Te main problem with the rags is that they make no sense at all. The homeworld is gone yes, but every ship still has replicators. Just make new clothes. No need at all for rags.
Well apparently Dev posts have stated that both the TNG Romulan uniforms and TOS era Romulan uniforms are silly looking and hint that they won't be available.
God, I hope not. If they've really reached the point where "hey this sci-fi costume looks a little weird" becomes an internal talking point, we're in a lot of trouble.
Then again they put Rigelians and (pretty much made up) Saurians in the game. So this seems... hard to process.
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Not liking the Romulan uniform found here, specifically in the lower left. I prefer the uniforms shown throughout the ST movies and shows. Even in the Legacy of Romulus page, Sela's uniform is more traditional, which I like (from what we can see). Even the Tal Shiar's is alright. The New Romulans are dressed like bums.
On the bright side... After combing through the page again, there's more than just one Romulan uniform shown there. One thing that particularly caught my attention was the guy standing in the picture with Sela. He looks like he's probably a red-shirt security guard, but.... what's he wearing? I've never seen that outfit anywhere before. Also.... Sela's outfit looks a lot like the TNG uniforms, BUT.... it has no decorations on it.
Well apparently Dev posts have stated that both the TNG Romulan uniforms and TOS era Romulan uniforms are silly looking and hint that they won't be available.
Looking at the past three years of, shall we say MINIMAL development attention? Yeah, minimal development attention given to the KDF's uniform capabilities ... I certainly wouldn't hold my breath for a wide variety of customization.
Question: What happens when this is the only choice? Will there be a complaint?
Seriosely though, after 3 years you finally get your faction and are already complaining about the uniforms 2 months before it's actually released?!?
is it really a the faction we were asking for if it:
1) Isn't even the Romulan Star Empire, and instead is some band of freedom fighters called the 'Romulan Republic'? What embodies the spirit of Romulans better expressed in the shows and movies? Freedom Fighters or the RSE?
2) We don't even get the grey Romulan uniforms already utilized in game by NPCs, much less the ones from the TNG era or TOS era? Heck, even the Romulan standing behind Sela can't be bothered to put on a proper uniform. The new uniforms don't look *remotely* like anything we have seen a romulan wear in any of the series.
3) We can't even give our ships the IRW prefix, and get stuck with RRW? That's like restricting Fed players to ISS.
There are a lot of questionable design decisions Cryptic have made that have been adequately showcased to the extent that the direction they are taking the Romulans is certainly a valid target for criticism.
As it seems almost certain we are playing the Romulan republic and not what is left of the romulan empire, it makes sense that you would not wear the old uniforms, especially if the tal shiar have gone into full oppressive mode against the break away rebels.
it would be like escaping from a TRIBBLE controlled prison camp and then everybody wearing TRIBBLE uniforms.
in saying that, as it all comes under the umbrella of being a game, i can see them adding the uniforms as people will want to wear them.
I am surprised that so many people want those ugly TOS uniforms?
While I'm not necessarily supprised that people would want the TOS uniforms (after all, there are a lot of TOS fans out there) I am quite supprised at how many people deride the TNG-style uniforms, to the point that they feel that the TOS-style uniforms should have precedent over the TNG era uniforms, which are
much more widely associated with the Romulans, due to them, or variants of them, being present in three series instead of just one. Heck, the military uniforms worn by Romulan Star Empire personnel in STO are already based off of the TNG-era uniforms. There isn't any reasonable expectation for the TOS uniforms to be the primary faction uniform, or for the new romulan faction to act like TOS romulans.
There is obviously a precedent for TOS style uniforms as zen unlocks such as the Feds have, or as alternative uniform parts, ala the klingons. On the other hand, Cryptic deciding to throw all of the TNG-era romulan trappings out and going in a completely different direction with the Romulan Republic and the freedom fighter vibe and the strange winter-jacket reskin uniforms that don't look remotely like anythign romulans wore in any era of Star Trek.
