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    drunkflux#5679 drunkflux Member Posts: 215 Arc User
    > @willamsheridan said:
    > Whil i liked all other ships so far i am honestly disappointed with these Sci ships. I expected a Tactical Spearhead from the Crossfield but get one less weapon instead and a more DPS oriented VOY but also only 3/3 weapons and 2 TAC consoles?
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    > And is it really the case that i will be able to use ALL the skins even if i do not own certain ships (i don't own the mirror crossfield or the pathfinder)

    Id just put the universal towards tactical on the intrepid. I am disappointed its light on tactical seating for a warship to. But it can still be devastating as a pure exotic.


    Thinking of ideas from lots of games for, dunno how long now.
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    drunkflux#5679 drunkflux Member Posts: 215 Arc User
    Didn't get to post or forgot but, impressed with the crossfield. It and the nx and sovereign have me sold at this point.


    Thinking of ideas from lots of games for, dunno how long now.
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,345 Arc User
    Seen the Crossfield, and I don't think it should be 4/2, my Spearhead is far superior to the Legendary.

    As for the Intrepid......This is the ONLY ship I'd actually buy from that pack (I'm a Sci nut). I have all the other ships in their C-Store/Lockbox guises, and the Legendary just don't have a selling point, apart from the Intrepid.
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    wideningxgyrewideningxgyre Member Posts: 710 Arc User
    I was initially put-off by even the sale price of 19,500 zen, but depending on what the final two ships in the bundle are (and whether there is a zen sale), I may actually be tempted.

    The Glen Crossfield, NX, Sovereign, and Intrepid are all looking good. Frankly, the Glen Crossfield is what Discovery SHOULD have been.
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    ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Well, if your Posts are vanishing, post that into the Hunting the Edit Monster Thread.
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    evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    ltminns wrote: »
    Well, if your Posts are vanishing, post that into the Hunting the Edit Monster Thread.

    No this is definitely not the edit monster, I've seen not just my own but other users posts vanish as well and they've all been about the same topic. For example, last week before anything showed up in-game I made a post wondering if the Intrepid would be in the bundle and wondering if Warship Voyager would be it's new costume, and I linked a screenshot from the Voyager TV show for reference. A little while later it was gone.
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    gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    I was initially put-off by even the sale price of 19,500 zen, but depending on what the final two ships in the bundle are (and whether there is a zen sale), I may actually be tempted.

    The Glen Crossfield, NX, Sovereign, and Intrepid are all looking good. Frankly, the Glen Crossfield is what Discovery SHOULD have been.

    I agree about the Glen, it's a beauty... wish i had that amount of money.
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    pwemademedothispwemademedothis Member Posts: 86 Arc User
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    lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    So far the reveals confirm the 10 ships seen on anniversary story arc episode - which practically confirms no KDF/Rom/JH ship unfortunately. Its a bit weird cause even if they had 1 good ship per each one of them they could have potential buyers that main such a race. The path they gone even if someone of us like one or more of the 10 ships, we wont get it due to feeling it was unfair
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    tidetogo1tidetogo1 Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    So far the reveals confirm the 10 ships seen on anniversary story arc episode - which practically confirms no KDF/Rom/JH ship unfortunately. Its a bit weird cause even if they had 1 good ship per each one of them they could have potential buyers that main such a race. The path they gone even if someone of us like one or more of the 10 ships, we wont get it due to feeling it was unfair

    But haven't the feds told you already? This is a HERO pack, nothing to see here, fed or dead. You can have traits. I look forward to saving the 200 bucks. Could go towards a new GPU or something for all the new games coming out this year.
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    cryptkeeper0cryptkeeper0 Member Posts: 989 Arc User
    szim wrote: »
    When I heard we would get warship voyager I imagined somehing a little bit more tactical oriented. A lieutenant tactical, 3/3 setup and pilot maneuvers? Seems a little odd.

    With all those weapons emplacements I was expecting either a Science Destroyer or even an Escort. Generic Science vessel stats just do NOT do that design justice.

