Well, the MU, being a universe where the Good Guys Are The Bad Guys, are obviously going to have elements to it that were going to be questionable to decent people: after all, they are bad guys.
So yeah, I'm not gonna raise my eyebrow at that little bit of Terran Empire trivia. It makes perfect sense considering how awful they are all around.
Do I seriously need a reason for disliking the skimpy outfits?
In other words you have no reason to dislike it
I'm not Jan, so I'm obviously just speaking for myself, and I'm not opposed to NPCs getting thematically appropriate uniforms that happen to be skimpy (which is the case with the Terran Empire, based on Mirror, Mirror), but I have a hard time putting objectifying uniforms on BOffs who are supposed to be professional members of a military and exploratory force. I am a man, but that doesn't mean I need to treat the women under my command like objects. And since we're not talking about real women, that shouldn't be taken as an indictment of players who choose differently; it just spoils my immersion to do so.
And they're completely impractical for military service of any kind. Even Starfleet pajamas provide more protection.
People focus on the "hotness" of Terran female uniforms and forget the context that the female servicemembers in the Imperial Starfleet were expected to sexually service their male crewmates. I believe it was said (maybe in "Mirror Mirror", maybe in "In a Mirror, Darkly") that female personnel actually fought over the post of "captain's woman", i.e. the commanding officer's personal f*cktoy, because it meant comparatively better treatment. That and casual '60s sexism on the part of the TOS producers is the only risible excuse for the Terran Empire's idea of a uniform.
We do not need this.
This...plus the the whole thing happened in the Mirror Universe may be true in ENT and TOS.....but I don't remember them ever dressing skimpy in DS9...not even Leeta dressed skimpy.
To these Mirror uniforms, my armored, automatic-weapon carrying captains all say "Yeeesssss. Come to my combat zone in nothing but a padded tank-top."
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While I won't dismiss the obvious sexism in the mirror uniform I'd like to point out that protection doesn't matter in the context of combat. If someone hits you in the stomach with a phaser blast at maximum setting I doubt it would make much of a difference if you had a normal shirt on or tanktop. Either way your going to get vaporized.
While I won't dismiss the obvious sexism in the mirror uniform I'd like to point out that protection doesn't matter in the convex of combat. If someone hits you in the stomach with a phaser blast at maximum setting I doubt it would make much of a difference if you had a normal shirt on or tanktop. Either way your going to get vaporized.
FINALLY! someone said it -.- yes the TNG pajamma warriors were so much better protected against a palm sized doodad that could disintegrate you....
I mean come on... they don't even wear ARMOR during WAR or even utilize personal deflector shields, which WORF managed to make out of a COMM BADGE while stuck on the holodeck.
This isn't about what's more/less protection or practical because in canon Trek there are plenty of points one can show where the existing uniforms are a joke, not even having special weather gear and whatnot.
Ultimately this is about if you have a bug up yer TRIBBLE about clothes that show any skin or not. The "sexism" argument is already thrown out the window here because the men got the same treatment!
now where's my new uniforms?! I'm so looking forward to these, tho I think I'll skip em on my Caitian.....
and the next question
Wheres the Klink/Rom versions?!
This...plus the the whole thing happened in the Mirror Universe may be true in ENT and TOS.....but I don't remember them ever dressing skimpy in DS9...not even Leeta dressed skimpy.
I always preferred the underboob dabo girl, at the time I was unaware of the existence of gravity defying tape so wondered how she pulled that off
At least TOS had women as officers that were equals to their male counterparts. Despite the fact that the TV networks tried to torpedo this progressive stance (Number One from the pilot episode anyone?). This is just one of the many things TOS did to make it such an icon in TV history.
Other than Number One--and as you point out that was successfully torpedoed--I do not count any female officer seen in TOS as being truly placed in a position of equality with the men until the movie era. Uhura on the five-year mission was portrayed as a glorified space secretary. Rand was similarly placed in a subservient role. Chapel was the stereotypical nurse, not a doctor. Those female officers ONLY filled traditional "women's roles" for the time period.
Now, getting to the time the TOS movies came out, then yes, we do see a significant improvement (Uhura's scenes in particular come to mind). But during the original run...I don't see this revolutionary stance TOS is supposed to have taken, at all.
