Do we know they had a senate? Sela was an Empress.
Yes, they have a Senate - you can debate their use since they were essentially just a bunch of yes men/women while Sela was around, but now they are back to the old intrigues.
And the source you want above is PT2409 on 5 counts, and simple maths on count 6.
I'm not going to really have an opinion on this, I see both sides.
That said:
Please don't link another thread that had a last post six months ago though? Seriously. I'm just bracing for an influx of new posts about UFP getting Orions as a z-store unlock again. When all they really need to add as an unlock is a few traits that could be put on an alien build. (seduce, mainly)
Aennik Okeg , needs to be found out as an Undine infiltrator. Why else would he see an out dated treaty with a no longer existent enemy as such? The KDF AND RRW use cloaks and other WMD (Scimitar's planet killing thaeleron pulse - you arguments against FED cloak are ALL now invalid)
I'm not going to really have an opinion on this, I see both sides.
That said:
Please don't link another thread that had a last post six months ago though? Seriously. I'm just bracing for an influx of new posts about UFP getting Orions as a z-store unlock again. When all they really need to add as an unlock is a few traits that could be put on an alien build. (seduce, mainly)
Sorry, that was a half-joking response to the post I quoted, because the post I quoted wasn't actually wrong... it happened already. As far as Seduce, though, I'd suggest using a Vulcan with Mind Meld as a surrogate, or maybe actually getting the Pacification trait our boffs can have added to the Betazoid captains' trait options. Otherwise... I kind of assumed the "awhile ago" and the last post being dated 2013 would be sufficiently clear to avoid a bout of necromancy; maybe that was giving folks too much credit, but I hope not.
With each passing day I wonder if I stepped into an alternate reality. The Cubs win the world series. Donald Trump is President. Britain leaves the EU. STO gets a dedicated PvP season. Engineers are "out of control" in STO.
Sorry, that was a half-joking response to the post I quoted, because the post I quoted wasn't actually wrong... it happened already. As far as Seduce, though, I'd suggest using a Vulcan with Mind Meld as a surrogate, or maybe actually getting the Pacification trait our boffs can have added to the Betazoid captains' trait options. Otherwise... I kind of assumed the "awhile ago" and the last post being dated 2013 would be sufficiently clear to avoid a bout of necromancy; maybe that was giving folks too much credit, but I hope not.
My suggestion is to put that in the cstore for alien builds, that way they can stick on the green skin and such that way, since they'd have to be in fleet uniforms. ^_^ (or some of those stripperiffic mirror things )
And personally I like phase and cloak being separate the way it is on the two piece D'd set (D'deridex/D'ridthau).
I actually wondered about that when I saw Pegasus the first time. "If you can phase invert just enough to be visible but have the weapon fire pass through, just do that and not cloak. The treaty is about cloaking devices, not phase inverters."
okay who is leading the RSE? Why weren't they part of the conference? BECAUSE THEY ARE NO LONGER A RECOGNIZE POWER!
The RR is a completely different power so different treaties involed with them. so unless Algeron was included, unlikely at this point Algeron is null and void.
also Okeg made that order why there was still an RSE around and peace with the KDF. Not long later fed and KDF went to war. midway through the campaign the RSE falls and the RR rises.
AT MINIMUM THE FED SHIP THAT ARE CLOAKABLE SHOULD HAVE INTIGRATED CLOAKS!
I admit, anymore nowadays I'm not really against integrating a basic cloak into the ships that can use it, at least the Gal-X and Defiant, along with their fleet versions. That I do not mind. I used to be more against it, but times have changed. But that is ONLY for basic cloaks. Battle cloaks or anything else, you gotta pay something for it still.
Now...the RSE wasn't invited to a conference...
DUH!
The Tal Shiar, even putting aside the Iconians for the moment, alone have been a great threat to the other powers by what they've done, let alone the RSE in general, like Sela. Guess what? In real-life politics, if there is some international conference that you in whatever country you are, is hosting... If there is a country you are currently having hostilities with, even if it isn't outright war or anything, guess what, you probably won't invite them to said conference.
