That seems to be a common misconception - probably due to how some of the gaming sites seem to be advertising LoR. All the Rom content is free for everyone. The Packs are just C-Store bundles sold at a discount for those who think they're going to be buying them eventually.
and thuss the basis of my allbeit micro ragefest i fell for that misconcepction thank you for answering my question youve cleared up my curiousness i revoke my "i quit" rant now haveing been enlightened
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In case i havent already asked the question here...
Devs,
I and several others would greatly appreciate it if the Legacy Packs could be made available for purchase via Steam. Some of us simply dont have the neccessary cards with which to buy the packs online but over time we have been able to get steam money through cash.
You would sell a lot more Legacy packs as well as make plenty of your loyal fans extremely excited if you would consider making Steam a viable payment offer.
Sorry if this has been asked before but I did not happen to see it.
Have they announced a break down of how much zen each of the different items in the legacy pack would cost after launch?
I understand the big pack says there's a savings of $57 (unless my math/memory has failed me :P ), but I don't want all the items in pack and would like to know if it would behoove me to get the things I do want a la carte.
Sorry if this has been asked before but I did not happen to see it.
Have they announced a break down of how much zen each of the different items in the legacy pack would cost after launch?
I understand the big pack says there's a savings of $57 (unless my math/memory has failed me :P ), but I don't want all the items in pack and would like to know if it would behoove me to get the things I do want a la carte.
Thanks!
It's $181.00 worth of items. I did a rough breakdown earlier in the thread:
Assuming the ships follow the same pricing structure as the Fed or KDF you get:
That all adds up to $179.75, and I might be off $1.25 somewhere to get to $181.00
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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So that's nice, for people who think they can only afford a little, and then decide to go big.
Your pricing breakdown is pretty much what I was guessing it was going to be.
Also sorry for not completely going through the thread myself, but at 44 pages and counting I became lazy
The only thing to keep in mind is that the Doff Pack and the Titles are exclusive to the Packs. You can't buy those in-game. So if you want the title "Rihannsu," for example, then the only way to get it would be to buy the Legacy Pack.
Everything else will be in the C-Store when LoR launches.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Purchased and cannot wait. Also the EU price varrible is VAT(Value Added Tax), which is 20% in the UK does say above but noticed a few people moaning and I myself also did moan at first untill i remebered. My taxes ain't so bad i'll live also paypal was bing a git with doing its own translation of Euros to pounds so I optioned to let my bank worry about that and saved ?6ish.
My only question is with the Remans being unlockable in game with the New Romulus reputation(which my main has done already) will there be anything else added like more clothes options for people who bought the Legacy pack, not exclusive to us as thats just as easily just put into the pack(of which there are varrious clothes options already). Just lwondering detailes of these new incentives that are being added along with the unlockable playable race. And what do we get to kind of balance the Omega rep grind freed borg bridge officers of races like Andorians or Gorn??? That'd be cool - just saying
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As someone who is returning to the game to play a Romulan. I wish part of the legacy pack I bought would have been access to them on tribble. I know there will eventually be a point they open it to all players, but still, it would have been nice.
Don't think it would matter anyway if what you want is access to your pack stuff. You can't claim C-Store items on Tribble as far as I know. If you transfer a Holodeck character that already has the item it will transfer with them. But a character created on Tribble can't themselves go in and claim something. For example, I wasn't able to claim my Red Matter Capacitor when I was play testing the Romulan stuff. Also, those Legacy Pack ships and other items are not necessarily done yet. The LoR expansion on Tribble is, as yet, incomplete.
Thanks for the change, though I would have preferred:
Subadmiral
Admiral
Vice Admiral
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I think, if you look at most Admiralty structures, "Admiral" is superior to "Vice Admiral"
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I just think the whole I/II thing is somewhat off. The KDF get distinct titles at each Rank while the Feds have to deal with Upper/Lower and the Roms need to deal with I/II. It just feels clunky and tacked on. And it's especially annoying to have an NPC call you Rear Admiral Lower Half - and I'm sure it will be clunky to see a Rom NPC call you Subadmiral I.