TNG still had some questionable choices (Troi in the bridge bunny outfit, thankfully called out and changed after Roddenberry's influence on the show ended), but you at least had a female doctor and DID see female captains and admirals on other ships. I'm not the greatest fan of certain of Kira's uniforms, but what I DO definitely see is a strong characterization, REAL responsibilities, and the ability to take action herself without a man around, so mostly a win there. DS9 IMO got it closest to right. VOY...failed in so many ways in so many areas--Janeway being badly written, and then Seven of Nine clearly being there to satisfy a certain demographic. (No slam against Jeri Ryan...I've seen her in Boston Public and the point that made clear to me is that she is SO much better as an actress than the role she was given on Voyager.)
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But during the original run...I don't see this revolutionary stance TOS is supposed to have taken, at all.
Its not readily apparent to someone not born in the 60s or earlier but ToS having female OFFICERS at all was a jolt, adding to that a BLACK FEMALE as one? SCANDALOUS, and it sadly was... hell the biRacial kiss scene between Kirk and Uhura was nearly killed by network execs in the room, until they were distracted and the scene was filmed literally behind their backs.
You are correct in that the women were not given a lot of anything for development or to show off they were more than token pretty faces, but their very existence at the time was part of what was revolutionary. Its very hard to grasp for us born after that era, because we had plenty of strong women in life and media, but for its age it paved a road.
Its very hard to grasp for us born after that era, because we had plenty of strong women in life and media, but for its age it paved a road.
And this is precisely why, imho, even STO should and even could pave this road further, rather than remain stagnant on this topic, by blatantly skimpying/sexualizing female outfits as they, unfortunately, and quite often, do... Anyways.
Although, to be fair & cut them some slack, at least the Terran reputation armor doesn't do too badly in this regard.
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Love the new look. But can I just say that I think that hair for the male with the bang that only exist for ROM characters .. Plz let the other factions have it. It's not very particular Romulan and should be access able for other factions as well.
Its very hard to grasp for us born after that era, because we had plenty of strong women in life and media, but for its age it paved a road.
And this is precisely why, imho, even STO should and even could pave this road further, rather than remain stagnant on this topic, by blatantly skimpying/sexualizing female outfits as they, unfortunately, and quite often, do... Anyways.
Although, to be fair & cut them some slack, at least the Terran reputation armor doesn't do too badly in this regard.
In the case of the Terrans, at least, it has a rather specific explanation for it. Yeah, it's a reason we personally find distasteful and dehumanizing, but they are the bad guys after all. They are bound by definition to do things we're probably gonna hate. It's not even necessarily the devs approving of such things so much as they're writing to the character style.
Though on the flip side, every time I see a player running around in, like, revealing recreational wear outside of Risa or the comfort of their own starship quarters, I sigh deeply and heavily.
You're in Starfleet, guys. Show some bloody decorum. (and yes I know it is a game but come on).
And yeah, the new rep armor is fantastic. I feel like the KDF might have developed it as either a counter to, or their take on, Starfleet's M.A.C.O. armor, considering it essentially just looks like Klingon-style M.A.C.O. armor.
In evil universes, people wear less!
I'm not so much for the short short skirt, and the klingon looks like a walking computer, no pwn intended.
With that said, I am happy with my odyssey uniform and its only good Cryptic give us more various options to customize our characters.
I expect a mirror uniform in lobi store with the new lock box. It will be perfect for my mirror themed alt and his crew. The new one on the pictures looks cool, however I’d whish they had rather based it on the odyssey as currently “official” uniform.
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Hey, it wasn't just TOS with the sexualized uniforms.
DS9 - Kira
Unless you're referring to that abomination of a thing she wore in series 7 then how? She wore the standard Bajoran uniform to start with before switching to a one piece version without the shoulders.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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Its very hard to grasp for us born after that era, because we had plenty of strong women in life and media, but for its age it paved a road.
And this is precisely why, imho, even STO should and even could pave this road further, rather than remain stagnant on this topic, by blatantly skimpying/sexualizing female outfits as they, unfortunately, and quite often, do... Anyways.
Although, to be fair & cut them some slack, at least the Terran reputation armor doesn't do too badly in this regard.
You seem to be on quite the crusade about skimpy outfits, skimpy outfits exist in the real world as well, I see many crop tops, short skirts and mini dresses! I even own a few! So why can't a game have the same level of choice? I don't see how it is sexist, since it's a choice, you might not like it, but that's your opinion.
