Well, the solution here is rather simple, add another lockbox quest to the game for level 70 characters, one that will give everyone that legendary Stardock mount pack as bound to character reward. Hell, the Devs could even add some funky title to it as well for laughs.
Anyway, nothing new around here that a reported preview version bug wanders into the live version without being fixed, but for a change man or woman up and do the right thing after such a fudged up mess...
Well, the solution here is rather simple, add another lockbox quest to the game for level 70 characters, one that will give everyone that legendary Stardock mount pack as bound to character reward. Hell, the Devs could even add some funky title to it as well for laughs.
Anyway, nothing new around here that a reported preview version bug wanders into the live version without being fixed, but for a change man or woman up and do the right thing after such a fudged up mess...
that woudl destroy the market far more than the extra couple hundred that made it into the world already.
Since this was reported on test Forums, the really bad part is why did the devs not catch it? Someone did not do their job there.
But when it happened, and maybe 200-300 people did get free leg mounts, what options did Cryptic have?
* They could roll back, which would not mean much play lost, but which would mean 4-5-6 hours delay on the mod launch. That would not be good with a lot of eager people waiting to get into the mod. And that is assuming they did take a backup of the player database before they installed the mod, but I assume that is done as a matter of routine.
* They could do as they did, just block the bug and carry on, then look into it later. The problem of course is that people will open those mount packs, sell the mounts or the packs, reconfigure characters around the mounts, etc etc. So it is really no easy way to get that toothpaste back into the tube. That people open the Stardock lockbox must all over be considered a normal event, since it is one of the newer lockboxes, so there can be no talk of exploits and punishments.
While we all would have preferred this did not happen, the consequence of 200-300 free Leg mounts into the economy should be fairly short-lived. Some of those Leg mounts will likely end up on alts that otherwise would not get a Leg mount too, so not all of those Leg mounts will enter the economy at all.
200-300 players get a boost they did not expect and should be happy.
Other players are unhappy because they missed out, but really.. you can't go around and be unhappy because some people are lucky. This is on the same level as someone being lucky with the RNG.
Cryptic will likely lose some income from this in the form of reduced lockbox key sales or reduced Leg mount sale at next Zen sale.
People trying to sell (legit) Leg mounts probably will experience a Leg mount price drop for a while, but can just postpone selling. The Leg mount Zen sales has anyways contributed to pushing Leg mount prices down.
All over.. I think Cryptic handled this the best possible way.
It should never have happened though, in particular since this was on the Test boards.
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darthpotaterMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,259Arc User
Wow.
The only thing that comes to my mind is: Why the hell we have preview server? Why they spend resources on this?
When I commented on the reported issue in preview I couldnt imagine this could go live, even knowing the game history. (we had something similar in the past with nightmare mounts)
Reacting like nothing happened hurts Cryptics credibility and devaluate the game economy. 12M AD in value is not a joke, at 750 converting ratio is 16.000 zen, converted to money, thats a lot, just because you were lucky to enter the game in that timeframe. People that spend money will think 2 times, because really, this is not fair for them.
I personally dont care about not being a lucky one, because I dont need it, but people that is "new" in the game strugling to progress and spend money here and there to make their characters better will be very because the company doesnt seem "serious". And that people is the #1 priority to be retained in the game.
sold an empowered r15, grinded tomm for 3 weeks to get a stardock legendary mount pack. bought it for 12.2m AD. now with this exploit, many people got it for free. sometimes i wonder what is wrong with this development system...
This sole comment recap , why cryptic lost trust of customers.
Should I say something else? You clearly CAN NOT do that, in respect of all the players. It is CLERALY UNFAIR to the people with a different UTC or who couldn't log on. You must remove the drops from that issue, as well as you take in consideration in giving rollbacks. Why people like me who have the possibility to open lockboxes (VIP or people with keys) should have this DISADVANTAGE in respect of who could log on yesterday? WHY?! Because dropping a legendary mount pack is clearly an advantage and you are unfair. You give the same chance to ALL or you give the chance to NO ONE.
At only 10M each and only 200 mounts you have the equivalent of 2 billion AD, or 2.67 million Zen or about 242k € (taking the 1100Z<>10€ transaction) worth of items suddenly injected into the game in a few minutes.
