Thought the whole point of it being a Dreadnaught and having less of the arrays would be cause they were gonna actually make it feel dreadnaught worthy. They could have done this by switching around the boff seating and made it a one of a kind ship for the Federation instead they simply did as little as possible and tossed in a hanger and called it a day. Devs really boned this one. Why have a Dreadnaught name with less comm array choices if your not gonna make it unique. Crazy that they wasted all that time and got ppl hoping they were actually gonna fix this ship to do almost really nothing to actually help its performance besides give it fleet stats and add a hanger and console.
HMMM, as I understand it they can't just totally change the BO layout of an existing ship without messing something up for those who already have that ship.
So the only thing they CAN do is change BOFF slots to UNI.
What I'd say the Fleet Galaxy should get is either the same ENS UNI as the Negh'var (which is a fine ship as it is) OR get the LtC UNI as the other 5 ENG slot ship: the Romulan Fleet Ha'apax.
Oh, BTW my dream layout for the (Fleet) Galaxy-R is also based on the one featured on the D'deridex but with a tilt towards exploration. Remember: one is a ship with "war" in its name while the other is a ship of exploration.;)
My proposal would be
ENG: Comm, Ens
Sci: LtC, Ens
Tac: LtC
This way the ship features all three but puts emphasis on the three categories in the same order as the consoles do.
Foolish OP, this is a gaming forum on the Internet! No-one is allowed to have different opinions! I am RIGHT, you are WRONG and I will keep shoving my arguments down everyone's throat until they either agree with me or give up trying!
I admit I'm kinda bored of the whole Galaxy melodrama now and it'll probably keep boiling for a while longer, the other rule of the Internet is that every grudge needs to last at least a couple of months - and constantly shoehorn the subject into every discussion you can find.
Ah well, at least Cryptic don't listen to anyone here.
HAHAHA!
You sir are not only correct but a genius!
"When people ask stupid questions I feel obligated to give sarcastic answers."
Keltoi Class... fan design. You KNOW you want one In-game!
I have to agree with this. I think the whole galaxy "revamp" was all about the X (ship I'm least interested in) and the refit and retrofit just thrown in as side notes. Very disappointing.
It's not myfault ifyoufeel trolledbymyDisco ball...Sorry'boutit.
If you think the Galaxy ships suck, you're doing it wrong. I see a lot of whining because the Gal-X doesn't have a Lt. Commander tac slot. You want that on a cruiser? Get a damn assault cruiser or excelsior retrofit. The Gal-X is meant to be a tank, not a friggen escort. You are suppose to be taking all the damage so your sissy team mates, who can't keep themselves alive if their real lives depended on it, can take the enemies down. That is its purpose.
And I have to say, one would think with all the complaints on the forums about the Galaxy ships sucking, nobody would be flying them. Well have you been around the game lately? Ever since the announcement of the reboot, there are Galaxies and Dreadnaughts EVERYWHERE in the game now. It seems that the majority of players really don't give a TRIBBLE if it has a Lt. Commander tac station.
I purchased the Exploration Cruiser Retrofit, Refit, and Galaxy variant bridge pack over a year ago. At first I thought the Galaxy retrofit sucked and I couldn't keep myself alive or do much damage in it.
Well now that I'm more experienced with the game, have a better build and better equipment, I tried out my Galaxy Retrofit after the reboot dev blog and man is it fun. Not only can I stay a live better, I can deal a fair amount of damage. I'm certainly no DPS king, but I'm no wuss either.
Now I have a Fleet Exploration Cruiser Retrofit AND a Fleet Dreadnaught Cruiser on my main engineer. I'm happy with it and I think I'm doing quite well with them. Edit: Oh yeah! I also got a guest invite to a fleet starbase via NoP Public Service channel and I purchased Yellowstone Runabouts hangar pet for my Fleet Dreadnaught Cruiser. So suck it.
Tbh you should be lucky that a ship actually got upgraded, there are plenty of ships blue and red side that are more in need of a revamp to make them worth using again yet the Galaxy was first because of the huge amounts of complaining.
