Simply because this pack is federation centric doesn't mean they can't do a pack in the future for the other factions. Whether we like it or not most of the "hero" ships have all been federation ships. Given how things have went in the past I guarantee you they're going to release them in some kind of smaller packs 6 months to a year down the road. Would be a huge waste if they didn't. I could be wrong but we'll see. It's cool when they have a ship for each faction in the packs, but not every pack needs to have a ship for every faction in it. I can tell you guys i'm not buying the premium pack because all of that extra stuff I can scoop up no problem any time I wished with a little effort. I am however going to buy the basic bundle because most of those ships are upgrades to ships I use on some of my toons regularly, or that I would never go out of my way to buy otherwise, looking at you crossfield. If folks want to buy the bundle they're free to do so, if not then they don't have to.
You're funny. The Doms have gotten ONE ship since their faction was released. The Roms have gotten ONE ship in nearly 3 years and ONE warbird in OVER 3 years. And you think we are gonna get our own special faction bundles...yeah...you are a funny man there alright. It ain't gonna ever happen and you know it. Breaking up the legacy bundle...yeah that might...but please, those of us who ain't feddie bear know we will never get our own bundle. Especially the Roms and Doms.
Whether we actually do see additional ships for the other factions again or not is irrelevant to the fact at hand. The "hero" ships from the shows have almost always been Federation based ships, which makes sense for this pack. Simply because the primary focus of this pack is Federation based does not preclude them from doing a separate kind of legendary or even "former villains" pack of sorts for the other factions. As for romulans only getting one ship in 3 years, that is factually incorrect. Romulans have gotten their equivalent of the Miracle Worker ships in the large mega bundle with season 14 in October of 2017, the Romulan and KDF ships released with the Allied Pilot Escort mega bundle on Feb 15 2017, the Romulan and KDF equivalent of the Verne on April 3rd 2018, Romulan and KDF versions of the J in April 2017, and finally the KDF and Romulan variants in the temporal pack on July 18 2019. So in total that I could think off the top of my head that's 9 different Romulan ships on its own. I will grant you that's not alot of ships, but you are in fact getting ships even if it's not as many as you would like to see. Same goes for KDF and Dominion. If anyone needs more ships it's definitely the Dominion but that's a whole other can of worms.
Lastly, I suspect given past interactions you would not be making these statements if the perceived situation was reversed and all the other factions were the ones getting all the ships for the next 3 years. I highly suspect plenty of folks would be telling any federation primary player "you had your turn" or things along those lines. I want to see them make more KDF, Rom, and Jem'hadar ships as much as the next person, as I play all factions. However at the same time not all factions need to be included in every single pack. If folks don't want to invest, they won't have to, and thus can employ the "vote with your wallet" approach. Folks can also try to civilly ask them to produce additional ships for those factions as well.
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> I kinda doubt that you're more than a blip on the Cryptic bean counter's radar, but if you keep buying ships that are not Tier 6 Novas, I guess they have a reason to keep selling you other ships and they might feel better off selling you the one ship you really want - you might stop buying!
I may want a T6 Nova above all else, and it may be my favourite ship but, as you say, I'm undoubtedly not even a blip on the radar and honestly - it's been six years and NOTHING has given them incentive to look at the Nova.
Besides - I like what is on offer in this pack, I have chars that'll use the ships and I see no reason to cut off my nose to smite my face here. Even if there were a T6 Nova incoming it's not a ship ALL my chars would use.
sort of on same boat on the ships I want to see into T6 - a couple ships are T5 or even lower tier for a certain BoP. The only difference is mine are mostly KDF ships so the chances may be at best 0.1% to ever see them. Only one with better chances than that may be a T6 kar'fi if they added on a winter event
Ironically, I still see posts about the price. I'm guessing those people haven't seen the threads from people who have spent upwards of $700+ on keys for lock boxes and never got the ship they wanted. Potentially, this could actually save those players a lot of money. :P
I also hope they offer at least a smaller bundle. I am not interested in most of the ships so far, but the Intrepid is one I definitely want so far, even though it's stats suck.
