Dude, Crypitic didn't need a forum post to know this was going on. They know everything that goes on.
On another front: I like the pitchfork idea. Or better: a Walk-out. Stop playing STO for a week. We can cry all we want to, but nothing is gonna get their attn. We all *****, no one DOES anything.
I vote walk-out.
Heck, we could get their attention with one organized day off.
Game breaking bugs? Whatever. People power-leveling to avoid this obnoxious grind? Stop everything! :rolleyes:
LoL...
I spit out my soda...
Thanks, I needed a new keyboard anyway.
:cool:
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No, more akin to an angy kid taking his ball and going home because his friends are all cheating. It is an acknowledged exploit, after all - acknowledged even by those using it - and the ToS, as I recall, prohibits using exploits.
Now, if you want to take your ball and go home because you don't like the rules, well, that's up to you, really.
Its not a cheat. You think this is the first time people have power-leveled? It goes on all the time. In every MMO out there. This isnt something new or out of the ordinary. The only reason its gaining attention here and now is one simple reason. Its not being done on the DR Maps.
Cryptic has to turn around and show their PWE Overlords that the money spent on DR was worth it in way of Player Activity and Spending. And they cant do that when Players are flocking to older content to avoid the new shiny content.
DR Power Leveling requires players to spend more time in an instance than LoR content. Again. Not cheating. Cheating would be akin to going to Japori because its giving more Elite XP then elsewhere in the game. Which its not. This is all about the time spent in the actual instances. And thats why they shut it down.
If youd take your Cryptics Awesome glasses off for five minutes. Thought about the situation rationally and put it into perspective. Youd see theres no exploitive behavior going on.
Cryptic has to turn around and show their PWE Overlords that the money spent on DR was worth it in way of Player Activity and Spending. And they cant do that when Players are flocking to older content to avoid the new shiny content.
Well maybe if they'd put rewards in there, and made it playable... that would be pretty cool, I mean the story's fine the acting was fine, it was great to see old faces and all th~NOPE, GO SPEND HALF AN HOUR SLAMMING YOURSELF AGAINST A GIANT BRICK WALL FOR LITTLE TO NO GAIN...
Fill up the sectors, have a jolly good time, and see what their metrics say about that.
This should definitely happen. It would for sure give Cryptic a resounding message about the playerbases stance on where they can shove this Expansion.
Dude storming the castle with torches and pitchforks is the STO communities most calm and peaceful response to honest and intelligent responses from Cryptic.
LoL...
I spit out my soda...
Thanks, I needed a new keyboard anyway.
:cool:
I didn't think it could possibly be funny enough to be all that.
I was wrong. I LOL'ed.
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This should definitely happen. It would for sure give Cryptic a resounding message about the playerbases stance on where they can shove this Expansion.
Let's make it happen. Anybody interested, hit up your local ESD/Qo'nos/New Romulus/Orgrimmar and see how many people just sitting around we can move to TD.
I didn't think it could possibly be funny enough to be all that.
I was wrong. I LOL'ed.
I'm running on about 80 Proof at the moment, but I think I would have LoL'd anyway.
:cool:
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Its so incredible to see how fast they can act when thy feel the need to! Why was the need to in the first place? I dont quiet seem to get that.
- Are they unhappy that with the messed up queues peeps dont have anything to do than to level their toons?
- Are they are unhappy with the fact that their released new story contend doesnt cover the way to lvl 60 the least bit?
-Are they unhappy with the fact that those who showed their commitment toward the game by making multiple alts have searched for a way to keep em at endgame under reasonable conditions instead of simply abandoning them?
Hm with all this unhappiness about the communitys behaviour I have a few more suggestions!
- Close the Voth ground battle zone over the duration of the upcoming dil weekend. That way you can guarantee better that the players dont feel like upgrading their gear.
- Pleas sort out the entire doff system cuz there are many projects available which grand easy skill points. You dont want to have people use that in order to level their toons passively, do you?
- Dont bring back NWS too quickly before peeps discover that u intend to distribute crafting mats for bearting higher waves. You dont want us take us advantage of it!
