Because the nullifier is only designed to effect one person, the party ball is designed to effect everyone.
Hey, I am entirely fine with the nullifier being consumed on use... Seems logical actually.
However...
Item X can affect 20, but eats one...
Item Y can affect 1, and eats one...
There is a serious flaw in that logic... Unless of cause you are suggesting that the nullifier has the same range of affect as the ball does... So if I use it right under the ball, everyone in the same effect radius should also be "nullified".
Edit:
OR, a reasonable compromise: Instead of the balls consuming at a pr-character, make the nullifier a charged device...
Considering the drop in recent Ball use, lets say... 10 - 15 charges, at a slightly higher price than the ball (say 20% increase), then you need to get a new one, and the balls remain as they are now, and the nullifier still only affects the player in question.
The nullifier auto activates (hence consumes itself) upon a ball activation.
All numbers are made up on the spot btw.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
Hey, I am entirely fine with the nullifier being consumed on use... Seems logical actually.
However...
Item X can affect 20, but eats one...
Item Y can affect 1, and eats one...
There is a serious flaw in that logic... Unless of cause you are suggesting that the nullifier has the same range of affect as the ball does... So if I use it right under the ball, everyone in the same effect radius should also be "nullified".
No, just you.
It's not myfault ifyoufeel trolledbymyDisco ball...Sorry'boutit.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
It's hilarious how hurt some people are over not being able to make everyone dance
Let's give them a chance to make their case... negotiate with them...
The only thing Diplomacy dosen't work on is children and egoists (and the extremists, but its not like anyone is going to blow up the server, apart from the hampsters)... I think theres still reason here, so no need to provoke a situation.
Not quite... We compromised... It's what civilized people do... Found a solution that neither is fully happy with, but can live with.
EDIT: On a side note: I never "disagreed" with you in that sense... But I AM opposed to others being able to impose their variant of "fun" on others... It's not distaste of the balls (as I generally ignore them), but this IS an issue for some people, and as such had to be addressed eventually, just like the ice-cube grenade was.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
Coming soon for all you people that don't like to party! Rock on.... :P
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Thank the creator of the multiverses for that thing. I got so anoyed from the discoball, i had to switch the map instance everytime to escape the stupid light and soundshow. I hope the anti-discoball device mutes also the stupid disco-music, pls or atleast unlocks and opens the airpressure vents of the starbase.:D
Thank the creator of the multiverses for that thing. I got so anoyed from the discoball, i had to switch the map instance everytime to escape the stupid light and soundshow.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
noun \(ˌ)kər-ˈmə-jən\ : a person (especially an old man) who is easily annoyed or angered and who often complains
which describes the majority of the forumbase, if you think about it
it also pretty much describes hard core trek fans in general, what with their crusade to basically suck the fun out of Star Trek becuase some guys got it into their heads that it needed to be high brow philosophy despite attempts at that pretty much just being pedantic, tedious, and basically full of itself.
The word "troll" is being tossed around a lot here, and unfairly so. Again, the anti-amp crowd - despite having an opt-out on the way - is dragging the thread into hostile territory, while many of those who previous argued in favor of the party amps are generally posting in good humor. Others, not naming names, but it's pretty obvious which side of the debate they stand on, are, as usual, resorting to petty namecalling and other unsavory behavior (the very reason, I might add, why disco ball threads are no longer allowed to begin with).
I guess it shows you the overall maturity/mental capacity of these players. Kind of sad, but, unfortunately, quite unsurprising.
Nice try to fixate the blame on the 'anti-amp crowd'. But just as many 'pro-amp people' are here dragging things down along with everyone else. Pretending to be on high ground when the Mods show up wont save either side.
Nice try to fixate the blame on the 'anti-amp crowd'. But just as many 'pro-amp people' are here dragging things down along with everyone else. Pretending to be on high ground when the Mods show up wont save either side.
The mods are already here (askray)...
The thread is alive, and seemingly no one of us have been committing a ToS violating action (no threads have been altered).
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
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Hey, I am entirely fine with the nullifier being consumed on use... Seems logical actually.
However...
Item X can affect 20, but eats one...
Item Y can affect 1, and eats one...
There is a serious flaw in that logic... Unless of cause you are suggesting that the nullifier has the same range of affect as the ball does... So if I use it right under the ball, everyone in the same effect radius should also be "nullified".
Edit:
OR, a reasonable compromise: Instead of the balls consuming at a pr-character, make the nullifier a charged device...
Considering the drop in recent Ball use, lets say... 10 - 15 charges, at a slightly higher price than the ball (say 20% increase), then you need to get a new one, and the balls remain as they are now, and the nullifier still only affects the player in question.
The nullifier auto activates (hence consumes itself) upon a ball activation.
All numbers are made up on the spot btw.
No, just you.
R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Look in my post... I made an edit...
i have to agree it is funny
system Lord Baal is dead
You know what, I would be happy with that.
Wow, did we actually agree!?!:eek:
R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy
Let's give them a chance to make their case... negotiate with them...
The only thing Diplomacy dosen't work on is children and egoists (and the extremists, but its not like anyone is going to blow up the server, apart from the hampsters)... I think theres still reason here, so no need to provoke a situation.
Not quite... We compromised... It's what civilized people do... Found a solution that neither is fully happy with, but can live with.
EDIT: On a side note: I never "disagreed" with you in that sense... But I AM opposed to others being able to impose their variant of "fun" on others... It's not distaste of the balls (as I generally ignore them), but this IS an issue for some people, and as such had to be addressed eventually, just like the ice-cube grenade was.
Thank the creator of the multiverses for that thing. I got so anoyed from the discoball, i had to switch the map instance everytime to escape the stupid light and soundshow. I hope the anti-discoball device mutes also the stupid disco-music, pls or atleast unlocks and opens the airpressure vents of the starbase.:D
the nullifier just stops the forced dancing
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
I'm actually willing to bet people aren't really upset over this at all, and are just invoking Poe's Law.
it also pretty much describes hard core trek fans in general, what with their crusade to basically suck the fun out of Star Trek becuase some guys got it into their heads that it needed to be high brow philosophy despite attempts at that pretty much just being pedantic, tedious, and basically full of itself.
Nice try to fixate the blame on the 'anti-amp crowd'. But just as many 'pro-amp people' are here dragging things down along with everyone else. Pretending to be on high ground when the Mods show up wont save either side.
The mods are already here (askray)...
The thread is alive, and seemingly no one of us have been committing a ToS violating action (no threads have been altered).
DO NOT BLASPHEME!
As you can see. The quote I commented on was pages before Askry popped his head in.
Please....... tell me you are................................ joking................... Valoreah.
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I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
That would make sense. And it's fair. Balance and all that.