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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    exa12 wrote: »
    The Engineering one I dont see anything. The science and tac though, stargates and chaos undivided, really?
    Huh? Wait... Khorne's logo is a compass rose? O_o'
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  • kadieraskadieras Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I want a TNG Romulan Uniform also.
    Like the Romulan Alliance System? Of course you do, it sounds fine to you because you aren't Romulans, you're FED or KDF who are going to make a Romulan alt, it makes a HUGE difference in perspective.
  • captrott1captrott1 Member Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Well, my hope is that the Romulan faction tells a story of how the Empire fractures and becomes this new Republic. In other words, I would ideally like to start of an officer in the Star Empire
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    captrott1 wrote: »
    Well, my hope is that the Romulan faction tells a story of how the Empire fractures and becomes this new Republic. In other words, I would ideally like to start of an officer in the Star Empire
    Uh, the game already has told the story for why the RSE is gone. Did you never play a federation character through the story arcs? You can probably catch up on all the deets at the STO Wiki.
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  • daroskadaroska Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I for one appreciate the Romulan Republic's military or citizenry apparel.
    To me it gives off the vibe of the Reman Resistance, as well as Romulan Refugees.
    Which is exactly what the Romulan Republic appears to be about this time.

    Not the Romulan Star Empire, it's enemy by all means. So why wear *their* uniforms?

    Anyway, there's an identifiable disruption with the usage of these outfits:
    A) Does a newly formed resistance/republic have the resources to replicate these especially?
    B) What do the subject species think? e.g. Remans. Would this even go down well with them?

    Well in my opinion, they're outfits are alright as they are now. Not only do represent a
    difference between the Romulan Republic and the Romulan Star Empire, but they are
    also akin to clothing found on the Romulan Refugees/Reman Resistance, which gives
    motion to show they are just as embattled- not pampered, rich or selfish like the RSE.
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lizwei wrote: »
    I do hope we'll get other options, such as the TOS uniforms, and the Nemesis uniforms (about the only good thing to come out of that crime against humanity).

    this^^^^^^^ and to add the TNG and DS9 ones to
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • tpalelenatpalelena Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    daroska wrote: »
    I for one appreciate the Romulan Republic's military or citizenry apparel.
    To me it gives off the vibe of the Reman Resistance, as well as Romulan Refugees.
    Which is exactly what the Romulan Republic appears to be about this time.

    Not the Romulan Star Empire, it's enemy by all means. So why wear *their* uniforms?

    Anyway, there's an identifiable disruption with the usage of these outfits:
    A) Does a newly formed resistance/republic have the resources to replicate these especially?
    B) What do the subject species think? e.g. Remans. Would this even go down well with them?

    Well in my opinion, they're outfits are alright as they are now. Not only do represent a
    difference between the Romulan Republic and the Romulan Star Empire, but they are
    also akin to clothing found on the Romulan Refugees/Reman Resistance, which gives
    motion to show they are just as embattled- not pampered, rich or selfish like the RSE.


    Plus this is a good way for the poor Klingons to differentiate between the Tal'shiar agents and playable romulans!

    Its not like there is a floating hologram saying don't shoot, I'm republic above their heads.... heh heh.
    Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    daroska wrote: »
    I for one appreciate the Romulan Republic's military or citizenry apparel.
    To me it gives off the vibe of the Reman Resistance, as well as Romulan Refugees.
    Which is exactly what the Romulan Republic appears to be about this time.

    Not the Romulan Star Empire, it's enemy by all means. So why wear *their* uniforms?

    Why use their ships? Why use their guns? Why use their equipment?
    Anyway, there's an identifiable disruption with the usage of these outfits:
    A) Does a newly formed resistance/republic have the resources to replicate these especially?

    Why does this keep coming up?
    All you need to replicate something is 3 things:
    - A replicator.
    - A working power source.
    - Raw matter.

    If the Romulan Republic can field D'deridexes and Scimtars then they can plug in a replicator.
    B) What do the subject species think? e.g. Remans. Would this even go down well with them?

    I think the Remans have better things to care about than what uniforms the Romulans are wearing.
    Well in my opinion, they're outfits are alright as they are now. Not only do represent a
    difference between the Romulan Republic and the Romulan Star Empire, but they are
    also akin to clothing found on the Romulan Refugees/Reman Resistance, which gives
    motion to show they are just as embattled- not pampered, rich or selfish like the RSE.

    So what part of the Romulan Republic is actually Romulan? Because I'm not sure I see any.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Our first order of business is to SAVE the empire
    Live long and Prosper
  • tpalelenatpalelena Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    It is a bit harder to get a totally new ship type and designs, then build them... then getting new clothes.


