Is there a dev or a mod or any other official statement that I'm not aware of? I see "multi-mission" but not "multi-faction" ships. As far as I can tell, there is no ship for the KDF or Roms. Of course for me the difference is between a slight grumbling about lack of cultural identity as opposed to disgust at the most blatant "F**k you" to the KDF/Roms I have seen in some time.
One of the devs answered this on Reddit. The Eternal and Ouroboros are cross-faction; everything else is Fed.
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Is there a dev or a mod or any other official statement that I'm not aware of? I see "multi-mission" but not "multi-faction" ships. As far as I can tell, there is no ship for the KDF or Roms. Of course for me the difference is between a slight grumbling about lack of cultural identity as opposed to disgust at the most blatant "F**k you" to the KDF/Roms I have seen in some time.
One of the devs answered this on Reddit. The Eternal and Ouroboros are cross-faction; everything else is Fed.
The term used was: "faction agnostic". Which I take to mean an alien ship...unable to customize per faction.
I really hate the way Cryptic and PWE are so vague with their game news. They must know they are going to end up provoking all the faction angst in their player base when they leave things hanging like this.
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Except for the last 20 years it has been considered part of Official Canon by both Paramount and CBS.
(and has been republished Four times)
And until Roddenberry got annoyed with Mr. Joseph, he considered it canon also.
It's the very first OFFICIALLY SANCTIONED piece of Trek Merchandise.
It was used as reference material for "The Motion Picture", "The Wrath of Khan" and was even part of the Writers Handbook for Phase II.
To try and demean it now is just petty.
it never appeared on screen, it isnt canon. to call it canon is to call prelude to axanar canon as well.. twisting that logic there a bit huh?
Parts of the artwork did actually appear "on screen" in both TMP & TWOK.
And parts of the verse were actually called out in TMP as background references.
Also, the folks that actually created those two movies, have been quoted through the years as saying that they purposely did that, so it would be considered part of the Official Canon.
I've been a really heavy Trek Geek for as long as the IP has been around.
Devouring any and all info I could get my hands on for the last 50 years and I have an extensive library of Books, Magazines and Articles all about Trek.
I don't expect anybody to take my word for it, but it's quite easy to look these things up for yourself with this new fangled thing called the internetz.
the saladin/hermies-class blue prints is on a screen as one of the ships in dock. and the freedom's name and registry is also on a master list of ships in orbit
Is there a dev or a mod or any other official statement that I'm not aware of? I see "multi-mission" but not "multi-faction" ships. As far as I can tell, there is no ship for the KDF or Roms. Of course for me the difference is between a slight grumbling about lack of cultural identity as opposed to disgust at the most blatant "F**k you" to the KDF/Roms I have seen in some time.
One of the devs answered this on Reddit. The Eternal and Ouroboros are cross-faction; everything else is Fed.
The term used was: "faction agnostic". Which I take to mean an alien ship...unable to customize per faction.
I really hate the way Cryptic and PWE are so vague with their game news. They must know they are going to end up provoking all the faction angst in their player base when they leave things hanging like this.
I'm pretty sure their plan was to explain it next blog when they give out more detailed info. Also, I have yet to see an official comment stating that ONLY two of the ships are "faction agnostic" as Swall put it. It does seem like a viable interpretation, but it's not confirmed.
Except for the last 20 years it has been considered part of Official Canon by both Paramount and CBS.
(and has been republished Four times)
And until Roddenberry got annoyed with Mr. Joseph, he considered it canon also.
It's the very first OFFICIALLY SANCTIONED piece of Trek Merchandise.
It was used as reference material for "The Motion Picture", "The Wrath of Khan" and was even part of the Writers Handbook for Phase II.
To try and demean it now is just petty.
it never appeared on screen, it isnt canon. to call it canon is to call prelude to axanar canon as well.. twisting that logic there a bit huh?
Parts of the artwork did actually appear "on screen" in both TMP & TWOK.
And parts of the verse were actually called out in TMP as background references.
Also, the folks that actually created those two movies, have been quoted through the years as saying that they purposely did that, so it would be considered part of the Official Canon.