I dont think the price is bad. Its just cryptic handled it poorly and delayed too much to start informing everyone as people were expecting to be able to buy the anniversary pack segment as usual so many cant have the money upfront in before the sale ends or even in general. They could had still not reveal the ships but they could say it would be a bundle of 10 with that expected price
For me the pack also isnt appealing since it has only Fed ships. My single Fed who is TOS has the ship I wanted for him its the Saggitarious T6 with the Gemini TOS skin. If they had done the typical format of 9-12 ships with 3 per faction I would probably save for it. I understood what was going on early since the first skin leak posts on tribble. I mean all the renewed skins were also fed-only. I will just buy expansions in Battletech and new mansion house in Elder Scrolls Online instead
I could have sworn the MW cruisers were BEFORE those allied pilots ships...which(the pilot ships) for the romulans were NOT warbirds mind you. And yes I will admit that the over 3 years since those was a mistake. And I suppose I took for granted when I made the statement of 1 ship since, I was talking about zen ships...not promo or lockbox ships...but oh well, my fault for not clarifying that. So fine, it's been 1 zen ship in over 2 years nearing 2 and half. Still not great there. And if you think the fact that we of the other factions are being ignored UTTERLY in irrelevant...yeah...why the hell did you even bring that aspect up? Yeah, we know we are being ignored...and yes I am voting with my wallet. I ain't getting TRIBBLE from them until I see support for the other factions... Hell, I ain't even gonna play much until than to be honest...so their metrics can suck it. Hell, I stopped playing all my feddie bears at this point in protest. Anything fed aligned is dead content to me. So yeah I am doing what you said. I am voting with my wallet...and I am letting them know I am displeased...as is my right as a consumer of their product. They can choose what to do with that...but I don't have to be nice about it after being ignored for almost 2 and a half years. My last recourse is to just leave. But as what I do left in this game costs me no money and almost no time investment...meh, I'll stick around to see if they come to their senses...but I have little hope of that.
First you need to dial it back a bit and keep it civil as otherwise it serves no purpose here.
Also you've changed the goal post compared to what it was before. First it was just romulan ships in general, now it's cstore ships. However with that said I agree with you I want to see more Romulan, KDF, and Jem'hadar ships in game. So you and I both want the same thing when it comes to seeing more Non-Federation ships in game. Also you have tried to twist my words. I never said folks asking for more Rom, KDF, or Jem'hadar ships was irrelevant. What I said was that it's irrelevant to the fact most "hero" ships in Trek have been Federation ships. Since most "hero" ships have been Federation ships, it makes sense as to why this pack is purely Federation focused. Simply because this pack is Federation focused, does not preclude them from doing something similar with Roms, KDF, or Jem'hadar in the future. Whether they will or not does not matter for the discussion at hand, as there is always the possibility they could do content like that in the future.
With that in mind, I'm not saying people can't ask for more Rom, KDF, or Jem'hadar stuff. What I AM saying however is you've not been ignored to the extent you think you have. You have more ships than you thought you had. There are also the early missions that are exclusive to each individual faction. Some of them have more episodes than others, but that does not mean you don't have some faction exclusive stuff. As a Fed toon I can't get the bat'leth from kahless like you can. You're certainly free to play whatever toon you wish on your account and spend/not spend your cash as you wish. However just because you're not getting as much content as you want does not mean you've not gotten content. Again I want to see more KDF, Rom, and Jem'hadar stuff as well, but until then it's an error to say folks have gotten nothing.