So you are asking to replace the BO layout of a ship that is subject to constant criticism for its current layout with the BO layout from ANOTHER ship that is ALSO subject to constant complaints for its BO layout....
PLEASE NOTE: while i cannot make any real rules for this thread, since i have no power in this forum (LOTR reference for ya) i would like to make it clear, this thread is meant for POSITIVE posts about the fleet gal x, or just the regular gal x if you want to. i will politely ask you to take any negative opinions somewhere else please
first, a very quick THANK YOU! to the devs for making this awsome ship! this thing is tanky as heck, and i love it! im not a DPS freak like so many other players here, i ALWAYS built my cruisers to outlast the enemy instead of outgunning them, and would therefore like to say thanks for the Fleet Gal X, it suits my playstyle PERFECTLY and the Venture skin just looks amasing on it!
i think they may have fixed the lance, i did some pvp testing yesterday against a defiant and i never missed a shot, also the "lance shotgun" from the saucer seperation is real powerfull! i used it against another gal x player and took her health down by 1/3 just using that!
Actually its more along the lines of you have seen this forum thread and have decided to troll it. Either way, Loads of people are unhappy with the galaxy. So i suggest you go troll somewhere else.
I agree that it was kind of pointless to change the Galaxy-X's Ensign Tac to Universal while leaving the Galaxy-R's Ensign as Engineer. It was the R that needed the change, not the X.
My only complaint, is the fact they still really didn't fix the phase lance in standard mode. Still a low powered piece of junk compared to the scimitar's big weapon.
Hanger is nice, gives a tad more DPM when I need it, but it's still going to be regulated to EC grinder on foundry EC grind missions.
Right now my Regent is doing it WAY better. And once I get all lvl 12 voth weapons on my battlecruiser[yeah I dropped some $$$ recently], Dread will be further relegated.
Don't get me wrong, newer dread, even the c-store one tanks WAY better now, but they still didn't get it completely right.
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Tbh you should be lucky that a ship actually got upgraded, there are plenty of ships blue and red side that are more in need of a revamp to make them worth using again yet the Galaxy was first because of the huge amounts of complaining.
There are many ships in need of love, that is true. I'm sure they want to get to those as well, but it does take time. I'm not surprised that they would begin with the iconic ones.
So you are asking to replace the BO layout of a ship that is subject to constant criticism for its current layout with the BO layout from ANOTHER ship that is ALSO subject to constant complaints for its BO layout....
Mhm.....
How anyone could complain about having a lieutenant commander slot for all three departments is beyond me, but then again; this is the internet...
Some people are going to complain even if their ship has 8 universal commander boff slots, but there would be nothing for reasonable people to complain about if the Galaxy & the Neg'var had the D'D layout.
Thanks for the expansion that had "as much content as the last"
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
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It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
With all this galaxy stuff, you'd think we were talking about the Galactica.
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If you think the Galaxy ships suck, you're doing it wrong. I see a lot of whining because the Gal-X doesn't have a Lt. Commander tac slot. You want that on a cruiser? Get a damn assault cruiser or excelsior retrofit. The Gal-X is meant to be a tank, not a friggen escort. You are suppose to be taking all the damage so your sissy team mates, who can't keep themselves alive if their real lives depended on it, can take the enemies down. That is its purpose.
But all my team mates *can* keep themselves alive. Meanwhile I'm doing little relative damage. There are no cookies in the game for soaking up damage, only for killing stuff faster. Moreover your tank is only good for keeping itself alive, while science-heavy ships are needed for keeping your noob team mates alive. Engi-heavy ships are irrelevant to the game.
And I have to say, one would think with all the complaints on the forums about the Galaxy ships sucking, nobody would be flying them. Well have you been around the game lately?