I've been a really heavy Trek Geek for as long as the IP has been around.
Devouring any and all info I could get my hands on for the last 50 years and I have an extensive library of Books, Magazines and Articles all about Trek.
I don't expect anybody to take my word for it, but it's quite easy to look these things up for yourself with this new fangled thing called the internetz.
the saladin/hermies-class blue prints is on a screen as one of the ships in dock. and the freedom's name and registry is also on a master list of ships in orbit
blueprints and names do not cover it, it has to be an onscreen ship appearance.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Sorry, your ideas don't trump what was shown on screen.
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Except for the last 20 years it has been considered part of Official Canon by both Paramount and CBS.
(and has been republished Four times)
And until Roddenberry got annoyed with Mr. Joseph, he considered it canon also.
It's the very first OFFICIALLY SANCTIONED piece of Trek Merchandise.
It was used as reference material for "The Motion Picture", "The Wrath of Khan" and was even part of the Writers Handbook for Phase II.
To try and demean it now is just petty.
it never appeared on screen, it isnt canon. to call it canon is to call prelude to axanar canon as well.. twisting that logic there a bit huh?
Parts of the artwork did actually appear "on screen" in both TMP & TWOK.
And parts of the verse were actually called out in TMP as background references.
Also, the folks that actually created those two movies, have been quoted through the years as saying that they purposely did that, so it would be considered part of the Official Canon.
I've been a really heavy Trek Geek for as long as the IP has been around.
Devouring any and all info I could get my hands on for the last 50 years and I have an extensive library of Books, Magazines and Articles all about Trek.
I don't expect anybody to take my word for it, but it's quite easy to look these things up for yourself with this new fangled thing called the internetz.
the saladin/hermies-class blue prints is on a screen as one of the ships in dock. and the freedom's name and registry is also on a master list of ships in orbit
blueprints and names do not cover it, it has to be an onscreen ship appearance.
Nah, blueprints and names that appear on screens do still cover it. Like the Wambundu. It's definitely a canon ship as it's a class that appears on readouts often in TNG. We just never saw a model for it.
Sorry, your ideas don't trump what was shown on screen.
and you have yet to prove the blueprint themselves were not just an idea that never made it past prototyping even for the sake of your head canon that you consider them canon.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Ya know, you can be a negative-nelly all ya want.
I honestly don't care.
But your wrong on this one and all the double-talk you want to spout, isn't going to change the facts.
You go ahead and continue to believe what you want, while the rest of us accept what has actually occurred.
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Lovely to get into the TOS period, it's LONG overdue.
However, upon reviewing the packs, I'm a bit disappointed by the ships. Notably, the Daedalus class ship was nearly 100 years old by the time the Constitution entered service, yet you've STILL relegated the most powerful Federation starship of the TOS era to mere Tier 1 status.
It continues to make me sad that the most iconic, most famous and most significant Star Trek starship remains condemned to near uselessness.
All the ships have Temporal in their names, so I guess those are ships upgraded to counter the temporal incursion threat. Because otherwise how would those ships be able to compete with technology centuries ahead ?
The first part of the story might just be about discovering what's happening, and at that point you still fly a vanilla TOS ship.
Lovely to get into the TOS period, it's LONG overdue.
However, upon reviewing the packs, I'm a bit disappointed by the ships. Notably, the Daedalus class ship was nearly 100 years old by the time the Constitution entered service, yet you've STILL relegated the most powerful Federation starship of the TOS era to mere Tier 1 status.
It continues to make me sad that the most iconic, most famous and most significant Star Trek starship remains condemned to near uselessness.
I'm pretty sure that's a CBS mandate. So blame CBS.
I've been thinking and don't think I saw anyone ask. Since this T6 ships are from the future where both klingons and romulans belong to the galactic empire will they come with a battlecloak?
Im hoping the no endgame connie has changed since they r now allowing t6 tos ships. Would b weired to be able to use a daed at t6 which is older the the con
I've been thinking and don't think I saw anyone ask. Since this T6 ships are from the future where both klingons and romulans belong to the galactic empire will they come with a battlecloak?
