and between the time Daniels showed Archer that and now even, allot of time has passed. who is to say some other time traveler has not gotten involved to change it after that point? we have allot of gaps in the trek time line that could allow for many new movies or series to add more canon content ot the prime universe.
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days.
remember time is not ridged. it has been shown in trek to change. the timeline admiral janeway left from in endgame no longer exists for example. so for all we know the time line with the enterprise-j is also gone or greatly altered
remember time is not ridged. it has been shown in trek to change. the timeline admiral janeway left from in endgame no longer exists for example. so for all we know the time line with the enterprise-j is also gone or greatly altered
oh, it most certainly does still exist; it has to, otherwise you end up causing a paradox
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
and when has star trek not cause a paradox with all there time loops, people coming from no longer existing futures, and alternate realities
older alexander/K'mtar's reality no longer exists but he still visited the enterpise-d
Admiral janeway's reality was also wiped out as soon as she went to the past to get voyager home quicker
so many paradoxes i think the loss of the enterpise-j's future will not hurt any thing
neither of those timelines were wiped out, the preferred timeline just isn't leading to them anymore...think of it like a river with an infinite number of branches - certain ones get dammed up by time travelers (sometimes accidentally) and the flow creates new branches, but the old ones are still there
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
in the shows they explained them as no longer existing as the outcome has changed
they never explained any such thing, because it isn't possible; if the timeline someone is from that tried to change something no longer exists because of their actions, then neither do they, and if they don't exist, they can't go back in time to do whatever they were trying to do
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
they never explained any such thing, because it isn't possible; if the timeline someone is from that tried to change something no longer exists because of their actions, then neither do they, and if they don't exist, they can't go back in time to do whatever they were trying to do
Arguable by canon evidence.
Guardian of Forever: McCoy goes to the past and alters history. Those close to and went through the gate are still in existence. As exceptions to the new time line.
Borg Sphere punches a hole in time: Enterprise E caught in the 'wake' is an exception to the new time line.
Voyager: Numerous, but show the existance of time travel enforcement with multiple exceptions. Also Krenim. 'Sits outside time'. Creating broken loop causality.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
Arguable by canon evidence.
Guardian of Forever: McCoy goes to the past and alters history. Those close to and went through the gate are still in existence. As exceptions to the new time line.
Borg Sphere punches a hole in time: Enterprise E caught in the 'wake' is an exception to the new time line.
Voyager: Numerous, but show the existance of time travel enforcement with multiple exceptions. Also Krenim. 'Sits outside time'. Creating broken loop causality.
and all of those instances are exceptions due to circumstances
being that close to the source of the thing that can generate portals to any given point in time would obviously protect anyone from subsequent changes, as would being caught in the wake of a temporal vortex
and as the krenim timeship sat outside time, obviously changes to it were not going to affect them in any way
the point still stands; it's basic temporal mechanics, not rocket science
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
and all of those instances are exceptions due to circumstances
being that close to the source of the thing that can generate portals to any given point in time would obviously protect anyone from subsequent changes, as would being caught in the wake of a temporal vortex
and as the krenim timeship sat outside time, obviously changes to it were not going to affect them in any way
the point still stands; it's basic temporal mechanics, not rocket science
And what about temporal enforcement? As introduced in Voyager, and continued with Daniels in Enterprise?
I mean he took Archer out of time for a brief visit to the future and wiped out his own timeline. (Except for himself by being out of time at the time. :rolleyes: ) Gets Archer returned home and hopefully ends up back in his own timeline. Then later can pull Archer out of time at will. . .
Thinking on this inconsistency is really making me think Holodeck the whole way. Even the broken future.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
And what about temporal enforcement? As introduced in Voyager, and continued with Daniels in Enterprise?
I mean he took Archer out of time for a brief visit to the future and wiped out his own timeline. (Except for himself by being out of time at the time. :rolleyes: ) Gets Archer returned home and hopefully ends up back in his own timeline. Then later can pull Archer out of time at will. . .