Oh man the fact that hundreds of players even resort to such a thing like playing tau patrols over and over a gain is already so sad for a game that you should wake up.
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Cryptic are not Jesus , and you do not have a personal relationship with them ... .
... I hope ...
Cryptic consists of human beings with families, pets, wants, desires, ambitions, and personal goals. They also have feelings. They are also capable of making mistakes in addition to making great progresses.
Treating Cryptic like fellow human beings does not mean you have a personal relationship with them. It does mean that you can address them like regular people and not as if they were James Bond villains.
I thought they made a bad call with Tau Dewa. I thought they made a bad call with a lack of information. I thought they made a bad call with a lack of communication.
They communicated (even if it was not as transparent as I had hoped), but an effort was made in the right direction.
It is important to deal with companies you do business with on a case-by-case basis instead of throwing them under the bus wholesale. Because that accomplishes nothing productive.
Cryptic consists of human beings with families, pets, wants, desires, ambitions, and personal goals. They also have feelings. They are also capable of making mistakes in addition to making great progresses.
Treating Cryptic like fellow human beings does not mean you have a personal relationship with them. It does mean that you can address them like regular people and not as if they were James Bond villains.
I thought they made a bad call with Tau Dewa. I thought they made a bad call with a lack of information. I thought they made a bad call with a lack of communication.
They communicated (even if it was not as transparent as I had hoped), but an effort was made in the right direction.
It is important to deal with companies you do business with on a case-by-case basis instead of throwing them under the bus wholesale. Because that accomplishes nothing productive.
Next time I do something bad, can I get a hug from you sometime?
It won't help what I did, but it'll make me feell better.
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Thank god i dinged 60 last night. And i even got two superior upgrade kits out of Japori.
Still, nerfing the stuff that's being played because it doesn't feel like a slog instead of reducing the sloggishness of your new content is just idiotic.
I'm really sorry Cryptic. I usually defend you guys but this was a complete brainfart.
I find it just GRAND they would "fix" something so fast that was not broken and has been done for years in places like enemy contacts. BUT! They cant be bothered creating or fixing the fact that we don't have a extra pip or anything to be shown when we become a fleet admiral. We have had bugs for years like in HGE knocking off the queen and in turn we must all die. Never fixed! But oh man some "most" players are lvling up by patrols and they are doing it too fast! So lets call it a bad thing and fix it!
I did it! I did the patrol because I ran every mission in Delta until I was stopped because my rank was not a certain lvl. A rank gap in a story mode?? I hate lvl grinding! I want to "earn" it running the story. But you all did not make enough stories in Delta to lvl up!! I was stopped at a certain episode and had to do something. So I did the naughty patrol that I actually saw nothing wrong with. It was not like we were getting free points! We worked for those points!. Again its nothing new. Years back it was enemy signal contacts.
Cryptic consists of human beings with families, pets, wants, desires, ambitions, and personal goals. They also have feelings. They are also capable of making mistakes in addition to making great progresses.
Treating Cryptic like fellow human beings does not mean you have a personal relationship with them. It does mean that you can address them like regular people and not as if they were James Bond villains.
I thought they made a bad call with Tau Dewa. I thought they made a bad call with a lack of information. I thought they made a bad call with a lack of communication.
They communicated (even if it was not as transparent as I had hoped), but an effort was made in the right direction.
It is important to deal with companies you do business with on a case-by-case basis instead of throwing them under the bus wholesale. Because that accomplishes nothing productive.
All this is true but I think one thing important is missing, how about cryptic treat us like human beings and not drones with wallets. How about the treat us like we have families, wants, desires, and not just a profit source. How about instead of making a game that is increasingly becoming more of a grind then fun they act like there are people playing this game that want to have fun, that want to level in some sort of reasonable time frame. And most importantly how about they treat us like a customer and not just a consumer. Like our money makes a difference in whether or not they have a job or not. That keeping their players happy ranks somewhere near the top of their priorities, and not somewhere after "using the bathroom" on that list.