There's no way ever this doesn't justify a rollback, especially since they managed to shutdown the server quickly thus no progression in terms of dungeons or campaign was made by anyone, only simple character management and lockbox opening. They do have the logs of everything, so if we push that a bit further they could even compensate the epic/legendary loot people got on the non-glitched lockboxes, such as the player who got a T-Rex pack on the screen, not like they already have done a case by case review in some huntgates.
200 10k power mounts added in the span of a few minutes is no joke, considering you have usually about 1/10th of that in the same time on the AH. Also it's really a insult to players opening lockboxes fairly for years hoping to get a legit mount with the low odds, since few players, because they were connected in a limited timeframe, got a free one because of a bug.
The only solution was a rollback, and they had the possibility to do it. But no, I guess it's better to just screw the PC economy and playerbase a bit more. No one should keep a mount obtained by such a glitch, saying the opposite is absolute nonsense.
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greywyndMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 7,132Arc User
Little heads up, try reading the Terms of Service attached to game, that you agreed to before you ever logged into the game.
I'm not looking for forgiveness, and I'm way past asking permission. Earth just lost her best defender, so we're here to fight. And if you want to stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
Well, the solution here is rather simple, add another lockbox quest to the game for level 70 characters, one that will give everyone that legendary Stardock mount pack as bound to character reward. Hell, the Devs could even add some funky title to it as well for laughs.
Anyway, nothing new around here that a reported preview version bug wanders into the live version without being fixed, but for a change man or woman up and do the right thing after such a fudged up mess...
that woudl destroy the market far more than the extra couple hundred that made it into the world already.
I have a legendary mount sitting in my bank waiting for the "market" to recover for a while now, and i doubt it will even when they go into their favorite problem solving mode "sitting it out" again, so i'm screwed either way...
Beside, they could also introduce mythic mounts with module 19 lockboxes and everything would be back to "normal" until they fudge it up again during a following module release.
I do believe in killing the messenger...
Want to know why?
Because it sends a message!
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tassedethe13Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 806Arc User
Well, the solution here is rather simple, add another lockbox quest to the game for level 70 characters, one that will give everyone that legendary Stardock mount pack as bound to character reward. Hell, the Devs could even add some funky title to it as well for laughs.
Anyway, nothing new around here that a reported preview version bug wanders into the live version without being fixed, but for a change man or woman up and do the right thing after such a fudged up mess...
that woudl destroy the market far more than the extra couple hundred that made it into the world already.
I have a legendary mount sitting in my bank waiting for the "market" to recover for a while now, and i doubt it will even when they go into their favorite problem solving mode "sitting it out" again, so i'm screwed either way...
Beside, they could also introduce mythic mounts with module 19 lockboxes and everything would be back to "normal" until they fudge it up again during a following module release.
yes let's wait another 6 months to fix something !
Despite the Millennials illusions to the contrary, life is not always fair. Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. Pick yourself up and move on buckaroo...it is a game, you will be alright...
Well, the solution here is rather simple, add another lockbox quest to the game for level 70 characters, one that will give everyone that legendary Stardock mount pack as bound to character reward. Hell, the Devs could even add some funky title to it as well for laughs.
Anyway, nothing new around here that a reported preview version bug wanders into the live version without being fixed, but for a change man or woman up and do the right thing after such a fudged up mess...
that woudl destroy the market far more than the extra couple hundred that made it into the world already.
I have a legendary mount sitting in my bank waiting for the "market" to recover for a while now, and i doubt it will even when they go into their favorite problem solving mode "sitting it out" again, so i'm screwed either way...
Beside, they could also introduce mythic mounts with module 19 lockboxes and everything would be back to "normal" until they fudge it up again during a following module release.
yes let's wait another 6 months to fix something !
... and? You make it sound like that would be something completely new around here.
Now its too late to rollback best method is to retract all the legendary mount which comes from that bugged lockbox and refund the keys during that time frame.
Despite the Millennials illusions to the contrary, life is not always fair. Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. Pick yourself up and move on buckaroo...it is a game, you will be alright...
If enough players take your advice to pick up & move on, the game might not be all right...
"Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose."
Yeah, see the thing is, 50/50 chances are still RNG. But that's not what this situation is. Those that were present, won. Those that were not, lost. Rubbing salt in the wound is not helpful.
Now its too late to rollback best method is to retract all the legendary mount which comes from that bugged lockbox and refund the keys during that time frame.