Also if not every faction needs to be in every bundle, why is the feedie bears in EVERY BUNDLE?!? Tell ya what, I will start to get back more active in this game and start buying ships again if they release even ONE bundle that has ZERO feddie bear content. I don't need 3 consecutive bundles with all factions in it to come back...just ONE with no feddie bears...lets see that happen. Or, how about a mission that is playable ONLY by other factions...not feddie bears at all. It doesn't even have to be a Romulan specific one...it could be a KDF only mission. If any of that happens, I will gladly shut up and get to playing this game regularly and buying ships again. But it won't. I'm not even being unreasonable and saying ignore the feddie bears for years...because I will come out and say that is wrong too...but can they for FRAK sake do ONE release with other factions in mind? And the answer is no...and you know it.
I can tell you why there are more Federation ships in game than the other factions but you're not going to like the answer. Quite simply, more people play Federation toons than the other factions, and there is more source material for them to draw from than with the other factions. As a business they're going to cater more towards the majority than those not part of the majority. This isn't to say they will never cater some content and such to those not part of the majority, simply that if they want to make the most money, the majority of content will also in some form or fashion have something for the dominate faction, which is Federation. I know that's not what you want to hear but that's the reality of things. Also they have done several releases with the other factions in mind, one only needs to look at any multi-faction bundle to see this. The new anniversary ship is one such example, and how they give us faction neutral ships any faction can use multiple times a year. The other factions are indeed included in that scenario even if it's not an exclusive.
Plus with the new Picard show streaming, there is now more chance of seeing Romulan ships on screen, perhaps new ships we haven't seen before they could bring in. Eventually you will get more ships, even if it's not as fast as you may like.
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People are losing sight of what kind of Anniversary this is. This is the 10th Anniversary of Star Trek Online, not of the Star Trek Franchise. So it's ten years of THIS game and all that went on in it.
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The matter @darkbladejk is also why they chose a 10th anniversary timing to do a fed only pack too on such a milestone. I mean its not like their marketting department doesnt realise we get the message that non-feds arent wanted on this game. If you remember They had said STO 10th celebration was for heroes and villains etc and here is the quotes from priority one interview in STLV:
"We really want this to be - you know, for the team, for the players, for everybody - we want this to be a true celebration of the heroes, of the villains, of the players, and try to create something that is a little bit different and a lot of fun."
"We really want to do something special here [for the 10th anniversary], it's tough to talk about without spoilers, but I can say that there are things that have been asked for over the years that we're certainly going to deliver against. 'Ships you've been waiting for' and the ability to get them in ways that you haven't been able to before. We're going to try to make them directly accessible rather than indirectly accessible. The content is starting to be outlined right now, but it's super cool and we're already pursuing some pretty special VO talent, a whole bunch of stuff around this that I can't wait to talk more about, and we can start to open the doors on that after Awakening."
"'How many ships?' More than one! Less than three hundred."
"For our anniversary? Well, here's a hint. What's the anniversary?" "It's the 10th anniversary."
"There might be 10 ships."
"Actually based on a conversation I had in the hallway on the way up here there might be more than 10!"
"There might be more than 10, it's a very cool plan for this."
I mean they created all this hype without mentioning 10th anniversary is for Federation players and even the ships you had been waiting for comment on the roadmap, I am not sure even if it covers the Federation players fully
My opinion is this anniversary had huge hits and misses
Best thing was the new episodes which were fun, followed by the new TFO and the return of 2 older ones. This is the best arc they have done of late so a huge plus there.
Giveaways were fairly good but no better than any previous anniversary ones - in fact we didnt get a ship during giveaways so overall they were slightly worse than average anniversary giveaway
The anniversary event grind event was slightly downgraded(better upgrades but untradeable materials) so I just grade it just ok
and the anniversary ship is just ok and worse than many other anniversaries
The ship pack is the epitome of ignoring a big portion of their playerbase and therefore is the worst among anniversary packs.(ignore KDF check, Ignore romulans check, ignore JH check). The only silver lining is you can see their visuals on making ships have improved but the truth remains, its pack that symbolises cryptic snubbing a decent part of their playerbase
"For our anniversary? Well, here's a hint. What's the anniversary?" "It's the 10th anniversary."
"There might be 10 ships."
