Force Stealth Nerf
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Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »Making stealth cost chi is an insane idea. Think of the lower levels, not just the 86+ PvP when you have level 10 skills.
When you first get Shadow Escape on 29, you only have 1 chi skill and it has a 15 second cooldown for 50 chi. You first get IH on level 59. So your suggestion would pretty much make Shadow Escape unuseable before 59.
And what would you do about Shadow Walk? Make it cost chi as well? Great idea since you have so much chi no level 13, not to mention so many chi gain skills pre-29.
Seriously, stop being a bunch of complainers. Shadow Escape is already pretty bad at 3.5 seconds for cast + channel. That's plenty of time to do something really nasty to them. Not to mention that it has a hideously long cooldown.
And btw, before you start talking about Deaden Nerves, realize that it comes with a 3 minute cooldown even when maxed, not to mention being almost 5 minutes when level 1.
How would my suggestion make Shadow escape useless? o_O
It gives you 1 spark, that gives you roughly 33 seconds of stealth just from that skill to escape.
Shadow Walk at level 13? Sins can't barely use it for more than 5 seconds at that level anyway due to massive mana cost for that level.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
ElderSig - Dreamweaver wrote: »How would my suggestion make Shadow escape useless? o_O
It gives you 1 spark, that gives you roughly 33 seconds of stealth just from that skill to escape.
Yeah and then what? Before at least 49, they'd be stuck with a useless skill, as the only way to gain chi before 49 is to use Tackling Slash, which kinda sucks. Especially since in those 15 seconds that TS is in cooldown, you'd have already used up 45 out of the 50 chi it gives.
Also, you should notice that Shadow Escape still has a 90 second cooldown. With 3 chi/second, you cannot maintain it without at least Rising Dragon Strike.
And besides, why the heck do you care so much about sins running away? As far as I can see, a sin using Shadow Escape is forfeiting the fight to you. If you actually make a sin use Shadow Escape, that means one of two things: 1) the sin sucks 2) you're better than the sin. In the former case, wasting time caring about them is a loss comparable to trying to reason with a forum troll. In the latter, you should feel good about yourself.
Also, I'd like to point out that actually leveling Inner Harmony is really expensive. Takes a total of 4,060,000 coins to get to level 10, out of which 3,190,000 is Levels 6-10. And I'd like to point out that pre-89, leveling Inner Harmony is just a luxury, as you can spark just fine with level 1 Inner Harmony.
And again, Shadow Escape has a 3.5 second cast+channel. Might be a short time, but not like it's instant cast with an 8 second cooldown.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »Yeah and then what? Before at least 49, they'd be stuck with a useless skill, as the only way to gain chi before 49 is to use Tackling Slash, which kinda sucks. Especially since in those 15 seconds that TS is in cooldown, you'd have already used up 45 out of the 50 chi it gives.
Also, you should notice that Shadow Escape still has a 90 second cooldown. With 3 chi/second, you cannot maintain it without at least Rising Dragon Strike.
And besides, why the heck do you care so much about sins running away? As far as I can see, a sin using Shadow Escape is forfeiting the fight to you. If you actually make a sin use Shadow Escape, that means one of two things: 1) the sin sucks 2) you're better than the sin. In the former case, wasting time caring about them is a loss comparable to trying to reason with a forum troll. In the latter, you should feel good about yourself.
Also, I'd like to point out that actually leveling Inner Harmony is really expensive. Takes a total of 4,060,000 coins to get to level 10, out of which 3,190,000 is Levels 6-10. And I'd like to point out that pre-89, leveling Inner Harmony is just a luxury, as you can spark just fine with level 1 Inner Harmony.
And again, Shadow Escape has a 3.5 second cast+channel. Might be a short time, but not like it's instant cast with an 8 second cooldown.
3. They force you to use your genie/apoth, then come back with full chi and kill you.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »Yeah and then what? Before at least 49, they'd be stuck with a useless skill, as the only way to gain chi before 49 is to use Tackling Slash, which kinda sucks. Especially since in those 15 seconds that TS is in cooldown, you'd have already used up 45 out of the 50 chi it gives.
Also, you should notice that Shadow Escape still has a 90 second cooldown. With 3 chi/second, you cannot maintain it without at least Rising Dragon Strike.
And besides, why the heck do you care so much about sins running away? As far as I can see, a sin using Shadow Escape is forfeiting the fight to you. If you actually make a sin use Shadow Escape, that means one of two things: 1) the sin sucks 2) you're better than the sin. In the former case, wasting time caring about them is a loss comparable to trying to reason with a forum troll. In the latter, you should feel good about yourself.
