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Re: The Voth's Bio-Engineered Dinos

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    flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    @neoakiraii, love the sig. ;)
    You seem to be forgetting that those raptors in all likelihood are in fact Voth themselves.
    This. Raptors were one of the several dinosaur species most likely to evolve into something intelligent.
    The Voth evolved from the Hadrosaur. Not the Velociraptor.
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    hawke89305092hawke89305092 Member Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    You know, if nothing else, there is epic screenshot potential in taking a bat'leth against a T-Rex...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    amosov78amosov78 Member Posts: 1,495 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I wished I'd made my KDF character a giant Gorn now, I could've re-enacted some epic Godzilla battles. :P
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    johnstewardjohnsteward Member Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    amosov78 wrote: »
    I wished I'd made my KDF character a giant Gorn now, I could've re-enacted some epic Godzilla battles. :P

    Lol nice idea;)

    I still dont think its good trek but it will be fun nonetheless
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    misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    You seem to be forgetting that those raptors in all likelihood are in fact Voth themselves.

    Not very likely when you watch "Distant Origin".
    The closest match to Voth DNA the Voyager crew could find was the Hadrosaur

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Hadrosaur.jpg

    which is not exactly a raptor.;)
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    flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    ...you've got to wonder really...

    ...everything that we see we do so because CBS 'green-lit' it...

    ...CBS apparently wont green-light a T5/Fleet Constitution/Exeter Class cause it is too old...

    ...Dinosaurs (of the T-Rex variety) are considerably older than a Constitution Class, and yet, have been given that 'green light'...

    ...just an observation...
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    misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    flash525 wrote: »
    ...you've got to wonder really...

    ...everything that we see we do so because CBS 'green-lit' it...

    ...CBS apparently wont green-light a T5/Fleet Constitution/Exeter Class cause it is too old...

    ...Dinosaurs (of the T-Rex variety) are considerably older than a Constitution Class, and yet, have been given that 'green light'...

    ...just an observation...

    Humans are also several thousand years older than that particular ship...

    ...just an observation...

    ;)
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    misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Oh, just for fun:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCgDzUtLkCA

    (yes you can see the human legs but I'm sure the people were too scared to notice)
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    flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    misterde3 wrote: »
    Humans are also several thousand years older than that particular ship...

    ...just an observation...
    Hah, a very good point Mr.

    I was more... getting to the point though that CBS wont approve a fan favourite ship for end-game use, but they'd approve Armoured Dinosaurs with Lasers for use within Star Trek.
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    fovrelfovrel Member Posts: 1,448 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The art looks promising, however I can share some of the critisism here. What to think of a technological highly developped species that uses a less evolved sister species as, yeah as what? cannonfodder? That doesn't make much sense.

    I like the mechanics though. Why do we not have more robots? Something that can fight, trim the grass and make you a cup of cappuchino.

    Female Voth, a hot item, I suppose. How do they look like? My guess is they look (almost) the same as males. They lay eggs of course. Again, my guess is that they send them to a company that fertilizes them, breeds them et voila new Voth. So much for a family life.
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    saekiithsaekiith Member Posts: 534 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    First off, wasn't the Minister supposed to be a female?

    Then... why use such a lesser evolved species?
    Shock and Awe... you WILL demoralize everyone that has to face a gorram T-Rex-Derivate with huge Energyweapons mounted on its head...
    I am pretty sure in a "non-game setting" even the most hardened Starfleet Officers would tuck tail when seeing this on the field and even the Klingons would think twice about hand-to-hand combat with that thing...
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    flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    fovrel wrote: »
    The art looks promising, however I can share some of the critisism here. What to think of a technological highly developped species that uses a less evolved sister species as, yeah as what? cannonfodder? That doesn't make much sense.
    I doubt very much that a T-Rex would be cannon fodder.

    Think of the Rex as your Ground Dreadnought. ;)

    ...and then:

    Stegosaurus (or Ankylosaurus) for the Frigate (armoured)
    Triceratops would be your Heavy Escort
    Brachiosaurus (or) Diplodocus for your Heavy Cruiser

    ...still working on the Science Ships

    Then Again, Dinosaurs can be friendly right? http://forums.filefront.com/members/78734-flash525-albums-photo-manipulation-picture10444-voth-barney.jpg
    fovrel wrote: »
    Female Voth, a hot item, I suppose. How do they look like? My guess is they look (almost) the same as males.
    They'd probably be similar to Female Saurian; slightly slimmer with TRIBBLE. That's likely it. That's how the Voth appeared in Voyager. Maybe they'll give them smaller heads with different textures, but they'll practically look the same.

    In truth, if you look at us (humans) what are the main differences? From a glance it's our build and the fact the female of the species have TRIBBLE. Little else is of consequence.
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    misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    flash525 wrote: »
    Hah, a very good point Mr.

    I was more... getting to the point though that CBS wont approve a fan favourite ship for end-game use, but they'd approve Armoured Dinosaurs with Lasers for use within Star Trek.

    I guessed as much.:)
    But context is something we shouldn't ignore altogether.

