He wouldn't, because the sensitivity to light is an inherent genetic flaw in all Terrans...which is incredibly stupid, unrealistic and was never seen before - every location in the mirror universe ever seen prior to Discovery was just as bright as it was in the prime universe (except DS9, but given it was still being used as an ore processor there, lack of lighting is to be expected), which would be utter agony for Terrans if they had that light sensitivity all the way back to their first appearance.
How the hell does something like that even develop anyway? What, did Terra's Sol never become a class G star and instead became a class M or something?
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
He wouldn't, because the sensitivity to light is an inherent genetic flaw in all Terrans...which is incredibly stupid, unrealistic and was never seen before - every location in the mirror universe ever seen prior to Discovery was just as bright as it was in the prime universe (except DS9, but given it was still being used as an ore processor there, lack of lighting is to be expected), which would be utter agony for Terrans if they had that light sensitivity all the way back to their first appearance.
How the hell does something like that even develop anyway? What, did Terra's Sol never become a class G star and instead became a class M or something?
Good question. There was some very brief throwaway comment about the light looking different and the Terran eyes adapted to it, but as usual in DSC they never did anything to support it. Someone in chat said something about one of the novels said more about it but I never read any of them so I cannot corroborate that (and depending on novels to compensate for lazy writing in the show itself is inexcusable in my opinion, just like it was for The Force Awakens, but that is something for a different thread).
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Actually... I just found an interesting tidbit on Memory Alpha.
Although this was only revealed in "Vaulting Ambition", in mirror universe episodes predating Discovery and following "Mirror, Mirror", Terran starships and habitats are noticeably darker than a Federation starship would be, and Jonathan Archer appeared to squint while in the captain's chair of the USS Defiant. As such, "Mirror, Mirror" not featuring dimmed lights on the ISS Enterprise was likely a product of the mirror universe being a one-shot location that the production crew did not expect to be revisited in the later productions that fleshed it out - in other words, what TV Tropes would call "Early Installment Weirdness". In "The Wolf Inside", Michael Burnham remarked that the light of the mirror universe was different to that of the prime universe and that "the cosmos [had] lost its brilliance", which can be interpreted not only symbolically, referring to the dystopian nature of the mirror universe, but also literally, referring to a physical difference that would account for Terrans being more photosensitive.
And again...how the hell does that even HAPPEN? You cannot have an entire universe that that just isn't as bright as another, unless something went SERIOUSLY wrong during its formation.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
They simply thought that identifying mirror characters through their goatees was silly and decided they need a new hint for the audience to tell who is 'evil'. That's it.
Dimmer lights on mirror ships is a dumb thing to extrapolate terrans are photosensitive from. Klingons also don't 'squint' on Federation ships.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
They simply thought that identifying mirror characters through their goatees was silly and decided they need a new hint for the audience to tell who is 'evil'. That's it.
Dimmer lights on mirror ships is a dumb thing to extrapolate terrans are photosensitive from. Klingons also don't 'squint' on Federation ships.
Klingons are different from Mirror Terrans, it used to be fanon that their vision was shifted towards red and Roddenberry apparently liked the idea enough to have it put in TMP. Klingon ships don't have dim red lighting to the Klingons, it is bright normal light to them since they can see deeper into the red end of the spectrum than humans can, and Federation standard lighting is a cold bluish light sort of like the old mercury vapor streetlamps look to humans from their point of view.
They simply thought that identifying mirror characters through their goatees was silly and decided they need a new hint for the audience to tell who is 'evil'. That's it.
Dimmer lights on mirror ships is a dumb thing to extrapolate terrans are photosensitive from. Klingons also don't 'squint' on Federation ships.
yes, of course, it is ridiculous and far too much manichaeist. Good and evil are just a perception, and exist at the same time, an universe where an entire people would be evil, is ludicrous. I know that for the writers,The Terran represent the bad in the human race; but in the prime universe, this "bad" still exist in the federation: Burnham is selfish, Stamets same thing, some humans are still greedy etc.
The temporal content is not interesting and from time to time pathetic; even the characters contradict themselves about the temporal mechanic. Star Trek would be more interesting without temporal and mirror stuff, for me it is just laziness based on the canon excuse and a lack of imagination. For this reason, these TV shows will never make it to my top 10 sci-fi shows.
they should get rid of all that is ridiculous once and for all, even if it's canon, the quality of the shows is more important than this so-called legacy.
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And again...how the hell does that even HAPPEN? You cannot have an entire universe that that just isn't as bright as another, unless something went SERIOUSLY wrong during its formation.
I think you're taking it a bit too serious. For all we know that is how the Mirror Universe developed.
If you're throwing a fit over the Mirror Universe being somehow darker or with a different wavelength of light or whatever... you'll have an absolute hernia with Fluidic Space.
And again...how the hell does that even HAPPEN? You cannot have an entire universe that that just isn't as bright as another, unless something went SERIOUSLY wrong during its formation.
I think you're taking it a bit too serious. For all we know that is how the Mirror Universe developed.
If you're throwing a fit over the Mirror Universe being somehow darker or with a different wavelength of light or whatever... you'll have an absolute hernia with Fluidic Space.
A physical different universe would give birth to a totally different life form, not humans sensitive to light. Why, they didn't created an universe based on anti-matter? that would have been very interesting (1 episode of TOS is about an anti-matter universe). the writers of the shows should take a look at cosmos: possible worlds, and the other documentary presented by the awesome Neil De Grasse Tyson.
In the 60's, their knowledge of the universe was basic, now in 2021, we have a better knowledge of it; Star Trek should adapt.
Although this was only revealed in "Vaulting Ambition", in mirror universe episodes predating Discovery and following "Mirror, Mirror", Terran starships and habitats are noticeably darker than a Federation starship would be, and Jonathan Archer appeared to squint while in the captain's chair of the USS Defiant. As such, "Mirror, Mirror" not featuring dimmed lights on the ISS Enterprise was likely a product of the mirror universe being a one-shot location that the production crew did not expect to be revisited in the later productions that fleshed it out - in other words, what TV Tropes would call "Early Installment Weirdness". In "The Wolf Inside", Michael Burnham remarked that the light of the mirror universe was different to that of the prime universe and that "the cosmos [had] lost its brilliance", which can be interpreted not only symbolically, referring to the dystopian nature of the mirror universe, but also literally, referring to a physical difference that would account for Terrans being more photosensitive.
Something I noticed (and used as a background for one of my characters) could explain the odd light sensitivity though it is mainly speculation.
In the 1960s of Star Trek history the "eugenics program" would have had to be running, almost done developing the gene splicing babbled about in ENT for Khan and the older augments to be adults in the 1990s. At the same time Earth 2 was developing their longevity process. Both were disasters in their own way, the "eugenics" subjects had the aggressiveness and empathy-reduction side effect which eventually led to the Eugenics Wars and WWIII, and Earth 2's process mutated and went viral, turning into a plague that killed all the adults and left the children alive for centuries before Enterprise encountered them (and just by chance the Onlies seemed to avoid sunlight to some degree).
If the Mirror universe really is a mirror, with serendipity driving the same general history as Prime Earth and Earth 2 that means that during their 1960s they must have had something going as well, and maybe whatever it was had results between those of Earth and Earth 2 where whatever the main thing they were trying to do just flopped but they got their aggressiveness kicked up a bit and their empathy lowered a little (neither to the levels the Augments had), and possibly had their senses sharpened a little, causing light sensitivity as a side effect.
I seriously hope that IS what happened, because it would also explain that whole 'Terrans are genetically predisposed to being evil TRIBBLE' line that white-haired guy with the glasses said to Georgiou in S3 in a way that...well, I'd elaborate on just what I think of the obvious implication of that in the other possible way that could be taken, but I'd get banned.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
From the names it looks like they might be splitting Number One's concept into two people (Una Chin-Riley) and a new one (La'an Noonian-Singh) unless they plan to have two eugenic transhumans aboard.
I am definitely not a fan of those uniforms, they are pretty much just the DSC ones with different colors and collars. They have the same funky, binding shoulder pads and just about everything that they avoided in TOS (were the emphasis was on comfortable and practical clothing).
Worse yet, the fabric looks like damaged velour instead of the velvet it was supposed to be in TOS but they did not have the budget for (which is how they ended up with the quickly deteriorating velour). Yet another case of looking at clips without researching what the stuff was supposed to be.
I hope it is not a sign that the series is as shallow and haphazard as most of the other CBS Trek is.
On the upside, it looks like they have a really good cast.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Comfort is subjective and practical just means 'something that doesn't get in the way or restrict movement'.
True, though there are common factors with the comfort aspect and the TOS uniforms were designed to address those (or at least in theory anyway, the cheap velour the actual costumes were made of was rather hot and scratchy).
As for getting in the way and restricting movement, the SNW uniforms do just that (though not as bad as the new DSC ones). Just take a look at the stress folds in the shoulders when the cast moves, they are fighting the fabric, and it would bind even more if they put their arms over their heads to work on something overhead. And while that does not seem like a big thing, it can get fatiguing and/or irritating over time.
Also, the felt-like surface does not have the velvet-like knap that was supposed to provide a measure of temperature control (remember, they ran around without jackets in near freezing temperatures without discomfort in at least one episode, and survived even deep arctic temperatures with just the uniform, a blanket, and occasionally heated rocks).
Yeah, that's never going to actually happen in real life - I can see clothing interwoven with electronic bits and wiring and a long-lasting battery pack small and light enough to fit in a pocket or something heating up clothing enough to stave off a typical cold winter as seen in the northern portions of the USA or southern Canada, but there's no way in hell any clothing will be able to replace heavy winter gear for actual arctic temperatures.
No idea how cooling would be provided, but that might actually be easier to manage, even for extreme temperatures - can't be water-based, though, at least not without the ability to chill the water as it circulates, and can't use any freon or derivative, because while that works, look at how big even modern fridge cooling units are...and I don't think those can get much smaller than that and still be able to do what they do.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Although it looks like a moon. Itcould be a planet too, assuming there could be “M-class” moons around supermassive planets. A real giant moon could have dangerous tidal and weather patterns hostile to “life as we know it.”
Multiple moons too should make tides less regular than on Earth. That being said there are two dust bodies that orbit Earth that are equal to the mass of small moons.
I am kind of scared to watch Strange New Worlds to be honest. I hope I like it—but it really feels like it is my final hope for the franchise.
But for about half my life we have had Abrahms/Kurtzman Trek, so maybe that means I am not a fan after all. It may be time to admit that I am no longer a Trekker.
A "hot Jupiter" that orbits within its star's temperate zone could conceivably have an Earth-mass moon, with a breathable atmosphere - Titan is almost half Earth's size, and has an atmosphere of mostly methane (with hydrocarbon seas!). That's why we can still hope for Vulcan; turns out 40 Eridani A has a gas giant in its Goldilocks zone.
So we have one more episode tomorrow of Prodigy before it goes on hiatus. Discovery returns next week and ends in the middle of March while Picard starts early March and ends on the same day as the series premiere for Strange New Worlds. So we have 3 weeks of Discovery and Picard and 1 week of Picard and Strange New Worlds.
Yeah, I'm really excited for this show. First of all, it's set on the Enterprise and I love that new design. Second, we have a crew of consummate professionals lead by an incredible captain (which only makes sense that Starfleet puts their "best of the best" on it's flagship). Finally, their mission is just one of exploration, and isn't going to be a whole season of "RUN RUN RUN, THE ENTIRE GALAXY IS EXPLODING...AGAIN, JUST LIKE LAST SEASON!!!".
No, it won't be perfect. Yes, there will be fun things to debate and argue about. And I can't wait to see it
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I don't think the Enterprise was considered the Flagship until the Enterprise-A. However Constitution Class starships were considered plum assignments, thus highly desirable.
I think the D was the first and only flagship of the federation? All the other Enterprises were legends, but that title only existed for TNG methinks. Might be mistaken.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
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How the hell does something like that even develop anyway? What, did Terra's Sol never become a class G star and instead became a class M or something?
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Good question. There was some very brief throwaway comment about the light looking different and the Terran eyes adapted to it, but as usual in DSC they never did anything to support it. Someone in chat said something about one of the novels said more about it but I never read any of them so I cannot corroborate that (and depending on novels to compensate for lazy writing in the show itself is inexcusable in my opinion, just like it was for The Force Awakens, but that is something for a different thread).
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Terran_(mirror)
It could very well be that the Mirror Universe as a whole is just not as bright as the Prime Universe.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Dimmer lights on mirror ships is a dumb thing to extrapolate terrans are photosensitive from. Klingons also don't 'squint' on Federation ships.
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Klingons are different from Mirror Terrans, it used to be fanon that their vision was shifted towards red and Roddenberry apparently liked the idea enough to have it put in TMP. Klingon ships don't have dim red lighting to the Klingons, it is bright normal light to them since they can see deeper into the red end of the spectrum than humans can, and Federation standard lighting is a cold bluish light sort of like the old mercury vapor streetlamps look to humans from their point of view.
yes, of course, it is ridiculous and far too much manichaeist. Good and evil are just a perception, and exist at the same time, an universe where an entire people would be evil, is ludicrous. I know that for the writers,The Terran represent the bad in the human race; but in the prime universe, this "bad" still exist in the federation: Burnham is selfish, Stamets same thing, some humans are still greedy etc.
The temporal content is not interesting and from time to time pathetic; even the characters contradict themselves about the temporal mechanic. Star Trek would be more interesting without temporal and mirror stuff, for me it is just laziness based on the canon excuse and a lack of imagination. For this reason, these TV shows will never make it to my top 10 sci-fi shows.
they should get rid of all that is ridiculous once and for all, even if it's canon, the quality of the shows is more important than this so-called legacy.
