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  • ferdzso0ferdzso0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    linyive wrote: »
    PublicEliteSTF is a great channel filled with a lot of friendly and helpful people.

    LOLOLOL. sarcasm for the winz


    here is a story of a kind of failiure:

    so I warp into ISE with my test aux dhc vesta (it still only deals 9k dps, so I am kinda worried about pugs), I see your avg ships.
    we go for the first cube on the left, and I see an Ody (what else?) throwing grav wells and torps and turretshots (checked combatlog in the end, he only had a quantum mine, a plasma torp, and turrets...) at one of the gens. I am terrified. with your avg pug dps, you cant handle an early blow. we killed a cube, and I got one gen down to 20 before ody hero managed to fight down the gen (actually he had 2k dps, which is surprisingly barely below the avg I have seen O.o), I am still worried, but we managed to take down the side, and noticed there is a tac defiant in the match with (in the end checked) 9k dps. with that help, the game was a breeze, I knew I could blow early on the next group (didnt want to, but in the end I didnt rly care, knowing I had helped, so I kinda let my pets do whatever)

    I was rly thinking on writing that Ody, not to do that again, but if I did, my conscience would also force me to tell him, how bad his dps was, which in the end might have resulted him changing to better dps, not changing his tactics, making other games even worse ^^

    10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
  • earlnyghthawkearlnyghthawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    My worst? Don't know, it's kind of a tie between two.

    1>Popping into an Infected Space Elite, only to find: only 2 team members by myself there, the optional already gone. And as soon as I got into combat range, the other two tuck tail and warp out. So I struggle on solo, to at least get some practice. Only thing that saved it, was 2 more people that popped in, with fairly high damage capability, and that went balls-out trying to get this done. I told those two a hearty "Thank you", for really going above & beyond.

    2:This one was in Khitomer Space Elite. Get about a third of the way through. As soon as we're a third of the way in, the opposite side goofs, and lets a probe through. While not happy, mistakes DO happen. But then I find out, two people run out 50km+ away from anything being close to them, and refuse to pitch in anymore & start leeching. Finally got one of them to leave, so at least there was a chance that they'd be replaced (which did happen towards the start of the Donatra fight), and when I posted in chat, that I reported the other now-leecher, he finally attacked Donatra. But it still disgusts me that people do this leeching TRIBBLE, whether it's from the start, or they use some excuse not to pitch in to help. :mad::mad::mad::mad:
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  • greendragon527greendragon527 Member Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    So just came out of an stf with some kid in a kumari. First transformer someone blew a gen early, guy yells in all caps that if the op fails he's gonna sit there and stew. Happened on the second one, atrox blew the gen and i was too late with my GW and TBR to stop the sphere this time ( i was in a voquv btw). Died a couple times and he's flying around a few k off laughing at how we should be able to do this with 4 and he's punishing us so we will learn. I don't like it either but it's 15 marks, if he pitched in n helped we could have been done a much longer time ago. After trying to get him to grow up with some back n forth he finally does. I tell him thanks for showing some maturity and he threatens to "go back to [his] corner", (-.-).
    Think he really needed the time out.
  • sjokruhlicasjokruhlica Member Posts: 434 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Last night. Khitomer Space elite. I'm on my fed tac in a JHAS. There's a tac in a Galaxy-X, and three others. Couldn't tell you what they were flying.

    We pop the initial cube. Gal-X and I go right, the other 3 left. I'm taking down the transformer and cube, and Gal-X is on probes. I take out the first cube and transformer, and I see the "fail" indicator go off. The three on the other side are all trying to kill their cube, and they're about 10 km on the other side of their gate. So by the time I get over there to kill their cube, 4 probes got through. Went back right, and took care of the other cube/transformer. Now we're up to 8 probes through, because the 3 Stooges have chased their second cube about 10 km on the other side of their gate.. again. Gal-X flies over to take care the last 2 probes about to go through, while I stay right and and alternate between the gate and probes. Five minutes and a dozen respawns alter, Gal-X swoops in, kills the cube, and gets back in time to stop the probes.

    We finally get the gates down, and Donatra spawns. The Three Amigos apparently don't comprehend the meaning of the green lines, because they all sit in front of Donatra and eat a full serving of thalaron. After what seems to another dozen respawns on their part, Donatra goes down. I comment something of the effect of "guys, I'm not trying to be an TRIBBLE$hole, but you three are just not ready for elites." No response.