"Actually based on a conversation I had in the hallway on the way up here there might be more than 10!"
"There might be more than 10, it's a very cool plan for this."
I mean they created all this hype without mentioning 10th anniversary is for Federation players and even the ships you had been waiting for comment on the roadmap, I am not sure even if it covers the Federation players fully
My opinion is this anniversary had huge hits and misses
Best thing was the new episodes which were fun, followed by the new TFO and the return of 2 older ones. This is the best arc they have done of late so a huge plus there.
I agree with most of this but I have this weird feeling we will see a villain or the like pack in the near future maybe next month ? But I agree there have been great things like the episodes and the TFO, descent things like the fusion ship. Bad things like what they did to omega upgrades. ugly things like not selling the ships individually, even though I'm likely on getting the pack(especially if the make all the ships dual specialization and enhance the consoles), I feel no bad feeling towards anyone who just wants one or two ships.
People are losing sight of what kind of Anniversary this is. This is the 10th Anniversary of Star Trek Online, not of the Star Trek Franchise. So it's ten years of THIS game and all that went on in it.
I cannot help but feel the irony of your statement, because, well, this was supposed to be a massive, festive occasion, instead of it all being about trying to sell us the biggest bundle ever. Cryptic may think, 'Unfair to the payor, not the payee.' For many ppl this will leave a bitter taste in their mouth, though: not just because they can't just (responsibly) cough up $300 all at once, but also because the promo is time-limited. So, it's essentially just a matter of POGO (using the acronym, to stay polite).
Not saying I'm against the Anniversary bundles. But when did it become only about the Anniversary bundles?! And where is this awesome guest Geko was supposed to have in his booth? It all sounded so exciting. And perhaps I'm being too cynical, but I felt more part of a community when Leonard Nimoy died, than I do with this Anniversary.
Also if not every faction needs to be in every bundle, why is the feedie bears in EVERY BUNDLE?!?
Maybe because Star Trek, as a franchise, has always been about the Federation, and most people play the Federation in STO because that is what is Star Trek to them, and so Cryptic makes content for where the money is, which is, Federation content.
It's a valid explanation for favoring the Federation with their releases, absolutely. But bear in mind, Cryptic made the decision to include Klingons, Romulans, and the Dominion as playable factions as well. It's not entirely unreasonable for people to have been expecting iconic ships from those factions as well. Certainly the Vor'cha, B'rel, D'deridex, and Jem'hadar Attack Ship all have strong cases for anniversary revamps.
And while you are technically right in that the release of zen Romulan ships is not as bad as I orginally stated, nearing 2 and half years...still terrible...even if it's a smidge less terrible...it's still GD terrible.
I don't generally agree with the tone but I agree with the sentiment. I hope to see more Romulan ships in the future. I do not consider a 3 pack of Dewan ships to be an adequate substitute for Romulan and Reman ships. The Dewans are not what I day dreamed of as a kid when I thought about Romulan ships. There's only been 1 Romulan ship released since the miracle worker ships back in October 2017. I hope that trend doesn't continue.
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And where is this awesome guest Geko was supposed to have in his booth?
Its possible he was referring to Burnham and Seven. Also if you look up the guy who redubbed the lines for Noye... you'd discover the dude's been in just about every Trek since TNG as a guest start. Did two episodes as a Jem'Hadar in DS9, but did the most work as the Humanoid Figure benefactor for the Suliban in Enterprise.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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There were some speculating in the day that Archer was 'Future Guy'. Just as believable as any 'tease' coming from Geko.
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And while you are technically right in that the release of zen Romulan ships is not as bad as I orginally stated, nearing 2 and half years...still terrible...even if it's a smidge less terrible...it's still GD terrible.
I don't generally agree with the tone but I agree with the sentiment. I hope to see more Romulan ships in the future. I do not consider a 3 pack of Dewan ships to be an adequate substitute for Romulan and Reman ships. The Dewans are not what I day dreamed of as a kid when I thought about Romulan ships. There's only been 1 Romulan ship released since the miracle worker ships back in October 2017. I hope that trend doesn't continue.