Also, I'd like to point out that actually leveling Inner Harmony is really expensive. Takes a total of 4,060,000 coins to get to level 10, out of which 3,190,000 is Levels 6-10. And I'd like to point out that pre-89, leveling Inner Harmony is just a luxury, as you can spark just fine with level 1 Inner Harmony.
And again, Shadow Escape has a 3.5 second cast+channel. Might be a short time, but not like it's instant cast with an 8 second cooldown.
How is it useless? Shadow Escape is a "omg gtfo" skill that allows to you get out of harm's way easily and not even be able to be chased.
You're saying it's useless just because the sin can't use it and hang around as long as he wants, which is not the purpose of an escape skill.
Btw, I would remove the mana requirement of stealth if it requires chi.
Also, we're seeing Shadow Escape not being used as an escape skill. As Asperitas mentioned. It's being used more as a immunity while the your opponent's buffs wear off, which, last I checked, doesn't classify as the sin running away.
People aren't complaining about sins running away, they're complaining about sins *poofing* out of harm's way, and coming back 30 seconds later, fully chi'd, skills cooled off (except escape), and fighting an opponent who can not say the same.
Btw, you say leveling Inner Harmony is a luxury, I say having perma-stealth for as long as you damn please is a luxury.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
ElderSig - Dreamweaver wrote: »Also, we're seeing Shadow Escape not being used as an escape skill. As Asperitas mentioned. It's being used more as a immunity while the your opponent's buffs wear off, which, last I checked, doesn't classify as the sin running away.
Um, wtf? Most buffs last 30 or 60 minutes. You're actually saying that a sin sits around in front of you in stealth for an hour, hoping that you wouldn't rebuff? Somehow I think you worded yourself wrong there or you know some really bored sins.People aren't complaining about sins running away, they're complaining about sins *poofing* out of harm's way, and coming back 30 seconds later, fully chi'd, skills cooled off (except escape), and fighting an opponent who can not say the same.
Um, which skills would those be? Because the only attack skills with 30s cooldowns are Rising Dragon Strike, Power Dash, Headhunt and Subsea Strike.
And btw, Maze Steps and Focused Mind also have 90 second cooldowns.
And really, if you're just gonna stand there for 30 seconds, not healing or doing anything at all, then it's your fault for losing. In 30 seconds, your charm or potions, except apo ones, would be out of cooldown three times over.
And also, any sin that needs to Shadow Escape to recover chi isn't worth anyone's time.Btw, you say leveling Inner Harmony is a luxury, I say having perma-stealth for as long as you damn please is a luxury.
Yes because making Focus Powder is so damn hard.
Seriously, why are you even bothering to complain about weaklings that need to use 9 sparks (2x IH, 2x RDS, 2x TS, 1x SE) to kill you?3. They force you to use your genie/apoth, then come back with full chi and kill you.
Um, if you know that's gonna happen, then why the hell are you using those skills in the first place?
Why do you people have some burning need to kill a sin? Can't you just conclude that using Shadow Escape for an extended duration is basically forfeiting?I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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Most characters can't survive an assassin without genies. Most emergency buffs like anti-stun certainly do not last 30-60min.Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
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lol, im stating a fact but kids like you are trying to defend him even if they have no idea what they do. even a lol player like him is more useful in a team than those useless sins they send on attacksBorn_Free - Harshlands wrote: »-.- what're you, Kylin activist? Butthurt former Kingdom member? Troll someplace else please. b:bye
Of course Long, if you actually posted TW videos..... b:chuckle
Nurfed needs to let you do stuff, I swear. I've only seen thunder_fist in battle, and other than that, there's not much else information I have on Psys in TW.....
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Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »Um, if you know that's gonna happen, then why the hell are you using those skills in the first place?
See below.Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »Most characters can't survive an assassin without genies. Most emergency buffs like anti-stun certainly do not last 30-60min.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I'm ok with the way it is now but don't really see a point in making a mostly unused class in TW even less wanted. Yeah, I heard plenty of people on the forums say bla bla tw is dead, it might be for you but not for me.
Yep, I get boned by relatively equivalent or better geared sins when I pk 1vs1 but I don't care that much since its pixels. Either bring your sin friends, be in a squad so somebody has your back to seal/sleep/stun/try to 1 or 2 shot/whatever as long as that char dies, or have a lot of low lvl mobs close by to aoe in case sin goes back into stealth.