    I think they should make the lt com engineer a UNI slot. That would fix a lot of the issues. Also fit the whole Multi-Mission Science Vessel theme better.
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    ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    > @evilmark444 said:
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    > No this is definitely not the edit monster, I've seen not just my own but other users posts vanish as well and they've all been about the same topic. For example, last week before anything showed up in-game I made a post wondering if the Intrepid would be in the bundle and wondering if Warship Voyager would be it's new costume, and I linked a screenshot from the Voyager TV show for reference. A little while later it was gone.

    I was being facetious. I saw in the GNN section two posts disappear. One person said, I wonder what the next four ships would be, and that was it. I responded that even though we know from the ending of Part 2 of the new Featured Episode we cannot say otherwise the post will be deleted because Cryptic wanted to keep up their cutsey reveals. They were both deleted.
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    szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    Ah, there is it, the first 6-Sci console capable science ship. I confess I am curious about the new intrepid's capability as a drain boat. It's just a shame about those 2 tac consoles; effectively forces the ship into an exotic torpedo armament.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
    szerontzur wrote: »
    Ah, there is it, the first 6-Sci console capable science ship. I confess I am curious about the new intrepid's capability as a drain boat. It's just a shame about those 2 tac consoles; effectively forces the ship into an exotic torpedo armament.

    It doesn't force her into anything. Yea she may not hit as hard as a cruiser or escort with her weapons alone, but she's also got science to back up the weapons.
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    captainbrian11captainbrian11 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
    tidetogo1 wrote: »
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    So far the reveals confirm the 10 ships seen on anniversary story arc episode - which practically confirms no KDF/Rom/JH ship unfortunately. Its a bit weird cause even if they had 1 good ship per each one of them they could have potential buyers that main such a race. The path they gone even if someone of us like one or more of the 10 ships, we wont get it due to feeling it was unfair

    But haven't the feds told you already? This is a HERO pack, nothing to see here, fed or dead. You can have traits. I look forward to saving the 200 bucks. Could go towards a new GPU or something for all the new games coming out this year.


    if we ever get a show about a Klingon or romulan ship you can bet we'll get all sorts of stuff for that
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    starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    So does the Legendary Discovery include Tactical Mode and the Agonized Subatomic Disintegrator from the Mirror Discovery? It is missing a rear weapon slot while both Discoveries have 4 front weapon slots and 3 rear weapon slots.
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    vampeiyrevampeiyre Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    phoenix841 wrote: »
    So, two interesting things of note with the Sovereign:
    • It doesn't have the Vizier trait
    • It doesn't have the wide-angle quantum torpedo

    I do have the Vizier, so I have both those items, though now I wish I hadn't spent that zen, zen which would bring me back up to having enough zen for this pack (I got it when it was 85% off).
    However, given it said "all traits," plus the Defiant came with the quad cannons, those two missing seem odd.

    That said, it's MW, so I will fly it as my main's main ship now. This is what I've always wanted, a MW ship that actually looks good.

    On Reddit, Kael said that's a typo, it'll have the Vizier trait, and the enhanced MW Slipstream drive. No one asked about the torpedo, but I imagine that'll be in there too.
    starkaos wrote: »
    So does the Legendary Discovery include Tactical Mode and the Agonized Subatomic Disintegrator from the Mirror Discovery? It is missing a rear weapon slot while both Discoveries have 4 front weapon slots and 3 rear weapon slots.

    Yes, Jette chimed in on a Reddit thread: If you buy the Legendary Bundle, you get the Agonized Subatomic Disintegrator to drop into your inventory, and also be available as an account unlock in the reclaim store.
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    starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    vampeiyre wrote: »
    starkaos wrote: »
    So does the Legendary Discovery include Tactical Mode and the Agonized Subatomic Disintegrator from the Mirror Discovery? It is missing a rear weapon slot while both Discoveries have 4 front weapon slots and 3 rear weapon slots.

    Yes, Jette chimed in on a Reddit thread: If you buy the Legendary Bundle, you get the Agonized Subatomic Disintegrator to drop into your inventory, and also be available as an account unlock in the reclaim store.