Me too.... It is why I have high hopes for the Picard series lighting a fire under the devs.
I been playing the Vaadwaur box ships in lieu of Rommie ships as they are the closest thing to Rommie ships in game I think. I justify it as an exchange program of sorts. Nonetheless real Rommie ships would be nice.
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in fairness the dominion has a pretty limited slate of ships, I honestly don't think we're going to see much new for them as there's not much room, I mean most people playing dominion presumably wanna play one of the canon dominion ships. this could possiably apply to romulans as well. I imagine picard'll give us some new romulan options, I doubt we'll see anything new for the dominion, heck I expect the dominion won't even get mentioned
considering the dominion is currently back in the gamma quadrant licking their wounds, i'd definitely not expect them to get more than a passing mention in picard, if that
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The Alliance opens up some unusual possibilities, like a Romulan/Jem'Hadar hybrid ship. Another thing that might indicate them thinking about releasing more Romulan ships is that Fed/KDF chars can now fly most Romulan ships. So any Romulan ships they release would be Fed usable. (I haven't checked if Jem'Hadar can fly Romulan ships now, I probably should do that.) Ultimately, the Federation has always gotten more ships, and ship variations, then the other factions. (And here I'm talking about costumes for free level up ships, old Fed ships usually had 3 free costumes, Romulans/KDF may only have 1 or 2 plus zen store costumes.) Of course, I'm not sure what percentage of people actually use ship customization. I love ship customization, but I've seen lots of generic ships around.
Oh, and I'm amazed the Vo'quv has fans. Nova, Oberth, and others I can see, but the Vo'quv isn't exactly one of my favorite ships. (Even though my Orion KDF char has 2, one mirror.) Maybe they have better RCS consoles then I've got.
in fairness the dominion has a pretty limited slate of ships, I honestly don't think we're going to see much new for them as there's not much room, I mean most people playing dominion presumably wanna play one of the canon dominion ships. this could possiably apply to romulans as well. I imagine picard'll give us some new romulan options, I doubt we'll see anything new for the dominion, heck I expect the dominion won't even get mentioned
Well if we want to be totally fair Starfleet is the only faction that had a wide array of ships.
From TNG to Voyager we only were introduced to 2 new ships...from the same period for Romulans we only saw 2 (or 3 if you want to count the Scimitar as "Romulan")
From Kelvin we only got 1 "new" ship from each
So it's not like the Devs can't come up with new ships, they probably don't want or care to since they likely wont bring in as much money as the 100th new Fed ship (And who can blame the players? Why would you want to play a faction that is abandoned by the Devs? Would Klingons be getting as much love as they do if season one of Discovery didn't focus a lot on them?)
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At the end of the day, especialy with a free to play game, the devs have to focus resources on content that will bring a return. 80% of the player base is Federation so 80% of the profit will come from content that feds can and will make use of.
I'm a Klingon fanbois and I have to accept this. I think the Khitomer class is a harbinger of what is to come with the next phase of game expansion being focused on joint designs and this Alliance storyline.
considering the dominion is currently back in the gamma quadrant licking their wounds, i'd definitely not expect them to get more than a passing mention in picard, if that
Whilst I don't expect to see, or even hear about the Dominion in the Picard series, it's been nearly 25 years since the Dominion War, and knowing how fast they can produce soldiers and ships, I doubt very much that they're sat there licking their wounds.
If Odo is has anything to say on their existence, then their priorities may have shifted, but I'm sure that if they wanted too, they could lay siege to the Alpha Quadrant within half the years gone by, and now the Federation-Klingon alliance hasn't got the Romulan Star Empire to bail them out.
Well, how about a LTS Shuttle for the Dominion, like all the other Factions get.
So far in Picard coming Attractions, we've seen a new Romulan ship and some sort of T'Varo.