    Eh, I got my dil and 11 bnp's, but it took roughly 45 minutes.
  • sjameshsjamesh Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I was doing Khitomer in Stasis-not even the elite version-and I got grouped with four Germans. Only one of them even spoke basic English. They all obviously had NO idea what they were doing. After close to 45 minutes, we managed to finish-or I should say I finished it. Afterward the one who spoke a little English was whining at me for how long it took to complete it. I "politely" pointed out all of them had NO idea what they were doing. What can you do though? Life goes on...
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  • incursis01incursis01 Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    For some reason everytime I play Infected the Conduit Elite no one uses the 10% rule, they just go after generators till 0%. Every single time I play now, no one apparently applies it.

    It was never this bad before.
  • ferdzso0ferdzso0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    did one now. dunno how it ended

    I warp in, I see a sci ship, and I awe. its like a unicorn, you rarely see one. a kumari two rommie ships and my vesta.

    now the dps was low. I mean low. the highest dps of my teammates was ofc the kumari with a wopping 3k dps (srsly, that ship is OP as hell, it clearly needs a nerf), the rest were 1,4k-1,8k.

    well brilliant, atleast I can have some fun carrying the team, I always liked to do that (no jk). now the problem is, that they are clearly unaware of the underlying mechanics. one blew a gen early (meaning I got it down for him to 10, and while I got another one down to 10, he blew it, leaving another one at 50). this shouldnt be a problem. HOWEVER, brilliant players engage the spheres. why? because you can hold them with grav well before they reach... owait, you cant, since EPTE change. this would actually do the opposite, and make them FASTER

    no matter, I threw everything at the transformer, and at the last second, we (as in 3 of us, because 2 were busy "holding up" the spheres). now going to the next transformer, after a long bit of sphere hunting, I got two down to 10, and ofc someone blows early, while we have one at 50 and one at 100. no probs, we gonna solve....

    server not responding. well thats what you get. I clicked safe log in on the loading screen, but it wasnt my day, and I got a 1 hour ban (its rly random, whether you get a ban or not for server instability).

    10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
  • marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Khitomer in Stasis (Elite)

    From the start I knew it was not going to be a good run. 2 tactical character with multiple injuries.

    The 1 of them ran forward starting the optional objective countdown wile their was 1 person still loading. Well the 2 tactical character with injuries died withing second of Borg seeing them.

    After that I left because I was not going to play a mission with a doomed optional and 2 tactical characters with multiple injuries and cant survive more then a few seconds of contact with the Borg.
  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    What seems to be a running gag now in the two, new Nukara Ground queues is to push buttons and start the encounter before the whole team is assembled.
  • twoofnine1twoofnine1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    For some reason everytime I play Infected the Conduit Elite no one uses the 10% rule, they just go after generators till 0%. Every single time I play now, no one apparently applies it.

    It was never this bad before.


    due to the overwhelming amount of new players from lor
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  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    twoofnine1 wrote: »
    due to the overwhelming amount of new players from lor

    or due to the fact that most groups will just throw out so much damage that it doesn't matter. A lot of PuGs have one or two generators still at 50%+ when the first one blows, but still manage to get the optional (even the the EPTE changes), because you can burn those generators down within a few seconds with 3-4 peope focusing them.

    It only gets problematic/close when someone goes for a generator before the cube is down.
  • ferdzso0ferdzso0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    or due to the fact that most groups will just throw out so much damage that it doesn't matter. A lot of PuGs have one or two generators still at 50%+ when the first one blows, but still manage to get the optional (even the the EPTE changes), because you can burn those generators down within a few seconds with 3-4 peope focusing them.

    It only gets problematic/close when someone goes for a generator before the cube is down.

    power creep. now ppl are usually above 1 even 2k DPS O.o so they can handle such things


    had a great pug yesterday tho:

    no optional lost or anything, but we were in there 5 mins longer than we should have, because of... guess. no its not an early gen blow. yes, your second guess is right, an idiot with TBR.

    both times the spheres came out of the gate, he instantly went for them, and TBR'd them all over the place, while aggroing the cube as well. so basically we had to catch the damned spheres one buy one, from every little bit of the map, and both times, he mananged to get a sphere under the starbase, so it took a one minute manouver to get a position, where you could shoot at them...

    10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,462 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    What seems to be a running gag now in the two, new Nukara Ground queues is to push buttons and start the encounter before the whole team is assembled.

    That is a thorn in my side for the last few days.