Also have you not seen one of the recent armour sets on the men? I believe their package stands out quite a bit...
You can have a strong women in little clothing, or a weak woman in a lot of clothing, the clothes don't make a person, who they are makes the person!
Also in an era of personal shields protecting you on the ground, less clothing will help you move faster and you are still protected.
No slam against Jeri Ryan...I've seen her in Boston Public and the point that made clear to me is that she is SO much better as an actress than the role she was given on Voyager.
Her acting in VOY was good and there was very little wrong with how she was written, it was only the costumes she wore that degraded her as an actor. The range she was allowed to show, I think, was still one of the strongest parts of VOY.
And, as I've said before, my Terran crew will be sticking to Jupiter uniforms. Protective leather, slightly Imperial look, nice selection of dark colours, look good with the TOS Terran belt or the ENT Terran belt.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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You seem to be on quite the crusade about skimpy outfits, skimpy outfits exist in the real world as well, I see many crop tops, short skirts and mini dresses! I even own a few! So why can't a game have the same level of choice? I don't see how it is sexist, since it's a choice, you might not like it, but that's your opinion.
Oh, yes... choice. Precisely. STO already has more than not, sexualized/skimpy outfits for female characters for people to pick from, when compared to the opposite, non-sexualized outfits. Heck, even the open jacket uniform for female characters just has to show clevage, compared to male version. I'd rather keep the undershirt on my character, personally and I know so would some others, as it has been discussed in the Art forum, ages ago. And that's what choice is. Choice I, and others don't have. That is why this whole thing is jarring issue and why I speak up. Yes, my opinion, and yes, I can voice it, and will, as long as needed.
Even classic-length skirts (so no, not miniskirts) are scarce for people who want to go 'feminine' but not outright go for 'sex sells' look. It's not my cup of tea coffee either, but I can see why this is bad and why people would want these options, and yes, all power to them - they should have it. The choice is just not there.
Also have you not seen one of the recent armour sets on the men? I believe their package stands out quite a bit...
Yeah, it was quite hilarious. The outfit was, in total fairness, terrible for both genders, and my evil Twin, Captain Snark, says, that 'Finally an outfit, which is not terrible just on females'.
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Even classic-length skirts (so no, not miniskirts) are scarce for people who want to go 'feminine' but not outright go for 'sex sells' look. It's not my cup of tea coffee either, but I can see why this is bad and why people would want these options, and yes, all power to them - they should have it. The choice is just not there.
By feminine, do you mean "lady like"? To me, the miniskirt isn't really skimpy, it's just a miniskirt, they are quite popular. Personally I always have the stockings with mine, since I don't like bare legs! But there are longer skirt options, the academy one and the slanted one, I believe. There aren't that many miniskirts, a lack of them really, the Talaxian clothing has some longer options as well, the Romulans also get a long skirt. So the choice of skirt is there!
For tops? Yeah, stick an undershirt option in, I am fine with that if that is what people want. I am a fan of choice, I don't think we should be restricted in what we can wear. I want the Skant uniforms from TNG for both male and female, it's canon!
I don't think we should be restricted in what we can wear. I want the Skant uniforms from TNG for both male and female, it's canon!
I guess that some of us are really tired of seeing the trend of assuming that people always want the sex'd up versions of outfits for females by default, without giving us an alternate version resembling the male, more sober version of the outfit quite often. I won't even go into the whole all-female away teams and skimpd' up, almost nude females, played by males in 99,9% cases... that's whole another topic. >_<
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mustaches, beards, etc. are mandatory in the mirror universe?
@gulberat - 100% agree. yep, me too. even some stances should be removed (cute and seductive). cute is the worse, <- the female object (i hate this stance)
I question your statistic of 99.9% of males, most of the guys I have met tend to have their female away team members dressed in similar outfits, some might dare to use an open top, but that's not really drastic! I try to make my character look like how I would dress in a similar world that I create for myself and my crew have to follow my uniform weather they want to or not! My Romulan crew is dressed a lot smarter, my other Fed crews are too, but my mirror fed and KDF, you wouldn't approve...
...but my mirror fed and KDF, you wouldn't approve...
And duh, as for that - you don't need my or anyone else's approval for how you dress your characters - that's fully your choice, so do what you enjoy, but in the same spirit - I don't need anyone's approval for voicing my opinion on how much (almost) always catering to sexualized female TRIBBLE sucks. You at least respect the fact that it's not everyone's fan-favorite, and that people should have a choice - so respect for that.