It HAPPENS in real life. Take North Korea for example. If South Korea hosts some kind of conference, chances are they probably won't be inviting North Korea to it. Does that mean that North Korea doesn't exist all of a sudden? No, it's still very much so there. So saying that just because the RSE wasn't invited doesn't mean they suddenly don't exist.
So far, the game lore has said nothing to the contrary. Until the game, and thus really the devs through the game, say that the RSE is gone as are all treaties with them, or say that the Treaty of Algeron is either void or at least lessened in regards to cloaking, things aren't changing, period.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Aennik Okeg , needs to be found out as an Undine infiltrator. Why else would he see an out dated treaty with a no longer existent enemy as such? The KDF AND RRW use cloaks and other WMD (Scimitar's planet killing thaeleron pulse - you arguments against FED cloak are ALL now invalid)
Maybe he is, or perhaps he believes in the ideals of the Federation and doesn't think they should use Cloaks. Which is funny because apparently the people playing as the Federation don't give a damn about it's ideals.
And the best Argument is still valid. The President and leader of the Federation has said no.
First of all what weapon of Mass Destruction do the Klingons have?
Secondly the Scimitar gets the Thalaron Pulse for the same reason the Defiant and Galaxy X get their cloaks. Because that's how it was on Screen.
I was once DKnight1000, apparently I had taken my own name so now I'm DKnight0001. If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why. When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
I would not be suprised if a lot of species and governments outside the Federation relied a bit on the Treaty of Algeron keeping cloak out of hands of the Federation. It was at least one advanced tech that the Federation couldn't use against them, and they could potentially acquire if the Federation became a threat to them.
For many neutrals and enemies of the Federation, the Romulan Star Empire seemed to have kept them in check. Even if that perception is wrong,and the real reason the Federation is kept in check is because they are nice people.
But if you suddenly realize that one of your neighbours has lost a big enemy, and gains access to new technology - you may become worried and decide that you launch a preemptive strike before you lose complete control - even if it's just xenophobia or paranoia making you do it, not a a factual actual risk.
Seems it would be a good idea for a Federation president to explain that cloak is still off limits for Starfleet and the treaty of Algeron is not deemed void, despite the struggle the Romulan people find themselves in.
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
...snip...
Seems it would be a good idea for a Federation president to explain that cloak is still off limits for Starfleet and the treaty of Algeron is not deemed void, despite the struggle the Romulan people find themselves in.
He has. Which is something the advocates of a phasing cloak for Fed's, refuse to accept or acknowledge.
"Go play with your DPS in the corner, I don't care how big it is." ~ Me "There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
Who needs cloak anyway if you are properly invested in Mask Energy Signature.
Regardless of Federation presidents making statements i can see more Federation Cloak in the near future.
First there is the Phased Cloak prototype which may actually make it's way onto a T5-6 Oberth variant.
Secondly, with the new alliance between RR, KDF and Federation against the Undine i can see the RR allowing the use of Cloak on Federation vessels in the Delta Quadrant.
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
Rest in peace kdf...it was a nice run....once the feddy bears get the cloak no more kdf
R.I.P
KDF was dead on conception and you'd have to be a fool not to have seen that.
The KDF lovebears, to use your colorful phrase, will still have their backwards culture and smoke filled hallways but they were destined to join the federation sooner or later.
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
I do not see why we can have a prototype ship integrated whit Phased Cloak and i`ts easy to integrate it the lore now whit the new peace the Romulan may agree for a prototype.
Мaybe be a extend of the treaty from the DS9 and the Defiant cloaking device. The Romulan agree to place the device on the ship in exchange of intelligence on the Dominion, why have the same for the Voyager data banks on the delta Quadrant.
I do not see why we can have a prototype ship integrated whit Phased Cloak and i`ts easy to integrate it the lore now whit the new peace the Romulan may agree for a prototype.
