Hey folks!
There's a bug in the C-store, so I want to correct this before people miss out on the sale. The 35% off sale on the bundle lasts until 2/27. The bundle itself is available until 3/9. Thanks!
lots of legendary ships on the field now, will probably take me a few days to finish all the legendary traits 2-3 max
Then i will remove the ships since i only wanted the traits anyhow. 220 isn't bad for 10 new traits and some extra toys to throw around when the release the next lock box.
Hate it all but who cares, i feel the legendary traits alone were worth 22.00 though i probably would have paid 50-75.00 each for 2-3 of them. The rest is just extra storage so meh
I went ahead and bought the bundle.
Ultimately I had to pay 110€ with the Zen charge bonus, so I got even below my calculated 120€. Considering I love the (prime timeline) canon ships and wanted most of the ships stat and spec wise I think it is an okay deal.
The Defiant is an absolute beast for my Tac. Everything I hopped it would be.
My Eng is very happy with the new Sovereign, she is as good as it gets for my build.
The only left out is kinda my Sci… she will be happy with the new trait from the Discovery however.
The 3x XP Bonus on patrols is speeding unlocking up quite a lot.
Hay I love the 10th Aniiversary offer you have but I cannot afford it now I mean almost $200 for it can you do an Extension to End of April or have the Classes either a t6 heavy Cruiser Class Jefferson or have some sort of special Box event for them
Folks, we already have a thread discussing the ships and the bundle. Please stop making new threads. /Merged 2 threads.
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Impressions so far from what I've seen & heard, since I haven't bought it ... yet. The total of 10 ship slots dispersed as 5 account-wide tokens having 2 ship slots each. Cryptic should've announced this prior to the sale, but again I think well done by Cryptic with this delivery.
The best addition are the 10 brand new starship traits that unlock account-wide but even some of those traits are testing to only be marginal.
The Warship Voyager is only a warship by title not by stats & it's new starship trait seems focused on Sector Space travel.
The inclusion of the Advanced Phaser Beam Arrays is a significant improvement for this bundle & boost of potential value. Which unless this unlocks the Disruptor versions for the KDF-aligned too this just gave Fed-aligned a significant advantage.
The visuals I've seen so far for each ship are mostly very impressive while a couple just seem marginally better with not as much effort, but then again it still seems space-barbie had more focus than function imo.
None of the stats are "legendary" they're just different compared to other versions of the ships with a little more stats in some cases & a little less stats in others to balance out the more. The BO seating makes the differences for the ships mostly & not necessarily better just different.
No new consoles is disappointing with many older consoles dare I say some obsolete consoles. Cryptic could've added passives, made them innate abilities, are consolidated older consoles into a new one. That type of innovation would've been impressive & definitely worth my money.
Bummer that the Assault Cruiser's wide-angle torpedo wasn't included. I think I saw 1 of the ships included the Experimental Railgun so that is a nice unexpected bonus!
Reiteration if regarding just stats I don't think any of these ships deserve a "legendary" title compared to their most recent T6 versions. Even fleet versions usually get a +10% improvement & these "legendary" even lack that it seems.
I only have a couple of the older ships/consoles so this bundle still retains much value if I buy it & if one can overlook the big up front cost I think per ship it's a decent value at the sale price. All of this is based off of the Standard not Premium bundle lol.
I dont think if they were to sell this it will be $50 range. You have a ship that would make a Fed 3 pack ship bundle obsolete, thats $60 right there for a ship bundle that would be killed. I think if they sell it as a single... it'll be around $100 at the low end.
Which 3pack would be made obsolete? I would say the Fed pilot escorts are at least on par with the legendary defiant, and that the Allied Andorian Pilot Escorts are superior.
OMG! I just bought the bundle! Can't believe I did this! But it turned out there's a massive Zen sales going on too. So, I was now done for only $150 (with 2200+ Zen to spare). For that price, I just caved. Let's face it, I was willing to pay near $100 for the Defiant alone; if $50 exta got me the full bundle, well, there was no longer saying No to that (short of robbing my own wallet).
so you bought $100 and $50 separately? if so that would of been 19,800 zen total. Sale price of standard bundle is 19,500 zen.