Next time I do something bad, can I get a hug from you sometime?
It won't help what I did, but it'll make me feell better.
It's not an all-or-nothing deal. It is perfectly reasonable to like some things and dislike others.
If I have a child who does something that deserves punishment, it does not mean I hate my child. It is important they know what they did was wrong, but that I still love them.
PWE/Cryptic are not children, but they are still people. It is important they understand I do not hate them. I may dislike decisions made. I may dislike communications made (or more often than not, not made), but STO is still a game they've mostly gotten right. And that deserves praise and continued patronage from me.
And if they do something to make amends, to make things right -- then that deserves an appropriate reaction from me, particularly when my previous action hinged on whether or not they would clarify their actions.
I said some things that did not resemble reality, and I was wrong for that.
Its so incredible to see how fast they can act when thy feel the need to! Why was the need to in the first place? I dont quiet seem to get that.
- Are they unhappy that with the messed up queues peeps dont have anything to do than to level their toons?
- Are they are unhappy with the fact that their released new story contend doesnt cover the way to lvl 60 the least bit?
-Are they unhappy with the fact that those who showed their commitment toward the game by making multiple alts have searched for a way to keep em at endgame under reasonable conditions instead of simply abandoning them?
Hm with all this unhappiness about the communitys behaviour I have a few more suggestions!
- Close the Voth ground battle zone over the duration of the upcoming dil weekend. That way you can guarantee better that the players dont feel like upgrading their gear.
- Pleas sort out the entire doff system cuz there are many projects available which grand easy skill points. You dont want to have people use that in order to level their toons passively, do you?
- Dont bring back NWS too quickly before peeps discover that u intend to distribute crafting mats for bearting higher waves. You dont want us take us advantage of it!
Oh man the fact that hundreds of players even resort to such a thing like playing tau patrols over and over a gain is already so sad for a game that you should wake up.
So very true...
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STO community response: vandalize the wiki with death threats towards the devs
Cryptic: Party Amps! everybody dance
STO community response: Claims seeing their imaginary characters being forced to dance is as traumatic as a woman being drug into an alley to be sexually assaulted.
Cryptic: Gives away Cstore ships for free
STO community response: Demands for refunds from players that already bought the ships.
And those are just off the top of my head. I'm sure others can think of more examples. :P
Cryptic: Doesn't make new content after everyone finishes the provided content.
STO Community Response: LAZY DEVS! WE WANT MOAR!
____________________________________________________
Cryptic: Makes new content.
STO Community Response: THIS ISN'T WHAT WE WANT!
____________________________________________________
Cryptic: Actually does something the players want.
STO Community Response: YOU DID IT WRONG!
____________________________________________________
Short version: No matter what Cryptic does, there will be people complaining.
All this is true but I think one thing important is missing, how about cryptic treat us like human beings and not drones with wallets. How about the treat us like we have families, wants, desires, and not just a profit source. How about instead of making a game that is increasingly becoming more of a grind then fun they act like there are people playing this game that want to have fun, that want to level in some sort of reasonable time frame. And most importantly how about they treat us like a customer and not just a consumer. Like our money makes a difference in whether or not they have a job or not. That keeping their players happy ranks somewhere near the top of their priorities, and not somewhere after "using the bathroom" on that list.
I do agree with this. That said, I have seen Cryptic devs on the forums treat others like human beings.
My main gripes with the company have almost always been with the people at the top of food chain. The ones who get paid enough money to deal with consumers like me who do not want to shoot the messanger, or go after the people given orders from the top.
I may have issues with McDonald's and their business practices, but I am not going to take it out on the high school student making minimum wage at the cash register.
All this is true but I think one thing important is missing, how about cryptic treat us like human beings and not drones with wallets. How about the treat us like we have families, wants, desires, and not just a profit source. How about instead of making a game that is increasingly becoming more of a grind then fun they act like there are people playing this game that want to have fun, that want to level in some sort of reasonable time frame. And most importantly how about they treat us like a customer and not just a consumer. Like our money makes a difference in whether or not they have a job or not. That keeping their players happy ranks somewhere near the top of their priorities, and not somewhere after "using the bathroom" on that list.