Except the President of the Federation still says no. It goes against the ideals of the Federation.
As a Citizen of the Federation and an Admiral of Starfleet your Leader is saying no.
I was once DKnight1000, apparently I had taken my own name so now I'm DKnight0001. If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why. When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
I do not see why we can have a prototype ship integrated whit Phased Cloak and i`ts easy to integrate it the lore now whit the new peace the Romulan may agree for a prototype.
despite this sort of thing being posted every page, i dont follow this logic.
i also dont follow the logic that stipulates 'the rse is defunct so none of that counts any more'.
'its been a whole year already. times have changed'.
the usa and russia are not currently at war (and have never been at war in fact), but how do you think they would react if the usa began to ignore wholesale the treaties nixon and the ussr signed in the 1970s?
despite this sort of thing being posted every page, i dont follow this logic.
i also dont follow the logic that stipulates 'the rse is defunct so none of that counts any more'.
'its been a whole year already. times have changed'.
the usa and russia are not currently at war (and have never been at war in fact), but how do you think they would react if the usa began to ignore wholesale the treaties nixon and the ussr signed in the 1970s?
well but in the game the KDF and FED have gone to war 3 times
KDF and Romulan have been 2 times at war, the Human and Romulan have just 1 war before the fed was founded. The rest of the time was more like the cold war and them the Romulan empire fell there was no government. Now they are not a empire a republic and how about that the Romulan have thalaron radiation weapons this is violation the treaty i do not remember the name of it but. All treaty between the FED and Romulan Empire not valid.
Except the President of the Federation still says no. It goes against the ideals of the Federation.
As a Citizen of the Federation and an Admiral of Starfleet your Leader is saying no.
Then make it a Section 31 ship they have make far worst thing in the past that breaking few rules and going agents fed ideals to protect the fed. Like in DS9 they almost kill a enter race.
Then make it a Section 31 ship they have make far worst thing in the past that breaking few rules and going agents fed ideals to protect the fed. Like in DS9 they almost kill a enter race.
I'm sure the Federations current allies would stand for a known "rogue branch of Starfleet" developing and using a phased cloak/cloak. I mean its not like section 31 deliberately tried to start a war with the Romulans or have attempted to commit wide scale genocide before, they are trustworthy folks right. Its not like starfleet seems to be unable to control its officers whom several have turned out to be Undine right.
Why not just ask for a playable Tal shiar faction? :rolleyes:
I'm sure the Federations current allies would stand for a known "rogue branch of Starfleet" developing and using a phased cloak/cloak. I mean its not like section 31 deliberately tried to start a war with the Romulans or have attempted to commit wide scale genocide before, they are trustworthy folks right. Its not like starfleet seems to be unable to control its officers whom several have turned out to be Undine right.
Why not just ask for a playable Tal shiar faction? :rolleyes:
Haven you hear of something call secret project and they have develop it for top secret mission ore something. If this do not works what about a extend of the treaty from the DS9 and the Defiant cloaking device. The Romulan agree to place the device on the ship in exchange of intelligence on the Dominion, why have the same for the Voyager data banks on the Delta Quadrant. (the Romulans and the KDF have no data on the Delta Quadrant)
Except the President of the Federation still says no. It goes against the ideals of the Federation.
As a Citizen of the Federation and an Admiral of Starfleet your Leader is saying no.
It's not against the ideals of the federation. what ever made you think that? No the one reason feds had no cloak in the shows was a treaty. I treaty now null and void by STO.
I feel this more about the balance for the ship in different faction.
If this is apply to all ships fed will have the best and strong ships.
If i`ts not then fed need to get boost for the shields and i mean Mercassium http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Mercassium in episode DS9 The Maquis, Part I 2x20 says that the fed do not share this technology whit no one which mean i`ts a Unique.