Let's rename the Feds: Commodore, Rear Admiral, and Vice Admiral and rename the Roms Subadmiral, Vice Admiral, and Admiral. That way all 3 Factions can feel distinctive at each Rank.
Or better yet, simply merge all of 40-49 together and call it 1 title rather then 2 groups of 5. 40-49 can be Rear Admiral for the Feds and Subadmiral for the Roms. No upper/lower, no I/II.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Can I ask a silly question? What's the point of having I and II or Rear Admiral Lower Half/Upper Half anymore, especially since we don't get doffs or a ship anymore? Has that ever been discussed?
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I just think the whole I/II thing is somewhat off. The KDF get distinct titles at each Rank while the Feds have to deal with Upper/Lower and the Roms need to deal with I/II. It just feels clunky and tacked on. And it's especially annoying to have an NPC call you Rear Admiral Lower Half - and I'm sure it will be clunky to see a Rom NPC call you Subadmiral I.
Let's rename the Feds: Commodore, Rear Admiral, and Vice Admiral and rename the Roms Subadmiral, Vice Admiral, and Admiral. That way all 3 Factions can feel distinctive at each Rank.
Or better yet, simply merge all of 40-49 together and call it 1 title rather then 2 groups of 5. 40-49 can be Rear Admiral for the Feds and Subadmiral for the Roms. No upper/lower, no I/II.
I could be mistaken, so don't hold me to it, but I believe the tech to just call you "Rear Admiral" is coming with Legacy of Romulus, regardless of being "Upper" or "Lower". I'll still pass along your (and the posts above this one) feedback!
Speaking for Rear Admiral Lower and Upper, those are real ranks that are below Vice Admiral. With us progressing to Fleet Admiral soon (please do not add a new tier of ships), Admiral is the rank between Vice and Fleet Admiral. Thus if 40-44 is Rear Admiral Lower, 45-49 is Rear Admiral Upper, I can only assume that 50-54 is Vice Admiral, 55-59 is Admiral and 60 is Fleet Admiral.
To be honest, I think the highest rank you could be, should be Captain and that Admiral ranks would be something reserved for fleet officers. When has Star Trek been about the heroic adventures or an admiral, the only example would be Kirk, but that was a great demonstration on how to get demoted.
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I could be mistaken, so don't hold me to it, but I believe the tech to just call you "Rear Admiral" is coming with Legacy of Romulus, regardless of being "Upper" or "Lower". I'll still pass along your (and the posts above this one) feedback!
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Will that tech evolve into the tech to have NPCs call you by whatever title you choose? E.g. "Captain" or "Tal Shiar's Most Wanted"?
Better yet, implement a different rank structure that either ends at captain, or just has different levels of captain "clearance". I get that you want to tie our leveling in to the show's ranks for some reason, but I think many people would prefer to just be a captain.
Ah, good to be back, after 6mo away from STO.. or any PC game I've returned. My aunt favored me with an old (2yo) Office Comp. After a few tweaks (Added my old Graphics card and hard drive from a friend) to the new PC and hopefully it'll run STO (And SWToR which I was playing before my old PC died).
Now on to Buisness.. As a Lifter, I don't think we should get too much extra. When I purchased LTS (Founder) they only said we "May" get other things along the way. The only thing we were Guaranteed along with Non-LTS was not having to play for the expansions and our playable Borg, we were also supposed to have exclusive access to that traswarpy base thingy (Which was also made available to Vets) which did annoy me a bit, but since no-one ever went ther, no real great loss. As they stated the expansion is free so thats fine.
As for the special ships and whatnot, No I don't think we should get them free, Maybe a little something like the afforementiond Reman/Romulan playable borg or something but as a LTS I've more than gotten what I've paid for which is not having to pay a sub, get 500zen/cp per mo etc. etc.