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I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet, but they finally added a description to the new Defiant trait.
NEW: Over-Powered and Over-Gunned (Account-Unlocked Starship Trait)
Activating Fire at Will, Beam Overload, Cannon Rapid Fire, or Cannon
Scatter Volley improves weapon haste dramatically for a short time. The duration increases
with global Critical Strike Chance, up to double duration at 50% global Critical Strike Chance.
It is speculation without the numbers behind it, but this seems like potentially a must have trait for every crit heavy build.
The blog for the bundle appears to have disappeared again, so it seems the next (and possibly final) reveal is imminent.
Thank Gawd. These disappearing posts are getting really tiresome. It will be great to finally be able to talk about these ships once they have all been officially revealed
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Whether we actually do see additional ships for the other factions again or not is irrelevant to the fact at hand. The "hero" ships from the shows have almost always been Federation based ships, which makes sense for this pack. Simply because the primary focus of this pack is Federation based does not preclude them from doing a separate kind of legendary or even "former villains" pack of sorts for the other factions. As for romulans only getting one ship in 3 years, that is factually incorrect. Romulans have gotten their equivalent of the Miracle Worker ships in the large mega bundle with season 14 in October of 2017, the Romulan and KDF ships released with the Allied Pilot Escort mega bundle on Feb 15 2017, the Romulan and KDF equivalent of the Verne on April 3rd 2018, Romulan and KDF versions of the J in April 2017, and finally the KDF and Romulan variants in the temporal pack on July 18 2019. So in total that I could think off the top of my head that's 9 different Romulan ships on its own. I will grant you that's not alot of ships, but you are in fact getting ships even if it's not as many as you would like to see. Same goes for KDF and Dominion. If anyone needs more ships it's definitely the Dominion but that's a whole other can of worms.
Lastly, I suspect given past interactions you would not be making these statements if the perceived situation was reversed and all the other factions were the ones getting all the ships for the next 3 years. I highly suspect plenty of folks would be telling any federation primary player "you had your turn" or things along those lines. I want to see them make more KDF, Rom, and Jem'hadar ships as much as the next person, as I play all factions. However at the same time not all factions need to be included in every single pack. If folks don't want to invest, they won't have to, and thus can employ the "vote with your wallet" approach. Folks can also try to civilly ask them to produce additional ships for those factions as well.
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sort of on same boat on the ships I want to see into T6 - a couple ships are T5 or even lower tier for a certain BoP. The only difference is mine are mostly KDF ships so the chances may be at best 0.1% to ever see them. Only one with better chances than that may be a T6 kar'fi if they added on a winter event
I dont think the price is bad. Its just cryptic handled it poorly and delayed too much to start informing everyone as people were expecting to be able to buy the anniversary pack segment as usual so many cant have the money upfront in before the sale ends or even in general. They could had still not reveal the ships but they could say it would be a bundle of 10 with that expected price
For me the pack also isnt appealing since it has only Fed ships. My single Fed who is TOS has the ship I wanted for him its the Saggitarious T6 with the Gemini TOS skin. If they had done the typical format of 9-12 ships with 3 per faction I would probably save for it. I understood what was going on early since the first skin leak posts on tribble. I mean all the renewed skins were also fed-only. I will just buy expansions in Battletech and new mansion house in Elder Scrolls Online instead
Also you've changed the goal post compared to what it was before. First it was just romulan ships in general, now it's cstore ships. However with that said I agree with you I want to see more Romulan, KDF, and Jem'hadar ships in game. So you and I both want the same thing when it comes to seeing more Non-Federation ships in game. Also you have tried to twist my words. I never said folks asking for more Rom, KDF, or Jem'hadar ships was irrelevant. What I said was that it's irrelevant to the fact most "hero" ships in Trek have been Federation ships. Since most "hero" ships have been Federation ships, it makes sense as to why this pack is purely Federation focused. Simply because this pack is Federation focused, does not preclude them from doing something similar with Roms, KDF, or Jem'hadar in the future. Whether they will or not does not matter for the discussion at hand, as there is always the possibility they could do content like that in the future.