    While the M4 Sherman, the Tiger and T-34 are not longer used in the nations that produced them, those nations still use dogs and horses for certain tasks even though they're a much older "design".
    It's because there's still a use for them because technology can't readily replace them, their sensory ability and their agility (yet).
    Horses can just walk sideways and move over certain terrain, vehicles can't do all the same things. So we still see them in use.
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    flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    misterde3 wrote: »
    While the M4 Sherman, the Tiger and T-34 are not longer used in the nations that produced them, those nations still use dogs and horses for certain tasks even though they're a much older "design".

    It's because there's still a use for them because technology can't readily replace them, their sensory ability and their agility (yet).

    Horses can just walk sideways and move over certain terrain, vehicles can't do all the same things. So we still see them in use.
    Haha, whilst you're very much correct, I think you're taking my meaning a little too seriously.

    CBS (who owns the rights to Star Trek) wont approve a high level Constitution/Exeter, but they will approve an actual Dinosaur with Space Lasers. Say it out loud and ask yourself if it sounds right. :P
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    khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I want my own battlemech!!


    "Last Engage! Magical Girl Origami-san" is in print! Now with three times more rainbows.

    Support the "Armored Unicorn" vehicle initiative today!

    Thanks for Harajuku. Now let's get a real "Magical Girl" costume!
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    centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    khayuung wrote: »
    I want my own battlemech!!

    Battlemech Shmattlemech. I want my playable Lazer T-Rex Captain.
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    misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    flash525 wrote: »
    Haha, whilst you're very much correct, I think you're taking my meaning a little too seriously.

    CBS (who owns the rights to Star Trek) wont approve a high level Constitution/Exeter, but they will approve an actual Dinosaur with Space Lasers. Say it out loud and ask yourself if it sounds right. :P

    What can I say?
    Advanced Hadrosaurs escaped from earth during the mass extinction with space ships and flew into the Delta Quadrant...and humans never found any hint that those guys had by that point evolved to a species physically and mentally capable of space travel beyond what we can do today.
    Compared to that armed animals aren't really that much.

    There's also the cold hard fact that on several occasions the well-developed lore of the Federation is not only to its advantage but also to its deriment while it's the exact opposite for just about everyone else.
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    neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I'll just leave this here http://youtu.be/GFuNhoU1qjQ?t=2m50s
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    idronaidrona Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    All I care about and want to know is if the laserdinos are canon or not?


    No.. no, I'm just messing. *hides*
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    misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    idrona wrote: »
    All I care about and want to know is if the laserdinos are canon or not?


    No.. no, I'm just messing. *hides*

    Laser Dinos were not in the shows and games are not canon.
    That should answer the question.;)
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    idronaidrona Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    misterde3 wrote: »
    Laser Dinos were not in the shows and games are not canon.
    That should answer the question.;)

    Thank you sir. :)
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    misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    idrona wrote: »
    Thank you sir. :)

    NP, feel better or worse now?
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    idronaidrona Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    misterde3 wrote: »
    NP, feel better or worse now?

    Better, I need a hug though..
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    oldravenman3025oldravenman3025 Member Posts: 1,892 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I'm not really crazy about attack dinosaurs and powered battle armor being in the game, but I won't complain. If it sells, it makes Cryptic money. And that money means the game lives longer and pays their staff (they gotta eat, ya know). So, why the hell not? Bring it.
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    vocmcpvocmcp Member Posts: 1,134 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Well I quite like what I'm hearing about the new Season. The holding certainly looks promising.

    What worries me a bit are the Dinosaurs. Seriously? T-Rex's with lasers? Are we going Saurian Tales Online now? Dino Trek? Turok Space Edition? While it might seem like a cool idea in the first place please don't turn this game into Jurassic Park. I guess there's no chance of getting rid of them anymore but please just don't overdo it then. Thank you.

    Having said that, can someone please edit the Voyager trailer and put the Jurassic Park music into it? I'd say that would be an appropriate intro for Season 8 :D

    Edit: Not complaing about the Voth here, just about their little back yard "pets".
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    sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Well, what kind of war beasts would you expect a culture as advanced as the Voth to have? And considering the Voth themselves are technically Earthlings, too, it's to be expected that any animals they have would be descendants of creatures that were their contemporaries all those eons ago.
    ".... you're gonna have a bad time."
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    sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I'm not really crazy about attack dinosaurs and powered battle armor being in the game, but I won't complain. If it sells, it makes Cryptic money. And that money means the game lives longer and pays their staff (they gotta eat, ya know). So, why the hell not? Bring it.

    If anything, maybe it gives the devs the excuse they need to finally let us get our hands on the Isomagnetic disintegrator. Big targets require a big punch!
    ".... you're gonna have a bad time."
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    rickeyredshirtrickeyredshirt Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I hear at the end of the new Featured Episodes that you team with Grimlock, Yoshi, Turok and Dino from the Flintstones to fight the Voth King who is aided by Barney and Baby Bop. After your team is successful in beating him Baby Sinclair appears to tell his smoldering carcass that he's not the mama.
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