I'm pretty sure that several of those packs were allready sold/traded, so it's a little bit too late for that as well.
What i don't get, they lock the server down so that no more players can get in, they disable that lockbox so that no more legendary packs can be pulled from it, but then don't mark all those legendary mounts at the very least bound to account right away?
Anyway, guessing we'll get some official statement at some point about the drop chance of the Stardock lockbox being fixed, the lockbox will be open for bussiness again and that's it.
I do believe in killing the messenger...
Want to know why?
Because it sends a message!
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tassedethe13Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 806Arc User
Well, the solution here is rather simple, add another lockbox quest to the game for level 70 characters, one that will give everyone that legendary Stardock mount pack as bound to character reward. Hell, the Devs could even add some funky title to it as well for laughs.
Anyway, nothing new around here that a reported preview version bug wanders into the live version without being fixed, but for a change man or woman up and do the right thing after such a fudged up mess...
that woudl destroy the market far more than the extra couple hundred that made it into the world already.
I have a legendary mount sitting in my bank waiting for the "market" to recover for a while now, and i doubt it will even when they go into their favorite problem solving mode "sitting it out" again, so i'm screwed either way...
Beside, they could also introduce mythic mounts with module 19 lockboxes and everything would be back to "normal" until they fudge it up again during a following module release.
yes let's wait another 6 months to fix something !
... and? You make it sound like that would be something completely new around here.
And ? In case you didn't read other posts, people asked for rollback, or some kind of equity. That's not because something is wrong during for years that we should stop asking to correct it and accept it omg.
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tassedethe13Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 806Arc User
But the official announcement said- Drop AT A HIGHER RATE THAT WAS INTENDED.
Who knows what that means? Maybe it was 0,0002 instead of 0,0001.
You might be angry over 10 legendary mounts that got to players that hoped to get one after 3-4 years .
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It was 100%, read the topic someone posted screenshot with at least 50 legendary mounts dropping on a row, another one posted video about the bug in preview bugs, not fixed.
We are angry because they are not able to release modules without bugs we reported, we are angry because they treat us like they don't care.
it wasnt 100 percent. some people did not get one that opened a lock box. it was just higher than expected. yes a lot of people hit them but on mod drop there can be a waiting list to get into the game so many ppl log on. it was definitely just a percentage of the whole, not the whole.
Yeah, see the thing is, 50/50 chances are still RNG. But that's not what this situation is. Those that were present, won. Those that were not, lost. Rubbing salt in the wound is not helpful.
Though i mostly agree with the "unfair" part of being right there right at the good instant, i can't let you say something like that : Those that were present, won. Those that were not, lost. But honestly what did they loose ?
I usually play lottery once a week in real life (Euromillion), but didn't last week for some reasons. Some people won various amount last friday (and one won 100 millions). Did I loose something ? Should i ask "la Française des Jeux" to reroll the draw because I wasn't in ?
Your envy and jealousy about people who won doesn't mean you have lost anything. (ok, yep, you have missed an opportunity, but opportunity is not synonym with guarantee of winning)
edit : just you to know, i was not ingame during the lockbox bugged leg mount RNG. So i didn't get one ^^
Well, the solution here is rather simple, add another lockbox quest to the game for level 70 characters, one that will give everyone that legendary Stardock mount pack as bound to character reward. Hell, the Devs could even add some funky title to it as well for laughs.
Anyway, nothing new around here that a reported preview version bug wanders into the live version without being fixed, but for a change man or woman up and do the right thing after such a fudged up mess...
that woudl destroy the market far more than the extra couple hundred that made it into the world already.
I have a legendary mount sitting in my bank waiting for the "market" to recover for a while now, and i doubt it will even when they go into their favorite problem solving mode "sitting it out" again, so i'm screwed either way...
Beside, they could also introduce mythic mounts with module 19 lockboxes and everything would be back to "normal" until they fudge it up again during a following module release.
yes let's wait another 6 months to fix something !
... and? You make it sound like that would be something completely new around here.
And ? In case you didn't read other posts, people asked for rollback, or some kind of equity. That's not because something is wrong during for years that we should stop asking to correct it and accept it omg.
The point would be that they'll ignore all the player feedback here again, and then will do what they've allways done during these kind of crisis again - this legendary horse is headed straight for Silent City, and there's nothing the players can do about it.