If you really want PWE/Cryptic to stop treating you all like dollar signs attached to a spreadsheet. If you want them to treat you like an individual human being, then stop trying to cannibalize the developers.
You want to point fingers? Point them at the producers. Point them at the demagogues in marketing. Point them at the bean counters at Perfect World.
Point them at the people who do not communicate with us. That's where all of this anger should be focused.
I don't mind ribbing Smirk from time to time, or engaging in debates with Tacofangs or disagreeing with game development decisions with Adjudicatorhawk or Borticus.
But if I want actual long-term meaningful change, my fight isn't with the people we see in the forums.
Cryptic consists of human beings with families, pets, wants, desires, ambitions, and personal goals. They also have feelings. They are also capable of making mistakes in addition to making great progresses.
Treating Cryptic like fellow human beings does not mean you have a personal relationship with them. It does mean that you can address them like regular people and not as if they were James Bond villains.
I thought they made a bad call with Tau Dewa. I thought they made a bad call with a lack of information. I thought they made a bad call with a lack of communication.
They communicated (even if it was not as transparent as I had hoped), but an effort was made in the right direction.
It is important to deal with companies you do business with on a case-by-case basis instead of throwing them under the bus wholesale. Because that accomplishes nothing productive.
While the US Government might consider Corporations Living entities. That doesnt mean its true. Cryptic is a mindless money eating machine. There is no heart and soul there. There is no sense of remorse, guilt, happiness etc.
As for productivity. Pretending Cryptic the Corporation, or even the Devs care about your apology. Thats not productive. Youre wasting your breath.
I'd say your fight (and ours) is with everybody who decided that inflated hp and slashed rewards makes for compelling gameplay. The same people who shut their eyes and plug their ears and insist that the playerbase will come around and everything is fine with the content they made.
I may have issues with McDonald's and their business practices, but I am not going to take it out on the high school student making minimum wage at the cash register.
So you wouldn't blame the TRIBBLE hitler jugend for just following orders either?
Isn't that even a straight up picard quote, that too many people have used that exact excuse...
You have a responsibility for your own actions no matter your in-come period.
While the US Government might consider Corporations Living entities. That doesnt mean its true. Cryptic is a mindless money eating machine. There is no heart and soul there. There is no sense of remorse, guilt, happiness etc.
As for productivity. Pretending Cryptic the Corporation, or even the Devs care about your apology. Thats not productive. Youre wasting your breath.
You think people at Cryptic agree with each other on decisions? They don't.
Decisions are made at the very top. And the people that communicate with us are given their orders from the top.
And since the people at the top don't read the forums, they won't read that apology. But the people who do read the forums might.
Cryptic consists of human beings with families, pets, wants, desires, ambitions, and personal goals. They also have feelings.
" He hath disgraced me and hindered me half a million, laughed at my losses, mocked at my gains, scorned my nation, thwarted my bargains, cooled my friends, heated mine enemies—and what’s his reason?
I am a Player.
Hath not a Player eyes? Hath not a Player hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions? Fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer as a Dev is?
If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that. If a Player wrong a Dev, what is his humility? Revenge.
If a Dev wrong a Player, what should his sufferance be by Dev example? Why, revenge. The villainy you teach me I will execute—and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction. "
- A locked gift , unlocked .
(Shylock , paraphrased.)
PWE/Cryptic are not children,
From some of the stories I've heard , I would not vouch for that one .
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Heck, we could get their attention with one organized day off.
LoL...
I spit out my soda...
Thanks, I needed a new keyboard anyway.
:cool:
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Its not a cheat. You think this is the first time people have power-leveled? It goes on all the time. In every MMO out there. This isnt something new or out of the ordinary. The only reason its gaining attention here and now is one simple reason. Its not being done on the DR Maps.
Cryptic has to turn around and show their PWE Overlords that the money spent on DR was worth it in way of Player Activity and Spending. And they cant do that when Players are flocking to older content to avoid the new shiny content.