Haven you hear of something call secret project and they have develop it for top secret mission ore something. If this do not works what about a extend of the treaty from the DS9 and the Defiant cloaking device. The Romulan agree to place the device on the ship in exchange of intelligence on the Dominion, why have the same for the Voyager data banks on the Delta Quadrant. (the Romulans and the KDF have no data on the Delta Quadrant)
All of the Federations secret cloaking projects were illegal and when found out the officers involved have been court martialed, the exception being the rogue Section 31 that exists but in what official capacity has not really understood since they regularly break Starfleet laws and regulations to further their own agenda.
The Dominion war ended in 2375 the Klingon Empire was still allied mostly with the Federation until around 2400. It is more than likely that the Klingon intelligence service found out what they wanted to know about the Dominion during that time and from scans of Dominion vessels during the war. Romulans are just sneaky :P and likely have that information as well either through espionage or simply paying some willing Ferengi to take some scans of useful information on DS9.
It's not against the ideals of the federation. what ever made you think that? No the one reason feds had no cloak in the shows was a treaty. I treaty now null and void by STO.
The United Federation of Planets (abbreviated as UFP and commonly referred to as the Federation) was an interstellar federal republic, composed of planetary governments that agreed to exist semi-autonomously under a single central government based on the principles of universal liberty, rights, and equality, and to share their knowledge and resources in peaceful cooperation and space exploration. (TOS: "Arena", "A Taste of Armageddon"; DS9: "Battle Lines"; VOY: "Innocence"; Star Trek: First Contact)
One of the most powerful interstellar states in known space, it encompassed 8,000 light years and at least a thousand planets. (TOS: "Metamorphosis") The total number of formal members worlds was over one hundred and fifty. (Star Trek: First Contact)
Unlike its imperial rivals, who derived power from a single species subjugating other races, (TOS: "Errand of Mercy"; Star Trek Nemesis; ENT: "United") the Federation's various member worlds joined willingly (TNG: "Attached"; DS9: "Emissary", "Rapture") and were equals in the Federation's democratic society. (DS9: "Paradise Lost"; VOY: "Author, Author") The Federation Starfleet was incorporated to maintain exploratory, scientific, diplomatic, and defense functions. (TOS: "The Cage", "Where No Man Has Gone Before", "Journey to Babel")
At the start of the 24th century, the Federation began an unprecedented period of peaceful exploration of the galaxy, free of major conflicts, as its main adversary of the previous century, the Klingon Empire, was now at peace with it. However, relations with the Romulans remained hostile, albeit at a low, 'cold war' level. There was also a series of local conflicts in the late 2340s, as the Federation came into contact with other militant races such as the Cardassians, the Talarians, the Tholians and the Tzenkethi.
Cloaks are primarily used offensively to gain a tactical advantage and used by aggresive empires such as the Romulans and Klingons. What do peaceful explorers need with cloaks when your sensors/sensor probes can get the information for you from light years away?
*In 2267, the sensors of the USS Enterprise were able to scan out to one parsec (3.26 light years) and give a near instantaneous result. (TOS: "The Enterprise Incident")
*In 2368, the long range sensors aboard the Enterprise-D were able to detect a cubical Borg scout ship with a mass of 2.5 million metric tons, at a range that would take thirty-one hours and seven minutes to traverse at warp factor seven-point-six. (TNG: "I Borg")
PS.. The novel Section 31: Abyss, by David Weddle and Jeffrey Lang, establishes that the holoship was created by Section 31 for the Ba'ku incident, which the organization had engineered and had publicly blamed on Dougherty. The holoship was slated for destruction by Starfleet Command after the incident became public; however, Commander Elias Vaughn and his cabal of Starfleet officers covertly working against Section 31 stole the ship and faked destruction reports, later using it to help undermine various Section 31 operations.
All of the Federations secret cloaking projects were illegal and when found out the officers involved have been court martialed, the exception being the rogue Section 31 that exists but in what official capacity has not really understood since they regularly break Starfleet laws and regulations to further their own agenda.