Not to mention, with a rollback of the table, which probably also include any notion of removing those packs and/or mounts picked from them, what other options are left to actually "correct" this mess?
Give it to all VIPs or remove it from all. It's unfair to who was not online.
i would have to say no to that for how it would make a lame gift so why would you not want a legendary mount with vip feel it would make a better gift to the players and my self that didn't exploit the broken lockbox
It's kinda funny being banned for Barovia hunt exploit and not for this. It will affect market much more and was reported in forums. Maybe not all, but people opening old boxes like crazy instead the new ones knew exactly what they were doing.
Things like this shouldn't bring people bans, specially permanent, but it's clear to me that it's an unfair treatment between both cases. And yes, some people were caught into huntban cos they were in a party and still didn't know about any exploit.
There is not fair solution right now, I think. A rollback was the right thing to do, but it won't happens. It was a great opportunity to cement company credibility, but maybe that train passed long time ago.
If it was 99.9% it was not 100%. I am pretty sure thats all the numbers we will get on this. What does it matter if it was 30 or 300 or 3000 people, except for economy (which is only damaging to people that want to sell leg mounts. Oh my, the tears! Sorry, this was envy saying hello)? If there is one person in this pool of people that decided to "hey I wanna go and open STARDOCK lockbox now! What a cool idea!!" that would have had a good RNG originally, yeah, too sad. My good RNG was a leg alembic. I still believe what I said last night (or whenever this happened in your time) and I still don't think this changes anything for me personally (leg mount free account here) BUT I play lottery KNOWING that I won't get <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. If I wanted this in NW I would've opened the new lockbox while I knew others dropped all those leg mount boxes. I mean, you see all those stardock pop ups and still go "Oh, Undying will HAVE to give me my swarm now!!"? No. You think "ah well 10k power, gimme. Maybe sell a few in a some months"
On a more important note: (Yes, I'm kinda having fun) Before we talk about titles for this (I would love the stolen mount title if I had actually... well nevermind) I want my huntgate titles. "Survived the banwave" or "Cards? What cards?" or "I told them not to do it!" ?? How bout it? (Because we seem to have a different time understanding sarcasm and trolling here: This was a joke (kinda))
- bye bye -
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tassedethe13Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 806Arc User
Well, the solution here is rather simple, add another lockbox quest to the game for level 70 characters, one that will give everyone that legendary Stardock mount pack as bound to character reward. Hell, the Devs could even add some funky title to it as well for laughs.
Anyway, nothing new around here that a reported preview version bug wanders into the live version without being fixed, but for a change man or woman up and do the right thing after such a fudged up mess...
that woudl destroy the market far more than the extra couple hundred that made it into the world already.
I have a legendary mount sitting in my bank waiting for the "market" to recover for a while now, and i doubt it will even when they go into their favorite problem solving mode "sitting it out" again, so i'm screwed either way...
Beside, they could also introduce mythic mounts with module 19 lockboxes and everything would be back to "normal" until they fudge it up again during a following module release.
yes let's wait another 6 months to fix something !
... and? You make it sound like that would be something completely new around here.
And ? In case you didn't read other posts, people asked for rollback, or some kind of equity. That's not because something is wrong during for years that we should stop asking to correct it and accept it omg.
The point would be that they'll ignore all the player feedback here again, and then will do what they've allways done during these kind of crisis again - this legendary horse is headed straight for Silent City, and there's nothing the players can do about it.
Not to mention, with a rollback of the table, which probably also include any notion of removing those packs and/or mounts picked from them, what other options are left to actually "correct" this mess?
Find in logs the players who gets mounts during this window and remove those mounts? If the mount had been sold, remove AD from the solder and give back AD to the buyer.
It doesn't looks like it's difficult when those things are monitored.
Yeah, see the thing is, 50/50 chances are still RNG. But that's not what this situation is. Those that were present, won. Those that were not, lost. Rubbing salt in the wound is not helpful.
Though i mostly agree with the "unfair" part of being right there right at the good instant, i can't let you say something like that : Those that were present, won. Those that were not, lost. But honestly what did they loose ?
I usually play lottery once a week in real life (Euromillion), but didn't last week for some reasons. Some people won various amount last friday (and one won 100 millions). Did I loose something ? Should i ask "la Française des Jeux" to reroll the draw because I wasn't in ?