Wait a week and see... A lot of those are people who had already made the mistake of buying it and were hoping that it wouldnt still suck.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I don't condone just copy-pasting the D'Ds layout, because there has to be some disparity between ships otherwise they might as well all be the same. That being said, as a dreadnought cruiser, I think it should have had a boff layout more like the Vo'Quv (which is also a Dreadnought), where by it's additional two weapon slots compensate for the lack of a second hangar and the ability to launch frigate-class pets.
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Yeah, amazing. Even if cryptic didnt hear the customers at all about the Galaxy pack, people still buying the pack everywhere... lol. Thats the reason cryptic will never hear the customers. But well, thats not new anyways. But its incredible how many people complaining about cryptic not hearing out their advises and opinions, and now everyone is buying the dam pack xD. Seriously guys..
So you are asking to replace the BO layout of a ship that is subject to constant criticism for its current layout with the BO layout from ANOTHER ship that is ALSO subject to constant complaints for its BO layout....
Mhm.....
It's just the trolls being proactive and thinking one step ahead. If they're successful in getting the D'D boff layout ported over to the Galaxy then they get to complain endlessly about how the ship can no longer support A2B builds! Genius.
Yeah, amazing. Even if cryptic didnt hear the customers at all about the Galaxy pack, people still buying the pack everywhere... lol. Thats the reason cryptic will never hear the customers. But well, thats not new anyways. But its incredible how many people complaining about cryptic not hearing out their advises and opinions, and now everyone is buying the dam pack xD. Seriously guys..
Perhaps he already had the X from before? Also do you ever have anything remotely positive to say?
NERF CANNONS - THEY NEED A 50% NERF
CRUISERS NEED A 206% HULL BUFF
My only complaint, is the fact they still really didn't fix the phase lance in standard mode. Still a low powered piece of junk compared to the scimitar's big weapon.
My lance is putting out 25-50k per shot. It might not be a scimitar but it's not weak.
I don't condone just copy-pasting the D'Ds layout, because there has to be some disparity between ships otherwise they might as well all be the same. That being said, as a dreadnought cruiser, I think it should have had a boff layout more like the Vo'Quv (which is also a Dreadnought), where by it's additional two weapon slots compensate for the lack of a second hangar and the ability to launch frigate-class pets.
They would still feel different, but comparable. One of them is a Warbird with a singularity core, so they obviously wouldn't be very similar other than boff arrangement and slow turning.
As for the Vo'Quv, it is really only referred to as a dreadnought in its NPC variety. Although I suppose that makes it a dreadnought of sorts. In any case, I would be fine with that configuration too, although I feel it's a bit 'sciencey' for the Galaxy X.
It's just the trolls being proactive and thinking one step ahead. If they're successful in getting the D'D boff layout ported over to the Galaxy then they get to complain endlessly about how the ship can no longer support A2B builds! Genius.
You're probably right...sad, but true
Thanks for the expansion that had "as much content as the last"
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
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So the only thing they CAN do is change BOFF slots to UNI.
What I'd say the Fleet Galaxy should get is either the same ENS UNI as the Negh'var (which is a fine ship as it is) OR get the LtC UNI as the other 5 ENG slot ship: the Romulan Fleet Ha'apax.
Oh, BTW my dream layout for the (Fleet) Galaxy-R is also based on the one featured on the D'deridex but with a tilt towards exploration. Remember: one is a ship with "war" in its name while the other is a ship of exploration.;)
My proposal would be
ENG: Comm, Ens
Sci: LtC, Ens
Tac: LtC
This way the ship features all three but puts emphasis on the three categories in the same order as the consoles do.
I still have a Galaxy-R stashed away from back when they were totally new.
If I wanted to fly one again that's what I'd do as well.
No, please, just no
HAHAHA!
You sir are not only correct but a genius!
Keltoi Class... fan design. You KNOW you want one In-game!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy
And I have to say, one would think with all the complaints on the forums about the Galaxy ships sucking, nobody would be flying them. Well have you been around the game lately? Ever since the announcement of the reboot, there are Galaxies and Dreadnaughts EVERYWHERE in the game now. It seems that the majority of players really don't give a TRIBBLE if it has a Lt. Commander tac station.