With that in mind, I'm not saying people can't ask for more Rom, KDF, or Jem'hadar stuff. What I AM saying however is you've not been ignored to the extent you think you have. You have more ships than you thought you had. There are also the early missions that are exclusive to each individual faction. Some of them have more episodes than others, but that does not mean you don't have some faction exclusive stuff. As a Fed toon I can't get the bat'leth from kahless like you can. You're certainly free to play whatever toon you wish on your account and spend/not spend your cash as you wish. However just because you're not getting as much content as you want does not mean you've not gotten content. Again I want to see more KDF, Rom, and Jem'hadar stuff as well, but until then it's an error to say folks have gotten nothing.
I can tell you why there are more Federation ships in game than the other factions but you're not going to like the answer. Quite simply, more people play Federation toons than the other factions, and there is more source material for them to draw from than with the other factions. As a business they're going to cater more towards the majority than those not part of the majority. This isn't to say they will never cater some content and such to those not part of the majority, simply that if they want to make the most money, the majority of content will also in some form or fashion have something for the dominate faction, which is Federation. I know that's not what you want to hear but that's the reality of things. Also they have done several releases with the other factions in mind, one only needs to look at any multi-faction bundle to see this. The new anniversary ship is one such example, and how they give us faction neutral ships any faction can use multiple times a year. The other factions are indeed included in that scenario even if it's not an exclusive.
Plus with the new Picard show streaming, there is now more chance of seeing Romulan ships on screen, perhaps new ships we haven't seen before they could bring in. Eventually you will get more ships, even if it's not as fast as you may like.
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l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
"We really want this to be - you know, for the team, for the players, for everybody - we want this to be a true celebration of the heroes, of the villains, of the players, and try to create something that is a little bit different and a lot of fun."
"We really want to do something special here [for the 10th anniversary], it's tough to talk about without spoilers, but I can say that there are things that have been asked for over the years that we're certainly going to deliver against. 'Ships you've been waiting for' and the ability to get them in ways that you haven't been able to before. We're going to try to make them directly accessible rather than indirectly accessible. The content is starting to be outlined right now, but it's super cool and we're already pursuing some pretty special VO talent, a whole bunch of stuff around this that I can't wait to talk more about, and we can start to open the doors on that after Awakening."
"'How many ships?' More than one! Less than three hundred."
"For our anniversary? Well, here's a hint. What's the anniversary?" "It's the 10th anniversary."
"There might be 10 ships."
"Actually based on a conversation I had in the hallway on the way up here there might be more than 10!"
"There might be more than 10, it's a very cool plan for this."
I mean they created all this hype without mentioning 10th anniversary is for Federation players and even the ships you had been waiting for comment on the roadmap, I am not sure even if it covers the Federation players fully
My opinion is this anniversary had huge hits and misses
Best thing was the new episodes which were fun, followed by the new TFO and the return of 2 older ones. This is the best arc they have done of late so a huge plus there.
Giveaways were fairly good but no better than any previous anniversary ones - in fact we didnt get a ship during giveaways so overall they were slightly worse than average anniversary giveaway
The anniversary event grind event was slightly downgraded(better upgrades but untradeable materials) so I just grade it just ok
and the anniversary ship is just ok and worse than many other anniversaries
The ship pack is the epitome of ignoring a big portion of their playerbase and therefore is the worst among anniversary packs.(ignore KDF check, Ignore romulans check, ignore JH check). The only silver lining is you can see their visuals on making ships have improved but the truth remains, its pack that symbolises cryptic snubbing a decent part of their playerbase
I agree with most of this but I have this weird feeling we will see a villain or the like pack in the near future maybe next month ? But I agree there have been great things like the episodes and the TFO, descent things like the fusion ship. Bad things like what they did to omega upgrades. ugly things like not selling the ships individually, even though I'm likely on getting the pack(especially if the make all the ships dual specialization and enhance the consoles), I feel no bad feeling towards anyone who just wants one or two ships.