The Dominion war ended in 2375 the Klingon Empire was still allied mostly with the Federation until around 2400. It is more than likely that the Klingon intelligence service found out what they wanted to know about the Dominion during that time and from scans of Dominion vessels during the war. Romulans are just sneaky :P and likely have that information as well either through espionage or simply paying some willing Ferengi to take some scans of useful information on DS9.
The United Federation of Planets has not treaty whit the Klingon to not develop Cloaks technology i`ts whit the Romulan Empire and that i`ts not valid in the current times. And if turn out that the Romulan Republic have made a new treaty whit the fed about this i do not recall seeing anything about this in-game lore for 2400.If the treaty is valid FED can exchange data on the Delta Quadrant whit the Romulan Republic so FED can place a Phasing Cloaking Device on a prototype ship like they allow in DS9 Series to put in the Cloaking Device on the Defiant.
If you are desperate for a cloak , use an ability mask energy signature .
The second thing , why are you playing cops when you want act like a thief ?
Then fed need to get boost for the shields and i mean Mercassium http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Mercassium in episode DS9 The Maquis, Part I 2x20 says that the fed do not share this technology whit no one which mean i`ts a Unique.
Then fed need to get boost for the shields and i mean Mercassium http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Mercassium in episode DS9 The Maquis, Part I 2x20 says that the fed do not share this technology whit no one which mean i`ts a Unique.
So am I to understand that this game is just too hard for you and you need a more powerful ship to win?
Your desperately looking for another advantage another new super ship that just can't be beaten.
The L40 T5 Assault Cruiser is enough ship for any mission with any Captain with Mk XI Green gear with a decent loadout, BOFF choice and Captain Build. It just might not be the way you want to play the game. I'm all for adding more choice as long as you don't steal something unique from another Faction. But how is Phase Cloaking immunity a new unique way to play? It's just God Mode, oops down to 10% hull activate immunity and lets fly off and heal.
At least with the the current Phase Cloaks that immunity is 10s. And if being in a ship that can cloak all the time is important to you join the Romulans or the Klingons. Most of their ships the Cloak is built in. I suggest the Romulans, they give up very little for Battle Cloak.
I was once DKnight1000, apparently I had taken my own name so now I'm DKnight0001. If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why. When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
So am I to understand that this game is just too hard for you and you need a more powerful ship to win?
Your desperately looking for another advantage another new super ship that just can't be beaten.
The L40 T5 Assault Cruiser is enough ship for any mission with any Captain with Mk XI Green gear with a decent loadout, BOFF choice and Captain Build. It just might not be the way you want to play the game. I'm all for adding more choice as long as you don't steal something unique from another Faction. But how is Phase Cloaking immunity a new unique way to play? It's just God Mode, oops down to 10% hull activate immunity and lets fly off and heal.
At least with the the current Phase Cloaks that immunity is 10s. And if being in a ship that can cloak all the time is important to you join the Romulans or the Klingons. Most of their ships the Cloak is built in. I suggest the Romulans, they give up very little for Battle Cloak.
I have 9 characters and i have all faction and on my main i`ts a tactical Fed and i do fly whit the Andorian Kumari have all of the gear from the rep and Ellit weapons, consoles and shields i have all the Unique Doff whit 3 Romulans from the embassy (i do not have just 1 and that is veteran Eng Data version). Has noting to whit been overpower i`ts about been correct whit the lore of star trek. I have noting agents to have a negative site to dis clock like all thing have some so pls do not speculate over you head. And i do take almost all the time first place on the Elit STF.
Comments
Yes, they have a Senate - you can debate their use since they were essentially just a bunch of yes men/women while Sela was around, but now they are back to the old intrigues.
And the source you want above is PT2409 on 5 counts, and simple maths on count 6.