Thinking on this inconsistency is really making me think Holodeck the whole way. Even the broken future.
voyager and enterprise didn't exactly have the best of writers...see hyper-evolutionary salamanders from infinite warp and being stuck in the event horizon of a black hole without being crushed and ripped to subatomic pieces
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Frankly, almost* any episode involving time travel in any way, shape or form is a nonsensical bad memory I'd rather forget ever happened. So **** the whole subject.
* "Trials and Tribble-ations" being a notable exception. I love the part where Sisko admits to a minor violation of the Temporal PD by saying something to Kirk, only to have the DTI agent say, "Meh, frankly I'd've done the same."
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Frankly, almost* any episode involving time travel in any way, shape or form is a nonsensical bad memory I'd rather forget ever happened. So **** the whole subject.
* "Trials and Tribble-ations" being a notable exception. I love the part where Sisko admits to a minor violation of the Temporal PD by saying something to Kirk, only to have the DTI agent say, "Meh, frankly I'd've done the same."
That whole episode was fun. From Chief O'Brian not knowing how to do repairs to the Enterprise, to the culture shock of no one recognizing TOS Klingons.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
diversity is not strength, its a people divided. strength comes from a common goal and mindset, all we have is the enemy of my enemy is my friend mentality , that may work in short term against a single foe but in the end it always bites you in the TRIBBLE. ( 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 and 5 all this is just using the same idea that the devs used when they didn't allow romulans to use kdf t5 ships, it should hold for the other species as well.
all these alien species now in the empire should be thought of as what they truly are, cannon fodder.
BAH! My Orion is no cannon fodder -.- And nor is any of my Romies
We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
The converse would also be worth considering-How many times does a Klingon have to be right, before you'll listen to him (Trick question-you're a fed, you won't listen, regardless of how many times the Klingon's right.)
Actually I probably would have listened, after all the Klingons had a tendency to be very astute about those things
We are the Borg. Existence as you know it is over. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
I would love to see a storyline that involves the demise of J'Mpok. However I do NOT want the Undine or Section 31 involved at all.
The way I see it it would be a series of episodes with a decision tree to allow the player to choose whether or not they side with or against J'Mpok. It would bring the feud between J'Mpok and the house of Martok to a conclusion. It would end with the demise of J'Mpok.
I want this primarily because my main Klingon comes from a family that supported Martok and that J'Mpok tried (unsuccessfully) to break and he has long yearned to be the one to end J'Mpok. He has no desire to challenge for the Council Leadership... he just wants the chance to battle J'Mpok and then stand over his broken body watching him bleed out ... maybe present his heart to Lady Sirella as a keepsake heheheh
*STO*Its mission: To destroy strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations... and then kill them, to boldly annihilate what no one has annihilated before!
voyager and enterprise didn't exactly have the best of writers...see hyper-evolutionary salamanders from infinite warp and being stuck in the event horizon of a black hole without being crushed and ripped to subatomic pieces
Shooting the event horizon of the black hole with phasers was always a particularity good example of the bad Voyager writing.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Personally if we use bad writing to discount entire series then we can obliterate all of Star Trek.
Want to get drunk? Park near the gravity of a collapsing planet or star.
Want to fly a sailboat FTL? Just wander into free floating tachyons.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
i thought it was a dekyon beam? either way, still utter stupidity
No, the stupid part was the idea of having a crack in the event horizon at all. As Chuck so eloquently put it, that's like saying you can put a crack in the distance you can travel on a tank of gas and thereby go further.
Anytime somebody tries to claim Star Trek is harder sci-fi than Star Wars, I point at that episode.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
No, the stupid part was the idea of having a crack in the event horizon at all. As Chuck so eloquently put it, that's like saying you can put a crack in the distance you can travel on a tank of gas and thereby go further.
Anytime somebody tries to claim Star Trek is harder sci-fi than Star Wars, I point at that episode.
I point to anything with Q myself.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
No, the stupid part was the idea of having a crack in the event horizon at all. As Chuck so eloquently put it, that's like saying you can put a crack in the distance you can travel on a tank of gas and thereby go further.
Anytime somebody tries to claim Star Trek is harder sci-fi than Star Wars, I point at that episode.
Nothing in the storyline has ever indicated that J'mpok is incapable of leading the Emprie, nor that he is treacherous or dishonorable. His actions throughout the game are the ones of a standard Klingon given the honor and responsibility of a Chancellor.
Personally, I think J'mpok is doing a good job as far as the Empire is concerned and I don't share the delusions some other people state on the forum against him because they'd rather see Worf or hate him for killing Martok.
Yes, Sirella has declared a vengeance agains his Great House and yet J'mpok sends you (the player) to assist the House of Martok in the storyline. This is an action of a man that serves the Empire first and foremost and follows established rules, otherwise he could easily discard the request.
Furthermore, he has no issues allowing Worf as a gin'tak of the House of Martok the right to present the evidence against the House of Torg, nor has he any issues seing the facts and believing the evidence presented even though it's being presented by members of a Great House that declared vengeance against his House. He has no problem doing right for the Empire and ending the House of Torg, even though Torg was closely related to Ja'rod who is very close to J'mpok.
So no, I don't see a reason for the STO storyline to overthrow J'mpok - the man didn't do anything any other Chancellor wouldn't have done and he seems to have the hang on running the Empire.
And if they make Section 31 involved in overthrowing the Klingon Chancellor, I'll throw up. ****, I think I threw up a little just by thinking about it.
It is the Klingon way for someone(many someones probably) to challenge him, and succeed.
One of the funniest put downs of technobabble he's done .
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
No, the stupid part was the idea of having a crack in the event horizon at all. As Chuck so eloquently put it, that's like saying you can put a crack in the distance you can travel on a tank of gas and thereby go further.
Anytime somebody tries to claim Star Trek is harder sci-fi than Star Wars, I point at that episode.
Well, i still claim Star trek is "harder sci fi" than Star Wars. It's also softer sci if then Star Wars....
The point people seem to not get: Star Wars is not and never was sci fi. Star Wars never wanted to be sci fi.
Well, i still claim Star trek is "harder sci fi" than Star Wars. It's also softer sci if then Star Wars....
The point people seem to not get: Star Wars is not and never was sci fi. Star Wars never wanted to be sci fi.
The explanation of Mediclorians begs to differ(on not wanting to be scifi), Actually star Wars has one bit of Hard Scifi. In the Expanded universe, humans and Aliens can't interbreed. Not without gen tinkering and only with the original Sith species.
Near Human, are human offshoot species from the sleeper ship days 25,000+ years before the current story .
It is the Klingon way for someone(many someones probably) to challenge him, and succeed.
Yes it is. But he just recently challenged Martok and became a Chancellor.
And in order for someone to be able to challenge the Chancellor of the Empire, that certain someone needs to have evidence of the Chancellor's incompetence, treason or inability to properly fulfill the role of the Chancellor.
Think of it as challenging a honorless Captain for the command of a Klingon ship - only the first officer can do that and only if the first officer has clear evidence against the Captain. Otherwise anyone can challenge anyone else for anything just for the sake of it and it'll all end up in a bloodbath.
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and between the time Daniels showed Archer that and now even, allot of time has passed. who is to say some other time traveler has not gotten involved to change it after that point? we have allot of gaps in the trek time line that could allow for many new movies or series to add more canon content ot the prime universe.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
older alexander/K'mtar's reality no longer exists but he still visited the enterpise-d
Admiral janeway's reality was also wiped out as soon as she went to the past to get voyager home quicker
so many paradoxes i think the loss of the enterpise-j's future will not hurt any thing
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Arguable by canon evidence.
Guardian of Forever: McCoy goes to the past and alters history. Those close to and went through the gate are still in existence. As exceptions to the new time line.