    I thought everybody knew that.
    Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Our first order of business is to SAVE the empire

    this ^^^^^^^ The Empire must rise again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    tpalelena wrote: »
    It is a bit harder to get a totally new ship type and designs, then build them... then getting new clothes.


    I thought everybody knew that.
    But those uniforms are so OLD. And that means they're useless in the 25th century. It'd be like using Victorian Era Clothing in today's NASA space missions.

    Does this look like an astronaut to you?

    Come on people. CBS said no to old stuff!
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  • voyagerfan9751voyagerfan9751 Member Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    honestly, there is so little information on the Romulan Faction at this point, i am going to wait and see. I hope at the very least we get some of the in-game NPC uniforms.

    Would make sense too, really. I mean even if you take out all the c-store options. Feds get like 5-6 options I think, and the Klingons have like 3-4. Would make no sense that the Romulans have only one.
  • daroskadaroska Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lizwei wrote: »
    Why use their ships? Why use their guns? Why use their equipment?

    An outdated bunch of 'former' uniforms is something.. less needed for the new Republic.
    lizwei wrote: »
    Why does this keep coming up?
    All you need to replicate something is 3 things:
    - A replicator.
    - A working power source.
    - Raw matter.

    If the Romulan Republic can field D'deridexes and Scimtars then they can plug in a replicator.

    I believe the reason being is that old Romulan clothing is 'expensive' appearing.
    Expensive means valuable materials. Jewels usually, fine silks, leather, precious metals.
    Not only do these need on-hand molecule patterns, but jewels/metals equals no-no.
    That's if I remember my lore correctly, which makes that dillithium/gold/latinum cannot
    be synthesized within a replicator due to their quantum complexity cannot be reformed.
    lizwei wrote: »
    I think the Remans have better things to care about than what uniforms the Romulans are wearing.

    Most of the Remans are extremists. Thalaron weapons ring a bell?
    A symbol of the old will not go down well to shape the status quo anew.
    It'd be too easy for a Reman to mistake this change in clothing as merely a..
    'Reemergence of the mindset of Romulan Supremacy' and become hostile.
    lizwei wrote: »
    So what part of the Romulan Republic is actually Romulan? Because I'm not sure I see any.


    The Romulans are still the same people, just with a different set of ideals.
    sollvax wrote: »
    Our first order of business is to SAVE the empire

    I'd hate to break your biscuit there, chump, but our first order of business is to reshape an empire.
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  • tpalelenatpalelena Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    But those uniforms are so OLD. And that means they're useless in the 25th century. It'd be like using Victorian Era Clothing in today's NASA space missions.

    Does this look like an astronaut to you?

    Come on people. CBS said no to old stuff!


    I don't give two craps about CBS. I think the "green jacket" Republic outfit will be free, while the TNG and TOS style will be C-store.

    And I meant that its easy to get a new uniform replicated in lore terms.

    But harder to build a new republic classes and designs instead of just using the romulan ones taht already exist.

    This was a reply to the people who suggested that renegades should use totally different starships then the old Star Empire.
    Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Cross Circuit the replicator with the transporter and you can replicate latinum (if you are wesley crusher)
    Live long and Prosper
  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    daroska wrote: »
    An outdated bunch of 'former' uniforms is something.. less needed for the new Republic.

    Outdated compared to what? College jackets?
    The Romulans may be many things, but informal is not one of them, not even renegades.
    I believe the reason being is that old Romulan clothing is 'expensive' appearing.
    Expensive means valuable materials. Jewels usually, fine silks, leather, precious metals.
    Not only do these need on-hand molecule patterns, but jewels/metals equals no-no.
    That's if I remember my lore correctly, which makes that dillithium/gold/latinum cannot
    be synthesized within a replicator due to their quantum complexity cannot be reformed.

    Just because it "looks" expensive doesn't mean it is.
    Hell, Starfleet combadges are partly made out of gold. Also, Kirk claimed he could manufacture any precious gem he was presented with even before the time of replicators.

    Most of the Remans are extremists. Thalaron weapons ring a bell?
    A symbol of the old will not go down well to shape the status quo anew.
    It'd be too easy for a Reman to mistake this change in clothing as merely a..
    'Reemergence of the mindset of Romulan Supremacy' and become hostile.

    And those guys are mostly with Obisek, and THAT was in response to the Tal'Shiar working with the Iconians.
    The Romulans are still the same people, just with a different set of ideals.