As to the above post(s) I agree about the titles.. We have way to many VA's running around. The structure should be set back to Captain being the highest rank with VA reserved for the leader of a Fleet (or additionally the fleets leadership). I'd be quite happy just being called "Captain".. or even.. "Hey you". Seeing everyone as VA's (And counting the ones I've deleted I've hade.. um.. 5-8 VA's) really doesn't make alot of sense. Also I like the idea of being called by whatever title/perk I have selected at the time (Which oddly enough is usually Captain, though I have used some of the others as a whim)
At least they are finally releasing this. Just as the Cathar are finally comming to Bio Ware's SWToR. They are keeping up their end of the bargain and I for one am happy about that at least. Keep up the good work Cryptic, will be checking out Neverwinter soon too as it looks like you guys did a nice job on it. Never got to use my Closed Beta invite for that as that was the day my old PC died, but since you're in Open Beta now I hope to look into it soon.
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I could be mistaken, so don't hold me to it, but I believe the tech to just call you "Rear Admiral" is coming with Legacy of Romulus, regardless of being "Upper" or "Lower".
In the real world, the form of address is still 'Admiral'.
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So you are taking payments for these packs, yet you have not even disclosed the statistics of the ships or any details on specifications? Classic 'give us your $$$ now and we'll throw you a bone later' PW approach. The only thing that's really 'free' about this game is the storyline which is arguably the worst part about it besides the bugs. Was hoping to see the constant poking and prodding to spend real money in this game take a backseat to this new expansion so we could actually enjoy playing Star Trek again but alas, you need your hands in our pockets while this thing is still in beta!? Some things never change.
So you are taking payments for these packs, yet you have not even disclosed the statistics of the ships or any details on specifications? Classic 'give us your $$$ now and we'll throw you a bone later' PW approach. The only thing that's really 'free' about this game is the storyline which is arguably the worst part about it besides the bugs. Was hoping to see the constant poking and prodding to spend real money in this game take a backseat to this new expansion so we could actually enjoy playing Star Trek again but alas, you need your hands in our pockets while this thing is still in beta!? Some things never change.
You're not required to buy either Pack to play as a Romulan. The Packs are just C-Store bundles you can buy for a 30% discount. If you don't want to buy them you can simply buy the items individually on the C-Store at launch - assuming you even want the items. The only things exclusive to the Packs are the titles and the Romulan Doff 4-pack.
Your not forced to buy anything. You're not forced to pre-order anything. You're not even forced to play as a Rom if you're not interested. And you can even use existing T1-T4 ships you've already bought on a allied Romulan. Cryptic's basically made it as simple as possible to not spend money.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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and thuss the basis of my allbeit micro ragefest i fell for that misconcepction thank you for answering my question youve cleared up my curiousness i revoke my "i quit" rant now haveing been enlightened
@ the troll who called me entitled: try actually reading the topic before you post bro troll failed
Devs,
I and several others would greatly appreciate it if the Legacy Packs could be made available for purchase via Steam. Some of us simply dont have the neccessary cards with which to buy the packs online but over time we have been able to get steam money through cash.
You would sell a lot more Legacy packs as well as make plenty of your loyal fans extremely excited if you would consider making Steam a viable payment offer.
Many Thanks for your consideration.
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Have they announced a break down of how much zen each of the different items in the legacy pack would cost after launch?
I understand the big pack says there's a savings of $57 (unless my math/memory has failed me :P ), but I don't want all the items in pack and would like to know if it would behoove me to get the things I do want a la carte.
Thanks!
So that's nice, for people who think they can only afford a little, and then decide to go big.
Your pricing breakdown is pretty much what I was guessing it was going to be.
Also sorry for not completely going through the thread myself, but at 44 pages and counting I became lazy
Everything else will be in the C-Store when LoR launches.
Always had hopes for it. Maybe i'll come back to check it out.
My only question is with the Remans being unlockable in game with the New Romulus reputation(which my main has done already) will there be anything else added like more clothes options for people who bought the Legacy pack, not exclusive to us as thats just as easily just put into the pack(of which there are varrious clothes options already). Just lwondering detailes of these new incentives that are being added along with the unlockable playable race. And what do we get to kind of balance the Omega rep grind freed borg bridge officers of races like Andorians or Gorn??? That'd be cool - just saying
W.B. Yeats
Lifer since beta its never been so good! So now can everyone chill this game is going in the right direction :P
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Subadmiral
Admiral
Vice Admiral
I think, if you look at most Admiralty structures, "Admiral" is superior to "Vice Admiral"
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
LTS, here since...when did this game launch again?
Let's rename the Feds: Commodore, Rear Admiral, and Vice Admiral and rename the Roms Subadmiral, Vice Admiral, and Admiral. That way all 3 Factions can feel distinctive at each Rank.
Or better yet, simply merge all of 40-49 together and call it 1 title rather then 2 groups of 5. 40-49 can be Rear Admiral for the Feds and Subadmiral for the Roms. No upper/lower, no I/II.
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Can I ask a silly question? What's the point of having I and II or Rear Admiral Lower Half/Upper Half anymore, especially since we don't get doffs or a ship anymore? Has that ever been discussed?
Let us upgrade the Seleya Ceremonial Lirpa and Kri'stak Blade
I could be mistaken, so don't hold me to it, but I believe the tech to just call you "Rear Admiral" is coming with Legacy of Romulus, regardless of being "Upper" or "Lower". I'll still pass along your (and the posts above this one) feedback!
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
To be honest, I think the highest rank you could be, should be Captain and that Admiral ranks would be something reserved for fleet officers. When has Star Trek been about the heroic adventures or an admiral, the only example would be Kirk, but that was a great demonstration on how to get demoted.
LTS, here since...when did this game launch again?
Will that tech evolve into the tech to have NPCs call you by whatever title you choose? E.g. "Captain" or "Tal Shiar's Most Wanted"?
Better yet, implement a different rank structure that either ends at captain, or just has different levels of captain "clearance". I get that you want to tie our leveling in to the show's ranks for some reason, but I think many people would prefer to just be a captain.
Now on to Buisness.. As a Lifter, I don't think we should get too much extra. When I purchased LTS (Founder) they only said we "May" get other things along the way. The only thing we were Guaranteed along with Non-LTS was not having to play for the expansions and our playable Borg, we were also supposed to have exclusive access to that traswarpy base thingy (Which was also made available to Vets) which did annoy me a bit, but since no-one ever went ther, no real great loss. As they stated the expansion is free so thats fine.
As for the special ships and whatnot, No I don't think we should get them free, Maybe a little something like the afforementiond Reman/Romulan playable borg or something but as a LTS I've more than gotten what I've paid for which is not having to pay a sub, get 500zen/cp per mo etc. etc.
As to the above post(s) I agree about the titles.. We have way to many VA's running around. The structure should be set back to Captain being the highest rank with VA reserved for the leader of a Fleet (or additionally the fleets leadership). I'd be quite happy just being called "Captain".. or even.. "Hey you". Seeing everyone as VA's (And counting the ones I've deleted I've hade.. um.. 5-8 VA's) really doesn't make alot of sense. Also I like the idea of being called by whatever title/perk I have selected at the time (Which oddly enough is usually Captain, though I have used some of the others as a whim)
At least they are finally releasing this. Just as the Cathar are finally comming to Bio Ware's SWToR. They are keeping up their end of the bargain and I for one am happy about that at least. Keep up the good work Cryptic, will be checking out Neverwinter soon too as it looks like you guys did a nice job on it. Never got to use my Closed Beta invite for that as that was the day my old PC died, but since you're in Open Beta now I hope to look into it soon.
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What now add a lower rank to get rid of the I/II:
Civilian
Sub-lieutenant (link)
Lieutenant
Centurion
Subcommander
Commander
Subadmiral
Vice Admiral
Isn't "Civilian" called "Citizen" now?
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In the real world, the form of address is still 'Admiral'.
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Your not forced to buy anything. You're not forced to pre-order anything. You're not even forced to play as a Rom if you're not interested. And you can even use existing T1-T4 ships you've already bought on a allied Romulan. Cryptic's basically made it as simple as possible to not spend money.