These two vid show some ways players have thought up to counteract sin's stealth. One is from the point of view of a sin the other is from a wizard. I do not vouch for or against the players skills but it does show you some ways to break sins out of stealth or how they themselves are broken out of stealth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiBG6DcpaWg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-81Z1iwmmx4[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Well I almost didn't read the OP because it was just ridiculously long so then I chose not to read any other posts as a result.
The last option of the forced stealth consuming chi is brilliant. The skill gives chi so they would not automatically become visible again. They have an instant chi giving skill that they could use to get an extra 200 chi and stealth longer. This solution would still allow them to force and run but at a price instead of now it costs them nothing but instead helps them.
Too bad others weren't this intelligent.Push me,
And then just touch me.
Tilll I get my,
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Cast time doesn't matter, only channel. Once channel is finished you are invisible already. That's 0.7 secs... I'd say it's a really short time.Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »And again, Shadow Escape has a 3.5 second cast+channel. Might be a short time, but not like it's instant cast with an 8 second cooldown.0 -
Susamajii - Lost City wrote: »Too bad others weren't this intelligent.
Stealthing consumes 399 chi every second but it doesn't kick you out when you are out of chi.100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
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>.> I hope you beat the hell out of Flashlight. That guy owes me money.
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I'm all for Stealth Costing a spark or at least SOME kind of amount of chi. Stated about a billion times, it's not fair they get a spark. Every other class has to work for it. blah blah blah.0 -
Lorminstra - Heavens Tear wrote: »It is a QQ thread, the first Bold text says the first hint to its a QQ thread and the second bold text says it all... "you cant beat it and so you make a thread saying NERF them"
Also your "Poll" gives another hint to it "Yes, it makes the sin too easy to play".
Say what you want, but that is to QQ about them & their skill.
I just like to know why are you trying to hide the real reason you made the thread?
No my reply isnt a flame, there is 0% flame in any of my words!
Dude, shut it if he says he's not QQing then he's not, why go around fake statistics and try and flame the guy.0 -
Durdey - Harshlands wrote: »Agreed, most of these nabs just sit there and complain complain complain. "My class isnt better than yours, so I request them to get nurfed!!!!"
You guys can take your suggestions and shove them up your... ask me if I care.
Every time I see one of these threads, no matter HOW hard they try to not QQ in it... I see nothing but QQQQQQQQQQ QQQQ QQQQQQQ QQQQQQ QQQQQ QQQQQQ QQQQ QQQQ.
To those saying "Well on the game called *(Insert some stupid game here)* The sins arent able to do a lot of that stuff that they can do on PWI. Well TOUGH LUCK BUDDY! U like the way they do their game? Then go play their game! Maybe because your desired class on that game isn't so easily destroyed like a little *****!
GO AHEAD GO PLAY "THAT" GAME!!! I don't freakin care about you. You're on a different server anyways.
Why am I bitter? Why do I sound as if I'm an annoying little *****? Because I am. I wont lie. I'm possibly one of the most EVIL players on the game you will ever come across. (I'm a pretty mild person in real life tho) After hearing tons and tons of people cry about getting PK'ed... I got tired of listening to them and consoleing them. I got tired of someone beating me and having that last laugh. So I did the thing I wanted to do, became a MAN! Leveled up! and Became BETTER than the people I wanted to beat.
I suggest that if you WANT to be good at PVP... Don't do "Casual PVP". If you're going to do it right, go all out! I CAN BE BEATEN! I've been dominated by every class. I've dominated EVERY CLASS. It's not about if the other person has a better list of skill options, it's about if you can use your options better than them.
Quit being such a freaking pansey and man the hell up!
Trolling, Ignore this Sh*t head guys these are some awesome suggestions.0 -
Members of the Harshlands hall of shame:
Demon_EA
Yulk
Durdey
And still recruiting. If you're going to post stupid ****, could you do Harshlands a favor by not making the rest of us look like complete morons and post on an alt. You have no idea how hard people like Marche and Longknife and Urdian and I have to work to fix that. (We make sarcasm, forum stalking, and logic look so easy...)
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Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »And still recruiting. If you're going to post stupid ****, could you do Harshlands a favor by not making the rest of us look like complete morons and post on an alt. You have no idea how hard people like Marche and Longknife and Urdian and I have to work to fix that. (We make sarcasm, forum stalking, and logic look so easy...)