As it seems almost certain we are playing the Romulan republic and not what is left of the romulan empire, it makes sense that you would not wear the old uniforms, especially if the tal shiar have gone into full oppressive mode against the break away rebels.
it would be like escaping from a TRIBBLE controlled prison camp and then everybody wearing TRIBBLE uniforms.
in saying that, as it all comes under the umbrella of being a game, i can see them adding the uniforms as people will want to wear them.
I personally do not see it as anything at all like concentration camp survivors wearing TRIBBLE uniforms...for one, the Romulan military and the Tal'Shiar are different entities, and for another-do we have anything to indicate that the general populous of the Romulan Star Empire is as oppressed as TRIBBLE camp inmates? The general populace from the Reunification pt I and II did not seem to be in any situation at all comparable to a TRIBBLE camp, I don't think there is much indication to believe that general life under the RSE is any worse than it might be under the Klingons or Cardassians.
Of course, we are playing the Romulan Republic, and I doubt that there is anythign that can be done about it right now to convince the devs otherwise, but I do still feel that there are valid complaints on this issue, and they deserve to be voiced.
O do really, really hope that RSE uniforms of some type are available at start, and not as some sort of Zen or Lobi purchase, or (even worse) not available at all.
Although I feel it's too soon to be demanding things from a faction most thought was mythical two days ago when we don't even know the plan yet......
Romulan tos uniforms which unlock for Fed Vulcans after purchase.:P
Some unlocks for Vulcans would be nice, the two species share quite the history. As for it beign too soon to complain... from what has been revealed of the faction so far has been quite different than what should have been expected. Instead of the Romulan Space Empire, we have a bunch of freedom fighters working to overthrow their government. There could not be more of a disconect from the Romulans of the show at all. It's a pretty big thing for people who care, big enough to complain about, in my opinion. besides, complaints that don't get voiced are never heard.
That Admiral looks like he's about to be mugged on his own ship. :P
Heh I agree. Personally I think the Rommie BOFF uniforms (and the rommie civilians) clothing don;t look very romulan at all. Too much leather and patched clothing. he looks a bit liek a thug, IMO. Still, I was hopeful that they would go with somethign mroe like the aesthetics of the Romulan soldiers already in game for the Romulan Faction. I guess I was wrong (and quite disappointed).
Like I always say, makes your character who ever you want, my Human Captain is a Section 31 agent who is pro humanity, and my KDF is the Malcolm Reynolds of pirates.
is it really a the faction we were asking for if it:
1) Isn't even the Romulan Star Empire, and instead is some band of freedom fighters called the 'Romulan Republic'? What embodies the spirit of Romulans better expressed in the shows and movies? Freedom Fighters or the RSE?
2) We don't even get the grey Romulan uniforms already utilized in game by NPCs, much less the ones from the TNG era or TOS era? Heck, even the Romulan standing behind Sela can't be bothered to put on a proper uniform. The new uniforms don't look *remotely* like anything we have seen a romulan wear in any of the series.
3) We can't even give our ships the IRW prefix, and get stuck with RRW? That's like restricting Fed players to ISS.
There are a lot of questionable design decisions Cryptic have made that have been adequately showcased to the extent that the direction they are taking the Romulans is certainly a valid target for criticism.
Dont't get this as preaching or anything, I just want to point out some current facts:
1. The first time I walked in STO, I was looking to play a Fed. captain. I do share and admire the ideals of the Federation as portrayed in the shows. Now in STO, I play as KDF.
Why? The Klingon experience is more genuine to me. If you take a good look, even the Federation faction is not much of the Federation at all, it's more of the Terran Empire that roflstomps everyone at sight, uses mirror ships and has a Jem'Hadar fleet outside of ESD.
In your words, what embodies the spirit of the Federation better expressed in the shows and movies? The UFP or the Terran Empire?
2. The KDF players for 3 years now don't get some uniforms they see on NPCs every day, like the Dahar Master coat to give an example. BTW, you can't be sure what they have in store for the Romulan faction based on 2 pictures, maybe you'll get the uniforms you're looking for as a part of the faction on release.