    I say a Romulan without Romulan ideals might as well be a Vulcan.
  • lordinsanelordinsane Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    tpalelena wrote: »
    I don't give two craps about CBS. I think the "green jacket" Republic outfit will be free, while the TNG and TOS style will be C-store.
    Well, you might not give two craps about CBS, but Cryptic has to, since CBS can veto anything they feel like vetoing.
    Of course, despite having it asked for (twice, by different people) snoggymack22 still hasn't said where he found the 'CBS has vetoed the old uniforms' quote, nor even responded to the question, but that's probably just a minor oversight which he will correct soon.
  • darkelfofficerdarkelfofficer Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lordinsane wrote: »
    Well, you might not give two craps about CBS, but Cryptic has to, since CBS can veto anything they feel like vetoing.
    Of course, despite having it asked for (twice, by different people) snoggymack22 still hasn't said where he found the 'CBS has vetoed the old uniforms' quote, nor even responded to the question, but that's probably just a minor oversight which he will correct soon.

    Assuming you're talking about the TOS Romulan uniforms, there isn't one. I made a post in another thread about how I hope those particular uniforms are available, because the TNG ones are awful, and a dev replied with a joke about TOS uniforms looking silly but TNG ones having ridiculous shoulder pads, and people went hysterical and turned that into "I will personally ensure neither of those uniforms make it in-game because they suck and I hate them."
  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Assuming you're talking about the TOS Romulan uniforms, there isn't one. I made a post in another thread about how I hope those particular uniforms are available, because the TNG ones are awful, and a dev replied with a joke about TOS uniforms looking silly but TNG ones having ridiculous shoulder pads, and people went hysterical and turned that into "I will personally ensure neither of those uniforms make it in-game because they suck and I hate them."

    And then people wonder why the devs don't talk much.
  • evendzharevendzhar Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    But those uniforms are so OLD. And that means they're useless in the 25th century. It'd be like using Victorian Era Clothing in today's NASA space missions.
    Or to use a more accurate analogy, it would be like the military using uniforms that have gone virtually unchanged for over a century. Oh wait, many armed forces actually do.
  • voyagerfan9751voyagerfan9751 Member Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Assuming you're talking about the TOS Romulan uniforms, there isn't one. I made a post in another thread about how I hope those particular uniforms are available, because the TNG ones are awful, and a dev replied with a joke about TOS uniforms looking silly but TNG ones having ridiculous shoulder pads, and people went hysterical and turned that into "I will personally ensure neither of those uniforms make it in-game because they suck and I hate them."

    You do realize everything concerning the expansion is a done deal at this point? Whatever is or isn't going to be in it has been decided long ago and no amount of forum rage is going to change that.

    If they decided to release the TOS uniforms, they are coming. You can buy them or not. I for one would love them. They were pretty snazzy looking in my opinion.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I already made a reasonable facsimile of a TOS Romulan uniform in Foundry.

    BEHOLD: http://marhawkman.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=24#/art/You-CAN-haz-Romulans-314111278?_sid=60e06ba4

    Obviously, it's not perfect, but it's pretty close.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    evendzhar wrote: »
    Or to use a more accurate analogy, it would be like the military using uniforms that have gone virtually unchanged for over a century. Oh wait, many armed forces actually do.
    They do?

    Or maybe we should just look at the navy?
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    They do?

    Or maybe we should just look at the navy?
    the specific details might be different but it's not a totally changed uniform.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    the specific details might be different but it's not a totally changed uniform.
    Pretty sure the navy changed its uniforms a few years back.
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  • sernonserculionsernonserculion Member Posts: 749 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I'm going to enlist into the Romulan equivalent of the Swiss Guard myself. Safely approaching TOS. The margin for error should be generous. ;)

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  • lordinsanelordinsane Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Assuming you're talking about the TOS Romulan uniforms, there isn't one. I made a post in another thread about how I hope those particular uniforms are available, because the TNG ones are awful, and a dev replied with a joke about TOS uniforms looking silly but TNG ones having ridiculous shoulder pads, and people went hysterical and turned that into "I will personally ensure neither of those uniforms make it in-game because they suck and I hate them."
    I haven't found one, no (I was aware of the quote you are referring to), which is why I asked snoggymack22 where he had found a quote by Wishstone that CBS had said no to the Romulan uniforms from the shows. It seemed an odd thing to say no to (considering that the two other sides had had their TOS uniforms let through), so context seems desirable.
  • kadieraskadieras Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The Men's Department of the Navy hasn't changed the style of their Service Uniforms in quite a long time.
    Like the Romulan Alliance System? Of course you do, it sounds fine to you because you aren't Romulans, you're FED or KDF who are going to make a Romulan alt, it makes a HUGE difference in perspective.
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