No, more akin to an angy kid taking his ball and going home because his friends are all cheating. It is an acknowledged exploit, after all - acknowledged even by those using it - and the ToS, as I recall, prohibits using exploits.
Now, if you want to take your ball and go home because you don't like the rules, well, that's up to you, really.
How exactly is it an exploit? And which players have acknowledged that it's an exploit? What I see is cryptic has there undies in a bunch because the player base found a quick way to grind exp to level up there characters and to top it off there new dr content isn't getting as much attention as they want. They want you to play their new content their way.
so basically any toon that needs to complete romulan rep is suppose to chase f*cking Eppohhs??
This'll get you, when I did the tagging I found a nice little spot that always had 3x Space Bunnies in the bush. You could sit there and mash the F button like woody woodpecker, and you'd get about a level 2 completion.
A couple of weeks after I finished my Romulan rep grind, guess what got nerfed? They didn't even mention it in the patch notes.
To actually continue the story mission, i have to complete 55 missions that yield 900exp a pop.
55 times doing the same mission... for one level for one toon?
Honestly, i think this is only going to make me play less, logging in to sort my rep missions on a few toons, and wait until they hopefully reverse the exp choke hold .
I just dont understand this stance on forcing a huge grind to play STORY content.
Why not just make the exp gaps for leveling lower ands when you hit 60 have the stupid gaps for filling skill trees . (also if we can fill skill trees, why cant we just fill the initail captain skill bars? if we can have all teh handy traits, why not the base stats to boot?)
TL;dR
I do not understand Delta Rising... at all
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I am beginning to think someone inside cryptic is trying to sabotage the game so someone else can pick up the IP. I know that sounds like I have a tinfoil hat on but really, why else try so hard to make the game unfun at every turn?
I am beginning to think someone inside cryptic is trying to sabotage the game so someone else can pick up the IP. I know that sounds like I have a tinfoil hat on but really, why else try so hard to make the game unfun at every turn?
That quote that I heard the first time I warped into Borg territory... "What the Borg (PWE CRYPTIC) cannot assimilate, they will destroy." Seems fitting.
WELL IF THE JAPORI INCIDENT HAS TAUGHT ME ANYTHING, IT'S THAT MY EXISTENCE IS AN EXPLOIT. THANKS CRYPTIC.
IF YOU ARE READING MY SIG - THEN YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG
Have yet to see any official statement of any kind. Rampant speculation by players. Accusations, jumping to conclusions and a few fanning the flames.. But nothing official.
Asked in a few other threads, was either ignored, insulted or pointed to this thread.
See the OP 'quote' a dev.. not a screen shot. not a dev, just one sentence quote.
EVEN IF the quote is legit. (not sure about that) Seems like a lot of conclusions are being made. Could be a bug completely unrelated to anything else. could be something many have speculated about or something else entirely.
Just seems like a LOT of fuss without a lot of specifics so far.
Did i miss something?
Still looking for anyone that can post a screen of this quote.. or confirmation from another source. Stats? anything?
So in other words youre uneffected so youll keep on keepin on? Thanks for giving us all a heads up. We were so worried about that.
The delta patrols were gigantic HP sponges with extremely low rewards. We get told by the game, flat out, specifically, to go replay patrols. Why in the **** would we choose the really tedious ones that give us jack?
And what's up with the irreplaceable, non-repeatable mission rewards all of a sudden? "Here's a crappy blue pistol that isn't part of any set, And if you ever dare spend another hour re-doing this mission don't you dare think you'll get anything out of it you *******"? "TRIBBLE you, **** all of you, we're increasing time to mission completion tenfold and slashing the rewards in half"? Even with your "downwards" changes on tribble don't think we're so stupid as to not notice those 80%+ resists still lying all over those multi-million sponges.
STO had a lot going for it, but you're starting to erode a lot of our good will by pulling stunts like this while leaving all the actual bugs (in some cases quite serious no less) untouched for weeks... And that's if we don't count the fact that you ignored them all the way back on Test.
Fill up the sectors, have a jolly good time, and see what their metrics say about that.
I'm already occupying tau dewa cause I cant bring myself to go back to the delta quadrant lol. Janeway spent all that time trying to get out of that hell hole and now cryptic sends us back.