DR Power Leveling requires players to spend more time in an instance than LoR content. Again. Not cheating. Cheating would be akin to going to Japori because its giving more Elite XP then elsewhere in the game. Which its not. This is all about the time spent in the actual instances. And thats why they shut it down.
If youd take your Cryptics Awesome glasses off for five minutes. Thought about the situation rationally and put it into perspective. Youd see theres no exploitive behavior going on.
Well maybe if they'd put rewards in there, and made it playable... that would be pretty cool, I mean the story's fine the acting was fine, it was great to see old faces and all th~NOPE, GO SPEND HALF AN HOUR SLAMMING YOURSELF AGAINST A GIANT BRICK WALL FOR LITTLE TO NO GAIN...
Wonder what the problem could possibly be?
Cryptic are not Jesus , and you do not have a personal relationship with them ... .
... I hope ...
This should definitely happen. It would for sure give Cryptic a resounding message about the playerbases stance on where they can shove this Expansion.
"Advanced is just like the old Elite!"
I didn't think it could possibly be funny enough to be all that.
I was wrong. I LOL'ed.
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Let's make it happen. Anybody interested, hit up your local ESD/Qo'nos/New Romulus/Orgrimmar and see how many people just sitting around we can move to TD.
Bs covered in TRIBBLE on some fake account because no one wants to show their face, priceless
I'm running on about 80 Proof at the moment, but I think I would have LoL'd anyway.
:cool:
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Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
No alcohol here. It was just THAT funny.
BTW, is that one of the glitches parodied in this video? I am not a big gamer outside STO so not sure...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q2P4LjuVA8
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- Are they unhappy that with the messed up queues peeps dont have anything to do than to level their toons?
- Are they are unhappy with the fact that their released new story contend doesnt cover the way to lvl 60 the least bit?
-Are they unhappy with the fact that those who showed their commitment toward the game by making multiple alts have searched for a way to keep em at endgame under reasonable conditions instead of simply abandoning them?
Hm with all this unhappiness about the communitys behaviour I have a few more suggestions!
- Close the Voth ground battle zone over the duration of the upcoming dil weekend. That way you can guarantee better that the players dont feel like upgrading their gear.
- Pleas sort out the entire doff system cuz there are many projects available which grand easy skill points. You dont want to have people use that in order to level their toons passively, do you?
- Dont bring back NWS too quickly before peeps discover that u intend to distribute crafting mats for bearting higher waves. You dont want us take us advantage of it!
Oh man the fact that hundreds of players even resort to such a thing like playing tau patrols over and over a gain is already so sad for a game that you should wake up.
Looking for a fun PvE fleet? Join us at Omega Combat Division today.
Cryptic consists of human beings with families, pets, wants, desires, ambitions, and personal goals. They also have feelings. They are also capable of making mistakes in addition to making great progresses.
Treating Cryptic like fellow human beings does not mean you have a personal relationship with them. It does mean that you can address them like regular people and not as if they were James Bond villains.
I thought they made a bad call with Tau Dewa. I thought they made a bad call with a lack of information. I thought they made a bad call with a lack of communication.
They communicated (even if it was not as transparent as I had hoped), but an effort was made in the right direction.
It is important to deal with companies you do business with on a case-by-case basis instead of throwing them under the bus wholesale. Because that accomplishes nothing productive.
Next time I do something bad, can I get a hug from you sometime?
It won't help what I did, but it'll make me feell better.
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Still, nerfing the stuff that's being played because it doesn't feel like a slog instead of reducing the sloggishness of your new content is just idiotic.
I'm really sorry Cryptic. I usually defend you guys but this was a complete brainfart.
I did it! I did the patrol because I ran every mission in Delta until I was stopped because my rank was not a certain lvl. A rank gap in a story mode?? I hate lvl grinding! I want to "earn" it running the story. But you all did not make enough stories in Delta to lvl up!! I was stopped at a certain episode and had to do something. So I did the naughty patrol that I actually saw nothing wrong with. It was not like we were getting free points! We worked for those points!. Again its nothing new. Years back it was enemy signal contacts.