I purchased the Exploration Cruiser Retrofit, Refit, and Galaxy variant bridge pack over a year ago. At first I thought the Galaxy retrofit sucked and I couldn't keep myself alive or do much damage in it.
Well now that I'm more experienced with the game, have a better build and better equipment, I tried out my Galaxy Retrofit after the reboot dev blog and man is it fun. Not only can I stay a live better, I can deal a fair amount of damage. I'm certainly no DPS king, but I'm no wuss either.
Now I have a Fleet Exploration Cruiser Retrofit AND a Fleet Dreadnaught Cruiser on my main engineer. I'm happy with it and I think I'm doing quite well with them. Edit: Oh yeah! I also got a guest invite to a fleet starbase via NoP Public Service channel and I purchased Yellowstone Runabouts hangar pet for my Fleet Dreadnaught Cruiser. So suck it.
So you are asking to replace the BO layout of a ship that is subject to constant criticism for its current layout with the BO layout from ANOTHER ship that is ALSO subject to constant complaints for its BO layout....
Mhm.....
first, a very quick THANK YOU! to the devs for making this awsome ship! this thing is tanky as heck, and i love it! im not a DPS freak like so many other players here, i ALWAYS built my cruisers to outlast the enemy instead of outgunning them, and would therefore like to say thanks for the Fleet Gal X, it suits my playstyle PERFECTLY and the Venture skin just looks amasing on it!
i think they may have fixed the lance, i did some pvp testing yesterday against a defiant and i never missed a shot, also the "lance shotgun" from the saucer seperation is real powerfull! i used it against another gal x player and took her health down by 1/3 just using that!
thank you for this awsome ship Cryptic!
Hanger is nice, gives a tad more DPM when I need it, but it's still going to be regulated to EC grinder on foundry EC grind missions.
Right now my Regent is doing it WAY better. And once I get all lvl 12 voth weapons on my battlecruiser[yeah I dropped some $$$ recently], Dread will be further relegated.
Don't get me wrong, newer dread, even the c-store one tanks WAY better now, but they still didn't get it completely right.
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http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
There are many ships in need of love, that is true. I'm sure they want to get to those as well, but it does take time. I'm not surprised that they would begin with the iconic ones.
How anyone could complain about having a lieutenant commander slot for all three departments is beyond me, but then again; this is the internet...
Some people are going to complain even if their ship has 8 universal commander boff slots, but there would be nothing for reasonable people to complain about if the Galaxy & the Neg'var had the D'D layout.
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
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http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
Wait a week and see... A lot of those are people who had already made the mistake of buying it and were hoping that it wouldnt still suck.
You win
Again :cool:.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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For some people, "I'm starting a thread to complain about all the complainers complaining" never goes out of style.
...until they start taking their medication again. :P
I know, right? Mention ARC and your thread gets assimilated.
Galaxy threads are OP, plz nerf.
It's just the trolls being proactive and thinking one step ahead. If they're successful in getting the D'D boff layout ported over to the Galaxy then they get to complain endlessly about how the ship can no longer support A2B builds! Genius.
I'm positive the whole Gal-X revamp gimmick is just a scheme to enrage the Galaxy zealots so their QQ will drown out the ARC haters. :P
That's exactly why I'm only participating currently in one "Galaxy" Thread.
Carp. This makes 2...
Perhaps he already had the X from before? Also do you ever have anything remotely positive to say?
CRUISERS NEED A 206% HULL BUFF
They would still feel different, but comparable. One of them is a Warbird with a singularity core, so they obviously wouldn't be very similar other than boff arrangement and slow turning.
As for the Vo'Quv, it is really only referred to as a dreadnought in its NPC variety. Although I suppose that makes it a dreadnought of sorts. In any case, I would be fine with that configuration too, although I feel it's a bit 'sciencey' for the Galaxy X.
You're probably right...sad, but true
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
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It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol