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  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 2,666 Bug Hunter
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    The Crossfield is definitely the ugliest ST ship I've ever seen

    Ugliest Canon ship maybe, but STO has several designs that are a lot worse, the Federation Dyson Destroyer being the absolute worst Trek design I have ever seen.

    Dude, Romulans have toilet brush ships. Dyson ships got nothing on those.

    I'd really like to see the Dyson Ship's return, even possibly another Event Dyson Ship.

    Don't know if it will happen, others still largely holding out for a Nova as well.
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  • centurian821centurian821 Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    Blog post has been taken down; looks like there's an update coming soon.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    Blog post has been taken down; looks like there's an update coming soon.

    Yeah, last reveal was around 1pm EST on Monday, so I'd expect it to be around the same time today.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Yes, next two probably, and the final two on Tuesday. We can't speculate, even though we know.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
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    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    strathkin wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    The Crossfield is definitely the ugliest ST ship I've ever seen

    Ugliest Canon ship maybe, but STO has several designs that are a lot worse, the Federation Dyson Destroyer being the absolute worst Trek design I have ever seen.

    Dude, Romulans have toilet brush ships. Dyson ships got nothing on those.

    I'd really like to see the Dyson Ship's return, even possibly another Event Dyson Ship.

    Don't know if it will happen, others still largely holding out for a Nova as well.


    I want a T6 Dyson Destroyer too; still holding out hope for that one, and ready to deploy my full Protonic set on it again. Not the kind of hope that can drive one into the arms of bitterness, but a slim hope nonetheless. (Which I suppose what hope always is. As a fave Captain of mine once said: "I've never known Hope when it wasn't on a diet.")

    And no, I really liked how they looked. Built-in DHC needs to beome upgradeable, though. But I was into the whole hybrid roles. And since we're apparently doing whole hybrid ships now, why not?!
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  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    strathkin wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    The Crossfield is definitely the ugliest ST ship I've ever seen

    Ugliest Canon ship maybe, but STO has several designs that are a lot worse, the Federation Dyson Destroyer being the absolute worst Trek design I have ever seen.

    Dude, Romulans have toilet brush ships. Dyson ships got nothing on those.

    I'd really like to see the Dyson Ship's return, even possibly another Event Dyson Ship.

    Don't know if it will happen, others still largely holding out for a Nova as well.

    I like actually all 9 dyson variants(10 with the lobi one) so its a pity they didnt get "upgraded" to T6
  • centurian821centurian821 Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    Blog post has been taken down; looks like there's an update coming soon.

    Yeah, last reveal was around 1pm EST on Monday, so I'd expect it to be around the same time today.

    I'm more surprised because blogs don't get posted on Fridays. At least I can't remember the last time that was the case.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Well, they need two more updates before next Thursday, if they're going to keep up with these cutsey reveals.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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  • centurian821centurian821 Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    True. I was expecting one yesterday and then the next would be Tuesday next week, but I guess that won't be the case.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    Blog post has been taken down; looks like there's an update coming soon.

    Yeah, last reveal was around 1pm EST on Monday, so I'd expect it to be around the same time today.

    I'm more surprised because blogs don't get posted on Fridays. At least I can't remember the last time that was the case.

    I believe there was a reveal last friday as well.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Today and Tuesday are still strong contenders. Yesterday, was a 'Honey, I blew up the Dyson Battlezone' day.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    crossfield and intrepid... but intrepid button leads to crossfield.
  • centurian821centurian821 Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    tigeraries wrote: »
    crossfield and intrepid... but intrepid button leads to crossfield.

    Mycelial shenanigans

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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    Somehow I find it morally questionable to add a ship to a lockbox, then a slightly different version to a promo pack... only to add another slightly different version with updated visuals and traits to the C-store.


    Has the person who thought this to be a defendable idea come up with a new Rule of Acquisition yet?
  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    When I heard we would get warship voyager I imagined somehing a little bit more tactical oriented. A lieutenant tactical, 3/3 setup and pilot maneuvers? Seems a little odd.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    The saucer looks nice btw. But that's about all the positive feedback that I can give to this move.


    I don't particularly care about this specific ship, but I find it wrong that items are more and more advertised as rare or only obtainable through one expensive method, and then change it a bit later after its rareness has been milked.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    The last two reveals will probably include the Ambassador.

