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[Season 8] Holodeck crashes on startup (Latest update: Pg. 319, post #3190)

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  • royalsovereignroyalsovereign Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Well, the more things change ...

    When the loading screen crash of 10/3/13 came along, my main computer at home was affected. My wife's laptop, which is barely able to creak along under the game load, runs it fine. Well, if I don't mind *really* long load times. ;) I expect my work machine will be able to run the game as well - we'll see tomorrow.

    Main home machine:

    Dell Precision 370 Workstation
    Win XP Professional, 64 bit, SP2
    Pentium 4 3.60 GHz, 3.25 GB RAM
    ATI Fire GL video card <--- I think this is part of the problem. This card is old, and the latest driver for it is really old as well. It is a great card for CAD, even tho it hasn't been cutting edge for at least 6-7 years...

    Crashes at 75% of loading bar. Error crash code 18897741

    Laptop:

    Toshiba Satellite L505
    Windows 7, all patches up to date
    AMD M860G, ATI Mobility Radeon 4100, 1.5 GB RAM

    Sigh, really frustrating that this issue has been noted on tribble really ever since it cropped up back on 10/3 and yet it still makes it into this release. Oh well, at least I can still somewhat play, sorta-ish.
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  • ricosakararicosakara Member Posts: 422 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    captinwh0 wrote: »
    +1 on that

    Make that +2
  • richardevegarichardevega Member Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    K well I just got an update Via twitter from @PWE_BranFlakes solution will have to come from our end -- it's a graphics related issue.

    Just realized my mistake by not putting the whole convo. Yes that's means that no matter what we do we as end users can't do nothing to fix this at the moment. The solution has to come from them via a patch so they can fix the graphical issue.
  • raventomoeraventomoe Member Posts: 723 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    K well I just got an update Via twitter from @PWE_BranFlakes "that a solution will have to come from their end - as it's a graphics related issue"

    Hmmm...well than I hope it comes tomorrow while I am working.
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  • mattyou444mattyou444 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    evilbsg62 wrote: »
    that "loading material files" is part of the DX 11 update an gfx updates the dev team did. try removing your game client from compatibility mode if you are running win 7 or 8 this may cause it. and put it in administrator mode lvl privileges if your running win 8.1 atm there is some issue with the firewall on x64

    if none of this works put your game in safe mode and take the client out of DX11 in the game settings if your running older OS es as this is proper DX11 now an will make older computers crash trying to run it

    gowing back some time an i think thir was a foram about it a serten KB............ windows update file that conflics with geforce graphix cards if the update is removed then it might fix it ive all so found that disabling ON demand patching helps stop crashing wils swiching maps
  • ricosakararicosakara Member Posts: 422 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    K well I just got an update Via twitter from @PWE_BranFlakes "that a solution will have to come from their end - as it's a graphics related issue"

    That's why STO crashes when loading Starfleet Academy? A graphics issue? Will it be fixed? = /
  • mattyou444mattyou444 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    wolfe2012 wrote: »
    Just to verify. Did you have a problem patching the game or the game loading. From what you wrote it appears as though your patch stuck at 95%, then deleting files and changing proxies allowed you to complete the patch and login. If that's the case it doesn't apply to the crash people are experiencing.

    The crashes are occurring after login, during the loading of the game. Some on the Cryptic splash screen with the progress bar, some on the LoR splash and others as/after they get to the character selection screen.

    Others in the thread have done full re-installs, sometimes even multiple times. When the launcher re-downloads the files, it's getting the exact same files every time. And users are experiencing down the the ticket number the exact same crash they had before re-installing. It's also not entirely machine specific as people have reported low-end, high-end and middle of the road systems crashing in the same places. On the other hand, many people are in the game. Those people downloaded the same files as the people who are crashing. So it's not something like a bad patch file. That more than likely would affect a much larger group of people.

    Nor would I say it's OS specific. I myself have 3 machines here, 2 running Windows XP SP3 and one Windows 7 Ultimate, they all crash trying to login. They all ran the game last night before the patch. The 2 Windows XP machines make it to the character screen to select a character, the Windows 7 machine never makes it past the Cryptic loading screen. Oh and the 2 XP machines are lower end than the Windows 7 machine. (Figure that one out)

    I honestly don't see how your fix would help anyone experiencing the crashes. It might however help anyone having issues obtaining the patch itself.

    I'm not trying to be condescending, I just think your entirely on the wrong track fishing for a fix for the crashes. (If what I gathered from your post is correct)

    Also just to add, I haven't been able to log onto Tribble either. I had/have the same crash/same error on Tribble that I'm getting on Holodeck.

    *EDIT - Well judging from later responses maybe that does work. I'll give it a try and eat crow if it does.


    yess agreed you are dowloading the same file but hears my thinking verfiy files onley cheks file names and not the size of the file if one file is corupeted (missing info) then thir is the glich this can happen to thos that have a bad dsl line or craptik servers have a lagg moment an somthink gets missing (loss of paket datta) ...

    the file will still down load and carry on patching an then it will not get noticed un till that part of the file is needed for the game .

    sorry to say you carnt just coppy and paste what is needed from trible servers or the like as thir will be a txt file or the like that has all the datta of the files that have been down loaded as a refer point so patching don't happen on next login

    least this is what ive lernt about online games an trying to cut down downloading times on 2 pc's by just copping over the files ...it dont work the dam things still patch even tho i put the files in thir my self just like the other version of the game

    -vince
  • ricosakararicosakara Member Posts: 422 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    My friend, and brandflakes and Tyro_heartnote told me for the "Error 36: A File was locked that could not be open for writing" problem, I have to run the game as administrator. I've done that, and it seems that the game patches fine now, and I get no crash when I load Starfleet Academy. But I'm still worried. what if this happens again? = /
  • zix74itaelitezix74itaelite Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    ticket n #131113-000047


    I'm unable to play after latest patch... good job...

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  • connectamabobconnectamabob Member Posts: 140 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    CTD transitioning from the launcher to the game for me. Basically it crashes the instant I click the "engage" button in the launcher. Ticket code is 26531885.

    Before the S8 update, I was experiencing the same CTD on the Cryptic load screen others were reporting here (even after the alleged 10/10 fix). Now I can't even launch.
  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,016 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Still not fixed, this is getting beyond a joke :mad:
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    • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,016 Arc User
      edited November 2013
      simple solution here, bring down the servers until you fix the problem, it's killing the game when we can't even get past character selection.
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      • captainiwwcaptainiww Member Posts: 28 Arc User
        edited November 2013
        i tried to start sto 5 times,

        with and without file checking.


        allways crash before charakter selection comes up.:mad:


        i am worry abaut that - because i dont can do my dailys
        and enjoy playing in the evening.


        hop it will wor soon


        IWW
      • twelveparsecstwelveparsecs Member Posts: 1 Arc User
        edited November 2013
        There should be no other priority other than to fix this error. This is going to drive away a fair amount of veterans of the game and is also costing people time on their limited subscriptions and Lobi rewards etc.

        I myself have not been hit by this bug and I do count myself very lucky! I am already raged with anger that this was known and reported for some time on Tribble, yet nothing has been done to resolve it until it went live.... that's just seriously poor management. I tell you one thing, if I had been hit with this - I would be looking for another game to fill my limited time. If this goes on for another 24 hours, I can see a very large number of long time players calling it a day and leaving for pastures new.

        All I can say is please try and stick around guys, I am quite surprised with how much I like the new content and I am enjoying it (even though there will always be people moaning about it)

        By no means am I a troll in disguise here either, I have my friend and fleet leader unable to connect to the game as well as other fleet members - which has ruined the shared experience of gaming together on band new content.

        I am mad as hell for you guys and I wouldn't be surprised if you're not going to take it anymore!

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      • patcrowpatcrow Member Posts: 89 Arc User
        edited November 2013
        I loaded the game after the late night maintance. Game seemed to work fine. So I stopped and restarted it. Now I have the same problems. Get to the main title page/character selection and the screen goes dark.

        Not sure what to do guys. Maybe it's time for me to play another game and give my money to them.

        :mad:

        ticket numbers 131112-000943 & 131112-001060
      • cmdrbensoncmdrbenson Member Posts: 97 Arc User
        edited November 2013
        even after the maintence I'm having the same problem I was earlier, I can't get past the screen that says cryptic the one with the loading bar at the bottom
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      • daywalkerhawkdaywalkerhawk Member Posts: 86 Arc User
        edited November 2013
        cmdrbenson wrote: »
        even after the maintence I'm having the same problem I was earlier, I can't get past the screen that says cryptic the one with the loading bar at the bottom

        Patchnotes statet that the Issue will not be resolved with the last Maintanance.
      • skooby365skooby365 Member Posts: 11 Arc User
        edited November 2013
        Anyone else worried that they haven't got a clue how to fix it?
      • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,016 Arc User
        edited November 2013
        Ticket number: 27271195

        Just bring the server down and fix the error
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        • dave18193dave18193 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
          edited November 2013
          Still no success when I try to load.

          Why devote a big chunk of developer time to patching in more nice-but-secondary fixes and polish when an apparently massive portion of your player base CANT ACCESS THE GAME.

          I dont normally mind bugs because we're all human and mistakes happen. Even on quite bad ones I don't get angry since its a F2P game.

          But for pitys sake, countless people (myself included) reported that Tribble was inaccessible and crashing over a month ago. Even as a silver player, Ive shelled out zen for purchases like an EC cap increase, BOFF slots and a Charal and have a right to be able use these purchases.