Think again. For the $100 Zen pack, you're getting 11,000 + 3,850 = 14,850 Zen. And for the $50 pack, 5,500 + 1,430. So, 21,780 Zen in total.
ummm that is not what the info saying... $50 is getting you 6,300 (bonus included) zen. $100 nets ya 13,500 zen, again that's bonus included. $1 = 100 zen is normal price, you normally also get a bonus at certain tiers levels, that bonus is increased.
$10 =s 1,150z including bonus for +15% ... $20 =s 2,400z including bonus for +20% ... $50 =s 6,300z including bonus for +26% ... $100 =s 13,500z including bonus for +35% ... & $200 =s 28,000z including bonus for +40%
So far I've been enjoying all the ships in the pack. The Glenn is surprisingly fun, though I'm disappointed by warship voyager(seriously? Engi focused instead of tac?) But overall I've used most of the ships in the pack and I'm loving them.
OMG! I just bought the bundle! Can't believe I did this! But it turned out there's a massive Zen sales going on too. So, I was now done for only $150 (with 2200+ Zen to spare). For that price, I just caved. Let's face it, I was willing to pay near $100 for the Defiant alone; if $50 exta got me the full bundle, well, there was no longer saying No to that (short of robbing my own wallet).
so you bought $100 and $50 separately? if so that would of been 19,800 zen total. Sale price of standard bundle is 19,500 zen.
Think again. For the $100 Zen pack, you're getting 11,000 + 3,850 = 14,850 Zen. And for the $50 pack, 5,500 + 1,430. So, 21,780 Zen in total.
ummm that is not what the info saying... $50 is getting you 6,300 (bonus included) zen. $100 nets ya 13,500 zen, again that's bonus included. $1 = 100 zen is normal price, you normally also get a bonus at certain tiers levels, that bonus is increased.
$10 =s 1,150z including bonus for +15% ... $20 =s 2,400z including bonus for +20% ... $50 =s 6,300z including bonus for +26% ... $100 =s 13,500z including bonus for +35% ... & $200 =s 28,000z including bonus for +40%
Bonus I got was at the $200 tier. instead of 20,000 zen I got 28,000 zen. 40% bonus. Regular would of been 3,000 or 15%. This is US, also no sales tax. $200 only.
The Warship Voyager is only a warship by title not by stats & it's new starship trait seems focused on Sector Space travel.
The ship is a "Miracle Worker Multi-Mission Science Vessel", so it's not even a warship by title.
Warship Voyager is just a cosmetic skin you can apply to any model Intrepid, for people who want the look.
I dont think if they were to sell this it will be $50 range. You have a ship that would make a Fed 3 pack ship bundle obsolete, thats $60 right there for a ship bundle that would be killed. I think if they sell it as a single... it'll be around $100 at the low end.
Which 3pack would be made obsolete? I would say the Fed pilot escorts are at least on par with the legendary defiant, and that the Allied Andorian Pilot Escorts are superior.
That would be the Federation Flagship 3-pack bundle (the T6 Odyssey). It's part of the 9-ship cross faction flagship mega bundle (the one with the T6 scimitar).
OMG! I just bought the bundle! Can't believe I did this! But it turned out there's a massive Zen sales going on too. So, I was now done for only $150 (with 2200+ Zen to spare). For that price, I just caved. Let's face it, I was willing to pay near $100 for the Defiant alone; if $50 exta got me the full bundle, well, there was no longer saying No to that (short of robbing my own wallet).
so you bought $100 and $50 separately? if so that would of been 19,800 zen total. Sale price of standard bundle is 19,500 zen.