That said:
Please don't link another thread that had a last post six months ago though? Seriously. I'm just bracing for an influx of new posts about UFP getting Orions as a z-store unlock again. When all they really need to add as an unlock is a few traits that could be put on an alien build. (seduce, mainly)
Sorry, that was a half-joking response to the post I quoted, because the post I quoted wasn't actually wrong... it happened already. As far as Seduce, though, I'd suggest using a Vulcan with Mind Meld as a surrogate, or maybe actually getting the Pacification trait our boffs can have added to the Betazoid captains' trait options. Otherwise... I kind of assumed the "awhile ago" and the last post being dated 2013 would be sufficiently clear to avoid a bout of necromancy; maybe that was giving folks too much credit, but I hope not.
And personally I like phase and cloak being separate the way it is on the two piece D'd set (D'deridex/D'ridthau).
I actually wondered about that when I saw Pegasus the first time. "If you can phase invert just enough to be visible but have the weapon fire pass through, just do that and not cloak. The treaty is about cloaking devices, not phase inverters."
I admit, anymore nowadays I'm not really against integrating a basic cloak into the ships that can use it, at least the Gal-X and Defiant, along with their fleet versions. That I do not mind. I used to be more against it, but times have changed. But that is ONLY for basic cloaks. Battle cloaks or anything else, you gotta pay something for it still.
Now...the RSE wasn't invited to a conference...
DUH!
The Tal Shiar, even putting aside the Iconians for the moment, alone have been a great threat to the other powers by what they've done, let alone the RSE in general, like Sela. Guess what? In real-life politics, if there is some international conference that you in whatever country you are, is hosting... If there is a country you are currently having hostilities with, even if it isn't outright war or anything, guess what, you probably won't invite them to said conference.
It HAPPENS in real life. Take North Korea for example. If South Korea hosts some kind of conference, chances are they probably won't be inviting North Korea to it. Does that mean that North Korea doesn't exist all of a sudden? No, it's still very much so there. So saying that just because the RSE wasn't invited doesn't mean they suddenly don't exist.
So far, the game lore has said nothing to the contrary. Until the game, and thus really the devs through the game, say that the RSE is gone as are all treaties with them, or say that the Treaty of Algeron is either void or at least lessened in regards to cloaking, things aren't changing, period.
His Term ends in 2412, Unless you have Proof he isn't in office?
Maybe he is, or perhaps he believes in the ideals of the Federation and doesn't think they should use Cloaks. Which is funny because apparently the people playing as the Federation don't give a damn about it's ideals.
And the best Argument is still valid. The President and leader of the Federation has said no.
First of all what weapon of Mass Destruction do the Klingons have?
Secondly the Scimitar gets the Thalaron Pulse for the same reason the Defiant and Galaxy X get their cloaks. Because that's how it was on Screen.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
For many neutrals and enemies of the Federation, the Romulan Star Empire seemed to have kept them in check. Even if that perception is wrong,and the real reason the Federation is kept in check is because they are nice people.
But if you suddenly realize that one of your neighbours has lost a big enemy, and gains access to new technology - you may become worried and decide that you launch a preemptive strike before you lose complete control - even if it's just xenophobia or paranoia making you do it, not a a factual actual risk.
Seems it would be a good idea for a Federation president to explain that cloak is still off limits for Starfleet and the treaty of Algeron is not deemed void, despite the struggle the Romulan people find themselves in.
We still live!!!!! Hahahahahahahahaa! We live and we will conquer!!!!! Hahahahahaaha!
-Roach, when asked about Klingon extinction!
He has. Which is something the advocates of a phasing cloak for Fed's, refuse to accept or acknowledge.
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
Regardless of Federation presidents making statements i can see more Federation Cloak in the near future.
First there is the Phased Cloak prototype which may actually make it's way onto a T5-6 Oberth variant.
Secondly, with the new alliance between RR, KDF and Federation against the Undine i can see the RR allowing the use of Cloak on Federation vessels in the Delta Quadrant.
R.I.P
KDF was dead on conception and you'd have to be a fool not to have seen that.