          Why was nothing done?

          Even this wouldn't be so bad if not for existing limited time events and rewards, notably the Dyson tribble, Q xp bonus and most crucially the Lobi FE rerun.

          Ive already lost 15 Lobi because of this debacle, not to speak of marks, XP and suchlike. If it isnt fixed by this evening I will have lost out on 30 lobi, which for me is the difference in being able to afford a tachyokinetic converter.


          I had been strongly considering purchasing a LTS whilst it was on sale. Unless something is done, and soon, they can kiss goodbye to that and all future purchases from this customer.
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        • aarons9aarons9 Member Posts: 961
          edited November 2013
          it seems i have this problem.
          windows xp.
          as soon as the loading bar goes all the way across, crash to desktop.
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        • mortuus2408mortuus2408 Member Posts: 81 Arc User
          edited November 2013
          Time to play Armada II (Fleet Operations Mod) to bridge the time :rolleyes:
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        • stevencherylstevencheryl Member Posts: 0 Arc User
          edited November 2013
          K well I just got an update Via twitter from @PWE_BranFlakes "that a solution will have to come from their end - as it's a graphics related issue"

          Why didn't you all tell me it was opposites day!
          How did everyone else know the actual quote had been altered? (Hence it's very meaning?)

          Actual twitter quotes:
          "@PWE_BranFlakes well i have been trying everything they been posting as possible solution on forum short of tossing my PC out the door ;(

          Brandon Felczer ‏@PWE_BranFlakes

          @revega solution will have to come from our end -- it's a graphics related issue."

          Sorry, had to look myself because op's "quote" implied the fix wasn't sto's problem.
          And looking at earlier parts of the twitter conversation, they were referring to the Crash of 08 Problem.

          (You can quote me on this, but please, don't change any of the words). hehe

          I can almost hear it now... Season 13... "Yep,..Just like the big "Crash of 08!"
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        • mraeambiimraeambii Member Posts: 1
          edited November 2013
          Same problem as everyone else. Crash as soon as character login screen begins loading. Tried Steam and ARC Same on both. Running XP. Error Code: 25316319.
        • richardevegarichardevega Member Posts: 234 Arc User
          edited November 2013
          Why didn't you all tell me it was opposites day!
          How did everyone else know the actual quote had been altered? (Hence it's very meaning?)

          Actual twitter quotes:
          "@PWE_BranFlakes well i have been trying everything they been posting as possible solution on forum short of tossing my PC out the door ;(

          Brandon Felczer ‏@PWE_BranFlakes

          @revega solution will have to come from our end -- it's a graphics related issue."

          Sorry, had to look myself because op's "quote" implied the fix wasn't sto's problem.
          And looking at earlier parts of the twitter conversation, they were referring to the Crash of 08 Problem.

          (You can quote me on this, but please, don't change any of the words). hehe

          I can almost hear it now... Season 13... "Yep,..Just like the big "Crash of 08!"

          Oops just went to re read my post and realized my mistake edited. But yes there is nothing we can do from our side at the moment. Solution has to come from a patch from them. Hope it comes soon tho.
        • axeldaxaxeldax Member Posts: 8 Arc User
          edited November 2013
          Hmmmm well they known about this for a bit over a month now but yes, I loaded Holodeck and crashed ;(

          My problem is a bit different than yours tho, I make it to the Black Cryptic loading screen and crash never make it to the second loading screen.

          And same ticket number as before from Tribble # 18897741

          Same problem
          Same Error code

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        • hunterguyver4hunterguyver4 Member Posts: 64 Arc User
          edited November 2013
          Ticket number: 14431686

          Even after the launch of Season 8 and the Emergency Maintenance last night when I just tried to log into STO at 6:51am I still get "Using ARC I keep getting this error when I try logging into STO

          Fatal Error: SerializeReadOpen: invalid signature on file ./Localdata/bin/Dynsequences.Bin"

          Am I going to have to uninstall then reinstall the game again just to get it to play? Because I really dont want to do that.
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        • finaltom5finaltom5 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
          edited November 2013
          mattyou444 wrote: »
          ok got a fix been stuk in a patch loop on finnal part of 225mb patch it keeped crashing at 95%

          my fix is this go in to game folder /star trek online / live < folder and
          delet .patch folder
          delet piggs folder
          delet prepatch folder

          then start the patch client then go in the the clients settings and you will see

          patching proxy set it to US
          then
          gameplay proxy st to US

          then start the patch DO NOT do the verify just patch it will then down load the full 12.6gb and the game will start

          good look ppl

          -vince

          I tried this and still nothing changed except it takes longer to load up to the LOR screen.
        • chron0vorechron0vore Member Posts: 1 Arc User
          edited November 2013
          I have had this problem ever sense the update for season 8 and i Have uninstalled an reinstalled the game and it still won't work!
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