Your envy and jealousy about people who won doesn't mean you have lost anything. (ok, yep, you have missed an opportunity, but opportunity is not synonym with guarantee of winning)
edit : just you to know, i was not ingame during the lockbox bugged leg mount RNG. So i didn't get one ^^
If I take your example, what about if the day you didn't play, every one who bought a ticket at 14H00 get automatically a winning ticket, is it fair ? Yes we lost nothing, it's cryptic who lost another chunck of our trust.
I don't see why some much hate mostly from people that didn't get any pack( I didn't got any if you ask) so what people got lucky chance was higher no one lost anything as they didn't had anything to begin with.
If devs said there be no rollback and they can keep it where is the problem. Only people that are selling and the one that didn't get any are furious.
All this year's people opened thousands and didn't get any no one said anythin.
And all people that are saying this will ruin market game . All are saying on other threads game is dying blabla so where is the problem.
I don't see why some much hate mostly from people that didn't get any pack( I didn't got any if you ask) so what people got lucky chance was higher no one lost anything as they didn't had anything to begin with.
If devs said there be no rollback and they can keep it where is the problem. Only people that are selling and the one that didn't get any are furious.
All this year's people opened thousands and didn't get any no one said anythin.
Where's the problem, really?
You don't see a problem when a rng-based lockbox gets rigged odds for everyone in a 5 minutes period of time before they shut down the server? You don't see a problem when, as you said perfectly, people open thousands of lockboxes during the year and don't get anything because of standard odds, then suddenly a few selected players get automatically a free legendary mount on their first key? You don't see a problem when there's literally more than 200.000€ worth of mounts dropped in 5 minutes to random people that were lucky to be connected in the 5 precious minutes? You don't see a problem for the community really, the fairness before odds doesn't ring a bell?
You have a very special conception of a game if you think that keeping a mount dropped by a bug is normal. And it's not a good one.
Yeah, see the thing is, 50/50 chances are still RNG. But that's not what this situation is. Those that were present, won. Those that were not, lost. Rubbing salt in the wound is not helpful.
Though i mostly agree with the "unfair" part of being right there right at the good instant, i can't let you say something like that : Those that were present, won. Those that were not, lost. But honestly what did they loose ?
I usually play lottery once a week in real life (Euromillion), but didn't last week for some reasons. Some people won various amount last friday (and one won 100 millions). Did I loose something ? Should i ask "la Française des Jeux" to reroll the draw because I wasn't in ?
Your envy and jealousy about people who won doesn't mean you have lost anything. (ok, yep, you have missed an opportunity, but opportunity is not synonym with guarantee of winning)
edit : just you to know, i was not ingame during the lockbox bugged leg mount RNG. So i didn't get one ^^
Seeing as I'm not riding around PE on my first Legendary mount... I'd say I lost about 1.3 mil AD
> @agilesto said: > (Quote) > Where's the problem, really? > > You don't see a problem when a rng-based lockbox gets rigged odds for everyone in a 5 minutes period of time before they shut down the server? You don't see a problem when, as you said perfectly, people open thousands of lockboxes during the year and don't get anything because of standard odds, then suddenly a few selected players get automatically a free legendary mount on their first key? You don't see a problem when there's literally more than 200.000€ worth of mounts dropped in 5 minutes to random people that were lucky to be connected in the 5 precious minutes? You don't see a problem for the community really, the fairness before odds doesn't ring a bell? > > You have a very special conception of a game if you think that keeping a mount dropped by a bug is normal. And it's not a good one.
I see only people that didn't get any mount and can't sell high theirs have problem . The other people are indifferent nw was like this all these years so what changed. Only if it is personal people get so excited 😁
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Anyway, nothing new around here that a reported preview version bug wanders into the live version without being fixed, but for a change man or woman up and do the right thing after such a fudged up mess...
that woudl destroy the market far more than the extra couple hundred that made it into the world already.
But when it happened, and maybe 200-300 people did get free leg mounts, what options did Cryptic have?
* They could roll back, which would not mean much play lost, but which would mean 4-5-6 hours delay on the mod launch. That would not be good with a lot of eager people waiting to get into the mod. And that is assuming they did take a backup of the player database before they installed the mod, but I assume that is done as a matter of routine.