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Well, that was my way of exaggerating, that majority of these skimpy/almost nude, bleached up (mainly) Orion females in metal bikini, are dudes...
Some of the Orion clothing does look good, but some of the things people do is a bit weird, like changing parts of the outfit so there is no bottom showing, just the underwear, some people clearly like that but to me, Orion underwear doesn't look very good!
And duh, as for that - you don't need my or anyone else's approval for how you dress your characters - that's fully your choice, so do what you enjoy, but in the same spirit - I don't need anyone's approval for voicing my opinion on how much (almost) always catering to sexualized female TRIBBLE sucks. You at least respect the fact that it's not everyone's fan-favorite, and that people should have a choice - so respect for that.
Of course, I will just discuss most things with anyone, everyone has their own opinion, unless it's dangerous, there is no need the change someones opinion! The tailor is a large part of my enjoyment of STO, it's one of the better customisation systems I have seen, much like the Sims games, I can spend hours just creating an outfit...
But yes, above all else, I hold personal choice high up, games are about having fun and making your own story, if everyone agreed on everything, life would be pretty dull...
But yes, above all else, I hold personal choice high up, games are about having fun and making your own story, if everyone agreed on everything, life would be pretty dull...
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So yeah, I'm not gonna raise my eyebrow at that little bit of Terran Empire trivia. It makes perfect sense considering how awful they are all around.
-Dedication plaque of the Federation Starship U.S.S. Merkava
FINALLY! someone said it -.- yes the TNG pajamma warriors were so much better protected against a palm sized doodad that could disintegrate you....
I mean come on... they don't even wear ARMOR during WAR or even utilize personal deflector shields, which WORF managed to make out of a COMM BADGE while stuck on the holodeck.
This isn't about what's more/less protection or practical because in canon Trek there are plenty of points one can show where the existing uniforms are a joke, not even having special weather gear and whatnot.
Ultimately this is about if you have a bug up yer TRIBBLE about clothes that show any skin or not. The "sexism" argument is already thrown out the window here because the men got the same treatment!
now where's my new uniforms?!
and the next question
Wheres the Klink/Rom versions?!
I always preferred the underboob dabo girl, at the time I was unaware of the existence of gravity defying tape so wondered how she pulled that off
Other than Number One--and as you point out that was successfully torpedoed--I do not count any female officer seen in TOS as being truly placed in a position of equality with the men until the movie era. Uhura on the five-year mission was portrayed as a glorified space secretary. Rand was similarly placed in a subservient role. Chapel was the stereotypical nurse, not a doctor. Those female officers ONLY filled traditional "women's roles" for the time period.
Now, getting to the time the TOS movies came out, then yes, we do see a significant improvement (Uhura's scenes in particular come to mind). But during the original run...I don't see this revolutionary stance TOS is supposed to have taken, at all.
TNG still had some questionable choices (Troi in the bridge bunny outfit, thankfully called out and changed after Roddenberry's influence on the show ended), but you at least had a female doctor and DID see female captains and admirals on other ships. I'm not the greatest fan of certain of Kira's uniforms, but what I DO definitely see is a strong characterization, REAL responsibilities, and the ability to take action herself without a man around, so mostly a win there. DS9 IMO got it closest to right. VOY...failed in so many ways in so many areas--Janeway being badly written, and then Seven of Nine clearly being there to satisfy a certain demographic. (No slam against Jeri Ryan...I've seen her in Boston Public and the point that made clear to me is that she is SO much better as an actress than the role she was given on Voyager.)
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You are correct in that the women were not given a lot of anything for development or to show off they were more than token pretty faces, but their very existence at the time was part of what was revolutionary. Its very hard to grasp for us born after that era, because we had plenty of strong women in life and media, but for its age it paved a road.
Although, to be fair & cut them some slack, at least the Terran reputation armor doesn't do too badly in this regard.
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In the case of the Terrans, at least, it has a rather specific explanation for it. Yeah, it's a reason we personally find distasteful and dehumanizing, but they are the bad guys after all. They are bound by definition to do things we're probably gonna hate. It's not even necessarily the devs approving of such things so much as they're writing to the character style.