Yulk is not from HL.100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
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Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »Members of the Harshlands hall of shame:
Demon_EA
Yulk
Durdey
And still recruiting. If you're going to post stupid ****, could you do Harshlands a favor by not making the rest of us look like complete morons and post on an alt. You have no idea how hard people like Marche and Longknife and Urdian and I have to work to fix that. (We make sarcasm, forum stalking, and logic look so easy...)
b:thanks tyvm. Have a nice day.
Okay nothing against longknfe but could you quit kissing his *** and he didn't work for rep, it's just the amount of people gullible enough to kiss those cheeks when he pulls his pants down (obviously you)
Oh and i doubt people look at the others fro Harshlands as all trolling idiots, If that's the case dashiko and i wrote the book for sanctuary and killed The Infamous Michael Dark0 -
KiAngelo - Sanctuary wrote: »Oh and i doubt people look at the others fro Harshlands as all trolling idiots, If that's the case dashiko and i wrote the book for sanctuary and killed The Infamous Michael Dark
He's back soon enough. b:chuckle Trust me, I know.100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
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Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »Cast time doesn't matter, only channel. Once channel is finished you are invisible already. That's 0.7 secs... I'd say it's a really short time.
That's not true. As I sayd before, I've died more than once for trying to shadow escape while 3 or + mobs was attacking me at same time, and even after I became invisible, the few last attacks they shoted me while casting it, did damaged me and killed me.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Noskrad - Heavens Tear wrote: »
That's not true. As I sayd before, I've died more than once for trying to shadow escape while 3 or + mobs was attacking me at same time, and even after I became invisible, the few last attacks they shoted me while casting it, did damaged me and killed me.
That's a result of lag between client and server and attack damages being calculated before they land. Everybody's subject to it somehow.0 -
I'm generally not affected by the forced stealth, because I honestly rarely use it.
Let me break it down for you, little sins.
If you have played an assassin up to a level where you think you can pk, you should already know your limitations.
If I run in and get in someone's *** and they turn around and shave off half my health bar, that's usually my own mistake and that person deserves the win for besting me in combat.
I have never and will never turn around and go stealth if I start to lose a fight, because the way I see it I am attacking THEM. You should never go into a pk if you aren't fully prepared to get your head kicked in.
On the other hand if I'm the one getting attacked and I can't fight them off being as how we sins are made of paper, I will go into stealth to get away.
So maybe there should be a who hit first kind of scenario. If you hit first you cant go stealth and run but if you are attacked you can. I dunno food for thought.0 -
Noskrad - Heavens Tear wrote: »
That's not true. As I sayd before, I've died more than once for trying to shadow escape while 3 or + mobs was attacking me at same time, and even after I became invisible, the few last attacks they shoted me while casting it, did damaged me and killed me.
I cast Sutra+Town Teleport but still died inside the city. Ban town teleport plzzzzzzzzzzzz.0 -
Russiee - Raging Tide wrote: »I cast Sutra+Town Teleport but still died inside the city. Ban town teleport plzzzzzzzzzzzz.
qft, QQ thread ftl0 -
Zzzzzzzzz.
Why is it only people who are ***.holes troll?
Ive seen some sins help this thread and others just ruin it.
Jesus, I think itd be great to lose chi instead of gaining a spark, I never use Escape to gain a spark anyway, I prefer to save it for the actual escape, cept for:
Best combo I have used so far was this :
Fromm 399 chi in stealth, all cool'd down - Sage spark a considerable distance off target (99 chi left) - Force Stealth (199) - Wind Push towards my target IN stealth (209 chi? 214?) - Headhunt.
They never stood a chance, just like 3Spark in stealth used to. I wasnt ready for a 6k one-shot, I used inner harmony before I hit and was stood there trying to hit with Slipstream until I realised they were dead >_>. But point being, I was stood there with 1.6x sparks Readily being able to do anything I wanted to get the hell outta there or continue killing my target.
If the spark is removed il need to level Inner Harmony and il be chi-less when I do this again, but thats ok, I still get to do one evil kill hit, with Sage effect in play for 5-7 seconds more and having freedom to do more horrible damage / kill them. Hell I could Takling slash, Slipstream and then sleep them as Stun wore off.
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My point is, I worked around the 3spark nerf, even though it was before my time (I didnt make my sin til after the nerf).
I can work around the chi-stealth nerf idea.
It just makes me a lot less OP AFTER my target is dead.