Think again. For the $100 Zen pack, you're getting 11,000 + 3,850 = 14,850 Zen. And for the $50 pack, 5,500 + 1,430. So, 21,780 Zen in total.
ummm that is not what the info saying... $50 is getting you 6,300 (bonus included) zen. $100 nets ya 13,500 zen, again that's bonus included. $1 = 100 zen is normal price, you normally also get a bonus at certain tiers levels, that bonus is increased.
Info, sminfo. You've been Looking For Zen In All The Wrong Places. In-game Arc charge page is where it's at.
The Warship Voyager is only a warship by title not by stats & it's new starship trait seems focused on Sector Space travel.
Warship Voyager is just a cosmetic skin you can apply to any model Intrepid, for people who want the look.
What good is the look without the appropriate teeth to back it up? I've always loved the design, but I just can't bring myself to use it without stats that match the look, so I'll be sticking with my Bellerophon / Pathfinder kitbash instead
That would be the Federation Flagship 3-pack bundle (the T6 Odyssey). It's part of the 9-ship cross faction flagship mega bundle (the one with the T6 scimitar).
The Legendary Bundle doesn't obsolete any ship in the game. The Odyssey had it's challenges before this pack and they remain afterward as well. Yes, the Legendary Odyssey is better then the T6 Flagships, but only by a slight bit and it's locked behind a $200-$300 paywall meaning the Odyssey still has a place. The T6 Odyssey is still one of your better beam boat cruisers, it won't set any records but it's far from a bad ship and it comes with a nice and useful console set. It also has some useful traits and is cosmetically very pleasing.
The cost of the Legendary Bundle means that nothing has been rendered obsolete. I would argue that the best upgrade has been to the Defiant but even that doesn't obsolete the C-Store Defiant because that was put out to pasture years ago by the Pilot Escorts. You can't kill something that's already dead.
I do know one thing.. I know that these ships will never be sold separately now..
Why do I say this?
I believe they would only break up the pack if they needed to boost sales and that is absolutely not going to happen. Flying around for a couple hours today I can tell this pack is selling like crazy.. these ships are everywhere. Everyone that complained about the cost and swore they would never buy anything else just did exactly what I thought and bought the pack anyway. Why would Cryptic ever offer a lower cost solution when they're making this much money?
While I am not interested in this bundle.. I think it's fantastic! I can keep enjoying the game for free while others just pour money into the game and ensure that Cryptic continues it's development. The only thing that decides rather this pack is a good value or not is player interest and the players seem to have spoken.. they think it's great..
The people buying the pack win..
Cryptic Wins..
Those of us not paying win..
It's all working out. Good job Cryptic.. I didn't think this would sell but you have proved me wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt. I am shocked at how many 'Legendary' ships I have seen in game today.
Too much money for me, if you sold them separately in the future I might buy one or two but for the cost no thanks.
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With luck they will have individual ships available. I know I'd grind out the Zen for a couple. Mostly the Connies and the NX, but eventually I'd probably get all of them over time.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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OMG! I just bought the bundle! Can't believe I did this! But it turned out there's a massive Zen sales going on too. So, I was now done for only $150 (with 2200+ Zen to spare). For that price, I just caved. Let's face it, I was willing to pay near $100 for the Defiant alone; if $50 exta got me the full bundle, well, there was no longer saying No to that (short of robbing my own wallet).
For the $100 Zen pack, you're getting 11,000 + 3,850 = 14,850 Zen. And for the $50 pack, 5,500 + 1,430. So, 21,780 Zen in total.
You've been Looking For Zen In All The Wrong Places. In-game Arc charge page is where it's at.
Something isn't adding up here (for me at least).
I've checked the current Zen sale info web page.
I've been on the (out of game) Arc charge web page all the way up to the "confirm purchase" point for both $100 and $50.
I've also used the in-game Zen Store "Buy Zen" button which takes me to what looks like the same out of game Arc charge web page.
I even signed into the game using ARC (a rare thing for me) (nothing evil happened except for getting a free uniform) and tried the entire transaction within the ARC application again right up until the confirm purchase button.
Unless something magical happens *after* hitting that confirm button...
$100 = 13,500 Zen, $50 = 6300 Zen for a total of 19,800 Zen.
With full respect to your always intelligent, creative, and well thought out posts, is it possible your new ships have somehow clouded your figures via the endorphin rush they're providing? Or have I missed something?
One can't have incorrect figures hanging about in a thread like this
p.s. if I get the pack I'll be using the same emoticon so at least we're on the same page there... (hope you're enjoying your new ships)
> @protoneous said: > (Quote) > (Quote) > (Quote) > > Something isn't adding up here (for me at least). > > I've checked the current Zen sale info web page. > > I've been on the (out of game) Arc charge web page all the way up to the "confirm purchase" point for both $100 and $50. > > I've also used the in-game Zen Store "Buy Zen" button which takes me to what looks like the same out of game Arc charge web page. > > I even signed into the game using ARC (a rare thing for me) (nothing evil happened except for getting a free uniform) and tried the entire transaction within the ARC application again right up until the confirm purchase button. > > Unless something magical happens *after* hitting that confirm button... > > $100 = 13,500 Zen, $50 = 6300 Zen for a total of 19,800 Zen. > > With full respect to your always intelligent, creative, and well thought out posts, is it possible your new ships have somehow clouded your figures via the endorphin rush they're providing? Or have I missed something? > > One can't have incorrect figures hanging about in a thread like this > > p.s. if I get the pack I'll be using the same emoticon so at least we're on the same page there... (hope you're enjoying your new ships)
The standard pack is 19500 zen while on sale. 19800 zen is enough to purchase it. Just barely
That would be the Federation Flagship 3-pack bundle (the T6 Odyssey). It's part of the 9-ship cross faction flagship mega bundle (the one with the T6 scimitar).
The Legendary Bundle doesn't obsolete any ship in the game. The Odyssey had it's challenges before this pack and they remain afterward as well. Yes, the Legendary Odyssey is better then the T6 Flagships, but only by a slight bit and it's locked behind a $200-$300 paywall meaning the Odyssey still has a place. The T6 Odyssey is still one of your better beam boat cruisers, it won't set any records but it's far from a bad ship and it comes with a nice and useful console set. It also has some useful traits and is cosmetically very pleasing.
The cost of the Legendary Bundle means that nothing has been rendered obsolete. I would argue that the best upgrade has been to the Defiant but even that doesn't obsolete the C-Store Defiant because that was put out to pasture years ago by the Pilot Escorts. You can't kill something that's already dead.
I do know one thing.. I know that these ships will never be sold separately now..
Why do I say this?
I believe they would only break up the pack if they needed to boost sales and that is absolutely not going to happen. Flying around for a couple hours today I can tell this pack is selling like crazy.. these ships are everywhere. Everyone that complained about the cost and swore they would never buy anything else just did exactly what I thought and bought the pack anyway. Why would Cryptic ever offer a lower cost solution when they're making this much money?
While I am not interested in this bundle.. I think it's fantastic! I can keep enjoying the game for free while others just pour money into the game and ensure that Cryptic continues it's development. The only thing that decides rather this pack is a good value or not is player interest and the players seem to have spoken.. they think it's great..
The people buying the pack win..
Cryptic Wins..
Those of us not paying win..
It's all working out. Good job Cryptic.. I didn't think this would sell but you have proved me wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt. I am shocked at how many 'Legendary' ships I have seen in game today.
Next time, make it $400.. you'll get it.
I was merely replying to a question that was asked.
That said, I currently do not own the flagship bundle. Now I don't need to. I did get the legendary bundle, so since I now have the consoles, and traits from a single ship, I don't need to fly 3. Now, I can just get one Scimitar, and maybe the Bortasq'u 3-pack, and now I effectively have the whole set for all I care about.
Sure, it doesn't replace it entirely for everyone, but for some people it certainly does.
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Then i will remove the ships since i only wanted the traits anyhow. 220 isn't bad for 10 new traits and some extra toys to throw around when the release the next lock box.
Hate it all but who cares, i feel the legendary traits alone were worth 22.00 though i probably would have paid 50-75.00 each for 2-3 of them. The rest is just extra storage so meh
It was also mentioned that the ships will return over time and the bundle might also return after a while after the ships have returned.
Ultimately I had to pay 110€ with the Zen charge bonus, so I got even below my calculated 120€. Considering I love the (prime timeline) canon ships and wanted most of the ships stat and spec wise I think it is an okay deal.
The Defiant is an absolute beast for my Tac. Everything I hopped it would be.
My Eng is very happy with the new Sovereign, she is as good as it gets for my build.
The only left out is kinda my Sci… she will be happy with the new trait from the Discovery however.
The 3x XP Bonus on patrols is speeding unlocking up quite a lot.
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I do have the money but will not waste it just for one ship.
Original STO beta tester.
The best addition are the 10 brand new starship traits that unlock account-wide but even some of those traits are testing to only be marginal.
The Warship Voyager is only a warship by title not by stats & it's new starship trait seems focused on Sector Space travel.
The inclusion of the Advanced Phaser Beam Arrays is a significant improvement for this bundle & boost of potential value. Which unless this unlocks the Disruptor versions for the KDF-aligned too this just gave Fed-aligned a significant advantage.
The visuals I've seen so far for each ship are mostly very impressive while a couple just seem marginally better with not as much effort, but then again it still seems space-barbie had more focus than function imo.
None of the stats are "legendary" they're just different compared to other versions of the ships with a little more stats in some cases & a little less stats in others to balance out the more. The BO seating makes the differences for the ships mostly & not necessarily better just different.
No new consoles is disappointing with many older consoles dare I say some obsolete consoles. Cryptic could've added passives, made them innate abilities, are consolidated older consoles into a new one. That type of innovation would've been impressive & definitely worth my money.
Bummer that the Assault Cruiser's wide-angle torpedo wasn't included. I think I saw 1 of the ships included the Experimental Railgun so that is a nice unexpected bonus!
Reiteration if regarding just stats I don't think any of these ships deserve a "legendary" title compared to their most recent T6 versions. Even fleet versions usually get a +10% improvement & these "legendary" even lack that it seems.
I only have a couple of the older ships/consoles so this bundle still retains much value if I buy it & if one can overlook the big up front cost I think per ship it's a decent value at the sale price. All of this is based off of the Standard not Premium bundle lol.
Which 3pack would be made obsolete? I would say the Fed pilot escorts are at least on par with the legendary defiant, and that the Allied Andorian Pilot Escorts are superior.
$10 =s 1,150z including bonus for +15% ... $20 =s 2,400z including bonus for +20% ... $50 =s 6,300z including bonus for +26% ... $100 =s 13,500z including bonus for +35% ... & $200 =s 28,000z including bonus for +40%
Always be happy about the people who do spend money on this game.
Without them there would not be a game. This game you would not play without money spenders.
And laugh at the Feddies when you can get the consoles and traits from fed only ships for next to nothing!
Bonus I got was at the $200 tier. instead of 20,000 zen I got 28,000 zen. 40% bonus. Regular would of been 3,000 or 15%. This is US, also no sales tax. $200 only.
The ship is a "Miracle Worker Multi-Mission Science Vessel", so it's not even a warship by title.
Warship Voyager is just a cosmetic skin you can apply to any model Intrepid, for people who want the look.
EDIT:
That would be the Federation Flagship 3-pack bundle (the T6 Odyssey). It's part of the 9-ship cross faction flagship mega bundle (the one with the T6 scimitar).
Info, sminfo.