    And perhaps the Enterprise J.

    I'd love to see the Vesta included though. It is somewhat of a hero ship if the novels are included. Though that might also make the Luna a good candidate for the last slot.
  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    So the Crossfield doesn't seem to have the destroyer transformation of the mirror Crossfield. It does offer the 2 existing traits for the other versions. The Glenn version does look slightly better than the basic Crossfield though by thinning that wing and bending up the nacelle pylons, but the nacelles are still way too big.

    The Intrepid is a miracle worker science ship? Definitely was not expecting that. I would have imagined a temporal ship with 4/2 layout for Warship Voyager. The new trait looks like absolute garbage though, what a waste.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    So the Crossfield doesn't seem to have the destroyer transformation of the mirror Crossfield. It does offer the 2 existing traits for the other versions. The Glenn version does look slightly better than the basic Crossfield though by thinning that wing and bending up the nacelle pylons, but the nacelles are still way too big.

    The Intrepid is a miracle worker science ship? Definitely was not expecting that. I would have imagined a temporal ship with 4/2 layout for Warship Voyager. The new trait looks like absolute garbage though, what a waste.

    It can use 6 Sci console slots though. That's very special. And makes it potentially even more lethal than most other Sci ships.
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    bah, intrepid still 3/3 weapons payload, they could up swapped it to 4/2. can use dual cannons thou... miracle worker multi-mission sci vessel... does it come with aux cannons?
  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    So the Crossfield doesn't seem to have the destroyer transformation of the mirror Crossfield. It does offer the 2 existing traits for the other versions. The Glenn version does look slightly better than the basic Crossfield though by thinning that wing and bending up the nacelle pylons, but the nacelles are still way too big.

    The Intrepid is a miracle worker science ship? Definitely was not expecting that. I would have imagined a temporal ship with 4/2 layout for Warship Voyager. The new trait looks like absolute garbage though, what a waste.

    It can use 6 Sci console slots though. That's very special. And makes it potentially even more lethal than most other Sci ships.

    Yes, but it only has 1 LTC and 1 Com sci at best which is also your miracle worker seating. That severely limits sci potential.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    szim wrote: »
    When I heard we would get warship voyager I imagined somehing a little bit more tactical oriented. A lieutenant tactical, 3/3 setup and pilot maneuvers? Seems a little odd.

    With all those weapons emplacements I was expecting either a Science Destroyer or even an Escort. Generic Science vessel stats just do NOT do that design justice.
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    In general I'm not impressed with this whole bundle though.

    I don't care about traits and consoles since I already have way too many options when it comes to those. So it's the visuals that will be decisive for me.

    The Defiant only has some special painting.
    The differences for the Sovereign are barely noticable.
    Same with the Intrepid.
    The Galaxy has so many different versions already that I doubt that a few more will add that much since every new addition has a lower marginal value. I'll check it out in the tailor if that will be possible but I doubt I'll be very impressed.
    I never cared much about the Kelvin or TOS Constitutions.

    The only ships that are noticably different from the original ones (and which didn't have too many options yet) and interesting to me anyway are the NX-01 and the Odyssey. So unless the final two yet-to-be-revealed ships are very, very interesting I think I'll pass on this.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    So the Crossfield doesn't seem to have the destroyer transformation of the mirror Crossfield. It does offer the 2 existing traits for the other versions. The Glenn version does look slightly better than the basic Crossfield though by thinning that wing and bending up the nacelle pylons, but the nacelles are still way too big.

    The Intrepid is a miracle worker science ship? Definitely was not expecting that. I would have imagined a temporal ship with 4/2 layout for Warship Voyager. The new trait looks like absolute garbage though, what a waste.

    It can use 6 Sci console slots though. That's very special. And makes it potentially even more lethal than most other Sci ships.

    Yes, but it only has 1 LTC and 1 Com sci at best which is also your miracle worker seating. That severely limits sci potential.

    Well ltc Sci and cmd Sci isn't really bad.

    To be honest, I only use miracle worker abilities on characters that use energy weapons because weapon system synergy is interesting for them.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    So the Crossfield doesn't seem to have the destroyer transformation of the mirror Crossfield. It does offer the 2 existing traits for the other versions. The Glenn version does look slightly better than the basic Crossfield though by thinning that wing and bending up the nacelle pylons, but the nacelles are still way too big.

