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  • mattmiraclemattmiracle Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    amahood wrote: »
    looks to me like alot of people are having the same problem I am. Fact is, if the problem didn't exist before season 8 , then it's only logical that it is still STO's or cryptic's fault to fix.

    That's ok, I've seen how nothing is going to be done with it, so I'm finished with STO for now.

    Since the attitude of sto is it's not their problem, then there's no point me spending any more money on this game.

    that's sad, I really like sto.

    Yet if that's their attitude I've had enough. And I don't doubt that alot of others whom feel as I do, will do the same.

    Goodbye sto, too bad you aren't willing to admit your own faults.

    :(

    How can they admit a fault that is not theirs? As most everyone here that has posted their trace routes to the patch server have noted, it is COGENTCO that is the problem. If it was on Cryptic's end, then the ping times for the last hop would be out of the norm.

    Please keep in mind that there is A LOT of reasons for lag and disconnects. Could there be something in the last patch that aggravates the bad ping times; sure. However, until the COGENTCO ping times get back in the norm, there is nothing that points that it is Cryptic's fault.

    I wish you would reconsider quitting STO since you like it. If it was a situation with Cryptic that I feel was their fault, you better believe I would be hitting the devs up about it every time I got an opportunity. If you have not done so, please post your trace route to the Cryptic server so that everyone can see. It may be COGENTCO (safe bet) that is causing your problems or it could be something else. Without it, we are just guessing.
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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Okay, I can't be the only one suffering from this. I mentioned it to Branflakes during last night's Community Rampage - to which he said everything was fine on their end - but it's persisted since then, to the point where the game is almost unplayable due to repeated "Server Not Responding" messages.

    Just to clarify, i'm in the UK and everything else seems to work fine when it comes to what I can see - internet, other online games etc. If it's a regional/national issue, then, well, I have no idea.

    The most curious thing is it only seems to be affecting my Klingon toon. Playing as my Fed or Romulan seems to be fine. Touch wood.

    Anyone else suffering from this lag?
    You're just a machine. And machines can be broken.
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  • brewtolomusbrewtolomus Member Posts: 277
    edited December 2013
    A lot of rubberbanding in space and ground missions. But it seems to decrease in severity after about a 1/2 hour or so.
    I thought it was my ISP, but everything is in order according to them.

    *shrugs*
  • jumpingjsjumpingjs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    My friend and I are getting it too.

    Both UK based.


    Both good laptops, both decent internet.
    Hopefully I'll come back from my break; this break is fun; I play intellectual games.

    I hope STO get's better ...
  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    All of you who are suffering from Lag need to look at this thread...

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=225155
  • depc101depc101 Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    This is a total joke now sense the winter patch lag is total game killer.
    Disconnects all the time rubber banding, server not responding.
    Just tried to do crystalline which was really hard with rubber banding and server not responding got disconnect now im on 2 hour afk ban. :mad:
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  • fenr00kfenr00k Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Oooh, de ja vu..... lol
  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Pro Tip: If your "fix the servers" thread is the only one on Page 1, it's probably not the servers.
  • thegalaxy31thegalaxy31 Member Posts: 1,211 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    fenr00k wrote: »
    Oooh, de ja vu..... lol
    No kidding.... this thread seems strangely familiar.
    I would love to visit this star in-game...or maybe this one!
    Won't SOMEONE please think of the CHILDREN?!
  • breygornbreygorn Member Posts: 189 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    It might not even be the servers fault, if you even considered that.
    anyway, this would be better answered in the troubleshooting section.
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  • fenr00kfenr00k Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    breygorn wrote: »
    It might not even be the servers fault, if you even considered that.
    anyway, this would be better answered in the troubleshooting section.

    Freaking familiar even? :cool:
  • kamenriderzero1kamenriderzero1 Member Posts: 906 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    has it occuared to you this could also be on your end and/or a connection error?
    Everywhere I look, people are screaming about how bad Cryptic is.
    What's my position?
    That people should know what they're screaming about!
    (paraphrased from "The Newsroom)
  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    depc101 wrote: »
    Disconnects all the time rubber banding, server not responding.
    Just tried to do crystalline which was really hard with rubber banding and server not responding got disconnect now im on 2 hour afk ban. :mad:
    fenr00k wrote: »
    Freaking familiar even? :cool:

    What could be more familiar than someone who says they tried something that requires a decent connection after realizing they don't have one, then blames STO for...what, not reminding them how bad their connection is?
  • depc101depc101 Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    On earth space dock all is ok,
    jump in to crystal not playable,
    Back to space dock all ok,
    Jump in to pvp being that I cant do any pve for 2 hours all ok,

    Last night doing ground voth all fine,
    Change to another instance not playable,
    Change to another instance all fine.

    Its like some severs that have some instances are broken.
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  • kamenriderzero1kamenriderzero1 Member Posts: 906 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    If that's the case, then it's not an issue with the servers.
    Everywhere I look, people are screaming about how bad Cryptic is.
    What's my position?
    That people should know what they're screaming about!
    (paraphrased from "The Newsroom)
  • fenr00kfenr00k Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    A simple nugget of information.

    The more people in an instance, the more load on YOUR cpu and graphics card. Change instance, or turn down your settings to reduce load. Job done.