    Maybe it's because these missions have only recently been added to the PVE queue, but too many players enter without a clue how to do the missions.

    Some even show up without EVA suit or when they enter with suit they forget to activate it.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • loukocloukoc Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Back in pre-LOR Nukara hards were enjoyable for me. Since they were only accessed on Nukara mostly Nukara veterans did them so you had a squad of 6+ people breeze through them. Now I think the easy way of adding them into the queue list is disastrous.

    Just to be on topic, my worst STF experience? Any time I tried to do Vault Shuttle Event. It's the only available STF that I have never completed, which bugs me.
  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Technically, Vault Shuttle Event is a PVE event, not a Special Task Force (Borg only).

    But I hear ya. Vault Shuttle is one of the hardest missions to complete, if you have a PUG. If people have no clue how to do the mission, you can fail even the first room simply by running out of time.

    Although you can't force people on your team to "be better", you can help by having an efficient build for taking out enemies quickly. I recommend equipping a Dual Beam Bank and having Beam Overload ready. This often has the effect of one-shot killing enemies, and dealing great damage to emplacements (turrets and tractor emitters).

    Tractor Beam ability is a MUST. If you don't use it, you will never be able to hold your target in one place to blast him with your Beam Overload.

    The Breen Cluster Torpedo is another good weapon to use, since it can effectively destroy a single target in one shot. BoPs are often killed in one shot, due to a Beam Overload and follow-up Breen Cluster Torpedo into the hull. Otherwise, I suppose a quantum torpedo launcher or a Kinetic Cutting Beam would do nicely in this spot - although the shields on your target will have to be down, in order to deal significant damage.

    Weapons Battery, joined with a "Maintenance Engineer" Duty Officer, will do wonders for your damage with Beam Overload (and even better, the Breen torpedo).

    I hope this helps. Although this doesn't help your team, it will help you achieve the objectives quicker, like clearing out turrets and BoPs around the generators in the second room. No sense flying around if you have a lousy shuttle build; a knowledgeable shuttle pilot with a good shuttle build can sometimes turn around the course of a mission.
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,462 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    loukoc wrote: »
    Back in pre-LOR Nukara hards were enjoyable for me. Since they were only accessed on Nukara mostly Nukara veterans did them so you had a squad of 6+ people breeze through them. Now I think the easy way of adding them into the queue list is disastrous.

    Just to be on topic, my worst STF experience? Any time I tried to do Vault Shuttle Event. It's the only available STF that I have never completed, which bugs me.

    It's convenient to get teams together, but the quality of said teams is worrisome.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • loukocloukoc Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    *snip*

    I just call any queue an STF, it may be intended to be used for Borg-only but since the full name is Special Task Force it can be any force that does a special task.

    I'll admit, it has been a while since I have done that and my fighter is a lot better now but every time I'm thinking of doing it I remember all the times I have done it and failed. Most of the time we would get to the final room, reactor would fire on Obisek, Obisek would cloak, repair and that would be repeated until we ran out of time.
  • ssargonssargon Member Posts: 347 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    questerius wrote: »
    ...Some even show up without EVA suit or when they enter with suit they forget to activate it.

    To be fair this, particularly the second point, could just as easily be a result of queuing from space as it could be stupidity.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,462 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ssargon wrote: »
    To be fair this, particularly the second point, could just as easily be a result of queuing from space as it could be stupidity.

    You beam in into a sheltered environment and putting on an EVA + activating it takes less than 5 seconds. Providing they played through the episodes, especially "Boldly they rode" everyone should be intimately familiar with the EVA suit when they start playing STF.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • loukocloukoc Member Posts: 1,189 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Starbase Incursion earlier:

    We all beam in
    Some moron states "he'll take top left"
    No-one else replies (and I don't care about this 'location' businss anyway)
    He calls us an "idiot team" and ragequits.

    All this before the mission had even started.

    :rolleyes:

    *is amazed*

    I have never heard of such a quick ragequit. And on SBI! Most ground ragequits happen in IGN and IGE!

    Also, I am proud to say that my ship has a fail setup and I have not instilled any ragequits!
  • guilli88guilli88 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Not worst but comes close:

    Two people were hugging the CE and kept eating the shards. This guy who I caplock about, died dozens of times, he's the only one of my team that did repair tho...

