Let's jus say I'm very much angry at the Reciprocity trait being lockboxed.
Yes, on one side KDF and Romulans are getting this OP trait. (That's pretty much what I've always wanted.) But on the other hand it being a lockbox item means I'll never get it.
How do you figure you'll never get it? Do you have a plasmonic leech? That was available on a KDF ship, Fed side had to open a lock box to get it or, buy it on exchange. This go around, Feds get reciprocity on a ship (more expensive ship), and KDF can get it via a lockbox or... more than likely, from the exchange. Seems pretty consistent to me. Or maybe they should just give you everything you want without having to earn it in any way.
Another way they knocked me out of it. They don't offer a lower ship either. I usually get some of those as well. Like the APU and Malon. So there went that as well. Oh well, hope the next box has better offerings.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Another way they knocked me out of it. They don't offer a lower ship either. I usually get some of those as well. Like the APU and Malon. So there went that as well. Oh well, hope the next box has better offerings.
"In addition to these two fine vessels, the Nihydron Destroyer can also be obtained from this Lock Box. As a Tier 5 starship, this vessel maintains the capability of equipping both consoles from the other Coalition starships. This ship may also be upgraded to T5-U with the use of a Starship Upgrade Requisition."
So, yeah, there is one of those in this box, too.
This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
Having read the blog and, most importantly, the descriptions of the traits named 'Taking you with me' and 'Blaze of Glory', I am left with the distinct impression that the devs have decided the best approach to dealing with power creep is to help it along. Temp auto res, increased damage, and totally immunity.... Can you get any more ridiculous?
Yeah but to use it you need to DIE which means weaker folks should benefit more.
Hmmm. Sounds like a great equalizer; in reality, though, it will probably just benefit high-DPS folks most, who will forego even more on things like structural integrity and resists, so as to do even moar DPS. Voth Reflection? Take it! Then finish the Citadel off with your few seconds of ressurection god-mode.
I imagine it will be good for PvP, though: vape, and be subsequently vaped in return!
Another way they knocked me out of it. They don't offer a lower ship either. I usually get some of those as well. Like the APU and Malon. So there went that as well. Oh well, hope the next box has better offerings.
"In addition to these two fine vessels, the Nihydron Destroyer can also be obtained from this Lock Box. As a Tier 5 starship, this vessel maintains the capability of equipping both consoles from the other Coalition starships. This ship may also be upgraded to T5-U with the use of a Starship Upgrade Requisition."
So, yeah, there is one of those in this box, too.
Ok thanks, I somehow missed that part on reading it. I looked up the ship to see what it looked like. I'm not fully decided if I will get it.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
In Part Two, we reset the timeline and take away all of the prizes you won from the first Lock Box.
(I kid, I kid!)
Ah. The old Deux Machina Lockbox. I like it.
Just remember that will only work if we turn off our Temporal Shields.
Everybody remember to turn off your Temporal Shields before you crash your Intrepid Class ship into the Iconian ships. If you don't, you will end up in a field in Battle Creek Michigan where there is nothing, except stacks and stacks of Quarters and Cereal Boxtops.
Wait. Have we even invented Temporal Shields yet? I'm sure that we will have them and then forget that we had them, once we finally defeat the last of the Iconians, but do we have them now?
Oh joy more lockbox ships that will be snapped up and then posted for 100 Million or more EC. Sorry Cryptic I played your lockbox game dropped more cash then I care to think about and in all that time got one count them one ship and it was the Cardasian ship. The others I have I spent WAY to much EC for them. As it stands right now IMHO the lockbox ship thing is broken. Either up the drop rate or bind them to charecter with no selling them on exchange just like the event ships! I wish I could sell event ships but for some reason I get punished by them being bound yet lockbox ones can be freely sold on exchange. Oh well a couple of those new lockbox ships looked interesting but to bad they are lockbox and like I said will be sold for insane numbers.
if they were bound to character they'd be more than five times more expensive to get.
As it stands now, you can buy one for 100m ec, which is about 35 keys. So, if you want one, you can buy 35 keys and have a 100% chance of getting it.
If they implemented your foolish and disastrous idea, you'd need to buy on average 250 keys to get each ship.
Your idea is bad because it is self-defeating, if it were implemented, it would do the opposite of what you want it to do.
