The Challenge of Champions!

shade13 wrote: »

jsxshadow wrote: »

I did it every week now on 4 chars each xDD and I plan on keeping that going for a loong time (til my star charts are at 15 aptidute and lvl50).

Yeah, I don't even know, brah. ​​

The all class list competition part for the matchless wing is unfair. Especially for bms, barb melee classes, and wizards with no unique buffs to increase damage. You have psychics that can use voodoo skill to increase attack levels passively (sins too). And dusk blade and mystic with their damage buffs with no short time limit, and dex build classes with 90% critical rates. Skilled Archers, sins, duskblades, mystics and psychic pretty much have an easier time finishing the tower compared to other classes, just check the current rankings.

ok on my sin i just did the first tier which is easy and made a base time for the rooms which could be done a little faster if your a mag class or range DD but only slightly since most of the rooms has a set limit to how fast you can do them aka kill the corrupt monk etc where you have to wait for the boss to spawn.....

So even on the first tier it should take you 22mins you could shave a little time off this by getting buffs but as i said there all one shots mainly anyway so only way to reduce time is to use speed pots or as i said range class but its not that much less time......so again i ask how people do it in 2hr 25mins without skipping the 5m20 room since even if you do all 6 tiers at 20mins thats 2hrs and since the end rooms are not 1 shots and you require more time to complete i cant see how you get 2hr 25mins also proves range DD will have better times as they dont need to run to the mobs and aoe class's will have an even more advantage on the kill 100 room as they have more aoe.

not sure about all people but i do not wait after each room for skills to reset or the instance would take SOOOO much longer

but the point is clear and the pwi will not comment on the unfair advantage some class's get if they want a fair instance they could force it so when you enter your a certain class with set gear and then your off and away ,as to what class that would be i would say sin due to the fact almost EVERYONE has a sin to farm so would be a logical choice....But as it stands yes range class have a big advantage *not needing to run about and hi DD...
No answer how people get 2hr 25 probable due to them not wanting others to know how they reduce the time ...
No answer from devs on why they think this is a FAIR contest
Im sure its not hard for them to make it so when you port in your a certain class with basic gear but then that would be a fair system rather than PAY TO WIN if nothing else im sure about i know pwi are NOT thinking about there profits.

I will do the tower with my Main as i do it always, I appreciate the event and all but honestly with the insane times that some people get there the cape is not really an option for me since I already know who is going to win on every single class...

If I win something, good.. If I dont get anything also good since i will do tower anyway lol.

I really don't want to sound rude or anything but for me some of the times that I see there are really fishy.
I mean lets be honest here, that tower have 108 levels, from those 108 levels 12 or so are challenge of the protectors?
Just to da all those --Challenge of the protectors-- you need one hour or even more, and those can not be avoided or hasted, since you can not haste the waves of monsters as far as i know.
So that left us with what? 1 hour or so... To do all the other 96? rooms

Im aware that some rooms are just one shot some things for really OP players, but again some of those things have a litle re-spawn time, also even if you are able to one shot everything since the beginning, some challenge can even take more time thanks to that, example of this is the Challenge of energy: if you one shot the mob there it will not drop the item you need sometimes making you waste seconds.

Also considering that a lot of instances, bosses, etc glitch on this game it would not really surprise me that someone has already found a way to abuse this one too...

of course I can be totally wrong and it can only be that our Top players are really Smart and OP and thats why they facerroll this as everything else on this game

But whatever the reason is Im sure that I will not be on the top 5 on all classes, I probably not even going to be among the top five on my class.. even though I am second place now on it at this time
After all when this competition really starts, all End game People will do the tower getting the top 5 places on all.
And while my main is r9 and all, it is not an end game full+12 /JOSD/Deity/EMP/asdfghjjjk toon

Still Kudos for thenamesdomino and the other GMs that are doing this kind of events. At least they are trying to do events that people can actually do.

Does failing a room count into your overall time?

sawyers said:

why cant u simply check the cross server ranking at the 15th Jan.
u check the class list... and find the top 5 out of every server.
this way ppl would have more time than just 2-3 days.

Because that would be both simple and effective. At that point we'd realize that PWI had been taken over by aliens or something and the jig would be up.

ufop wrote: »

Rooms:
1.Challenge of energy 2m 6s
2.Challenge of protector 5m 28
3.Challenge of portal 1m 30
4.Kill corrupt munk 29 seconds
5.Challenge of elements 15 seconds
6.Challenge the beleivers 25s
7.Challenge the calamity 16s
8.Challenge the pilgrims 55s
9.Boss 17s
18 Boss 27s

It takes me 1,5 min just to collect spheres in portal challenge + a bit more to kill.
99 and 108 bosses take couple of minutes to protect adventurers + a boss for which you need time to dd its soul to get buff etc.
Also mobs like monk or believers are not possible to kill in 25 sec on highest floors for most of the classes eve with maxed out attack and att.lvl. Besides it takes some time to spawn while timer is running. So yeah, I must be a pitiful fox, but I also don't see how...

Btw, is it only me or... When I spark at Calamity, he lets me hit him couple of times and then immunes again making me literally waste spark GRRR But without spark I can dd for like 10 sec+ without interruptions ​​

@shade13 im sure your fine and as i said its just a base time that i as a sin did it , range dd can do faster adn your right end rooms do take longer as i said my point was some do all 108 rooms in 2hr 25mins my sin is r9+10 with +12 weapon and with max attack and dmg it really doesnt make much difference what gear you have but to get a time of 2hr 25m(or around there) seems odd since most of the rooms are a set time *protector 5m20 for boss etc

the people complaining about buff farming and how that takes out the "effort", and the people complaining about the check in dates being set on fridays rather than allowing more time before reset.......those are two points that make the competition more fair tbh. ^^

It IS possible to farm buffs to make the tower easier per room, which 1.) makes gear less relevant-- it won't be a competition limited to only endgame players if you have buffs to compensate. For example, a full set of Dieties doesn't make much of a difference next to maxed attack buffs. So it allows anyone who's willing and able to put in the work and time to participate. 2. That method of challenging the tower actually demands MORE time, even though it results in a lower overall time score. Which brings it to the point of the check in dates being so soon after reset.....

By setting the dates in the middle of the reset, and limiting the time you have to post your run, it IS making it harder....you can't spend all week farming buffs and and carefully manipulating the system; you will have to put in the effort to get the best score possible in the time available. So no one can complain that "If I cs'ed more/bought more gear, I could compete too;" "If I had more days I could re-run and get better stats."

It isnt "easier" for people since even the people that will farm buffs will have to put in more time and effort to achieve it, but will have limited time, making it a rush for everyone to get though. We all are given the same handicaps, so do your best ^^

I still think a crown a more fitting win or give me my damn base helm faster

Ok, I realised one thing: the faster you do the tower... the more time you spend for it ​​

Can the check-in days be moved to Monday or Tuesday so people who work can participate?
Much appreciated.

This event is rigged because players can exploit the tower. Look at player Satyrion on Twilight Temple, he exploited the system and got an impossible time. Even if you did every room with the minimum times it would still take 1hr 48 mins approximately. Each room has a minimum completion time because you must wait for the NPCs to spawn, for example the tower defense type room takes a minimum of 5 minutes 20 seconds. This player obviously exploited the system and cheated and should be disqualified. Also, the player should be banned for abusing a glitch/exploit.