102 pages later....Have they changed their minds yet.
Brandon is trying to have the devs create Mk XX level shields before touching the thread with a ten-foot-pole.
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I just read another thread that someone claimed that the Tour has been fixed - consider this a rumor at this point. Hmmm... Would that be a "Stealth Fix" ?
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I just read another thread that someone claimed that the Tour has been fixed - consider this a rumor at this point. Hmmm... Would that be a "Stealth Fix" ?
If they did indeed put it back to what it was before than great!!! The earning potential per hour was really no better than a sector patrol. Now if they would boost the earnings from foundry missions we would be all set.
Another patch Thursday and no mention of the Tour. I have not been able to get on at a time the that Tour has been on to test it for a possible "stealth fix."
It would be nice to hear some response from Cryptic on the possibility of a compromise.
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You never know what Devs may have up their sleeves. With all the new content they plan on releasing, there may be the need for speed again in one of them and possibly some new ec earning ways.
You never know what Devs may have up their sleeves. With all the new content they plan on releasing, there may be the need for speed again in one of them and possibly some new ec earning ways.
The devs destroyed that level of optimism for me a long long time ago. A new way of earning ec .... at least you made me laugh :P
They are really pushing their luck, alienating their playerbase... They keep up this kind of douchebaggary, they're going to hurt their profit margins. Pissing players off is bad for business.
On my fed character I finished the tour in 17 minutes. If my Romulan had the same stuff my fed did I am pretty sure he could make it in 15. This means that you can complete the tour 4 times (or 3.5 times if you are a bit slower)
MMOs have a very different economy than real life. For starters energy credits come into existence every minute and unless someone buys from an in game store they dont leave existence. This means that prices will always inflate (real countries would be in real trouble). Also our characters don't need to eat, and there is little need for energy credits....about the only need is to buy master keys. So it is possible that people will hord their items (no real cost associated with holding. In the real world the cost of storage would encourage someone to sell at a lower price. In STO there are no storage costs (if you leave the item on the exchange it won't take up inventory space.) Players will eventually earn enough to buy it (as energy credits come into existence). And someone will want that item bad enough to actually buy it. You should expect within an MMO that prices will increase. At this point the only thing that is going to get prices to fall is an increase in supply.
I just found about it, I was on Risa for a while. What is the idea of a 4 hours cool down on an event that last one hour? I don't know what Cryptic think sometime. I can understand that game sometime need rebalancing. But if you find that player do too much cash with it, cut it down to 25000 per section instead of 50000, with a clear explanation. Don't put a cool down on an event that last one hour. I have build a character/ship that is good for the Tour. I don't want to have to change character to do it. With this character, I know when to activate my Quantum Slipstream to be relatively optimal. I surely not the only one to have done this, seeing the number of posts. There is not a lot of thing that you can do for easy credits.
Season 7 make me nearly leave, because I had to start Omega Rep from crash to get the missing pieces from the kits. And more, the anti-borg ship weapons where not existing anymore. Everything now cost a lot of Dilitium, even stuff you get after completing the rep. LoR convince me to come back. I admit that Cryptic have done a pretty good job with it. But they introduced a lot of bugs also, some that are still not fixed. And there is always annoyance like a 4 hours cool down on a 1 hour event. I don't know, I sometime seem like that every time they do something good, they must do annoyance like that to counter it.
Wow that sucks and oh look the original message was removed because Big Brother didn't like it. Branflakes, I know it's your job to be the target and that's pretty bad but it really doesn't help when a 100+ page thread has it's first message deleted.
For the record I am against this 4hr cooldown. Tour was the only way to get good EC for an hours grind if you could be bothered and it was actually pretty fun seeing people blasting around the universe even when not participating.
Wow that sucks and oh look the original message was removed because Big Brother didn't like it. Branflakes, I know it's your job to be the target and that's pretty bad but it really doesn't help when a 100+ page thread has it's first message deleted.
Most of the 100 pages are posts by the same people with the same arguments (both for and against).
For the record I am against this 4hr cooldown. Tour was the only way to get good EC for an hours grind if you could be bothered and it was actually pretty fun seeing people blasting around the universe even when not participating.
And obviously, you're not one of those that can be bothered to do it if you are only noticing now a whole month after the changes were made.
And there's a saying somewhere in here about a dead horse.
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Haven't bothered with the tour since they "fixed" it. I wonder what the stats are on whether more or fewer people are playing it now.
Also still waiting for prices to drop, as promised, on the exchange. Ha.
People still run it, but far fewer than used to. I do every now and then and pretend the devs don't hate me lol. But I don't bother with rp or di - doesn't matter anymore - and hence the spirit of a "race" is totally dead. Only reason to run it now is to farm a small amount of ec - yes FARM - exactly the thing I'm sure the devs didn't want.
Sarcasm on.....
I bet this has been great for the sale of racing uniforms in the Zen store....
Sarcasm off.....
Not played since the Nerf bat got swung.....only matter of time till they
NERF STFS WITH A 4 HOUR COOLDOWN SO WE CANT EXPLOIT the marks events..
Nah.
You see the nerf hammer that was swung at Tour is a truly "special" hammer.
This hammer sits in a vault deep in the bowels of Cryptic hq and is guarded by dragons and trolls. When it is needed, Branflakes goes to the vault wearing only a loinclothe showing off his extremely ripped and muscular body and has a sword strapped to his back named "Money". When the hammer is removed, it is said that the faint hum of angels and harps can be heard off in the distance and the Earth shudders beneath everyone's feet.
The hammer is then taken by Branflakes to his master, dStahl, in the highest tower of Cryptic hq. There, in his flowing dark purple robes, dStahl and Branflakes in his loinclothe must dance the Harlem shake so that the mood may be set for the use of this glorious hammer.
After the Shake, the two masters of their world must carefully consider their use of such a magnificent example of blacksmithing. You see, the hammer's use must catch all by surprise. It's use must only apply to the most innocent and harmless subjects of their realm. It's use should warrant songs for 40,000 nights and 1,000 posts. And above all else, it's use must be epic overkill. Finally, to keep the hordes of their minions appeased, anything at which the hammer is swung must be dragged through the mud, spit upon, and called vile names like "exploit". It is only then that dStahl may raise the hammer, with the sun shining brightly behind him highlighting his mighty outline, and bring it down in one final thunderous crushing blow.
After its use, Branflakes reverently carries the hammer back to its cold dark resting place, where it silently waits to summoned again. Branflakes then retreats to his own abode forgetting all that just happened.
Haven't bothered with the tour since they "fixed" it. I wonder what the stats are on whether more or fewer people are playing it now.
Also still waiting for prices to drop, as promised, on the exchange. Ha.
AND, as I predicted, prices have actually risen bringing about a black market to obtain the same items at reasonable prices as other players EXPLOIT the needs of newer STO members through the exchange and call it 'fair value'....
nice job nerfing the one event I truly enjoyed and worked towards earning more effective means of accomplishing the task, which for at least 18 months (longer than I have been onboard) was an effective means of earning sufficient EC without having to be logged in 24/7 grinding away for mere pittance. You do realize that a vast majority of your user base have to earn a living and spend time with family, leaving precious little time for your mmo grindfests, do you not?
AND, as I predicted, prices have actually risen bringing about a black market to obtain the same items at reasonable prices as other players EXPLOIT the needs of newer STO members through the exchange and call it 'fair value'....
nice job nerfing the one event I truly enjoyed and worked towards earning more effective means of accomplishing the task, which for at least 18 months (longer than I have been onboard) was an effective means of earning sufficient EC without having to be logged in 24/7 grinding away for mere pittance. You do realize that a vast majority of your user base have to earn a living and spend time with family, leaving precious little time for your mmo grindfests, do you not?
Odds are if prices are to ever fall it will take months, unfortunately with new releases on boxes that will stifle it even longer. I predicted before hand that prices wouldn't be stagnate or become inflated as people are making less EC's for the given time played.
You see the nerf hammer that was swung at Tour is a truly "special" hammer.
This hammer sits in a vault deep in the bowels of Cryptic hq and is guarded by dragons and trolls. When it is needed, Branflakes goes to the vault wearing only a loinclothe showing off his extremely ripped and muscular body and has a sword strapped to his back named "Money". When the hammer is removed, it is said that the faint hum of angels and harps can be heard off in the distance and the Earth shudders beneath everyone's feet.
The hammer is then taken by Branflakes to his master, dStahl, in the highest tower of Cryptic hq. There, in his flowing dark purple robes, dStahl and Branflakes in his loinclothe must dance the Harlem shake so that the mood may be set for the use of this glorious hammer.
After the Shake, the two masters of their world must carefully consider their use of such a magnificent example of blacksmithing. You see, the hammer's use must catch all by surprise. It's use must only apply to the most innocent and harmless subjects of their realm. It's use should warrant songs for 40,000 nights and 1,000 posts. And above all else, it's use must be epic overkill. Finally, to keep the hordes of their minions appeased, anything at which the hammer is swung must be dragged through the mud, spit upon, and called vile names like "exploit". It is only then that dStahl may raise the hammer, with the sun shining brightly behind him highlighting his mighty outline, and bring it down in one final thunderous crushing blow.
After its use, Branflakes reverently carries the hammer back to its cold dark resting place, where it silently waits to summoned again. Branflakes then retreats to his own abode forgetting all that just happened.
Threadwinner.
I disagree with the proposition that the cooldown somehow ruins the economy... but this post is poetry. The only reason to keep this thread open is to sing the praises of the poster and his wordsmithing.
We can all thank the whiners who kept harping on about exploit this and exploit that. This in turn gave Cryptic carte blanche to nerf the living hell out of it. You showed them! You QQing bastages.:D
I disagree with the proposition that the cooldown somehow ruins the economy... but this post is poetry. The only reason to keep this thread open is to sing the praises of the poster and his wordsmithing.
I concur with the praise, but the cooldown is still a nerf.
Odds are if prices are to ever fall it will take months, unfortunately with new releases on boxes that will stifle it even longer. I predicted before hand that prices wouldn't be stagnate or become inflated as people are making less EC's for the given time played.
Rainmaking is always more of an art than a science, isn't it?
You see the nerf hammer that was swung at Tour is a truly "special" hammer.
This hammer sits in a vault deep in the bowels of Cryptic hq and is guarded by dragons and trolls. When it is needed, Branflakes goes to the vault wearing only a loinclothe showing off his extremely ripped and muscular body and has a sword strapped to his back named "Money". When the hammer is removed, it is said that the faint hum of angels and harps can be heard off in the distance and the Earth shudders beneath everyone's feet.
The hammer is then taken by Branflakes to his master, dStahl, in the highest tower of Cryptic hq. There, in his flowing dark purple robes, dStahl and Branflakes in his loinclothe must dance the Harlem shake so that the mood may be set for the use of this glorious hammer.
After the Shake, the two masters of their world must carefully consider their use of such a magnificent example of blacksmithing. You see, the hammer's use must catch all by surprise. It's use must only apply to the most innocent and harmless subjects of their realm. It's use should warrant songs for 40,000 nights and 1,000 posts. And above all else, it's use must be epic overkill. Finally, to keep the hordes of their minions appeased, anything at which the hammer is swung must be dragged through the mud, spit upon, and called vile names like "exploit". It is only then that dStahl may raise the hammer, with the sun shining brightly behind him highlighting his mighty outline, and bring it down in one final thunderous crushing blow.
After its use, Branflakes reverently carries the hammer back to its cold dark resting place, where it silently waits to summoned again. Branflakes then retreats to his own abode forgetting all that just happened)) End
Threadwinner...
how can we let this happened?..a one sided solution with no input whatsoever from the community as opposed to the whiners from Foundry or PVP who only have threads less than 10 pages long or so yet whatever they whined about gets resolved really quickly.
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Brandon is trying to have the devs create Mk XX level shields before touching the thread with a ten-foot-pole.
SCE ADVISORY NOTICE: Improper Impulse Engine maintenance can result in REAR THRUSTER LEAKAGE. ALWAYS have your work inspected by another qualified officer.
SCE ADVISORY NOTICE: Improper Impulse Engine maintenance can result in REAR THRUSTER LEAKAGE. ALWAYS have your work inspected by another qualified officer.
If they did indeed put it back to what it was before than great!!! The earning potential per hour was really no better than a sector patrol. Now if they would boost the earnings from foundry missions we would be all set.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
It would be nice to hear some response from Cryptic on the possibility of a compromise.
SCE ADVISORY NOTICE: Improper Impulse Engine maintenance can result in REAR THRUSTER LEAKAGE. ALWAYS have your work inspected by another qualified officer.
The devs destroyed that level of optimism for me a long long time ago. A new way of earning ec .... at least you made me laugh :P
No change to the tour, still nerfed:(
How dumb can these people get?
MMOs have a very different economy than real life. For starters energy credits come into existence every minute and unless someone buys from an in game store they dont leave existence. This means that prices will always inflate (real countries would be in real trouble). Also our characters don't need to eat, and there is little need for energy credits....about the only need is to buy master keys. So it is possible that people will hord their items (no real cost associated with holding. In the real world the cost of storage would encourage someone to sell at a lower price. In STO there are no storage costs (if you leave the item on the exchange it won't take up inventory space.) Players will eventually earn enough to buy it (as energy credits come into existence). And someone will want that item bad enough to actually buy it. You should expect within an MMO that prices will increase. At this point the only thing that is going to get prices to fall is an increase in supply.
Season 7 make me nearly leave, because I had to start Omega Rep from crash to get the missing pieces from the kits. And more, the anti-borg ship weapons where not existing anymore. Everything now cost a lot of Dilitium, even stuff you get after completing the rep. LoR convince me to come back. I admit that Cryptic have done a pretty good job with it. But they introduced a lot of bugs also, some that are still not fixed. And there is always annoyance like a 4 hours cool down on a 1 hour event. I don't know, I sometime seem like that every time they do something good, they must do annoyance like that to counter it.
For the record I am against this 4hr cooldown. Tour was the only way to get good EC for an hours grind if you could be bothered and it was actually pretty fun seeing people blasting around the universe even when not participating.
It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.
Has damage got out of control?
This is the last thing I will post.
Hope we will get the old tour back with a fix for that "exploit" that some people have used to shorten the tour.
Most of the 100 pages are posts by the same people with the same arguments (both for and against).
And obviously, you're not one of those that can be bothered to do it if you are only noticing now a whole month after the changes were made.
And there's a saying somewhere in here about a dead horse.
Come join the 44th Fleet.
startrek.44thfleet.com[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Also still waiting for prices to drop, as promised, on the exchange. Ha.
Not played since the Nerf bat got swung.....only matter of time till they
NERF STFS WITH A 4 HOUR COOLDOWN SO WE CANT EXPLOIT the marks events..
People still run it, but far fewer than used to. I do every now and then and pretend the devs don't hate me lol. But I don't bother with rp or di - doesn't matter anymore - and hence the spirit of a "race" is totally dead. Only reason to run it now is to farm a small amount of ec - yes FARM - exactly the thing I'm sure the devs didn't want.
Sarcasm on.....
I bet this has been great for the sale of racing uniforms in the Zen store....
Sarcasm off.....
Please don't give them any more ideas.
Nah.
You see the nerf hammer that was swung at Tour is a truly "special" hammer.
This hammer sits in a vault deep in the bowels of Cryptic hq and is guarded by dragons and trolls. When it is needed, Branflakes goes to the vault wearing only a loinclothe showing off his extremely ripped and muscular body and has a sword strapped to his back named "Money". When the hammer is removed, it is said that the faint hum of angels and harps can be heard off in the distance and the Earth shudders beneath everyone's feet.
The hammer is then taken by Branflakes to his master, dStahl, in the highest tower of Cryptic hq. There, in his flowing dark purple robes, dStahl and Branflakes in his loinclothe must dance the Harlem shake so that the mood may be set for the use of this glorious hammer.
After the Shake, the two masters of their world must carefully consider their use of such a magnificent example of blacksmithing. You see, the hammer's use must catch all by surprise. It's use must only apply to the most innocent and harmless subjects of their realm. It's use should warrant songs for 40,000 nights and 1,000 posts. And above all else, it's use must be epic overkill. Finally, to keep the hordes of their minions appeased, anything at which the hammer is swung must be dragged through the mud, spit upon, and called vile names like "exploit". It is only then that dStahl may raise the hammer, with the sun shining brightly behind him highlighting his mighty outline, and bring it down in one final thunderous crushing blow.
After its use, Branflakes reverently carries the hammer back to its cold dark resting place, where it silently waits to summoned again. Branflakes then retreats to his own abode forgetting all that just happened.
And yet here you are. . . :P
AND, as I predicted, prices have actually risen bringing about a black market to obtain the same items at reasonable prices as other players EXPLOIT the needs of newer STO members through the exchange and call it 'fair value'....
nice job nerfing the one event I truly enjoyed and worked towards earning more effective means of accomplishing the task, which for at least 18 months (longer than I have been onboard) was an effective means of earning sufficient EC without having to be logged in 24/7 grinding away for mere pittance. You do realize that a vast majority of your user base have to earn a living and spend time with family, leaving precious little time for your mmo grindfests, do you not?
Odds are if prices are to ever fall it will take months, unfortunately with new releases on boxes that will stifle it even longer. I predicted before hand that prices wouldn't be stagnate or become inflated as people are making less EC's for the given time played.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Threadwinner.
I disagree with the proposition that the cooldown somehow ruins the economy... but this post is poetry. The only reason to keep this thread open is to sing the praises of the poster and his wordsmithing.
Officially Nerfed In Early 2410
I concur with the praise, but the cooldown is still a nerf.
Rainmaking is always more of an art than a science, isn't it?
Nah.
You see the nerf hammer that was swung at Tour is a truly "special" hammer.
This hammer sits in a vault deep in the bowels of Cryptic hq and is guarded by dragons and trolls. When it is needed, Branflakes goes to the vault wearing only a loinclothe showing off his extremely ripped and muscular body and has a sword strapped to his back named "Money". When the hammer is removed, it is said that the faint hum of angels and harps can be heard off in the distance and the Earth shudders beneath everyone's feet.
The hammer is then taken by Branflakes to his master, dStahl, in the highest tower of Cryptic hq. There, in his flowing dark purple robes, dStahl and Branflakes in his loinclothe must dance the Harlem shake so that the mood may be set for the use of this glorious hammer.
After the Shake, the two masters of their world must carefully consider their use of such a magnificent example of blacksmithing. You see, the hammer's use must catch all by surprise. It's use must only apply to the most innocent and harmless subjects of their realm. It's use should warrant songs for 40,000 nights and 1,000 posts. And above all else, it's use must be epic overkill. Finally, to keep the hordes of their minions appeased, anything at which the hammer is swung must be dragged through the mud, spit upon, and called vile names like "exploit". It is only then that dStahl may raise the hammer, with the sun shining brightly behind him highlighting his mighty outline, and bring it down in one final thunderous crushing blow.
After its use, Branflakes reverently carries the hammer back to its cold dark resting place, where it silently waits to summoned again. Branflakes then retreats to his own abode forgetting all that just happened)) End
Threadwinner...
how can we let this happened?..a one sided solution with no input whatsoever from the community as opposed to the whiners from Foundry or PVP who only have threads less than 10 pages long or so yet whatever they whined about gets resolved really quickly.
I know it's not the most civilized thing to say, but it's true, and someone has to say it.
Please go away.