    Nice. So the Legendary Discovery doesn't have an experimental weapon slot? I guess it is a tradeoff for the Molecular Reconstruction ability.
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    whistlerdavidwhistlerdavid Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    does anyone know if we have to buy the bundle just to get one ship? i just want the Legendary Miracle Worker Multi-Mission Science Vessel and i do not want to spend almost 200 dollars for one ship
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    tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,637 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/544728655?t=01h01m12s

    No single ships, at least no solid plans. You have to buy the entire pack.
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    davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    Yes. Maybe in a year they'll split up the pack, but don't count on that.
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    whistlerdavidwhistlerdavid Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    Yes. Maybe in a year they'll split up the pack, but don't count on that.

    wouldnt be surprised if the re-release it has a tier 7 ship at some point
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    meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    szerontzur wrote: »
    Ah, there is it, the first 6-Sci console capable science ship. I confess I am curious about the new intrepid's capability as a drain boat. It's just a shame about those 2 tac consoles; effectively forces the ship into an exotic torpedo armament.


    So, what does the Legendary Miracle Worker Multi-Mission bundle cost then? It has what looks like a better Vesta in it, and, of course, Warship Voyager.
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    szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    Eh, I'm biased. I like tac-heavy sci ships so I can go ham with my torpedo builds. (I adore the MM-Sci Vessels for this reason, and wish we had more like it.)

    The level increases have only emphasized the impact of consoles(which is why a 6-Sci console ship is a pretty big deal). That said, there just isn't much "war" in warship voyager here - I know I certainly wouldn't try to do a transphasic build on it as an homage, much less an energy weapon build to fit the myriad of visual weapon hardpoints on the skin. If it atleast had aerofighter pets/a hangar, I wouldn't mind the substandard tac console count as much.
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    lasoniolasonio Member Posts: 490 Arc User
    So far there is one lobi ship, two lock box ships, and one infinity class ship, and the vizier trait and a bunch of MW ships and yet people are still complaining about the price. Go figure. Even at full price the legendary premium bundle would be infinitely cheaper then buying these ships piecemeal. It's pretty funny when you look at it. The players who purchased these ships at Mudd pricing (seeing into it that by this bundles estimation even an infinity box ship should only cost around $25-$30.00 but we paid 10x's that) and actually support the game beforehand get slapped in the face by cryptic and its still not enough to make the players who don't own them happy. This is pretty much why I don't support the game financially anymore. There's no upside.

    I will get this bundle but for my money they will have to continue releasing these types of bundles or I won't purchase anything.
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    cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    Is it a typo that the new Intrepid has twelve console slots?

    "Consoles: 2 Tactical, 4 Engineering, 5 Science, 1 Universal"
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    meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    cbrjwrr wrote: »
    Is it a typo that the new Intrepid has twelve console slots?

    "Consoles: 2 Tactical, 4 Engineering, 5 Science, 1 Universal"

    No, that's normal for a MW ship. What's unique, though, that it will be the first ship ever able to slot 6x sci consoles.
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    lasoniolasonio Member Posts: 490 Arc User
    does anyone know if we have to buy the bundle just to get one ship? i just want the Legendary Miracle Worker Multi-Mission Science Vessel and i do not want to spend almost 200 dollars for one ship

    Depends on the ships. Infinity class ships cost in the ball park of 300.00+ Each and lock box ships are in the 100-200.00 range depending on them and you get far far far far far less.

    Though this is more of a personal issue for you, the truth of the matter is 250.00 for the ships and extra's is far cheaper then buying one mirror crossfeild with less.

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    baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,326 Community Moderator
    If you want THESE ships and their unique skins, yes, you would need to buy the pack. But each of these ships has other variants available to be had individually.
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    evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    szerontzur wrote: »
    Ah, there is it, the first 6-Sci console capable science ship. I confess I am curious about the new intrepid's capability as a drain boat. It's just a shame about those 2 tac consoles; effectively forces the ship into an exotic torpedo armament.

    It doesn't force her into anything. Yea she may not hit as hard as a cruiser or escort with her weapons alone, but she's also got science to back up the weapons.

    THIS! SO much this!

    It's a SCIENCE ship! Honestly - these posts saying "blah blah not enough Tactical" are painfully disappointing and support the Devs' thought that 'Science ships don't sell'.

    Yes, the Intrepid is a science ship, however the Warship variant doesn't look anything like a science ship and deserves large tactical focus. On the top portion of the saucer alone I counted 29 phasers, that's a LOT more than any cruiser or escort. The Warship Intrepid should at the very least be a Science Destroyer, possibly even an Escort or Warship.
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