* They could do as they did, just block the bug and carry on, then look into it later. The problem of course is that people will open those mount packs, sell the mounts or the packs, reconfigure characters around the mounts, etc etc. So it is really no easy way to get that toothpaste back into the tube. That people open the Stardock lockbox must all over be considered a normal event, since it is one of the newer lockboxes, so there can be no talk of exploits and punishments.
While we all would have preferred this did not happen, the consequence of 200-300 free Leg mounts into the economy should be fairly short-lived. Some of those Leg mounts will likely end up on alts that otherwise would not get a Leg mount too, so not all of those Leg mounts will enter the economy at all.
200-300 players get a boost they did not expect and should be happy.
Other players are unhappy because they missed out, but really.. you can't go around and be unhappy because some people are lucky. This is on the same level as someone being lucky with the RNG.
Cryptic will likely lose some income from this in the form of reduced lockbox key sales or reduced Leg mount sale at next Zen sale.
People trying to sell (legit) Leg mounts probably will experience a Leg mount price drop for a while, but can just postpone selling. The Leg mount Zen sales has anyways contributed to pushing Leg mount prices down.
All over.. I think Cryptic handled this the best possible way.
It should never have happened though, in particular since this was on the Test boards.
The only thing that comes to my mind is: Why the hell we have preview server? Why they spend resources on this?
When I commented on the reported issue in preview I couldnt imagine this could go live, even knowing the game history. (we had something similar in the past with nightmare mounts)
Reacting like nothing happened hurts Cryptics credibility and devaluate the game economy. 12M AD in value is not a joke, at 750 converting ratio is 16.000 zen, converted to money, thats a lot, just because you were lucky to enter the game in that timeframe. People that spend money will think 2 times, because really, this is not fair for them.
I personally dont care about not being a lucky one, because I dont need it, but people that is "new" in the game strugling to progress and spend money here and there to make their characters better will be very
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You clearly CAN NOT do that, in respect of all the players. It is CLERALY UNFAIR to the people with a different UTC or who couldn't log on. You must remove the drops from that issue, as well as you take in consideration in giving rollbacks.
Why people like me who have the possibility to open lockboxes (VIP or people with keys) should have this DISADVANTAGE in respect of who could log on yesterday? WHY?!
Because dropping a legendary mount pack is clearly an advantage and you are unfair.
You give the same chance to ALL or you give the chance to NO ONE.
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Give it to all VIPs or remove it from all.
It's unfair to who was not online.
There's no way ever this doesn't justify a rollback, especially since they managed to shutdown the server quickly thus no progression in terms of dungeons or campaign was made by anyone, only simple character management and lockbox opening.
They do have the logs of everything, so if we push that a bit further they could even compensate the epic/legendary loot people got on the non-glitched lockboxes, such as the player who got a T-Rex pack on the screen, not like they already have done a case by case review in some huntgates.
200 10k power mounts added in the span of a few minutes is no joke, considering you have usually about 1/10th of that in the same time on the AH. Also it's really a insult to players opening lockboxes fairly for years hoping to get a legit mount with the low odds, since few players, because they were connected in a limited timeframe, got a free one because of a bug.
The only solution was a rollback, and they had the possibility to do it. But no, I guess it's better to just screw the PC economy and playerbase a bit more. No one should keep a mount obtained by such a glitch, saying the opposite is absolute nonsense.
Beside, they could also introduce mythic mounts with module 19 lockboxes and everything would be back to "normal" until they fudge it up again during a following module release.
Pick yourself up and move on buckaroo...it is a game, you will be alright...
Now its too late to rollback best method is to retract all the legendary mount which comes from that bugged lockbox and refund the keys during that time frame.
"Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose."
Yeah, see the thing is, 50/50 chances are still RNG. But that's not what this situation is. Those that were present, won. Those that were not, lost. Rubbing salt in the wound is not helpful.
What i don't get, they lock the server down so that no more players can get in, they disable that lockbox so that no more legendary packs can be pulled from it, but then don't mark all those legendary mounts at the very least bound to account right away?
Anyway, guessing we'll get some official statement at some point about the drop chance of the Stardock lockbox being fixed, the lockbox will be open for bussiness again and that's it.
We are angry because they are not able to release modules without bugs we reported, we are angry because they treat us like they don't care.