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  • davidshkydavidshky Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    guilli88 wrote: »
    Not worst but comes close:

    Two people were hugging the CE and kept eating the shards. This guy who I caplock about, died dozens of times, he's the only one of my team that did repair tho...

    http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/5494/axqx.jpg

    Reminds me of a CE I ran recently where the entity managed to get around 200-250 of the recrystalization buff, giving it a 400-500% damage bonus. The second you got in range/decloaked you would be at 50% hull. Everyone left that CE with broken ships.

    In the end I actually flew close to the damn thing on purpose in hopes that my ship explosion would cause some damage since I didn't have much time to do so with my weapons.
  • hotelkatzhotelkatz Member Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I just left a ISE that turned hopeless fast.

    Someone decided to blow up a generator before the others were even close to half, then the %^$@# decided to go off to the side and watch.

    Then another person refused to even try to help, deciding instead to say, 'you guys are gonna fail, it's pointless to even try'.

    I quit when it seemed the other two's strategy was 'die valiantly.'

    Funny thing was, the first two guys were Roms and the latter two were feds.
  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Reminds me of a CE I ran recently where the entity managed to get around 200-250 of the recrystalization buff, giving it a 400-500% damage bonus.

    That's why I never enter the CE without a Tachyon Beam anymore. Just a single player with TB or using a single, rare Delta Flyer Hangar can keep the stacks close to 0, even if there are idiots around who deliberately try to sabotage.
  • ferdzso0ferdzso0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ISE:

    its not the worst again, not even a failed opt, but I dont rly have better ones, but as many read these to learn what not to do, might be helpful somehow O.o

    so the game goes fairly well with the first transformer gun. I fixed an issue with autotargeting my pets, I am quite happy. the spheres die a bit slow tho. none the less, last dies, I am kinda low on health, as for the last 2 mins the gate was trying to kill me, while I hunted two spheres clipped into it. I see, that a star cruiser is already pounding on one of the gens, while the cube is up. fortunately I knew we had time, as he was shooting rainbow DBBs, and no good comes out of that from a star cruiser (srsly, you rarely see those)

    so I decide, to basically bounce the cube's heavy torps back at him, to help the thing go down faster. the problem is, as I mentioned, I was low on health to begin with, from a two minute fight with the gate. well, no other option, I go in, fortunately the cube crits, its down to low pct, and I can hit ramming speed, before the plasma burn kills me, bringing it down with me. at this point, star cruiser finishes, I spawn, and go back, start working on the rest.

    the team had decent dps (well, all had 3k dps in the end, so not decent, but I was lucky to not have any more baddies :)), and by the time I got there, only 1 gen was 100, and the other 50. someone got a grav well out, I doubt it helped, but in the end, we did manage to keep the opt, and win the game.

    I wrote on the guy after the match, but he didnt respond, so I will never know if he was a troll, or just bad

    on the plus side, I got a rly good parse for my aux dhc vesta :)

    10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,007 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    guilli88 wrote: »
    Not worst but comes close:

    Two people were hugging the CE and kept eating the shards. This guy who I caplock about, died dozens of times, he's the only one of my team that did repair tho...

    http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/5494/axqx.jpg

    That's just pathetic, why people don't stock up on repair parts is beyond me.
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    • linyivelinyive Member Posts: 1,086 Arc User
      edited June 2013
      That's just pathetic, why people don't stock up on repair parts is beyond me.
      Sometimes it happens by accident. If a player is use to playing ground missions, such as myself, the majority of the items she or he will have are regens. I have been pulled into elite space stfs spontaneously. I do not always pay attention. When I do enter an elite space mission unprepared, I know well enough to keep my distance from enemy npcs. If you know how an stf mission works, you can work through them with light resources. Its just a matter of experience.
    • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,007 Arc User
      edited June 2013
      I always tend to maintain a good stock of 20 of each repair part, you never know when you need them.
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      • jake81499jake81499 Member Posts: 249 Arc User
        edited June 2013
        That's just pathetic, why people don't stock up on repair parts is beyond me.

        They are called instant admirals. They flew through the ranks and made admiral in about a week. Very common. They generally have no idea how to play the game and no interest in learning. :eek:
      • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,007 Arc User
        edited June 2013
        jake81499 wrote: »
        They are called instant admirals. They flew through the ranks and made admiral in about a week. Very common. They generally have no idea how to play the game and no interest in learning. :eek:

        As long as there is a core of professional players, there is still hope, the insta admirals need to realize that the more injuries you have, the more debuffs you have, in effect by not stocking up on repair parts, they are nerfing themselves:eek:
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