3. Although I see your logic in not expecting to be able to have the I.R.W. prefix to your ship's name, since you're part of the Romulan Republic, that really doesn't have to mean anything. I never expected to see any other prefixes than U.S.S. for the Starfleet ships and today we have - U.S.S.; I.S.S.; V.S.S.; I.G.V. & I.G.S. So I believe that there is certainly the possibility of you getting the I.R.W. prefix as well. At this point, we really don't know yet.
I do like the new Romulan uniforms and yes, they do resemble something of WWII German tank crew uniforms. Overall there is some german thing in the Romulan faction. Take the ships with the round curves ... Volkswagen Kever (Bug), anybody?
The old style Romulans and the combination with their hair makes me laugh. It is like, we are not the serious guys in the universe, no, we are the most serious guys in the universe. Take notice about that.
As it seems almost certain we are playing the Romulan republic and not what is left of the romulan empire, it makes sense that you would not wear the old uniforms, especially if the tal shiar have gone into full oppressive mode against the break away rebels.
it would be like escaping from a TRIBBLE controlled prison camp and then everybody wearing TRIBBLE uniforms.
in saying that, as it all comes under the umbrella of being a game, i can see them adding the uniforms as people will want to wear them.
You should take a look at modern German military dress uniforms sometime.
They're not that different from what the TRIBBLE wore, only without the swastikas and other TRIBBLE livery.
Escaping or outliving an oppressive regime doesn't mean your military gets to go informal and start dressing like students on an archaeology dig.
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As for playable Rommies, I hope we get as many canon costuming choices as possible, from ridiculous shoulder pads to weird skull caps, it's all good
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There are references to TOS Romulan Uniforms in the patch manifest.
Might want to buy some now as the prices are already going up
God, I hope not. If they've really reached the point where "hey this sci-fi costume looks a little weird" becomes an internal talking point, we're in a lot of trouble.
Then again they put Rigelians and (pretty much made up) Saurians in the game. So this seems... hard to process.
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Well said! Tos uniforms are good!
But since we already got Fed and Klingon Tos, and confirmed TOS romulan bird of prey.... its logical to assume we'll get TOS romulan outfits too!
Wow, the Romulan recruitment officers must have been desperate to make their quotas if they put that fatso on the left on duty.
all he has to do is stand their and shoot things. its not like they made him an engineer that has to do heavy lifting.
P.S. I think the TNG Uniforms looked ugly cause they looked like they were made for huge people and looked silly.
is it really a the faction we were asking for if it:
1) Isn't even the Romulan Star Empire, and instead is some band of freedom fighters called the 'Romulan Republic'? What embodies the spirit of Romulans better expressed in the shows and movies? Freedom Fighters or the RSE?
2) We don't even get the grey Romulan uniforms already utilized in game by NPCs, much less the ones from the TNG era or TOS era? Heck, even the Romulan standing behind Sela can't be bothered to put on a proper uniform. The new uniforms don't look *remotely* like anything we have seen a romulan wear in any of the series.
3) We can't even give our ships the IRW prefix, and get stuck with RRW? That's like restricting Fed players to ISS.
There are a lot of questionable design decisions Cryptic have made that have been adequately showcased to the extent that the direction they are taking the Romulans is certainly a valid target for criticism.
I'm sure if enough people want it, and it's within the budget to get it done it will be on the C-store.
p.s I'm in agreement :P
it would be like escaping from a TRIBBLE controlled prison camp and then everybody wearing TRIBBLE uniforms.
in saying that, as it all comes under the umbrella of being a game, i can see them adding the uniforms as people will want to wear them.
https://twitter.com/ITM_Universe/status/310634200074170368/photo/1
I hope this becomes available.
much more widely associated with the Romulans, due to them, or variants of them, being present in three series instead of just one. Heck, the military uniforms worn by Romulan Star Empire personnel in STO are already based off of the TNG-era uniforms. There isn't any reasonable expectation for the TOS uniforms to be the primary faction uniform, or for the new romulan faction to act like TOS romulans.