Though on the flip side, every time I see a player running around in, like, revealing recreational wear outside of Risa or the comfort of their own starship quarters, I sigh deeply and heavily.
You're in Starfleet, guys. Show some bloody decorum. (and yes I know it is a game but come on).
And yeah, the new rep armor is fantastic. I feel like the KDF might have developed it as either a counter to, or their take on, Starfleet's M.A.C.O. armor, considering it essentially just looks like Klingon-style M.A.C.O. armor.
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I'm not so much for the short short skirt, and the klingon looks like a walking computer, no pwn intended.
With that said, I am happy with my odyssey uniform and its only good Cryptic give us more various options to customize our characters.
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Unless you're referring to that abomination of a thing she wore in series 7 then how? She wore the standard Bajoran uniform to start with before switching to a one piece version without the shoulders.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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You seem to be on quite the crusade about skimpy outfits, skimpy outfits exist in the real world as well, I see many crop tops, short skirts and mini dresses! I even own a few! So why can't a game have the same level of choice? I don't see how it is sexist, since it's a choice, you might not like it, but that's your opinion.
Also have you not seen one of the recent armour sets on the men? I believe their package stands out quite a bit...
You can have a strong women in little clothing, or a weak woman in a lot of clothing, the clothes don't make a person, who they are makes the person!
Also in an era of personal shields protecting you on the ground, less clothing will help you move faster and you are still protected.
Her acting in VOY was good and there was very little wrong with how she was written, it was only the costumes she wore that degraded her as an actor. The range she was allowed to show, I think, was still one of the strongest parts of VOY.
And, as I've said before, my Terran crew will be sticking to Jupiter uniforms. Protective leather, slightly Imperial look, nice selection of dark colours, look good with the TOS Terran belt or the ENT Terran belt.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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Oh, yes... choice. Precisely. STO already has more than not, sexualized/skimpy outfits for female characters for people to pick from, when compared to the opposite, non-sexualized outfits. Heck, even the open jacket uniform for female characters just has to show clevage, compared to male version. I'd rather keep the undershirt on my character, personally and I know so would some others, as it has been discussed in the Art forum, ages ago. And that's what choice is. Choice I, and others don't have. That is why this whole thing is jarring issue and why I speak up. Yes, my opinion, and yes, I can voice it, and will, as long as needed.
Even classic-length skirts (so no, not miniskirts) are scarce for people who want to go 'feminine' but not outright go for 'sex sells' look. It's not my cup of tea coffee either, but I can see why this is bad and why people would want these options, and yes, all power to them - they should have it. The choice is just not there.
Yeah, it was quite hilarious. The outfit was, in total fairness, terrible for both genders, and my evil Twin, Captain Snark, says, that 'Finally an outfit, which is not terrible just on females'.
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By feminine, do you mean "lady like"? To me, the miniskirt isn't really skimpy, it's just a miniskirt, they are quite popular. Personally I always have the stockings with mine, since I don't like bare legs! But there are longer skirt options, the academy one and the slanted one, I believe. There aren't that many miniskirts, a lack of them really, the Talaxian clothing has some longer options as well, the Romulans also get a long skirt. So the choice of skirt is there!
For tops? Yeah, stick an undershirt option in, I am fine with that if that is what people want. I am a fan of choice, I don't think we should be restricted in what we can wear. I want the Skant uniforms from TNG for both male and female, it's canon!
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mustaches, beards, etc. are mandatory in the mirror universe?
@gulberat - 100% agree. yep, me too. even some stances should be removed (cute and seductive). cute is the worse, <- the female object (i hate this stance)
Only for men.
Now, any chance we can swing the discussion back to the topic of underboobs with or without gravity defying tapes?
I bet cryptic knows exactly what sells and what not and what peeps are tired of seeing and what not.
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are you sure of that? maybe Mirror Leeta shaves her beard every morning
And duh, as for that - you don't need my or anyone else's approval for how you dress your characters - that's fully your choice, so do what you enjoy, but in the same spirit - I don't need anyone's approval for voicing my opinion on how much (almost) always catering to sexualized female TRIBBLE sucks. You at least respect the fact that it's not everyone's fan-favorite, and that people should have a choice - so respect for that.
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Well I hope she does!
Urgs, since it’s an alternate universe she probably doesn’t do it around here though.
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I won't oppose the introduction of these uniforms as player clothes, but I find them to be just that... "meh".
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