    Strange really, if I start having problems with STO, I run a speed test and ping test, sometimes a traceroute. 99 times out of 100 one of these reveals a problem with my connection. The 100th time the forum is filled with 100st of posts from people unable to play. :rolleyes:
  • depc101depc101 Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Im not the only 1 there are multiple ppl in my fleet having the same thing.
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  • fenr00kfenr00k Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    There are multiple people with dodgy connections, or on the same ROUTE to the server, or with the same hardware that isn't quite compatable with STO.....

    STO is a PC game, they don't have the luxury of identical hardware and software combinations that console devs have.
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I've actually been seeing this too. Most of the time its fine, then a random instance will be laggy to the point where its almost unplayable. switch instance or go to a different zone and its fine straight away. I played an STF and it was horrible. played another one after and it ran as smooth as normal. played the winter wonderland a hundred times and its fine, then one instance is really bad.

    this is not a wide scale problem or everyone would have noticed it by now, and ive only seen it a few times out of many hours of play but it is possible that some people can get problems and not others with the way there system is set up. its happened before.

    im inclined to think this is more on cryptic's end as usually if its the players end the problem is more consistently there than random instances every now and then.
  • tinkerstormtinkerstorm Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Pro Tip: If your "fix the servers" thread is the only one on Page 1, it's probably not the servers.
    Nothing pro about that. That's an amateur tip.

    The server is randomly dropping connections today.
  • englishnodenglishnod Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Likewise i have also had the same rubber banding and lag issues as others in this thread, this has happened to me during the fleet 20 player mission.

    this has happened twice out of the ten or more times i have run that mission during the course of the past few days (since the patch on Thursday), i will say now a trace-route and nettest showed no oddity.

    i would also like to point out that this issue is looking more like an internal connection issue of cryptics or an over capacity server? as it would either happen not at all my end or all the time, yes some of you can argue that different times of day effect connection speeds yada yada yada and i would generally agree with you but in this case i have pinged the patch server when it has happened and all ping's have been below 100.

    It is definitely not graphics lag as that would happen all the time with this game ;)

    the next time this happens i will certainly run multiple tracert's etc, speed test and so on just so everyone knows its not my end.

    Also this game has been running fine for weeks/months for me, and in all honesty nothing has changed on my pc in just as long, same programs etc etc so its not any changed locally that could effect this.
    Short of doing a clean install of STO and seeing how that goes i think i will just suffer and endure any penalty's imposed by an underwhelming penalty system that does not take into account for connection issue theirs/our ends
  • depc101depc101 Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    k, update spent my time on ground voth instance 19, 28, 16, 22, 23 were fine but 23, 3, and 27 not playable.
    Then a borg stf all fine.
    And back to crystalline and not playable, alt f4 logged.
    Launcher did nothing just sat there.
    Try agine not problem this time stuck me back in the crystal I alt f4ed out of and it was no longer lagging.
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  • vfpfyasko1vfpfyasko1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Like the title says, what is up with the server today? Ive had drops to server not responding to massive lag and stoppage in game. Is anyone around during the weekend watching the server or not?
  • alarikunalarikun Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Yeah, seriously... constant lag today. What the hell is going on... we barely got through our STF when it hit... cannot play the game like this...
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  • vfpfyasko1vfpfyasko1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    alarikun wrote: »
    Yeah, seriously... constant lag today. What the hell is going on... we barely got through our STF when it hit... cannot play the game like this...

    I know what you mean, i have beamed into space as my avatar, can move when attempting to move. The STFs is beyond being able to play because of the problems. Ive never seen it like this.
  • vfpfyasko1vfpfyasko1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Ive had the same problem and it has only been or gotten worse in the last 2-3hrs, ive been in STFs and getting Server Not Responding, or complete disconnect and i thought perhaps it was my connection however check it and it wasn't. This is just odd, hey Cryptic anyone paying attention to the server on the weekends?
  • hasukurobihasukurobi Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I have never really had connection issues unless there was something big and obvious going wrong with the servers. That said: I am also seeing pretty solid lag. Not all the time or in all places but every now and then. Most of the time it clears up (without me having to switch instances or anything) but it still hits now and then. This does not appear to be on my end and it is a recent development. Not sure if it is just a lot more traffic because of it being the holidays or what.
  • vfpfyasko1vfpfyasko1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Nope, you are not the only one too many and Cryptic is doing nothing about it.
  • dawsonmichaeldawsonmichael Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I have not had reliable gameplay since last patch. I do notice that depending on the patch the gameplay will improve and I'll have no or very little problems or like the last one and I get lots of problems either loading or with bad lag "server not responding". I wasn't having problems this week until after the patch but now after the patch the gameplay had been bad lots of rubberbanding, no server response or the game won't launch or load.
  • themariethemarie Member Posts: 1,055 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Both STO and NW are basically unplayable at this time. Severe rubber-banding and lagging along with 30-45 second stretches of SNR.

    Been like this since this morning. I understand people over in Europe are experiencing the same issue, and I have some friends in Delaware with similar issues.

    Either something is wrong at Cryptic or once again the pipe that Cryptic relies on to distribute is having issues.
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