Those that were present, won.
Those that were not, lost.
But honestly what did they loose ?
I usually play lottery once a week in real life (Euromillion), but didn't last week for some reasons. Some people won various amount last friday (and one won 100 millions).
Did I loose something ? Should i ask "la Française des Jeux" to reroll the draw because I wasn't in ?
Your envy and jealousy about people who won doesn't mean you have lost anything. (ok, yep, you have missed an opportunity, but opportunity is not synonym with guarantee of winning)
edit : just you to know, i was not ingame during the lockbox bugged leg mount RNG. So i didn't get one ^^
Not to mention, with a rollback of the table, which probably also include any notion of removing those packs and/or mounts picked from them, what other options are left to actually "correct" this mess?
Things like this shouldn't bring people bans, specially permanent, but it's clear to me that it's an unfair treatment between both cases. And yes, some people were caught into huntban cos they were in a party and still didn't know about any exploit.
There is not fair solution right now, I think. A rollback was the right thing to do, but it won't happens. It was a great opportunity to cement company credibility, but maybe that train passed long time ago.
What does it matter if it was 30 or 300 or 3000 people, except for economy (which is only damaging to people that want to sell leg mounts. Oh my, the tears! Sorry, this was envy saying hello)? If there is one person in this pool of people that decided to "hey I wanna go and open STARDOCK lockbox now! What a cool idea!!" that would have had a good RNG originally, yeah, too sad. My good RNG was a leg alembic.
I still believe what I said last night (or whenever this happened in your time) and I still don't think this changes anything for me personally (leg mount free account here) BUT I play lottery KNOWING that I won't get <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. If I wanted this in NW I would've opened the new lockbox while I knew others dropped all those leg mount boxes.
I mean, you see all those stardock pop ups and still go "Oh, Undying will HAVE to give me my swarm now!!"? No. You think "ah well 10k power, gimme. Maybe sell a few in a some months"
On a more important note: (Yes, I'm kinda having fun)
Before we talk about titles for this (I would love the stolen mount title if I had actually... well nevermind) I want my huntgate titles.
"Survived the banwave" or "Cards? What cards?" or "I told them not to do it!" ?? How bout it?
(Because we seem to have a different time understanding sarcasm and trolling here: This was a joke (kinda))
If the mount had been sold, remove AD from the solder and give back AD to the buyer.
It doesn't looks like it's difficult when those things are monitored.
If I take your example, what about if the day you didn't play, every one who bought a ticket at 14H00 get automatically a winning ticket, is it fair ? Yes we lost nothing, it's cryptic who lost another chunck of our trust.
If devs said there be no rollback and they can keep it where is the problem. Only people that are selling and the one that didn't get any are furious.
All this year's people opened thousands and didn't get any no one said anythin.
And all people that are saying this will ruin market game . All are saying on other threads game is dying blabla so where is the problem.
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You don't see a problem when a rng-based lockbox gets rigged odds for everyone in a 5 minutes period of time before they shut down the server? You don't see a problem when, as you said perfectly, people open thousands of lockboxes during the year and don't get anything because of standard odds, then suddenly a few selected players get automatically a free legendary mount on their first key? You don't see a problem when there's literally more than 200.000€ worth of mounts dropped in 5 minutes to random people that were lucky to be connected in the 5 precious minutes? You don't see a problem for the community really, the fairness before odds doesn't ring a bell?
You have a very special conception of a game if you think that keeping a mount dropped by a bug is normal. And it's not a good one.
There is yet to be an official statement on this.
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> You don't see a problem when a rng-based lockbox gets rigged odds for everyone in a 5 minutes period of time before they shut down the server? You don't see a problem when, as you said perfectly, people open thousands of lockboxes during the year and don't get anything because of standard odds, then suddenly a few selected players get automatically a free legendary mount on their first key? You don't see a problem when there's literally more than 200.000€ worth of mounts dropped in 5 minutes to random people that were lucky to be connected in the 5 precious minutes? You don't see a problem for the community really, the fairness before odds doesn't ring a bell?
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> You have a very special conception of a game if you think that keeping a mount dropped by a bug is normal. And it's not a good one.
I see only people that didn't get any mount and can't sell high theirs have problem . The other people are indifferent nw was like this all these years so what changed. Only if it is personal people get so excited 😁
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