    The Intrepid is a miracle worker science ship? Definitely was not expecting that. I would have imagined a temporal ship with 4/2 layout for Warship Voyager. The new trait looks like absolute garbage though, what a waste.

    It can use 6 Sci console slots though. That's very special. And makes it potentially even more lethal than most other Sci ships.

    Yes, but it only has 1 LTC and 1 Com sci at best which is also your miracle worker seating. That severely limits sci potential.

    The Warship Intrepid doesn't have a LtC Sci seat, only the Commander and a Lt Sci seat:
    Bridge Officer Stations: Lieutenant Tactical, Lieutenant Commander Engineering/Pilot, Lieutenant
    Science, Commander Science/Miracle Worker, Lieutenant Universal
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  • centurian821centurian821 Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    I'm quite liking the look of the Glenn. Didn't expect to at all.
  • willamsheridanwillamsheridan Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    Whil i liked all other ships so far i am honestly disappointed with these Sci ships. I expected a Tactical Spearhead from the Crossfield but get one less weapon instead and a more DPS oriented VOY but also only 3/3 weapons and 2 TAC consoles?

    And is it really the case that i will be able to use ALL the skins even if i do not own certain ships (i don't own the mirror crossfield or the pathfinder)
  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    So the Crossfield doesn't seem to have the destroyer transformation of the mirror Crossfield. It does offer the 2 existing traits for the other versions. The Glenn version does look slightly better than the basic Crossfield though by thinning that wing and bending up the nacelle pylons, but the nacelles are still way too big.

    The Intrepid is a miracle worker science ship? Definitely was not expecting that. I would have imagined a temporal ship with 4/2 layout for Warship Voyager. The new trait looks like absolute garbage though, what a waste.

    It can use 6 Sci console slots though. That's very special. And makes it potentially even more lethal than most other Sci ships.

    Yes, but it only has 1 LTC and 1 Com sci at best which is also your miracle worker seating. That severely limits sci potential.

    The Warship Intrepid doesn't have a LtC Sci seat, only the Commander and a Lt Sci seat:
    Bridge Officer Stations: Lieutenant Tactical, Lieutenant Commander Engineering/Pilot, Lieutenant
    Science, Commander Science/Miracle Worker, Lieutenant Universal

    Yes, that was my point. I could have been more specific, but yes the issue is it can only run 2 top tier sci abilities one LTC power and one Com power, and here those are also MW slots. Most sci ships get 2 LTC and one Com powers either static sci seats or the second LTC seat is a universal seat.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    edited February 2020
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    FYI, while that may seem like an intentional hint we are apparently not allowed to discuss it and your post will almost certainly be deleted. I say this because every one of my own posts on that topic have vanished.

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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    So the Crossfield doesn't seem to have the destroyer transformation of the mirror Crossfield. It does offer the 2 existing traits for the other versions. The Glenn version does look slightly better than the basic Crossfield though by thinning that wing and bending up the nacelle pylons, but the nacelles are still way too big.

    The Intrepid is a miracle worker science ship? Definitely was not expecting that. I would have imagined a temporal ship with 4/2 layout for Warship Voyager. The new trait looks like absolute garbage though, what a waste.

    It can use 6 Sci console slots though. That's very special. And makes it potentially even more lethal than most other Sci ships.

    Yes, but it only has 1 LTC and 1 Com sci at best which is also your miracle worker seating. That severely limits sci potential.

    The Warship Intrepid doesn't have a LtC Sci seat, only the Commander and a Lt Sci seat:
    Bridge Officer Stations: Lieutenant Tactical, Lieutenant Commander Engineering/Pilot, Lieutenant
    Science, Commander Science/Miracle Worker, Lieutenant Universal

    Yes, that was my point. I could have been more specific, but yes the issue is it can only run 2 top tier sci abilities one LTC power and one Com power, and here those are also MW slots. Most sci ships get 2 LTC and one Com powers either static sci seats or the second LTC seat is a universal seat.

    Ah ok, I misunderstood, I thought you were saying it had both a LtC Sci and a Commander Sci seat, lol.
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