I cannot help but feel the irony of your statement, because, well, this was supposed to be a massive, festive occasion, instead of it all being about trying to sell us the biggest bundle ever. Cryptic may think, 'Unfair to the payor, not the payee.' For many ppl this will leave a bitter taste in their mouth, though: not just because they can't just (responsibly) cough up $300 all at once, but also because the promo is time-limited. So, it's essentially just a matter of POGO (using the acronym, to stay polite).
Not saying I'm against the Anniversary bundles. But when did it become only about the Anniversary bundles?! And where is this awesome guest Geko was supposed to have in his booth? It all sounded so exciting. And perhaps I'm being too cynical, but I felt more part of a community when Leonard Nimoy died, than I do with this Anniversary.
It's a valid explanation for favoring the Federation with their releases, absolutely. But bear in mind, Cryptic made the decision to include Klingons, Romulans, and the Dominion as playable factions as well. It's not entirely unreasonable for people to have been expecting iconic ships from those factions as well. Certainly the Vor'cha, B'rel, D'deridex, and Jem'hadar Attack Ship all have strong cases for anniversary revamps.
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I don't generally agree with the tone but I agree with the sentiment. I hope to see more Romulan ships in the future. I do not consider a 3 pack of Dewan ships to be an adequate substitute for Romulan and Reman ships. The Dewans are not what I day dreamed of as a kid when I thought about Romulan ships. There's only been 1 Romulan ship released since the miracle worker ships back in October 2017. I hope that trend doesn't continue.
Its possible he was referring to Burnham and Seven. Also if you look up the guy who redubbed the lines for Noye... you'd discover the dude's been in just about every Trek since TNG as a guest start. Did two episodes as a Jem'Hadar in DS9, but did the most work as the Humanoid Figure benefactor for the Suliban in Enterprise.
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There were some speculating in the day that Archer was 'Future Guy'. Just as believable as any 'tease' coming from Geko.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Me too.... It is why I have high hopes for the Picard series lighting a fire under the devs.
I been playing the Vaadwaur box ships in lieu of Rommie ships as they are the closest thing to Rommie ships in game I think. I justify it as an exchange program of sorts. Nonetheless real Rommie ships would be nice.
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Oh, and I'm amazed the Vo'quv has fans. Nova, Oberth, and others I can see, but the Vo'quv isn't exactly one of my favorite ships. (Even though my Orion KDF char has 2, one mirror.) Maybe they have better RCS consoles then I've got.
Well if we want to be totally fair Starfleet is the only faction that had a wide array of ships.
From TNG to Voyager we only were introduced to 2 new ships...from the same period for Romulans we only saw 2 (or 3 if you want to count the Scimitar as "Romulan")
From Kelvin we only got 1 "new" ship from each
So it's not like the Devs can't come up with new ships, they probably don't want or care to since they likely wont bring in as much money as the 100th new Fed ship (And who can blame the players? Why would you want to play a faction that is abandoned by the Devs? Would Klingons be getting as much love as they do if season one of Discovery didn't focus a lot on them?)
I'm a Klingon fanbois and I have to accept this. I think the Khitomer class is a harbinger of what is to come with the next phase of game expansion being focused on joint designs and this Alliance storyline.
One word: SRO.
If Odo is has anything to say on their existence, then their priorities may have shifted, but I'm sure that if they wanted too, they could lay siege to the Alpha Quadrant within half the years gone by, and now the Federation-Klingon alliance hasn't got the Romulan Star Empire to bail them out.
So far in Picard coming Attractions, we've seen a new Romulan ship and some sort of T'Varo.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
It is speculation without the numbers behind it, but this seems like potentially a must have trait for every crit heavy build.
Thank Gawd. These disappearing posts are getting really tiresome. It will be great to finally be able to talk about these ships once they have all been officially revealed
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