy about fighting wildfires wherein any fire was seen as a bad thing. Instead, because nature isn't allowed to complete the process often enough, insane amounts of detritus gather on the forest floor that once an uncontrolled wildfire starts, either because of lightning or some careless or malicious individual, the results are far harder to stop and far more devastating than they would've been otherwise. Let's not even touch what the effects of messing with the weather TOO much are on animals. So I would think that to avoid TRIBBLE up the planet from all the intervention, some bad or unpleasant weather would have to be allowed to happen.
So, that point made, I, for one, would not relish the thought of a Russian winter, even if any truly destructive storms could be avoided, without all of the proper clothing to keep me warm. Even thinking about that is too cold. O_O
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And no matter what anyone says, you do not send your weak ships out to explore areas no one has been to before, you send your battle worthy ships just in case, and have the weaker ships come up behind them to make in depth observations. However you do make sure these front line ships are aware their mission is not to shoot first.
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Normally--and I suspect Macet did not do so for a reason--the Cardassians are observed to move in formation against larger targets rather than attack alone. I'm pretty sure Macet was intentionally trying to get Picard's attention to talk the situation out rather than seriously trying to solo a Galaxy (I also suspect he didn't have his weapons up to full). A formation of Galors as seen in DS9 can be a more serious foe to contend with.
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Sure. Why not?
P.S. I would love those mirror universe jackets, belt, and armbands. Although I'd like to have it also, I'd be fine not having the short shorts.
Ding ding ding
You always need a reason to dislike something, even if it's only a very simple one. Disliking something for no reason suggests you haven't actually put any thought into it. You don't necessarily have to explain why you dislike something - it's not like you're taking a test or running for office - but if you don't, be prepared for people to assume you're just being a child. Being able to articulate your position is much more dignified and intelligent. You might even find common ground with people who largely disagree with you otherwise, which is a great place to start trying to reach an understanding.
But this is the internet, so obviously we can't have any of that.
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