There is obviously a precedent for TOS style uniforms as zen unlocks such as the Feds have, or as alternative uniform parts, ala the klingons. On the other hand, Cryptic deciding to throw all of the TNG-era romulan trappings out and going in a completely different direction with the Romulan Republic and the freedom fighter vibe and the strange winter-jacket reskin uniforms that don't look remotely like anythign romulans wore in any era of Star Trek.
I personally do not see it as anything at all like concentration camp survivors wearing TRIBBLE uniforms...for one, the Romulan military and the Tal'Shiar are different entities, and for another-do we have anything to indicate that the general populous of the Romulan Star Empire is as oppressed as TRIBBLE camp inmates? The general populace from the Reunification pt I and II did not seem to be in any situation at all comparable to a TRIBBLE camp, I don't think there is much indication to believe that general life under the RSE is any worse than it might be under the Klingons or Cardassians.
Of course, we are playing the Romulan Republic, and I doubt that there is anythign that can be done about it right now to convince the devs otherwise, but I do still feel that there are valid complaints on this issue, and they deserve to be voiced.
O do really, really hope that RSE uniforms of some type are available at start, and not as some sort of Zen or Lobi purchase, or (even worse) not available at all.
Although I feel it's too soon to be demanding things from a faction most thought was mythical two days ago when we don't even know the plan yet......
Romulan tos uniforms which unlock for Fed Vulcans after purchase.:P
That Admiral looks like he's about to be mugged on his own ship. :P
Some unlocks for Vulcans would be nice, the two species share quite the history. As for it beign too soon to complain... from what has been revealed of the faction so far has been quite different than what should have been expected. Instead of the Romulan Space Empire, we have a bunch of freedom fighters working to overthrow their government. There could not be more of a disconect from the Romulans of the show at all. It's a pretty big thing for people who care, big enough to complain about, in my opinion. besides, complaints that don't get voiced are never heard.
Heh I agree. Personally I think the Rommie BOFF uniforms (and the rommie civilians) clothing don;t look very romulan at all. Too much leather and patched clothing. he looks a bit liek a thug, IMO. Still, I was hopeful that they would go with somethign mroe like the aesthetics of the Romulan soldiers already in game for the Romulan Faction. I guess I was wrong (and quite disappointed).
Dont't get this as preaching or anything, I just want to point out some current facts:
1. The first time I walked in STO, I was looking to play a Fed. captain. I do share and admire the ideals of the Federation as portrayed in the shows. Now in STO, I play as KDF.
Why? The Klingon experience is more genuine to me. If you take a good look, even the Federation faction is not much of the Federation at all, it's more of the Terran Empire that roflstomps everyone at sight, uses mirror ships and has a Jem'Hadar fleet outside of ESD.
In your words, what embodies the spirit of the Federation better expressed in the shows and movies? The UFP or the Terran Empire?
2. The KDF players for 3 years now don't get some uniforms they see on NPCs every day, like the Dahar Master coat to give an example. BTW, you can't be sure what they have in store for the Romulan faction based on 2 pictures, maybe you'll get the uniforms you're looking for as a part of the faction on release.
3. Although I see your logic in not expecting to be able to have the I.R.W. prefix to your ship's name, since you're part of the Romulan Republic, that really doesn't have to mean anything. I never expected to see any other prefixes than U.S.S. for the Starfleet ships and today we have - U.S.S.; I.S.S.; V.S.S.; I.G.V. & I.G.S. So I believe that there is certainly the possibility of you getting the I.R.W. prefix as well. At this point, we really don't know yet.
Don't be so surprised, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
My vote also goes for the TOS uniforms!
The old style Romulans and the combination with their hair makes me laugh. It is like, we are not the serious guys in the universe, no, we are the most serious guys in the universe. Take notice about that.
Looks ancient Indian to me, with a little Greco Roman antiquity
You should take a look at modern German military dress uniforms sometime.
They're not that different from what the TRIBBLE wore, only without the swastikas and other TRIBBLE livery.
Escaping or outliving an oppressive regime doesn't mean your military gets to go informal and start dressing like students on an archaeology dig.