What good is the look without the appropriate teeth to back it up? I've always loved the design, but I just can't bring myself to use it without stats that match the look, so I'll be sticking with my Bellerophon / Pathfinder kitbash instead
The Legendary Bundle doesn't obsolete any ship in the game. The Odyssey had it's challenges before this pack and they remain afterward as well. Yes, the Legendary Odyssey is better then the T6 Flagships, but only by a slight bit and it's locked behind a $200-$300 paywall meaning the Odyssey still has a place. The T6 Odyssey is still one of your better beam boat cruisers, it won't set any records but it's far from a bad ship and it comes with a nice and useful console set. It also has some useful traits and is cosmetically very pleasing.
The cost of the Legendary Bundle means that nothing has been rendered obsolete. I would argue that the best upgrade has been to the Defiant but even that doesn't obsolete the C-Store Defiant because that was put out to pasture years ago by the Pilot Escorts. You can't kill something that's already dead.
I do know one thing.. I know that these ships will never be sold separately now..
Why do I say this?
I believe they would only break up the pack if they needed to boost sales and that is absolutely not going to happen. Flying around for a couple hours today I can tell this pack is selling like crazy.. these ships are everywhere. Everyone that complained about the cost and swore they would never buy anything else just did exactly what I thought and bought the pack anyway. Why would Cryptic ever offer a lower cost solution when they're making this much money?
While I am not interested in this bundle.. I think it's fantastic! I can keep enjoying the game for free while others just pour money into the game and ensure that Cryptic continues it's development. The only thing that decides rather this pack is a good value or not is player interest and the players seem to have spoken.. they think it's great..
The people buying the pack win..
Cryptic Wins..
Those of us not paying win..
It's all working out. Good job Cryptic.. I didn't think this would sell but you have proved me wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt. I am shocked at how many 'Legendary' ships I have seen in game today.
Next time, make it $400.. you'll get it.
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Something isn't adding up here (for me at least).
I've checked the current Zen sale info web page.
I've been on the (out of game) Arc charge web page all the way up to the "confirm purchase" point for both $100 and $50.
I've also used the in-game Zen Store "Buy Zen" button which takes me to what looks like the same out of game Arc charge web page.
I even signed into the game using ARC (a rare thing for me) (nothing evil happened except for getting a free uniform) and tried the entire transaction within the ARC application again right up until the confirm purchase button.
Unless something magical happens *after* hitting that confirm button...
$100 = 13,500 Zen, $50 = 6300 Zen for a total of 19,800 Zen.
With full respect to your always intelligent, creative, and well thought out posts, is it possible your new ships have somehow clouded your figures via the endorphin rush they're providing? Or have I missed something?
One can't have incorrect figures hanging about in a thread like this
p.s. if I get the pack I'll be using the same emoticon
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> Something isn't adding up here (for me at least).
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> I've checked the current Zen sale info web page.
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> I've been on the (out of game) Arc charge web page all the way up to the "confirm purchase" point for both $100 and $50.
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> I've also used the in-game Zen Store "Buy Zen" button which takes me to what looks like the same out of game Arc charge web page.
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> I even signed into the game using ARC (a rare thing for me) (nothing evil happened except for getting a free uniform) and tried the entire transaction within the ARC application again right up until the confirm purchase button.
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> Unless something magical happens *after* hitting that confirm button...
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> $100 = 13,500 Zen, $50 = 6300 Zen for a total of 19,800 Zen.
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> With full respect to your always intelligent, creative, and well thought out posts, is it possible your new ships have somehow clouded your figures via the endorphin rush they're providing? Or have I missed something?
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> One can't have incorrect figures hanging about in a thread like this
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> p.s. if I get the pack I'll be using the same emoticon
The standard pack is 19500 zen while on sale. 19800 zen is enough to purchase it. Just barely
I was merely replying to a question that was asked.
That said, I currently do not own the flagship bundle. Now I don't need to. I did get the legendary bundle, so since I now have the consoles, and traits from a single ship, I don't need to fly 3. Now, I can just get one Scimitar, and maybe the Bortasq'u 3-pack, and now I effectively have the whole set for all I care about.
Sure, it doesn't replace it entirely for everyone, but for some people it certainly does.