I think that question will have to wait for the ship stats blogs later
Lovely to get into the TOS period, it's LONG overdue.
However, upon reviewing the packs, I'm a bit disappointed by the ships. Notably, the Daedalus class ship was nearly 100 years old by the time the Constitution entered service, yet you've STILL relegated the most powerful Federation starship of the TOS era to mere Tier 1 status.
It continues to make me sad that the most iconic, most famous and most significant Star Trek starship remains condemned to near uselessness.
I'm pretty sure that's a CBS mandate. So blame CBS.
But the mandate doesn't make sense now. If you are doing an actual TOS era then the Connie should near the end of of the tree not at the front. She is a powerful ship. originally only 12 were planned. So having her T1 in the TOS era MAKES NO DARN SENSE!
Ya know, you can be a negative-nelly all ya want.
I honestly don't care.
But your wrong on this one and all the double-talk you want to spout, isn't going to change the facts.
You go ahead and continue to believe what you want, while the rest of us accept what has actually occurred.
ignorance huh? thats none of my business. moving on.
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Yh the daed should b the t1 ship with the constitution at t4. Theres no temprol version of it atm so i will be very sad / disapointed if she doesent get the same teeatment as the other tos ship shown in the pack.
"Quietly prays for the constitution to get same treatment"
Sorry, your ideas don't trump what was shown on screen.
and you have yet to prove the blueprint themselves were not just an idea that never made it past prototyping even for the sake of your head canon that you consider them canon.
Earth Spacedock isn't a construction yard; that's Utopia Planitia's job. It's at best a repair yard, and primarily a docking station. So why would they even be there if they didn't exist?
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Yeah, I gotta weigh in on this one as well: When I first saw the announcement, I was thrilled. I love the TOS era and the TOS and Enterprise fans have been boned royally as their ships are useless at endgame. So if I had to reroll a character to play in the 23rd century, I'd be fine with that. But as mentioned, the connie is only T1 and "Temporal" doesn't appear in its name. I got the Exeter-class refit from the C-store and worked hard to make it viable for endgame (which it is, but it is challenging). I had hoped that with the introduction of t6 ships, the connie or at least a fleet or else an upgraded version of her would be elevated in status to a t4. But even in this 23rd century release she remains at the bottom.
Hopefully, if the connie gets a boost in later announcements, I'll jump onboard. But as it stands, it's not worth it to me to get a few titles and some nice looking ships, but still no connie improvements. I'll just keep flying my c-store connie refit in the 25th century, incurring rage throughout the galaxy.
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Ive downloaded the temporal agent starter pack but im confused about how to activate it? any advice would be greatly apprecieated
I've been thinking and don't think I saw anyone ask. Since this T6 ships are from the future where both klingons and romulans belong to the galactic empire will they come with a battlecloak?
We'll see, I guess. There would be a good reason for temporal ships to at least have some cloaking ability. But ultimately I think the reason that the Federation isn't making a habit out of equipping its ship with cloaking devices is more a political statement than a technological limitation. If they can manage to cloak a Galaxy Class Dreadnaught, they should be able to cloak almost everything in the Federation fleet. That they don't means they do not want to.
The good guys don't sneak around so they can strike from hiding.
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Except for the last 20 years it has been considered part of Official Canon by both Paramount and CBS.
(and has been republished Four times)
And until Roddenberry got annoyed with Mr. Joseph, he considered it canon also.
It's the very first OFFICIALLY SANCTIONED piece of Trek Merchandise.
It was used as reference material for "The Motion Picture", "The Wrath of Khan" and was even part of the Writers Handbook for Phase II.
To try and demean it now is just petty.
it never appeared on screen, it isnt canon. to call it canon is to call prelude to axanar canon as well.. twisting that logic there a bit huh?
Um - you realize that by that logic Star Trek Online is 100% non-canon, and all the STO ships are just 'fan made' as well, so again - I don't see what point you're actually trying to make with regard to ANYTHING that Cryptic (or CBS) decide can or can't be added to STO.
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Except for the last 20 years it has been considered part of Official Canon by both Paramount and CBS.
(and has been republished Four times)
And until Roddenberry got annoyed with Mr. Joseph, he considered it canon also.