The KDF lovebears, to use your colorful phrase, will still have their backwards culture and smoke filled hallways but they were destined to join the federation sooner or later.
Мaybe be a extend of the treaty from the DS9 and the Defiant cloaking device. The Romulan agree to place the device on the ship in exchange of intelligence on the Dominion, why have the same for the Voyager data banks on the delta Quadrant.
Except the President of the Federation still says no. It goes against the ideals of the Federation.
As a Citizen of the Federation and an Admiral of Starfleet your Leader is saying no.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
despite this sort of thing being posted every page, i dont follow this logic.
i also dont follow the logic that stipulates 'the rse is defunct so none of that counts any more'.
'its been a whole year already. times have changed'.
the usa and russia are not currently at war (and have never been at war in fact), but how do you think they would react if the usa began to ignore wholesale the treaties nixon and the ussr signed in the 1970s?
free jkname
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
well but in the game the KDF and FED have gone to war 3 times
KDF and Romulan have been 2 times at war, the Human and Romulan have just 1 war before the fed was founded. The rest of the time was more like the cold war and them the Romulan empire fell there was no government. Now they are not a empire a republic and how about that the Romulan have thalaron radiation weapons this is violation the treaty i do not remember the name of it but. All treaty between the FED and Romulan Empire not valid.
Then make it a Section 31 ship
I'm sure the Federations current allies would stand for a known "rogue branch of Starfleet" developing and using a phased cloak/cloak. I mean its not like section 31 deliberately tried to start a war with the Romulans or have attempted to commit wide scale genocide before, they are trustworthy folks right. Its not like starfleet seems to be unable to control its officers whom several have turned out to be Undine right.
Why not just ask for a playable Tal shiar faction? :rolleyes:
Haven you hear of something call secret project and they have develop it for top secret mission ore something. If this do not works what about a extend of the treaty from the DS9 and the Defiant cloaking device. The Romulan agree to place the device on the ship in exchange of intelligence on the Dominion, why have the same for the Voyager data banks on the Delta Quadrant. (the Romulans and the KDF have no data on the Delta Quadrant)
It's not against the ideals of the federation. what ever made you think that? No the one reason feds had no cloak in the shows was a treaty. I treaty now null and void by STO.
If this is apply to all ships fed will have the best and strong ships.
If i`ts not then fed need to get boost for the shields and i mean Mercassium
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Mercassium in episode DS9 The Maquis, Part I 2x20 says that the fed do not share this technology whit no one which mean i`ts a Unique.
All of the Federations secret cloaking projects were illegal and when found out the officers involved have been court martialed, the exception being the rogue Section 31 that exists but in what official capacity has not really understood since they regularly break Starfleet laws and regulations to further their own agenda.
The Dominion war ended in 2375 the Klingon Empire was still allied mostly with the Federation until around 2400. It is more than likely that the Klingon intelligence service found out what they wanted to know about the Dominion during that time and from scans of Dominion vessels during the war. Romulans are just sneaky :P and likely have that information as well either through espionage or simply paying some willing Ferengi to take some scans of useful information on DS9.
The United Federation of Planets (abbreviated as UFP and commonly referred to as the Federation) was an interstellar federal republic, composed of planetary governments that agreed to exist semi-autonomously under a single central government based on the principles of universal liberty, rights, and equality, and to share their knowledge and resources in peaceful cooperation and space exploration. (TOS: "Arena", "A Taste of Armageddon"; DS9: "Battle Lines"; VOY: "Innocence"; Star Trek: First Contact)
One of the most powerful interstellar states in known space, it encompassed 8,000 light years and at least a thousand planets. (TOS: "Metamorphosis") The total number of formal members worlds was over one hundred and fifty. (Star Trek: First Contact)
Unlike its imperial rivals, who derived power from a single species subjugating other races, (TOS: "Errand of Mercy"; Star Trek Nemesis; ENT: "United") the Federation's various member worlds joined willingly (TNG: "Attached"; DS9: "Emissary", "Rapture") and were equals in the Federation's democratic society. (DS9: "Paradise Lost"; VOY: "Author, Author") The Federation Starfleet was incorporated to maintain exploratory, scientific, diplomatic, and defense functions. (TOS: "The Cage", "Where No Man Has Gone Before", "Journey to Babel")
At the start of the 24th century, the Federation began an unprecedented period of peaceful exploration of the galaxy, free of major conflicts, as its main adversary of the previous century, the Klingon Empire, was now at peace with it. However, relations with the Romulans remained hostile, albeit at a low, 'cold war' level. There was also a series of local conflicts in the late 2340s, as the Federation came into contact with other militant races such as the Cardassians, the Talarians, the Tholians and the Tzenkethi.
