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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    My understanding is this:

    1) the first episode will premier on cable TV.

    2) each new episode will have it's first/premier release on CBS All Access, then be "replayed" later on cable TV.

    Summary: if you want to see it first, you have to subscribe. If not, you can wait and see it later on cable TV.

    I don't think it will be replayed later on Cable TV
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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    khan5000 wrote: »
    My understanding is this:

    1) the first episode will premier on cable TV.

    2) each new episode will have it's first/premier release on CBS All Access, then be "replayed" later on cable TV.

    Summary: if you want to see it first, you have to subscribe. If not, you can wait and see it later on cable TV.

    I don't think it will be replayed later on Cable TV

    Here is why I disagree:
    CBS Television Studios announced today it will launch a totally new Star Trek television series in January 2017. The new series will blast off with a special preview broadcast on the CBS Television Network. The premiere episode and all subsequent first-run episodes will then be available exclusively in the United States on CBS All Access, the Network’s digital subscription video on demand and live streaming service.

    Do you know what "first run" syndication is? If not,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_syndication#Types_of_syndication

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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    khan5000 wrote: »
    My understanding is this:

    1) the first episode will premier on cable TV.

    2) each new episode will have it's first/premier release on CBS All Access, then be "replayed" later on cable TV.

    Summary: if you want to see it first, you have to subscribe. If not, you can wait and see it later on cable TV.

    I don't think it will be replayed later on Cable TV

    Here is why I disagree:
    CBS Television Studios announced today it will launch a totally new Star Trek television series in January 2017. The new series will blast off with a special preview broadcast on the CBS Television Network. The premiere episode and all subsequent first-run episodes will then be available exclusively in the United States on CBS All Access, the Network’s digital subscription video on demand and live streaming service.

    Do you know what "first run" syndication is? If not,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_syndication#Types_of_syndication

    I also know what the word "Exclusively" means
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    velqua wrote: »
    Just saw the announcement. Not sure how it's going to go, but there is a list of 14 possible captains for the new ship. Out of the 14 I saw, I see one that definitely deserves to be in the chair: Gina Torres.


    I'd watch that.
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  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    I am hoping that it will be set in the prime verse. They possibly explore Andromeda galaxy and other areas. It will continue the story and have the previous crew or at least some of them make an apperance. Since we know only that it will be not related to Star Trek Beyond it could go either way, still be set in the Alternate universe with a new crew. I hope they will change thier mind on showing only the first episode on TV and the rest on TV downloading, instead they will show all of it on TV and in other countries and not just in the USA.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    I'm immensely looking forward to this... And not just to watch the tears of little fanboys who will hate any new Trek without even bothering to watch it first.

    It might not even be an AR series, but I do look forward to seeing what ridiculous leaps of logic they'll come up with to hate it.​​
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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    khan5000 wrote: »
    khan5000 wrote: »
    My understanding is this:

    1) the first episode will premier on cable TV.

    2) each new episode will have it's first/premier release on CBS All Access, then be "replayed" later on cable TV.

    Summary: if you want to see it first, you have to subscribe. If not, you can wait and see it later on cable TV.

    I don't think it will be replayed later on Cable TV

    Here is why I disagree:
    CBS Television Studios announced today it will launch a totally new Star Trek television series in January 2017. The new series will blast off with a special preview broadcast on the CBS Television Network. The premiere episode and all subsequent first-run episodes will then be available exclusively in the United States on CBS All Access, the Network’s digital subscription video on demand and live streaming service.

    Do you know what "first run" syndication is? If not,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_syndication#Types_of_syndication

    I also know what the word "Exclusively" means

    Good. Now put them together and see if you can figure out what it means.

    If you cant, here it is: The first run is exclusive. Re-runs are not. My guess is there will probably be a 1 episode delay between All Access and cable.

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,698 Community Moderator
    Ok... why are people already bashing it before we even see anything?
    "Oh! This guy is doing it? Forget that! I'll go watch TOS."

    Its this kind of attitude that drives me nuts. We finally get something new, and its already getting ripped to shreds based on the executive producer without knowing ANYTHING about it AT ALL! Its the same attitude that predicts the end of Star Wars just because JJ Abrams is involved, and when that was announced we knew nothing of the movie other than its coming and who's involved.

    Can people just chill out and wait to see how it turns out? Judge a show on its merits WHEN IT AIRS, not its Producer before it airs. Enterprise had its good points, and so did Voyager. Lets see what the new show brings before crying doom.

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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    Oh and I'll pick on this reply as well...
    Alex Kurtzman = another nail in the Star Trek coffin.

    Hahahahahahahahahaha...

    No. Revitalising a series and bringing it back to TV is not putting the nail in anything. Grow up. Don't like it? Go watch your TOS blue-rays.​​
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

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    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Ok... why are people already bashing it before we even see anything?

    What, is this your first time on the internet or something? To expect anything else is the height of naivety.

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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Ok... why are people already bashing it before we even see anything?
    "Oh! This guy is doing it? Forget that! I'll go watch TOS."

    Its this kind of attitude that drives me nuts. We finally get something new, and its already getting ripped to shreds based on the executive producer without knowing ANYTHING about it AT ALL! Its the same attitude that predicts the end of Star Wars just because JJ Abrams is involved, and when that was announced we knew nothing of the movie other than its coming and who's involved.

    Can people just chill out and wait to see how it turns out? Judge a show on its merits WHEN IT AIRS, not its Producer before it airs. Enterprise had its good points, and so did Voyager. Lets see what the new show brings before crying doom.

    [/soapbox]

    This is so true. People are finding ways to hate this without even knowing what it's about. So what if Kurtzman is involved? Movies are not made by one person...they are made by committee. We could find out it was JJ and Orci that injected the movies with the stuff people don't like. We could even find out that Paramount gave them an edict to make it that way.
    We don't know what this series will be like. We don't know CBS's demands on the show.
    The only real negative I could see is that you may or may not have to pay $6.00 a month to see it.

    This reminds me of the remarks heard people making when Star Trek The Next Generation was first announced
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  • captainchaos66captainchaos66 Member Posts: 409 Arc User

    While I was utterly overjoyed when I heard this announcement on the local Talk Radio Station of all things, I have to say im a bit disappointed about the " CBS-Streaming" thing. $5.99 a month may not seem like a lot to them, however I have will need many questions answered before I decide to buy into it.
    Some of them are: Will I be able to watch on my " big" tv. I stream Netflix and Amazon Prime through my Xbox and 90% of shows are in GOOD HD so I'm happy with both of them. If this CBS version cant be watched through either Xbox, or Chromecast then I will likely not buy in because I don't want to watch TV on my Computer, or some 7" tablet thing.
    2) Will it have commercials? Almost EVERYTHING that is " free" on the VOD service through my cable company has commercials in it. Started about a year ago. They cant be fast forwarded,, and there are just as many as if I watched the show live. THATS STUPID! I will NOT pay 6$ a month to watch a show that has commercials! I pay for WAY to much for cable TV and it has WAY TO MANY commercials.. why would I pay MORE for the same darn thing!
    3) I'm not a huge fan of Kurtzman because he's been involved in writing some horrible movies, however I blame Orci for the horribility MORE the Kurtzman,, perhaps its the other way around but whatever. I would, however, not that Kurtzman is attached to PRODUCE, and they are looking for a writer. I personally think they should hire some of the writers that have done Star Trek Novels. Peter David is my favorite, but there are MANY MANY GREAT Trek novel authors out today. In all honesty they could have 7 seasons of shows just based on the novels. Imagine the " A time too..." Series on TV. The books take place between insurrection and Nemesis and are TNG crew based, however it would take much to tweak the stories for a fresh crew. Or the " NEW EARTH" series of books adapted for the screen would make a GREAT 9-10 episode arc.
    As with everything nowadays I will be cautiously optimistic about it until the day it finally arrives. I will go in with an open mind, not expecting TOO much, but not expecting to be disappointed either. I hope the heads at CBS know this may be the LAST chance they have to revive Trek on the small screen. Guess we wont know for 14 months or so...
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  • gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    I'm assuming that means it is NOT in the JJ-verse at all, since they said "not related".
    Yet Kurtzman cowrote STID. I remain skeptical until I hear more details.

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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    I'm assuming that means it is NOT in the JJ-verse at all, since they said "not related".
    Yet Kurtzman cowrote STID. I remain skeptical until I hear more details.

    Yes he did. And he also parted ways with them and is not working on the new movie at all.

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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    While I was utterly overjoyed when I heard this announcement on the local Talk Radio Station of all things, I have to say im a bit disappointed about the " CBS-Streaming" thing. $5.99 a month may not seem like a lot to them, however I have will need many questions answered before I decide to buy into it.
    Some of them are: Will I be able to watch on my " big" tv. I stream Netflix and Amazon Prime through my Xbox and 90% of shows are in GOOD HD so I'm happy with both of them. If this CBS version cant be watched through either Xbox, or Chromecast then I will likely not buy in because I don't want to watch TV on my Computer, or some 7" tablet thing.
    2) Will it have commercials? Almost EVERYTHING that is " free" on the VOD service through my cable company has commercials in it. Started about a year ago. They cant be fast forwarded,, and there are just as many as if I watched the show live. THATS STUPID! I will NOT pay 6$ a month to watch a show that has commercials! I pay for WAY to much for cable TV and it has WAY TO MANY commercials.. why would I pay MORE for the same darn thing!
    3) I'm not a huge fan of Kurtzman because he's been involved in writing some horrible movies, however I blame Orci for the horribility MORE the Kurtzman,, perhaps its the other way around but whatever. I would, however, not that Kurtzman is attached to PRODUCE, and they are looking for a writer. I personally think they should hire some of the writers that have done Star Trek Novels. Peter David is my favorite, but there are MANY MANY GREAT Trek novel authors out today. In all honesty they could have 7 seasons of shows just based on the novels. Imagine the " A time too..." Series on TV. The books take place between insurrection and Nemesis and are TNG crew based, however it would take much to tweak the stories for a fresh crew. Or the " NEW EARTH" series of books adapted for the screen would make a GREAT 9-10 episode arc.
    As with everything nowadays I will be cautiously optimistic about it until the day it finally arrives. I will go in with an open mind, not expecting TOO much, but not expecting to be disappointed either. I hope the heads at CBS know this may be the LAST chance they have to revive Trek on the small screen. Guess we wont know for 14 months or so...

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  • gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    bunansa wrote: »
    ...lets not forget it will be just in time for the 50th anniversary in 2017.....I think someone has math issues 1966 - 2017 is....51..
    Star Trek premiered on 9/8/66. Jan 2017 is 50 years + 4 months later; still in the 50th anniversary year.

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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    starswordc wrote: »
    velqua wrote: »
    Just saw the announcement. Not sure how it's going to go, but there is a list of 14 possible captains for the new ship. Out of the 14 I saw, I see one that definitely deserves to be in the chair: Gina Torres.


    I'd watch that.

    Absolutely.
    But it looks like it's just a press/fan-made speculation/suggestion on who could be candidates, not anything official.
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  • gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    IMO CBS would be foolish to make this paygated, streaming-only. That's not the way to attract new viewership.
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    apulse wrote: »
    This is really ridiculous. We have cried out for a new tv show of Star Trek, and now when it is confirmed, you dizz it because Alex Kurtzman is attached?

    You did see the JJ Trek films, right?​​

    Yeah, I did. And unlike some people I think that they have problems but are NOT all bad. Oh, and I saw ST2009 with the live orchestra earlier this year. AND I just got confirmation I have tickets to Into Darkness with a live orchestra too, for next year. (Please please please please play "Ode to Harrison" and not just the movie...) STID has one of the two scores I consider contenders for best ever to grace the Star Trek franchise. So it's JJverse. I don't care. If anyone doesn't like my thoughts on that, they can get over it. ;)

    Now, I REALLY hope CBS will do a deal with Amazon Prime to allow the series to be available there, though I fear they won't given that they're trying to launch their own streaming service.

    I only have Amazon Prime (which thankfully comes with OTHER benefits besides just streaming), and cable, but before this happens I think I'm going to try haggling with the cable company to reduce my bill. I've seen other people in my area do that successfully before, so I may be able to pull it off as well...

    That said, if they are going to RE-AIR the episodes later on regular TV, that might be a good deal assuming people are courteous about spoiler posting. (Still gonna try to haggle with the cable company regardless. ;) )

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  • uryenserellonturyenserellont Member Posts: 858 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    IMO CBS would be foolish to make this paygated, streaming-only. That's not the way to attract new viewership.

    and yet that's what they're doing. They're banking on rabid fans paying subscriptions.

    I already pay a subscription for TV: it's called "cable" (+ HBO for Game Of Thrones). I don't pay for netflix or hulu or amazon prime or anything like that.