It's the very first OFFICIALLY SANCTIONED piece of Trek Merchandise.
It was used as reference material for "The Motion Picture", "The Wrath of Khan" and was even part of the Writers Handbook for Phase II.
To try and demean it now is just petty.
it never appeared on screen, it isnt canon. to call it canon is to call prelude to axanar canon as well.. twisting that logic there a bit huh?
Um - you realize that by that logic Star Trek Online is 100% non-canon, and all the STO ships are just 'fan made' as well, so again - I don't see what point you're actually trying to make with regard to ANYTHING that Cryptic (or CBS) decide can or can't be added to STO.
STO IS 100% non-canon...there's never been any doubt there
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One of the devs answered this on Reddit. The Eternal and Ouroboros are cross-faction; everything else is Fed.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
I just have to ask: Where's Sulu??
The term used was: "faction agnostic". Which I take to mean an alien ship...unable to customize per faction.
Add: I found the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/4i0k7w/agents_of_yesterday_album_of_new_ships/d2u1x0n
I really hate the way Cryptic and PWE are so vague with their game news. They must know they are going to end up provoking all the faction angst in their player base when they leave things hanging like this.
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
the saladin/hermies-class blue prints is on a screen as one of the ships in dock. and the freedom's name and registry is also on a master list of ships in orbit
My character Tsin'xing
blueprints and names do not cover it, it has to be an onscreen ship appearance.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Sorry, your ideas don't trump what was shown on screen.
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Nah, blueprints and names that appear on screens do still cover it. Like the Wambundu. It's definitely a canon ship as it's a class that appears on readouts often in TNG. We just never saw a model for it.
and you have yet to prove the blueprint themselves were not just an idea that never made it past prototyping even for the sake of your head canon that you consider them canon.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
I honestly don't care.
But your wrong on this one and all the double-talk you want to spout, isn't going to change the facts.
You go ahead and continue to believe what you want, while the rest of us accept what has actually occurred.
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All the ships have Temporal in their names, so I guess those are ships upgraded to counter the temporal incursion threat. Because otherwise how would those ships be able to compete with technology centuries ahead ?
The first part of the story might just be about discovering what's happening, and at that point you still fly a vanilla TOS ship.
Yep, it was confirmed that the T6 Temporal ships were inspired by the Enterprise-J.
Especially true for the Theseus-Sagittarius-Paladin trio.
The design eventually had to start leaning in that direction.
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My character Tsin'xing
ignorance huh? thats none of my business. moving on.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
My character Tsin'xing
But the mandate doesn't make sense now. If you are doing an actual TOS era then the Connie should near the end of of the tree not at the front. She is a powerful ship. originally only 12 were planned. So having her T1 in the TOS era MAKES NO DARN SENSE!
Never Underestimate Your Own Ignorance.
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Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
"Quietly prays for the constitution to get same treatment"
Earth Spacedock isn't a construction yard; that's Utopia Planitia's job. It's at best a repair yard, and primarily a docking station. So why would they even be there if they didn't exist?
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
Hopefully, if the connie gets a boost in later announcements, I'll jump onboard. But as it stands, it's not worth it to me to get a few titles and some nice looking ships, but still no connie improvements. I'll just keep flying my c-store connie refit in the 25th century, incurring rage throughout the galaxy.
"An artist's growth depends upon accurate feedback." ~Data
> We're pleased to announce Agents of Yesterday, the third full expansion to Star Trek Online!
>
> Delve into the past this Summer 2016.
>
> ~Morrigan "LaughingTrendy"
Ive downloaded the temporal agent starter pack but im confused about how to activate it? any advice would be greatly apprecieated
The good guys don't sneak around so they can strike from hiding.
Wait until the expansion is released, not just the announcement for the expansion? You can spend the meantime reading the blogs more closely.
Um - you realize that by that logic Star Trek Online is 100% non-canon, and all the STO ships are just 'fan made' as well, so again - I don't see what point you're actually trying to make with regard to ANYTHING that Cryptic (or CBS) decide can or can't be added to STO.
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STO IS 100% non-canon...there's never been any doubt there
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