Dont QQ, just think.
And on the Cleric side, sins are OP as hell, and AD - Ironguards just dont last. If I use AD im sat there for 3 minutes being unable to use it again and Ironguards are on CD for 2 minutes. Admittedly sins stealth at AD so Ironguarding is bluffable ( Dont use it) and I could use anti-stun genie skill and that at the second attack.... But still, they just come back while CD's are there and bluffing is dangerous I could guess wrong and die or use it and waste it. Also requires pretty decent regen on genie and a screwy build for anti stun.
If the sin just escaped they gained the spark they need to MazeSteps - Ironguard themselves on the second attack and they can kill me after my Ironguard wears off if they Tackling - Cloud erupt - Headhunt or something on me and go nuts.
Im playing the game from the most significant sides to this, the Sins favoured target and the sin themselves, and on both sides, the chi loss in stealth, either spark on cast or over time, seems perfectly fair and probably the best solution proposed.0 -
...well if everybody suffers the same "result of lag", don't you think that it may be what I say? (that you still can be attacked even while casting the Shadow Escape skill) why not?Admante - Dreamweaver wrote: »That's a result of lag between client and server and attack damages being calculated before they land. Everybody's subject to it somehow.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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_Mikosage_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »I'm generally not affected by the forced stealth, because I honestly rarely use it.
Let me break it down for you, little sins.
If you have played an assassin up to a level where you think you can pk, you should already know your limitations.
If I run in and get in someone's *** and they turn around and shave off half my health bar, that's usually my own mistake and that person deserves the win for besting me in combat.
I have never and will never turn around and go stealth if I start to lose a fight, because the way I see it I am attacking THEM. You should never go into a pk if you aren't fully prepared to get your head kicked in.
On the other hand if I'm the one getting attacked and I can't fight them off being as how we sins are made of paper, I will go into stealth to get away.
So maybe there should be a who hit first kind of scenario. If you hit first you cant go stealth and run but if you are attacked you can. I dunno food for thought.
I agree. I didn't start PKing yet, but when I start I'll certainly do the same.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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No that's not how it works.
In this game, an attack can be considered a "skill" with 0sec channel but a non-zero cast time. When a skill finishes channeling, damage is already calculated then delayed depending on skill.
Remember, the damage is already calculated is an important part. If some skill has cast time 8 sec and deals the damage after 6 secs (delays by 6 secs), then the damage is calculated 6 second before it lands.
In case buffs expire, or even if the target uses an immunity potion, he will still take the damage since it was calculated before even if it was applied later.
Example: Jungle Ruins. Mobs there 1-shot you (deal like 200k+ damage). A frozen bug aggroed my friend. She used Ironguard Powder (12sec immunity potion), but bug already started the hitting animation before that, this means damage was already calculated.
She died and the ironguard was on cooldown, meaning she used it before dying. So the mob "bypassed" the immunity but that was simply because the damage was calculated 0.5 seconds before the actual hit -- even though by the time the hit arrived, she had the 'immunity buff'...0 -
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I Want it Nerfed NAOW
*tick tick tick ding!*
Im in PK an arcane, TT99 made,
I have charged just enough ZEN just to win the game
*tick, tick, tick, ding*
Uh oh, I think I saw a sin
He thinks he can win
Fortunate for me my defense is not lint
(yeeeeah)I mean all I gotta do, is use a voodoo,
and of course I am using white cause it is to cool
(Unstealth Noise)
Wait what? 5aps? pumping heart in my chest
Thankfully my genie is one and the best
(yeeeeah)The best it do, is make me immune,
The sin is like what?Time to force stealth dude.
(yeaaaah)Genies on cooldown,what am I to do now?
His friends in safe like hehehe you screwed now.
Dang Devs, I want stealth Nerfed NOW.
(I Want it Nerfed Nooooow)Before I start a new thread
(I Want it Nerfed Nooooow)Before I stop charging ZEN!
(I Want it Nerfed Nooooow)Before a lose my head, because everybody here wants a sin dead!
*tick, tick, tick, ding*
Ok, yah, the sins on attack,
Apoths got my back,to late(pshhhh),
the sin is stunning me back to back.
*tick, tick, tick*
(ahem)Heeeey,I thought I was pro,but mah health is on low
my charms already tick so im sliced fish to go.
So If anybody hears this*tick tick tick tick*, turn the clock of slooooooooow.
*tick tick tick tick riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing*.....*Click*
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