Borg Sphere punches a hole in time: Enterprise E caught in the 'wake' is an exception to the new time line.
Voyager: Numerous, but show the existance of time travel enforcement with multiple exceptions. Also Krenim. 'Sits outside time'. Creating broken loop causality.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
being that close to the source of the thing that can generate portals to any given point in time would obviously protect anyone from subsequent changes, as would being caught in the wake of a temporal vortex
and as the krenim timeship sat outside time, obviously changes to it were not going to affect them in any way
the point still stands; it's basic temporal mechanics, not rocket science
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
And what about temporal enforcement? As introduced in Voyager, and continued with Daniels in Enterprise?
I mean he took Archer out of time for a brief visit to the future and wiped out his own timeline. (Except for himself by being out of time at the time. :rolleyes: ) Gets Archer returned home and hopefully ends up back in his own timeline. Then later can pull Archer out of time at will. . .
Thinking on this inconsistency is really making me think Holodeck the whole way. Even the broken future.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
* "Trials and Tribble-ations" being a notable exception. I love the part where Sisko admits to a minor violation of the Temporal PD by saying something to Kirk, only to have the DTI agent say, "Meh, frankly I'd've done the same."
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
That whole episode was fun. From Chief O'Brian not knowing how to do repairs to the Enterprise, to the culture shock of no one recognizing TOS Klingons.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
BAH! My Orion is no cannon fodder -.- And nor is any of my Romies
R.I.P
Actually I probably would have listened, after all the Klingons had a tendency to be very astute about those things
The way I see it it would be a series of episodes with a decision tree to allow the player to choose whether or not they side with or against J'Mpok. It would bring the feud between J'Mpok and the house of Martok to a conclusion. It would end with the demise of J'Mpok.
I want this primarily because my main Klingon comes from a family that supported Martok and that J'Mpok tried (unsuccessfully) to break and he has long yearned to be the one to end J'Mpok. He has no desire to challenge for the Council Leadership... he just wants the chance to battle J'Mpok and then stand over his broken body watching him bleed out
Shooting the event horizon of the black hole with phasers was always a particularity good example of the bad Voyager writing.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Want to get drunk? Park near the gravity of a collapsing planet or star.
Want to fly a sailboat FTL? Just wander into free floating tachyons.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
No, the stupid part was the idea of having a crack in the event horizon at all. As Chuck so eloquently put it, that's like saying you can put a crack in the distance you can travel on a tank of gas and thereby go further.
Anytime somebody tries to claim Star Trek is harder sci-fi than Star Wars, I point at that episode.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
I point to anything with Q myself.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
Ah a fellow SFDebris fan, awesome.
It is the Klingon way for someone(many someones probably) to challenge him, and succeed.
I thought WoW's forums had angry elitist snobs, but I never could have imagined the level STO forums has.
One of the funniest put downs of technobabble he's done
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Well, i still claim Star trek is "harder sci fi" than Star Wars. It's also softer sci if then Star Wars....
The point people seem to not get: Star Wars is not and never was sci fi. Star Wars never wanted to be sci fi.
The explanation of Mediclorians begs to differ(on not wanting to be scifi), Actually star Wars has one bit of Hard Scifi. In the Expanded universe, humans and Aliens can't interbreed. Not without gen tinkering and only with the original Sith species.
Near Human, are human offshoot species from the sleeper ship days 25,000+ years before the current story .
Yes it is. But he just recently challenged Martok and became a Chancellor.
And in order for someone to be able to challenge the Chancellor of the Empire, that certain someone needs to have evidence of the Chancellor's incompetence, treason or inability to properly fulfill the role of the Chancellor.
Think of it as challenging a honorless Captain for the command of a Klingon ship - only the first officer can do that and only if the first officer has clear evidence against the Captain. Otherwise anyone can challenge anyone else for anything just for the sake of it and it'll all end up in a bloodbath.