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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    kirk2390 wrote: »
    Dude, really? Those interviews are nearly 2 year old, from when he still worked at Cryptic.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • grazyc2#7847 grazyc2 Member Posts: 1,988 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Dude, really? Those interviews are nearly 2 year old, from when he still worked at Cryptic.

    I know, I know, I admit I was wrong men don't be upset about it. Men makes mistake you don't have to shoot me .... :P
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  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    kirk2390 wrote: »
    I know, I know, I admit I was wrong men don't be upset about it. Men makes mistake you don't have to shoot me .... :P

    actually, new regulations came out last week. anyone making a mistake must be shot... 10 times for each mistake make.
  • knuhteb5knuhteb5 Member Posts: 1,831 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Dude, really? Those interviews are nearly 2 year old, from when he still worked at Cryptic.

    Yes, and we have more fleet equipment and the dyson rep. We also have a ton more lock box doffs, lock box ships, and the rommie boffs. His statements about pvp being a fail are still pertinent.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    knuhteb5 wrote: »
    Yes, and we have more fleet equipment and the dyson rep. We also have a ton more lock box doffs, lock box ships, and the rommie boffs. His statements about pvp being a fail are still pertinent.
    No one was debating Gozer's statement. We were debating Kirk2390's post that they were made recently. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • knuhteb5knuhteb5 Member Posts: 1,831 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    No one was debating Gozer's statement. We were debating Kirk2390's post that they were made recently. :)

    Yes, I realize that. But my point still stands :P
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  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    kirk2390 wrote: »

    Yes, from the dark ages back in the dim past when he actually worked for Cryptic. Wow. Just...wow. :rolleyes:
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Who, exactly, do you think Gozer is? I have a feeling he is not who you think he is.

    According to the Internet:
    Gozer (also known as Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler and Lord of the Sebouillia) is the main antagonist of Ghostbusters and also makes an appearance in Ghostbusters: The Video Game. An ancient, ultra-powerful, malignant entity from another dimension who was summoned to New York City to destroy the world. Gozer was originally worshiped as a god by the Hittites, Mesopotamians, and the Sumerians around 6000 BC. Gozer is genderless (though it first appears as a female in the movie). It was worshiped by the powerful Cult of Gozer. Gozer has two trusted minions – themselves worshiped as demi-gods – that are harbingers of destruction and primary agents for Its coming: Vinz Clortho, The Keymaster and Zuul, The Gatekeeper. Gozer has visited our world twice, in 1984 and 1991, both times assuming the form of the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.

    What they leave out though is his work making every end-game adventure in STO glitchy. And it's commentary about how a content drought sometime after 6000 BC but prior to 2409 never existed because Section 31 uniform counted as content.

    Which was ... yet another slap in the face.

    You see why we must strip down to our bare mk x's? We must set ourselves free! By going set free! If we do this like shorty in that Gang Starr song (Just to get a rep) we'll end up like Desean Jackson (claiming a set). No, the inhumanity to our avatars must end here!

    Let us all join together in communion and community. Bank our rep gear. And show Cryptic we mean bizness!
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Doesn't he use a ping pong ball gun too?
    He has 3 actually, the third is a gun that shoots gum to temporarily immobilize you.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    What they leave out though is his work making every end-game adventure in STO glitchy. And it's commentary about how a content drought sometime after 6000 BC but prior to 2409 never existed because Section 31 uniform counted as content.

    Which was ... yet another slap in the face.
    That is a complex definition issue. I also consider new C-Store/Lobi Store, and even new drop items, to be Content. That is why I always specify Mission Content when talking about missions over other types of Content. :)
    You see why we must strip down to our bare mk x's? We must set ourselves free! By going set free! If we do this like shorty in that Gang Starr song (Just to get a rep) we'll end up like Desean Jackson (claiming a set). No, the inhumanity to our avatars must end here!

    Let us all join together in communion and community. Bank our rep gear. And show Cryptic we mean bizness!
    Most of my characters are already only using drop gear as the Rep gear makes it all too simple. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • adorenkoadorenko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    I am sorry, but that is a very shortsighted statement. Most games are not the same today as they were 4 years ago. MMOs are constantly evolving to offset player and economic expectations. Most MMOs try to offset power creep by adding tougher content and expansion packs, but you never really get ahead of it because every time something new and cool is added it simply adds to the power creep - which leads to more expansions and more harder content.

    I don't think my statement was shortsighted but the path that Cryptic has taken with reps and game progression might be. I played WoW for over 3 years and reps never changed, the thing that did was level cap increases, which is part of the game developments shortsightedness. I'm not suggesting that this be the path that should be taken as you would have to change soooo many elements of the game. A new level cap would definitely get ahead of "power creep" though. With the games current state I couldn't see how Cryptic would do this though i.e. zen ship purchases, fleet mechanics, passive skills as percentages, rep system rewards and so on. I'm talking very hypothetical right now, before everyone jumps down my throat.

    Edit: when I say OP I say this from the point of view of Tank right now as I haven't gotten too much into Tac or Sci.

    Personally I haven't noticed a huge benefit with these passives, I think more of our "power" comes from items, synergy of items, skills, ship types and so forth. A passive you have might be that difference from a bonus kill or surviving with 2 or 3 hull strength to get away and heal up. I don't think they are making anyone OP, just a slight bump. From my experience I haven't experienced many times where I got away 2 or 3 hull, I usually just blow up. I did experience a bonus kill with the Mirror Universe event with literally 1 second left on the clock though, so that was cool, we could probably attribute that last push to a passive I guess or maybe our group should have done better to avoid it coming down to the last second.

    These are just my ideas, that doesn't make them right just my opinion. I'm of the mind set of not losing anything, I might be, what you consider a virtual hoarder and don't like to lose things. In fact they could nerf these passives or diminish them by a certain percentage each time a new rep comes out to handle "power creep" and I wouldn't care just so long as I get to keep them all. I know this view isn't exactly practical but it goes back to the rep system as it currently is not being well thought out for when we start getting 6 or 7 or 8 reps. That's what new level caps would have taken care of and in a more elegant manor I think, fixing this issue this way is more clunky and clumsy.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    That is a complex definition issue. I also consider new C-Store/Lobi Store, and even new drop items, to be Content. That is why I always specify Mission Content when talking about missions over other types of Content. :)

    Man, if I had known that then, I might have avoided that Gozer slap. Damn, that kind of makes me reminisce about the good ole days.

    Most of my characters are already only using drop gear as the Rep gear makes it all too simple. :)

    I think that brings this movement's membership up to FIVE! We keep on growing!
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  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    kirk2390 wrote: »
    I know, I know, I admit I was wrong men don't be upset about it. Men makes mistake you don't have to shoot me .... :P

    Shooting the messenger and shooting the wounded are both time-honored customs in the Empire. :D
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    kirk2390 wrote: »
    To Op,

    I support your group I feel your right to defend what is rightfully ours.
    I never did touch the stuff because I don't believe 200 ours labor earns me much more than just a bonus set.

    My Idea however would be to stop converting dill to zen and start seriously upgrade the zen store with stuff. Remove the Lobi store and convert it in the ZEN store.
    I believe this way they would make way more money, I personally never bought a lockbox key to unlock a box only to sell keys for EC.

    I wish they seriously consider the request to boost weapons who were nerved to death.
    I seriously hope cryptic see this post as serious and make a staff meeting and consider for those with not as much time to put in a box or whatever you can buy instead of grinds.

    Thats all

    Wait! I missed this in my count. We're up to six now!

    On an unrelated to the movement note ... I find your idea for converting things to the c-store fascinating. That has some merit and is worth discussing.
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  • adorenkoadorenko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Am I counted?
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    adorenko wrote: »
    Am I counted?

    You are now! Welcome to the revolution!
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  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    saihung423 wrote: »
    I'll list some of the things I get truly upset about and fight back on.


    In Delaware, an heir to the Dupont family was convicted of molesting his 3 yr. old daughter and given 8 years probation because the judge said "he would not fare well in prison"..

    this person should be SHOT. period no need to worry how they would do in prison.
    saihung423 wrote: »
    In San Francisco's Mission District a young man was shot and killed by police for allegedly pointing a stun gun at cops, though eye witness accounts say he was holding a burrito and his stun gun was in the holster..

    cant say much about this. some cops are good some are bad, human nature and all. but a law that would provide any public employee or elected official a mandatory tripling of punishment for betrayal of the public trust would keep a few of them in line, just out of fear .
    saihung423 wrote: »
    In the United States there has been more oil spilled from train wrecks in 2013 than the previous 40 years and yet they are not broadcast on the news..

    fuel prices are so high rail transport is about all that's affordable now. watch atlas shrugged kinda like a glimpse of the future.
    saihung423 wrote: »
    The US spends more money on maintaining it's prison population in one year than it has on rehabilitation in the last 20..

    yes we spend too much on prisons here , more prisoners should be put to death faster. and families charged for the maintence and upkeep of the rest. along with rotating shifts, each prisoner works 8 hours, 8 hours personal time feeding cleaning rest in common areas exercise what ever. 8 hour rack time. that allows each bed to be used by 3 prisoners. tripling our capacity. the rehabilitation should be in NOT WANTING TO RETURN.
    saihung423 wrote: »
    I protest and get worked up over real world issues, not perceived slights made against me and my imaginary video game characters..
    saihung423 wrote: »
    I, personally, just can't get worked up over something that has not altered the quality of life for anyone.

    I protest what ever bothers me and time I have invested in.
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  • shandypandyshandypandy Member Posts: 632 Arc User
    edited April 2014
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    erei1 wrote: »
    and yet, people feel like they are nerfed ?

    I really don't understand.

    Think of it as you sitting at your computer and then the tiny hands of the devs reach out from your screen and open hand slap you across the face. It's a lot easier to understand when you use the imagery of the devs slapping you in the face.
    jarfaru wrote: »
    Wow this coming from Snoogymack22. I feel like i'm in the twilight zone.

    Think of it more as that old crabby former poster Superchum and not this Snoggy person. It works better that way.
    I have always said the rep.system would ruin this game and got nothing but flamed for it. I have stopped doing the rep.TRIBBLE awhile ago and i'm enjoying the game more so cause of it. They will will keep adding more TRIBBLE in the system in place of real content. They will never stop, so to enjoy the game we need to let it go. What really kills me is the players that won't stand up against them turning the game into what many outside it call TRIBBLE grind. It comes down to if we want a better game we have to do something about it like Snoogymack22. I know it took guts for him to make that post. I say good for him.

    I think we're closing in on 10! With 10 revolutionaries, we are getting so strong now!
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  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    If you're truely fed up with cryptic and you still play this game, you deserve to get slapped in the face. I'm sick and tired of the whining over how "bad" the game is yet people still login. Either stop playing or stop whining.
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    edited April 2014
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  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    chiyoumiku wrote: »
    If you're truely fed up with cryptic and you still play this game, you deserve to get slapped in the face. I'm sick and tired of the whining over how "bad" the game is yet people still login. Either stop playing or stop whining.

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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Are you okay Snoggy? You've been developing this unhealthy obsession with slapping and faces lately.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,282 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Are you okay Snoggy? You've been developing this unhealthy obsession with slapping and faces lately.
    maybe his secret BDSM alter-ego is leaking through
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    chiyoumiku wrote: »
    If you're truely fed up with cryptic and you still play this game, you deserve to get slapped in the face. I'm sick and tired of the whining over how "bad" the game is yet people still login. Either stop playing or stop whining.

    i love ppl like you whining about whining
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    chiyoumiku wrote: »
    If you're truely fed up with cryptic and you still play this game, you deserve to get slapped in the face. I'm sick and tired of the whining over how "bad" the game is yet people still login.

    Me too my man. Meeeeee too! That's why I came up with this vision. This idea. Of togetherness and community. Where we all band together and RISE UP! We stop the devs from their face slapping. We take the power back. We get what we deserve! As a unit, we can't be stopped!

    It's all about passives right? So the best way to resist this big ole slap in the face with the passive nerfs, is ... passive resistance! And what better way to set ourselves free of the continually nerfed rep grind, than to set ourselves free or those sets? Get set free by going set free! You see?

    But it's gotta be us. All of us. In this together. Passive resisting the nerfing of passive resistances. Ya dig?

    So jump on board the anti-slappy bandwagon! We gots plenty of room!
    Are you okay Snoggy? You've been developing this unhealthy obsession with slapping and faces lately.

    I'm doing good. I have been binge watching How I Met Your Mother on Netflix though. That might explain ...

    Well ...

    Nah, couldn't be!
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I'm doing good. I have been binge watching How I Met Your Mother on Netflix though. That might explain ...

    Well ...

    Nah, couldn't be!

    You sure? That doesn't seem like a good idea on a tuesday evening.
  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited April 2014
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    You sure? That doesn't seem like a good idea on a tuesday evening.

    I've resisted the urge to watch Robin Sparkles while drinking Absinthe. Baby steps!
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    jexsamx wrote: »

    Not sure. Have you tried using the shaming stick when it wasn't your turn?
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