Well the new KDF cruiser get a battle cloak.. and I want to know what the heck is a Romulan Enhanced Battle Cloaking Device.
But ya these new T6 ships especially for feds out class any thing now.... but but.. built in fed cloaks!! "runs around showing all the nay sayers"
I still think ALL cloaks should be battle cloaks. But this works as well.
I'd imagine this 'Enhanced Battle Cloak' is what the T'varo and B'rel (along with their respective fleet versions) come with. So Romulans would get a second ship of a similar nature. At least that is my guess.
Well, as you and the others ignored it when I mentioned it several times in this thread...I didn't mind basic cloaks being integrated on Fed ships anymore. BASIC cloaks, like what the shiny new Fed ships are getting. Didn't mind that at all.
But... as a 'nay sayer'...this thread still failed. This thread was started with wanting a Phase cloak. And none of those ships come with a phase cloak. Only basic ones.
But considering that Smirk said he thinks the treaty is no more...something tells me that wasn't just his opinion. I have a feeling that we're going to see the very changes in lore that will say the treaty is gone...in Delta Rising that is.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Well, as you and the others ignored it when I mentioned it several times in this thread...I didn't mind basic cloaks being integrated on Fed ships anymore. BASIC cloaks, like what the shiny new Fed ships are getting. Didn't mind that at all.
You not the only one that was arguing about cloaks
But... as a 'nay sayer'...this thread still failed. This thread was started with wanting a Phase cloak. And none of those ships come with a phase cloak. Only basic ones.
Nice spin... this argument and you were part of many were about cloaks in general no just in this thread (no I will not necro pull those threads up to prove my point).. go back and read page after page it was just about cloaks.. phase cloaking was just one of many arguments. But I understand having to try to soften the blow by spinning it.. we understand
But considering that Smirk said he thinks the treaty is no more...something tells me that wasn't just his opinion. I have a feeling that we're going to see the very changes in lore that will say the treaty is gone...in Delta Rising that is.
We have been arguing the Treaty is no more for months.
We have been arguing for one:
Integrated cloaks.. and that happened.
We argued that the Treaty is no more... well the above happening proved that
We have made other suggestions such as phased cloaking.. which always turned in to FEDs aren't allowed to have cloaks.. Now that is not true with brand new integrated cloaks.
Like I have said many times I was arguing more from a lore perspective and common sense perspective. That Feds should and would have cloaking ships. So for me validates what I have been arguing. Getting Phased cloaks, battle cloaks or regular cloaks is just semantics. All I cared about is that Treaty and that stupid order from Okeg made no sense for this era of STO, with the fall of the old RSE to the rise of the new RSE and them blatantly attacking the Federation voiding the Treaty and that the Federation would go for cloaks. That's all I was intent on proving.
Honestly? I don't even really give a **** about the cloaks at all. I knew one day their (be it PWE, Cryptic, or both) greed would overcome any reasoning, and they'd find a way to give more cloaks to the Feds.
I am right on one thing I said much earlier in this thread, and I won't budge on this point at all:
Smirk coming in here and saying that he felt like the Treaty was no more did in fact give a lot of weight to more Fed cloaks, but apparently it was also a hint that they were going to get some more at that. I mean, be honest, would this thread have remained open for what...46 pages, if that wasn't the case?
I fully expect them to alter or add to the lore about more Fed cloaks, and hell, I'm not surprised if one day they give battle cloaks or even a phase cloak to Fed ships.
I guess also part of it is the fact that Feds are getting 4 of the 8 ships they are releasing (no idea on Fleet ships atm) with the expansion. I mean, that's half of the new ships, and the other half is split between KDF and Roms? A chance to kind of 'reset' things in terms of ships, and they can't even do that for all three factions? Point being that it's kinda irked me more than a little. (On a side note, at least ground ain't quite so screwed over. Everyone is much more equal there aside from DOFF prices, and that can't really be avoided with how the economy is)
Anyways, not really any point to continuing now. They've revealed what everyone is getting, and that includes Feds getting more cloaks. So the idea of Fed cloaks being taboo is more or less invalid from here on out.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
I have to agree that the Romulan Empire no longer exists, so treaties with them are now null and void.
There is no such treaty with the Romulan Republic (as far as we know?) so it would not violate any treaty to actively pursue a Fed Cloaking Device, phased or not.