LMAO at the 100% chance of getting one with 35 keys. It's clear you have no idea what odds and the laws of probility mean. The odds are the same for each box and the odds do not reduce if you buy one or a hundred keys. If you bought 35 keys and opened 35 boxes you could wind up with 35 gear packs and zero ships or even 35 ships. Take a look at a Lottery some time. The only way to make it 100% is to buy every single key and you alone have every single lockbox of that type and NOBODY else. Again you logic is flawed you have no idea of how many keys I have bought and the hard cash I spent for pretty much useless TRIBBLE trying to get a ship. As far as you thought of 250 keys for ship where on earth did you pull that out of? If they were charecter bound when you opened the box like event ships there would be no issues at all. If anything if the cost went to 250 keys to get a ship then Cryptic would be making more money which is a good thing maybe they could upgrade their servers and get rid of the endless glitches in the game. They only ones my idea would be disatrous to would be the people who post them at insane prices and the elitests who try and keep gear and ships out of the game except for them by posting them at these insane prices. It would defintley reign in some of the practices in the exchange thats for sure. And please 100 mill for a T5 seriously?
Oh joy more lockbox ships that will be snapped up and then posted for 100 Million or more EC. Sorry Cryptic I played your lockbox game dropped more cash then I care to think about and in all that time got one count them one ship and it was the Cardasian ship. The others I have I spent WAY to much EC for them. As it stands right now IMHO the lockbox ship thing is broken. Either up the drop rate or bind them to charecter with no selling them on exchange just like the event ships! I wish I could sell event ships but for some reason I get punished by them being bound yet lockbox ones can be freely sold on exchange. Oh well a couple of those new lockbox ships looked interesting but to bad they are lockbox and like I said will be sold for insane numbers.
if they were bound to character they'd be more than five times more expensive to get.
As it stands now, you can buy one for 100m ec, which is about 35 keys. So, if you want one, you can buy 35 keys and have a 100% chance of getting it.
If they implemented your foolish and disastrous idea, you'd need to buy on average 250 keys to get each ship.
Your idea is bad because it is self-defeating, if it were implemented, it would do the opposite of what you want it to do.
LMAO at the 100% chance of getting one with 35 keys. It's clear you have no idea what odds and the laws of probility mean. The odds are the same for each box and the odds do not reduce if you buy one or a hundred keys. If you bought 35 keys and opened 35 boxes you could wind up with 35 gear packs and zero ships or even 35 ships. Take a look at a Lottery some time. The only way to make it 100% is to buy every single key and you alone have every single lockbox of that type and NOBODY else. Again you logic is flawed you have no idea of how many keys I have bought and the hard cash I spent for pretty much useless TRIBBLE trying to get a ship. As far as you thought of 250 keys for ship where on earth did you pull that out of? If they were charecter bound when you opened the box like event ships there would be no issues at all. If anything if the cost went to 250 keys to get a ship then Cryptic would be making more money which is a good thing maybe they could upgrade their servers and get rid of the endless glitches in the game. They only ones my idea would be disatrous to would be the people who post them at insane prices and the elitests who try and keep gear and ships out of the game except for them by posting them at these insane prices. It would defintley reign in some of the practices in the exchange thats for sure. And please 100 mill for a T5 seriously?
You misunderstood what he was saying. He wasn't saying that if you open 35 boxes you have 100% chance of getting the ship, he was saying that if the ship sells for around 100mil EC and you buy 35 keys and sell them on the exchange then you can buy the ship from the exchange... thus 100% chance.
Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
Let's jus say I'm very much angry at the Reciprocity trait being lockboxed.
Yes, on one side KDF and Romulans are getting this OP trait. (That's pretty much what I've always wanted.) But on the other hand it being a lockbox item means I'll never get it.
How do you figure you'll never get it? Do you have a plasmonic leech? That was available on a KDF ship, Fed side had to open a lock box to get it or, buy it on exchange. This go around, Feds get reciprocity on a ship (more expensive ship), and KDF can get it via a lockbox or... more than likely, from the exchange. Seems pretty consistent to me. Or maybe they should just give you everything you want without having to earn it in any way.
I do use Plasmonic Leech on every KDF aligned char. Not on any FED aligned chars. I've gotten Reciprocity on all FED chars. But I won't get Reciprocity on my ROM and KDF chars.
Lockbox items in general are far too expensive for me to consider getting them on a regular basis. And I refuse to get these expensive toys on only some of my chars - they're all to be equal in as many ways as possible.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
And I refuse to get these expensive toys on only some of my chars - they're all to be equal in as many ways as possible.
I share that sentiment. I'm an alter, so I don't spend money on things that I can only use on one toon as I don't know if I'll be playing with that toon the next day. It's why I keep pushing for more account level unlocks for items.
Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
Hello everyone is that for real August 7 the Raiderz going down? sorry for not making my own topic but for some reason there is "disabled" due i am new to "Arc" i was playing Raiderz in "PerfectWorld" and i just notice it moved to "Arc" and i looked to that annc and looked sad... is that for real? thanks for awnsers...
Science Dreadnaught? Are you guys referring to the Krenim Temporal Weapons Ship? No way in hell do we get to fly that as a our own ship. At best it will be a special mission where we get to control it. My guess is we'll be escorting it to the Andromeda Sphere to escort the sphereout of existence. That ship is WAY too broken as a regular ship.
In any event these changes seem very positive. Time will tell as the other lockboxes cycle through and we all see how it shakes out with the past items.
My guess is it is a mission reward in the same way that the Obelisk carrier was during season 8 and will go to being a lobi ship thereafter. Will just have to wait and see I suppose.
It's maybe a matter of taste, but i find these ships quiet ugly and their capacities seems good but doesn't impress me enough to make me buy them.
It's disappointing because after acquiring recently the Mobius and the Wells i was really looking for others temporal themed ships.
Since you made a synergy between the old D'kora and the Nandi i was expecting one between the temporal lock box ships (Mobius and Wells) and the Years of Hell lock box ships.
I see there's none so i will not even care to acquire the laters and i'll keep my EC for another ship.
Talking about the Wells and the Mobius, i wish to ask to the dev following this thread about the Manheim device:
As you are working on the temporal theme with the Krenim, will you take the occasion to rework the Manheim device too?
One of you promised us to rework this device into a more positive console than it is now after all.
FFS people - those are BEAMS not engine trails. The Krenim Ship is flying in the correct direction.
Borticus, that post made my day ... my week ... and maybe even my year when it comes to the STO forums.
I honestly love you after reading that post. If more devs jumped into the forums posting messages like that, well, I'm sure some people would take offense, but I'd be happy knowing that the devs are indeed human beings who pay attention to at least "some" of our idiotic comments.
In the immortal words of Captain Sisko: "It may not be what you believe, but that doesn't make it wrong."
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
Science Dreadnaught? Are you guys referring to the Krenim Temporal Weapons Ship? No way in hell do we get to fly that as a our own ship. At best it will be a special mission where we get to control it. My guess is we'll be escorting it to the Andromeda Sphere to escort the sphereout of existence. That ship is WAY too broken as a regular ship.
In any event these changes seem very positive. Time will tell as the other lockboxes cycle through and we all see how it shakes out with the past items.
My guess is it is a mission reward in the same way that the Obelisk carrier was during season 8 and will go to being a lobi ship thereafter. Will just have to wait and see I suppose.
If it's a mission reward, I will finally do an FE on all 10 of my characters. I must have that ship for at least three of my characters, two of whom have a backstory involving time travel and the other is in charge of our Temporal Intelligence Division.
Since you made a synergy between the old D'kora and the Nandi i was expecting one between the temporal lock box ships (Mobius and Wells) and the Years of Hell lock box ships.
I see there's none so i will not even care to acquire the laters and i'll keep my EC for another ship.
Although I do think the old temporal set needs some attention from the devs, I don't know if I would want a "massive" change with multiple set bonuses for staking all the old and new temporal consoles.
That said, it would be nice if the new temporal ship (assuming we get it as a playable ship) could use all these lockbox/Lobi consoles as well as the old temporal set AND that ship gets something like a flat +10% bonus to all temporal console abilities.
On a side note, although the still images of the new disruptors look nice, I wish we would have gotten space chroniton beam and cannon weapons from this lock box ... that would finally give players the ability to use nothing but similar looking energy weapons to the chroniton dual beam bank from the Lobi store.
In the immortal words of Captain Sisko: "It may not be what you believe, but that doesn't make it wrong."
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
Oh joy more lockbox ships that will be snapped up and then posted for 100 Million or more EC. Sorry Cryptic I played your lockbox game dropped more cash then I care to think about and in all that time got one count them one ship and it was the Cardasian ship. The others I have I spent WAY to much EC for them. As it stands right now IMHO the lockbox ship thing is broken. Either up the drop rate or bind them to charecter with no selling them on exchange just like the event ships! I wish I could sell event ships but for some reason I get punished by them being bound yet lockbox ones can be freely sold on exchange. Oh well a couple of those new lockbox ships looked interesting but to bad they are lockbox and like I said will be sold for insane numbers.
if they were bound to character they'd be more than five times more expensive to get.
As it stands now, you can buy one for 100m ec, which is about 35 keys. So, if you want one, you can buy 35 keys and have a 100% chance of getting it.
If they implemented your foolish and disastrous idea, you'd need to buy on average 250 keys to get each ship.
Your idea is bad because it is self-defeating, if it were implemented, it would do the opposite of what you want it to do.
Since you made a synergy between the old D'kora and the Nandi i was expecting one between the temporal lock box ships (Mobius and Wells) and the Years of Hell lock box ships.
I see there's none so i will not even care to acquire the laters and i'll keep my EC for another ship.
Although I do think the old temporal set needs some attention from the devs, I don't know if I would want a "massive" change with multiple set bonuses for staking all the old and new temporal consoles.
That said, it would be nice if the new temporal ship (assuming we get it as a playable ship) could use all these lockbox/Lobi consoles as well as the old temporal set AND that ship gets something like a flat +10% bonus to all temporal console abilities.
On a side note, although the still images of the new disruptors look nice, I wish we would have gotten space chroniton beam and cannon weapons from this lock box ... that would finally give players the ability to use nothing but similar looking energy weapons to the chroniton dual beam bank from the Lobi store.
Maybe the new holding will open up Fleet Chronitons?
It has no connection to the Delta Quadrant or upcoming event and storyline. It is, however, a chance to have your very own "Porthos" á la Jonathan Archer
Maybe it is connected. This lockbox is about Krenim (mostly), so obviously time travel shenanigans are involved. We only got beagles in this lockbox, not any other dogs. Archer obviously had a beagle. Do you remember ENT's temporal story?
Will Cryptic put the temporal cold war from ENT in STO now?
I'm not speaking for everyone here, but I thought the temporal cold war was the weaker part of ENT.
"Bloody explorers, ponce off to Mumbo Jumbo land, come home with a tropical disease, a suntan and a bag of brown lumpy things, and Bob's your uncle, everyone's got a picture of them in the lavatory."
-Edmund Blackadder-
I certainly appreciate a improvement in lockbox value (and perceived value), but what would really grab my interest is if, instead of a random number (usually very few) of Lobi crystals in a lockbox, if we could instead get a (transferable) Lobi Crystal Crate with 10 Lobi inside every time, kinda like Drifter Salvage crates in CO. I'd like to have the opportunity to go on the exchange and just purchase some Lobi crates if I want to buy something, rather than needing to buy keys, open lockboxes, hope for the best, open more lockboxes when the best fails to show up, then deal with a bunch of stuff that I have to figure out how to sort/transfer/sell/etc that may or (more likely) may not be the hot new item on the exchange.
All higher-tier prizes become slightly more common
Our hope with these changes is that we’ve managed to further reinforce the sense of value that players feel each time they use a Master Key to open a Lock Box. While these changes will be restricted to the Year of Hell Lock Box for the time being, we are considering updating older boxes with similar changes if they receive a positive reception.
I might be reading too much into this, but does this mean that you are considering removing the duty officer mini-packs (Gamma Quadrant, Reinforcements, and Fleet Support) and introducing new ways of obtaining those doffs?
Additionally, the Weapons Pack that will be found in this Lock Box will offer players that open the pack a choice of the type of weapon they would like to receive – Cannons or Beams. No Ground Weapons will be offered this time around, but they will likely return in future weapon packs.
What does this mean exactly? There are two classes of weapons that count as beams (DBBs and beam arrays), and four classes that count as cannons (DHCs, DCs, single cannons, and turrets).
Also, I actually like some of the ground weapons that come from lockboxes, such as nanite disruptors and Vaadwaur polaron weapons. I hope that these won't be phased out.
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USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
"In addition to these two fine vessels, the Nihydron Destroyer can also be obtained from this Lock Box. As a Tier 5 starship, this vessel maintains the capability of equipping both consoles from the other Coalition starships. This ship may also be upgraded to T5-U with the use of a Starship Upgrade Requisition."
So, yeah, there is one of those in this box, too.
A man with a sense of humor, gotta appreciate that!
Hmmm. Sounds like a great equalizer; in reality, though, it will probably just benefit high-DPS folks most, who will forego even more on things like structural integrity and resists, so as to do even moar DPS. Voth Reflection? Take it! Then finish the Citadel off with your few seconds of ressurection god-mode.
I imagine it will be good for PvP, though: vape, and be subsequently vaped in return!
If so, can we see specs?! And a picture of the Krenim bridge, please.
I prefer not to see a picture of the bridge. Because im sure it will make me regret any will to adquire that ship lol..
Ok thanks, I somehow missed that part on reading it. I looked up the ship to see what it looked like. I'm not fully decided if I will get it.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Ah. The old Deux Machina Lockbox. I like it.
Just remember that will only work if we turn off our Temporal Shields.
Everybody remember to turn off your Temporal Shields before you crash your Intrepid Class ship into the Iconian ships. If you don't, you will end up in a field in Battle Creek Michigan where there is nothing, except stacks and stacks of Quarters and Cereal Boxtops.
Wait. Have we even invented Temporal Shields yet? I'm sure that we will have them and then forget that we had them, once we finally defeat the last of the Iconians, but do we have them now?
You misunderstood what he was saying. He wasn't saying that if you open 35 boxes you have 100% chance of getting the ship, he was saying that if the ship sells for around 100mil EC and you buy 35 keys and sell them on the exchange then you can buy the ship from the exchange... thus 100% chance.
I do use Plasmonic Leech on every KDF aligned char. Not on any FED aligned chars. I've gotten Reciprocity on all FED chars. But I won't get Reciprocity on my ROM and KDF chars.
Lockbox items in general are far too expensive for me to consider getting them on a regular basis. And I refuse to get these expensive toys on only some of my chars - they're all to be equal in as many ways as possible.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
I share that sentiment. I'm an alter, so I don't spend money on things that I can only use on one toon as I don't know if I'll be playing with that toon the next day. It's why I keep pushing for more account level unlocks for items.
My guess is it is a mission reward in the same way that the Obelisk carrier was during season 8 and will go to being a lobi ship thereafter. Will just have to wait and see I suppose.
It's disappointing because after acquiring recently the Mobius and the Wells i was really looking for others temporal themed ships.
Since you made a synergy between the old D'kora and the Nandi i was expecting one between the temporal lock box ships (Mobius and Wells) and the Years of Hell lock box ships.
I see there's none so i will not even care to acquire the laters and i'll keep my EC for another ship.
Talking about the Wells and the Mobius, i wish to ask to the dev following this thread about the Manheim device:
As you are working on the temporal theme with the Krenim, will you take the occasion to rework the Manheim device too?
One of you promised us to rework this device into a more positive console than it is now after all.
Borticus, that post made my day ... my week ... and maybe even my year when it comes to the STO forums.
I honestly love you after reading that post. If more devs jumped into the forums posting messages like that, well, I'm sure some people would take offense, but I'd be happy knowing that the devs are indeed human beings who pay attention to at least "some" of our idiotic comments.
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
If it's a mission reward, I will finally do an FE on all 10 of my characters. I must have that ship for at least three of my characters, two of whom have a backstory involving time travel and the other is in charge of our Temporal Intelligence Division.
Although I do think the old temporal set needs some attention from the devs, I don't know if I would want a "massive" change with multiple set bonuses for staking all the old and new temporal consoles.
That said, it would be nice if the new temporal ship (assuming we get it as a playable ship) could use all these lockbox/Lobi consoles as well as the old temporal set AND that ship gets something like a flat +10% bonus to all temporal console abilities.
On a side note, although the still images of the new disruptors look nice, I wish we would have gotten space chroniton beam and cannon weapons from this lock box ... that would finally give players the ability to use nothing but similar looking energy weapons to the chroniton dual beam bank from the Lobi store.
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
You tell them druk!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Maybe the new holding will open up Fleet Chronitons?
Maybe it is connected. This lockbox is about Krenim (mostly), so obviously time travel shenanigans are involved. We only got beagles in this lockbox, not any other dogs. Archer obviously had a beagle. Do you remember ENT's temporal story?
Will Cryptic put the temporal cold war from ENT in STO now?
I'm not speaking for everyone here, but I thought the temporal cold war was the weaker part of ENT.
-Edmund Blackadder-
I guess they couldnt find a negative on that to comment on
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What does this mean exactly? There are two classes of weapons that count as beams (DBBs and beam arrays), and four classes that count as cannons (DHCs, DCs, single cannons, and turrets).
Also, I actually like some of the ground weapons that come from lockboxes, such as nanite disruptors and Vaadwaur polaron weapons. I hope that these won't be phased out.