I think you're taking it a bit too serious. For all we know that is how the Mirror Universe developed.
If you're throwing a fit over the Mirror Universe being somehow darker or with a different wavelength of light or whatever... you'll have an absolute hernia with Fluidic Space.
A physical different universe would give birth to a totally different life form, not humans sensitive to light. Why, they didn't created an universe based on anti-matter? that would have been very interesting (1 episode of TOS is about an anti-matter universe). the writers of the shows should take a look at cosmos: possible worlds, and the other documentary presented by the awesome Neil De Grasse Tyson.
In the 60's, their knowledge of the universe was basic, now in 2021, we have a better knowledge of it; Star Trek should adapt.
Alternatively, the Mirror Terrans build their windows to filter out more light, because that's more comfortable to them.
In the 1960s of Star Trek history the "eugenics program" would have had to be running, almost done developing the gene splicing babbled about in ENT for Khan and the older augments to be adults in the 1990s. At the same time Earth 2 was developing their longevity process. Both were disasters in their own way, the "eugenics" subjects had the aggressiveness and empathy-reduction side effect which eventually led to the Eugenics Wars and WWIII, and Earth 2's process mutated and went viral, turning into a plague that killed all the adults and left the children alive for centuries before Enterprise encountered them (and just by chance the Onlies seemed to avoid sunlight to some degree).
If the Mirror universe really is a mirror, with serendipity driving the same general history as Prime Earth and Earth 2 that means that during their 1960s they must have had something going as well, and maybe whatever it was had results between those of Earth and Earth 2 where whatever the main thing they were trying to do just flopped but they got their aggressiveness kicked up a bit and their empathy lowered a little (neither to the levels the Augments had), and possibly had their senses sharpened a little, causing light sensitivity as a side effect.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
And a few related articles:
https://treknews.net/2021/09/08/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-cast-revealed/
https://trekmovie.com/2021/09/20/interview-akiva-goldsman-on-how-episodic-star-trek-strange-new-worlds-allows-for-classic-twists/
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the new uniforms are really cool. can't wait to see the first episode
Worse yet, the fabric looks like damaged velour instead of the velvet it was supposed to be in TOS but they did not have the budget for (which is how they ended up with the quickly deteriorating velour). Yet another case of looking at clips without researching what the stuff was supposed to be.
I hope it is not a sign that the series is as shallow and haphazard as most of the other CBS Trek is.
On the upside, it looks like they have a really good cast.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
True, though there are common factors with the comfort aspect and the TOS uniforms were designed to address those (or at least in theory anyway, the cheap velour the actual costumes were made of was rather hot and scratchy).
As for getting in the way and restricting movement, the SNW uniforms do just that (though not as bad as the new DSC ones). Just take a look at the stress folds in the shoulders when the cast moves, they are fighting the fabric, and it would bind even more if they put their arms over their heads to work on something overhead. And while that does not seem like a big thing, it can get fatiguing and/or irritating over time.
Also, the felt-like surface does not have the velvet-like knap that was supposed to provide a measure of temperature control (remember, they ran around without jackets in near freezing temperatures without discomfort in at least one episode, and survived even deep arctic temperatures with just the uniform, a blanket, and occasionally heated rocks).
No idea how cooling would be provided, but that might actually be easier to manage, even for extreme temperatures - can't be water-based, though, at least not without the ability to chill the water as it circulates, and can't use any freon or derivative, because while that works, look at how big even modern fridge cooling units are...and I don't think those can get much smaller than that and still be able to do what they do.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
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And holy TRIBBLE, that moon is huge!
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
If our moon was that close many islands would be submerged half the day.
https://www.livescience.com/what-if-moon-closer-to-earth.html
Although it looks like a moon. Itcould be a planet too, assuming there could be “M-class” moons around supermassive planets. A real giant moon could have dangerous tidal and weather patterns hostile to “life as we know it.”
Multiple moons too should make tides less regular than on Earth. That being said there are two dust bodies that orbit Earth that are equal to the mass of small moons.
https://api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/science/article/news-earth-moon-dust-clouds-satellites-planets-space
I am kind of scared to watch Strange New Worlds to be honest. I hope I like it—but it really feels like it is my final hope for the franchise.
But for about half my life we have had Abrahms/Kurtzman Trek, so maybe that means I am not a fan after all. It may be time to admit that I am no longer a Trekker.
No, it won't be perfect. Yes, there will be fun things to debate and argue about. And I can't wait to see it
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