All this is true but I think one thing important is missing, how about cryptic treat us like human beings and not drones with wallets. How about the treat us like we have families, wants, desires, and not just a profit source. How about instead of making a game that is increasingly becoming more of a grind then fun they act like there are people playing this game that want to have fun, that want to level in some sort of reasonable time frame. And most importantly how about they treat us like a customer and not just a consumer. Like our money makes a difference in whether or not they have a job or not. That keeping their players happy ranks somewhere near the top of their priorities, and not somewhere after "using the bathroom" on that list.
It's not an all-or-nothing deal. It is perfectly reasonable to like some things and dislike others.
If I have a child who does something that deserves punishment, it does not mean I hate my child. It is important they know what they did was wrong, but that I still love them.
PWE/Cryptic are not children, but they are still people. It is important they understand I do not hate them. I may dislike decisions made. I may dislike communications made (or more often than not, not made), but STO is still a game they've mostly gotten right. And that deserves praise and continued patronage from me.
And if they do something to make amends, to make things right -- then that deserves an appropriate reaction from me, particularly when my previous action hinged on whether or not they would clarify their actions.
I said some things that did not resemble reality, and I was wrong for that.
So very true...
Cryptic: Doesn't make new content after everyone finishes the provided content.
STO Community Response: LAZY DEVS! WE WANT MOAR!
____________________________________________________
Cryptic: Makes new content.
STO Community Response: THIS ISN'T WHAT WE WANT!
____________________________________________________
Cryptic: Actually does something the players want.
STO Community Response: YOU DID IT WRONG!
____________________________________________________
Short version: No matter what Cryptic does, there will be people complaining.
I do agree with this. That said, I have seen Cryptic devs on the forums treat others like human beings.
My main gripes with the company have almost always been with the people at the top of food chain. The ones who get paid enough money to deal with consumers like me who do not want to shoot the messanger, or go after the people given orders from the top.
I may have issues with McDonald's and their business practices, but I am not going to take it out on the high school student making minimum wage at the cash register.
This, totally this.
You want to point fingers? Point them at the producers. Point them at the demagogues in marketing. Point them at the bean counters at Perfect World.
Point them at the people who do not communicate with us. That's where all of this anger should be focused.
I don't mind ribbing Smirk from time to time, or engaging in debates with Tacofangs or disagreeing with game development decisions with Adjudicatorhawk or Borticus.
But if I want actual long-term meaningful change, my fight isn't with the people we see in the forums.
It's the people we don't.
While the US Government might consider Corporations Living entities. That doesnt mean its true. Cryptic is a mindless money eating machine. There is no heart and soul there. There is no sense of remorse, guilt, happiness etc.
As for productivity. Pretending Cryptic the Corporation, or even the Devs care about your apology. Thats not productive. Youre wasting your breath.
So you wouldn't blame the TRIBBLE hitler jugend for just following orders either?
Isn't that even a straight up picard quote, that too many people have used that exact excuse...
You have a responsibility for your own actions no matter your in-come period.
You think people at Cryptic agree with each other on decisions? They don't.
Decisions are made at the very top. And the people that communicate with us are given their orders from the top.
And since the people at the top don't read the forums, they won't read that apology. But the people who do read the forums might.
Are we really invoking Godwin's Law?
" He hath disgraced me and hindered me half a million, laughed at my losses, mocked at my gains, scorned my nation, thwarted my bargains, cooled my friends, heated mine enemies—and what’s his reason?
I am a Player.
Hath not a Player eyes? Hath not a Player hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions? Fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer as a Dev is?
If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that. If a Player wrong a Dev, what is his humility? Revenge.
If a Dev wrong a Player, what should his sufferance be by Dev example? Why, revenge. The villainy you teach me I will execute—and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction. "
- A locked gift , unlocked .
(Shylock , paraphrased.)
From some of the stories I've heard , I would not vouch for that one .