Cloaks are primarily used offensively to gain a tactical advantage and used by aggresive empires such as the Romulans and Klingons. What do peaceful explorers need with cloaks when your sensors/sensor probes can get the information for you from light years away?
*In 2267, the sensors of the USS Enterprise were able to scan out to one parsec (3.26 light years) and give a near instantaneous result. (TOS: "The Enterprise Incident")
*In 2368, the long range sensors aboard the Enterprise-D were able to detect a cubical Borg scout ship with a mass of 2.5 million metric tons, at a range that would take thirty-one hours and seven minutes to traverse at warp factor seven-point-six. (TNG: "I Borg")
PS.. The novel Section 31: Abyss, by David Weddle and Jeffrey Lang, establishes that the holoship was created by Section 31 for the Ba'ku incident, which the organization had engineered and had publicly blamed on Dougherty. The holoship was slated for destruction by Starfleet Command after the incident became public; however, Commander Elias Vaughn and his cabal of Starfleet officers covertly working against Section 31 stole the ship and faked destruction reports, later using it to help undermine various Section 31 operations.
The second thing , why are you playing cops when you want act like a thief ?
The United Federation of Planets has not treaty whit the Klingon to not develop Cloaks technology i`ts whit the Romulan Empire and that i`ts not valid in the current times. And if turn out that the Romulan Republic have made a new treaty whit the fed about this i do not recall seeing anything about this in-game lore for 2400.If the treaty is valid FED can exchange data on the Delta Quadrant whit the Romulan Republic so FED can place a Phasing Cloaking Device on a prototype ship like they allow in DS9 Series to put in the Cloaking Device on the Defiant.
Then fed need to get boost for the shields and i mean Mercassium
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Mercassium in episode DS9 The Maquis, Part I 2x20 says that the fed do not share this technology whit no one which mean i`ts a Unique.
So am I to understand that this game is just too hard for you and you need a more powerful ship to win?
Your desperately looking for another advantage another new super ship that just can't be beaten.
The L40 T5 Assault Cruiser is enough ship for any mission with any Captain with Mk XI Green gear with a decent loadout, BOFF choice and Captain Build. It just might not be the way you want to play the game. I'm all for adding more choice as long as you don't steal something unique from another Faction. But how is Phase Cloaking immunity a new unique way to play? It's just God Mode, oops down to 10% hull activate immunity and lets fly off and heal.
At least with the the current Phase Cloaks that immunity is 10s. And if being in a ship that can cloak all the time is important to you join the Romulans or the Klingons. Most of their ships the Cloak is built in. I suggest the Romulans, they give up very little for Battle Cloak.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
I have 9 characters and i have all faction and on my main i`ts a tactical Fed and i do fly whit the Andorian Kumari have all of the gear from the rep and Ellit weapons, consoles and shields i have all the Unique Doff whit 3 Romulans from the embassy (i do not have just 1 and that is veteran Eng Data version). Has noting to whit been overpower i`ts about been correct whit the lore of star trek. I have noting agents to have a negative site to dis clock like all thing have some so pls do not speculate over you head. And i do take almost all the time first place on the Elit STF.