    I feel if they were truly confident about this series they'd add it to their regular prime time lineup. Or maybe I'm just too old fashioned.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    IMO CBS would be foolish to make this paygated, streaming-only. That's not the way to attract new viewership.
    Oh, I think it will attract quite a few people.

    An interesting plus of their streaming service seems to be that they will offer it (almost?) world-wide at the same time. If they can manage that, they would have a notable leg-up compared to many other services, who often have regional different offerings due to licensing rights. That sucks in today's world, because people want to see stuff when it is first shown, not months or years later, especially if the online community has already started sharing reviews and dissecting shows. Of course, US Americans might not really be aware of these problems, because they are usually the ones that see stuff first anyway. But the US is just one market.

    Of course, too many streaming services also suck, because you can't afford to subscribe to all of them, especially if you want to watch only one show in the service's portfolio.

    But it's "only" a first-run exclusive, apparently, so the streaming service won't be a barrier to entry, just a delay.

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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    I currently only have Netflix and will base my subscribing to the show on the pilot
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  • sovereign47sovereign47 Member Posts: 399 Arc User
    This is great news. I just hope that this new show will be set in the prime universe in post Nemesis era. And it would be also nice if the ship they'll be using would be Sovereign class B)
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    IMO CBS would be foolish to make this paygated, streaming-only. That's not the way to attract new viewership.
    Oh, I think it will attract quite a few people.

    An interesting plus of their streaming service seems to be that they will offer it (almost?) world-wide at the same time. If they can manage that, they would have a notable leg-up compared to many other services, who often have regional different offerings due to licensing rights. That sucks in today's world, because people want to see stuff when it is first shown, not months or years later, especially if the online community has already started sharing reviews and dissecting shows. Of course, US Americans might not really be aware of these problems, because they are usually the ones that see stuff first anyway. But the US is just one market.

    Of course, too many streaming services also suck, because you can't afford to subscribe to all of them, especially if you want to watch only one show in the service's portfolio.

    But it's "only" a first-run exclusive, apparently, so the streaming service won't be a barrier to entry, just a delay.

    I think this will be the future of "TV". Netflix has shown up the networks and a lot of them will start to mimic their way of doing things.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited November 2015
    gulberat wrote: »
    Yeah, I did. And unlike some people I think that they have problems but are NOT all bad. Oh, and I saw ST2009 with the live orchestra earlier this year. AND I just got confirmation I have tickets to Into Darkness with a live orchestra too, for next year. (Please please please please play "Ode to Harrison" and not just the movie...) STID has one of the two scores I consider contenders for best ever to grace the Star Trek franchise.

    @gulberat
    Where did you see that? I've always wanted to see a film with an orchestra in the cinema but I'd need to see one with a fantastic score. I might have a look to see if anyone is doing ID in England.​​
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  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,769 Arc User
    gulberat wrote: »
    Oh, and I saw ST2009 with the live orchestra earlier this year.

    I did this too. It was pretty awesome.

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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    artan42 wrote: »
    gulberat wrote: »
    Yeah, I did. And unlike some people I think that they have problems but are NOT all bad. Oh, and I saw ST2009 with the live orchestra earlier this year. AND I just got confirmation I have tickets to Into Darkness with a live orchestra too, for next year. (Please please please please play "Ode to Harrison" and not just the movie...) STID has one of the two scores I consider contenders for best ever to grace the Star Trek franchise.

    Where did you see that? I've always wanted to see a film with an orchestra in the cinema but I'd need to see one with a fantastic score. I might have a look to see if anyone is doing ID in England.​​

    It's been playing in several US venues. Seems that each is a separate "tour," although the conductor of our local orchestra was the one to do it.

    I tried the Star Trek Concerts site but they aren't up to date as the show we just got confirmation on from the local orchestra.

    Our orchestra was incredibly nice...when they added STID to their schedule, the venue personally called everyone who attended the first concert because it was so successful, not just emailed. Right now the StarTrekConcerts site is only showing US and Canada dates. You may do better calling your local orchestra venues to see if they are going to do STID. That's the only reason I found out the new concert date had been added at our orchestra, because they reached out to my family (and all the others) themselves.

    I can tell you ST2009 was great in concert as well, even though I consider STID's score to be better. At everything. :D;)

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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    Matt Bomer is an interesting choice.
    He's certainly got the "Kirk-Look" down pat.
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    I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
    Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
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