And now I'm picturing D'angelo in his office, bashing plastic starships into each other as he says this. Then Smirk comes in to ask him about something....
"DID YOU SEE ANYTHING?!"
"No sir! I didn't see you playing with your dolls again!"
Nice Spaceballs reference.
Oh great the majority are being punished for the actions of the minority with Tau Dewa being shut down
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
The delta patrols were gigantic HP sponges with extremely low rewards. We get told by the game, flat out, specifically, to go replay patrols. Why in the **** would we choose the really tedious ones that give us jack?
And what's up with the irreplaceable, non-repeatable mission rewards all of a sudden? "Here's a crappy blue pistol that isn't part of any set, And if you ever dare spend another hour re-doing this mission don't you dare think you'll get anything out of it you *******"? "TRIBBLE you, **** all of you, we're increasing time to mission completion tenfold and slashing the rewards in half"? Even with your "downwards" changes on tribble don't think we're so stupid as to not notice those 80%+ resists still lying all over those multi-million sponges.
STO had a lot going for it, but you're starting to erode a lot of our good will by pulling stunts like this while leaving all the actual bugs (in some cases quite serious no less) untouched for weeks... And that's if we don't count the fact that you ignored them all the way back on Test.
I'm already occupying tau dewa cause I cant bring myself to go back to the delta quadrant lol. Janeway spent all that time trying to get out of that hell hole and now cryptic sends us back.
I wonder how many instances could be formed with a mass player base just showing up
I wonder how many instances could be formed with a mass player base just showing up
I think the instances limit of players is 50 and in theory you could have an infinite number of instances in one region but it would choke the game probably but thats still a lot lol
I'm already occupying tau dewa cause I cant bring myself to go back to the delta quadrant lol. Janeway spent all that time trying to get out of that hell hole and now cryptic sends us back.
Got two of mine parked out that way, usually. Mostly to be handy if the newer mems need assistance on those dang DR patrols that they passed off as episodes.
I'm already occupying tau dewa cause I cant bring myself to go back to the delta quadrant lol. Janeway spent all that time trying to get out of that hell hole and now cryptic sends us back.
Same here, one character was enough, i simply cannot afford the dilithium to upgrade another character, and thankfully i did the grind with my main before they "changed the rules" and pulled the plug.
Also:The Storyline is a bit like the Movie "The Sixt Sense" exciting if you watch it for the first Time, but boring if you have to watch it again.
Beta, LTA, CE, Multiple preorder Versions, all Addon Packs except AoY, nearly all KDF/Rom and ~50% of all Fedships, over 25 LockboxShips, Endurer of Atari's "Year of Hell", but...
Why would anyone get upset by that. Go grind the new delta patrols. Better everything anyway.
There is no exploit in 5 people grouping up to do patrol missions... its the way the built them. So I really don't get what they are upset about. Likely they put it back up... unless a small handful had found some bug that was giving them more then they should have been getting or something.
If that was actually true. It would of made more sense to ban hammer those few and quietly deal with whatever exploit was unearthed in an 'emergency maintenance'.
Instead theyve interfered with god knows how many players nightly activities that may or may not have anything to do with Power Leveling. I personally use Japori to grind out the Tau Dewa Daily.
So, you think they'll flip the board and storm out soon?
You asking about Cryptic or the Players??
:cool:
STO Member since February 2009. I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born! Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Hey ... that's actually how I might gave approached the Borg STF's in this game ... .
... and I sure as hell did play'em fore more then 10 hours ...
/puts on cone of shame ...
*takes cone of shame off of aelfwin1's head*
That cones not big enough for the both of us! find a bigger one :P
i should be ashamed to because i kinda had this on my computer so when i wanted to laugh i could just listen but i ended up falling asleep and having the best nights sleep ever thanks to this haha
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So, you think they'll flip the board and storm out soon?
So did Cryptic:D
But I retract some of my earlier scathing remarks earlier in this thread as a result of the clarification.
How exactly is it an exploit? And which players have acknowledged that it's an exploit? What I see is cryptic has there undies in a bunch because the player base found a quick way to grind exp to level up there characters and to top it off there new dr content isn't getting as much attention as they want. They want you to play their new content their way.
This'll get you, when I did the tagging I found a nice little spot that always had 3x Space Bunnies in the bush. You could sit there and mash the F button like woody woodpecker, and you'd get about a level 2 completion.
A couple of weeks after I finished my Romulan rep grind, guess what got nerfed? They didn't even mention it in the patch notes.
To actually continue the story mission, i have to complete 55 missions that yield 900exp a pop.
55 times doing the same mission... for one level for one toon?
Honestly, i think this is only going to make me play less, logging in to sort my rep missions on a few toons, and wait until they hopefully reverse the exp choke hold
I just dont understand this stance on forcing a huge grind to play STORY content.
Why not just make the exp gaps for leveling lower ands when you hit 60 have the stupid gaps for filling skill trees
TL;dR
I do not understand Delta Rising... at all
I am beginning to think someone inside cryptic is trying to sabotage the game so someone else can pick up the IP. I know that sounds like I have a tinfoil hat on but really, why else try so hard to make the game unfun at every turn?
That quote that I heard the first time I warped into Borg territory... "What the Borg (PWE CRYPTIC) cannot assimilate, they will destroy." Seems fitting.
IF YOU ARE READING MY SIG - THEN YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG
So in other words youre uneffected so youll keep on keepin on? Thanks for giving us all a heads up. We were so worried about that.
Fill up the sectors, have a jolly good time, and see what their metrics say about that.
And what's up with the irreplaceable, non-repeatable mission rewards all of a sudden? "Here's a crappy blue pistol that isn't part of any set, And if you ever dare spend another hour re-doing this mission don't you dare think you'll get anything out of it you *******"? "TRIBBLE you, **** all of you, we're increasing time to mission completion tenfold and slashing the rewards in half"? Even with your "downwards" changes on tribble don't think we're so stupid as to not notice those 80%+ resists still lying all over those multi-million sponges.
STO had a lot going for it, but you're starting to erode a lot of our good will by pulling stunts like this while leaving all the actual bugs (in some cases quite serious no less) untouched for weeks... And that's if we don't count the fact that you ignored them all the way back on Test.
Get your heads back on straight.
+1 for sheer awesomeness
+2, made me laugh
I'm already occupying tau dewa cause I cant bring myself to go back to the delta quadrant lol. Janeway spent all that time trying to get out of that hell hole and now cryptic sends us back.
Nice Spaceballs reference.
Oh great the majority are being punished for the actions of the minority with Tau Dewa being shut down
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Lol, I have 4 threads with bugs from 2012 and 13.
I wonder how many instances could be formed with a mass player base just showing up
I think the instances limit of players is 50 and in theory you could have an infinite number of instances in one region but it would choke the game probably but thats still a lot lol
Got two of mine parked out that way, usually. Mostly to be handy if the newer mems need assistance on those dang DR patrols that they passed off as episodes.
Sarah Knightly - Co-leader; Frontier Explorers - U.S.S. Witchblade
Rias Gremory - Leader; Frontier Marauders - I.K.S. B'ullwinkle
Game breaking bugs? Whatever. People power-leveling to avoid this obnoxious grind? Stop everything! :rolleyes:
Same here, one character was enough, i simply cannot afford the dilithium to upgrade another character, and thankfully i did the grind with my main before they "changed the rules" and pulled the plug.
Also:The Storyline is a bit like the Movie "The Sixt Sense" exciting if you watch it for the first Time, but boring if you have to watch it again.
If that was actually true. It would of made more sense to ban hammer those few and quietly deal with whatever exploit was unearthed in an 'emergency maintenance'.
Instead theyve interfered with god knows how many players nightly activities that may or may not have anything to do with Power Leveling. I personally use Japori to grind out the Tau Dewa Daily.
You asking about Cryptic or the Players??
:cool:
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Hey ... that's actually how I might gave approached the Borg STF's in this game ... .
... and I sure as hell did play'em fore more then 10 hours ...
/puts on cone of shame ...
*takes cone of shame off of aelfwin1's head*
That cones not big enough for the both of us! find a bigger one :P
i should be ashamed to because i kinda had this on my computer so when i wanted to laugh i could just listen but i ended up falling asleep and having the best nights sleep ever thanks to this haha