I doubt D'Tan would tell the Feds they can't research cloaking technology.
~CaptainSmirk
With loving comments like this, who needs but one faction in this game? :rolleyes:
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HAHAHAHA!!!!
Oh I feel so vindicated....
All these months arguing about Fed cloaks and saying they were coming.. and HERE THEY ARE!! woot!!
Sorry for gloating but, but I just had to.
Guess the begging can move on to battle cloaks for feds now. :P
Well the new KDF cruiser get a battle cloak.. and I want to know what the heck is a Romulan Enhanced Battle Cloaking Device.
But ya these new T6 ships especially for feds out class any thing now.... but but.. built in fed cloaks!! "runs around showing all the nay sayers"
I still think ALL cloaks should be battle cloaks. But this works as well.
I'd imagine this 'Enhanced Battle Cloak' is what the T'varo and B'rel (along with their respective fleet versions) come with. So Romulans would get a second ship of a similar nature. At least that is my guess.
Well, as you and the others ignored it when I mentioned it several times in this thread...I didn't mind basic cloaks being integrated on Fed ships anymore. BASIC cloaks, like what the shiny new Fed ships are getting. Didn't mind that at all.
But... as a 'nay sayer'...this thread still failed. This thread was started with wanting a Phase cloak. And none of those ships come with a phase cloak. Only basic ones.
But considering that Smirk said he thinks the treaty is no more...something tells me that wasn't just his opinion. I have a feeling that we're going to see the very changes in lore that will say the treaty is gone...in Delta Rising that is.
We have been arguing for one:
Integrated cloaks.. and that happened.
We argued that the Treaty is no more... well the above happening proved that
We have made other suggestions such as phased cloaking.. which always turned in to FEDs aren't allowed to have cloaks.. Now that is not true with brand new integrated cloaks.
Like I have said many times I was arguing more from a lore perspective and common sense perspective. That Feds should and would have cloaking ships. So for me validates what I have been arguing. Getting Phased cloaks, battle cloaks or regular cloaks is just semantics. All I cared about is that Treaty and that stupid order from Okeg made no sense for this era of STO, with the fall of the old RSE to the rise of the new RSE and them blatantly attacking the Federation voiding the Treaty and that the Federation would go for cloaks. That's all I was intent on proving.
They are Section 31 ships...:P
We still live!!!!! Hahahahahahahahaa! We live and we will conquer!!!!! Hahahahahaaha!
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the guardian seems to follow classic lines...
The Tactical looks like a JHAS and a Defiant had a kid...
The cruiser looks like what a prometheus class would look like in the future
The Sci isn't bad as well..
just there using the what looks like a VET hual and give it that Tron look...
We can at least agree to that.
I am right on one thing I said much earlier in this thread, and I won't budge on this point at all:
Smirk coming in here and saying that he felt like the Treaty was no more did in fact give a lot of weight to more Fed cloaks, but apparently it was also a hint that they were going to get some more at that. I mean, be honest, would this thread have remained open for what...46 pages, if that wasn't the case?
I fully expect them to alter or add to the lore about more Fed cloaks, and hell, I'm not surprised if one day they give battle cloaks or even a phase cloak to Fed ships.
I guess also part of it is the fact that Feds are getting 4 of the 8 ships they are releasing (no idea on Fleet ships atm) with the expansion. I mean, that's half of the new ships, and the other half is split between KDF and Roms? A chance to kind of 'reset' things in terms of ships, and they can't even do that for all three factions? Point being that it's kinda irked me more than a little. (On a side note, at least ground ain't quite so screwed over. Everyone is much more equal there aside from DOFF prices, and that can't really be avoided with how the economy is)
Anyways, not really any point to continuing now. They've revealed what everyone is getting, and that includes Feds getting more cloaks. So the idea of Fed cloaks being taboo is more or less invalid from here on out.
actually if you think about it more the feds are getting 6 of the 8 ships, since half the rommies are fed.
kdf is getting 4 of 8, 2 ours 2 from the other half of the rommies
and rommies get 2 of 8 if you pretend you are NOT allied with anybody otherwise you got jack.
The fact that you are even considering this is dubious at best.
With loving comments like this, who needs but one faction in this game? :rolleyes: