They should make this new science ship an account wide unlock. Do this stupid and boring grind 1 time and unlock it for all of your toons. Or, just give it to us for doing the anniversary mission once.
For those going on about how the devs said that they were taking in our feedback and did nothing to change it: You got to remember that unless it's something big like a forum vote for what we want to next see in the game, They won't make any dramatic changes. When it comes to trival matters like a grind, most of us are the minority.
I have 7 characters (considering getting an eighth during the event) and I know it'll take me a while to get the ship for all of them. However, I'm willing to spend a little extra time doing it for all of them because I really want those ships.
There's only been one ship I didn't have the patience for and that was for the summer grind. All the other ships that they've given away I have collected at least on some characters.
For the new anniversary Voyager mission, please make it playable by low level characters. I'm making a science toon, and don't have time to get the character to level 50.
most events are ML 10 so that roms can play them the moment they get access to their alliance, but after said event missions are placed somewhere in the leveling process.
I cant believe it has been 4 years. From day 0ne to today he games has become night and day. the game is on the right track. What this game really need is more Stf like the borg one in all the other faction. Happy Birthday Star Trek Online
because it's a different event, the winter event and anniversary are 2 different events.... thats like asking why they cant use their QPic's to get the risian corvette, it's to prevent those who run the race every single day to have a headstart on a completely seperate event.
This would work...if the people emphasizing how hard they're listening (that would be Cryptic) gave a [censored].
But the fact that they're "closely monitoring this thread" for all its "valuable feedback" and have since announced that we're still to grab our ankles and chase Q for a while makes clear the reality: "We care enough to make a pretense of listening, while we go ahead and do whatever we've decided anyway. Thanks for your feedback, hamsters, now get on your wheels and get to it if you want your so-called 'gift' from us. But hey, we're adding a new way to buy your way to the head of the line, so enjoy!" :rolleyes:
The solution is simple at this point, if they really won't listen to player feedback, speak with your wallet. An abundance of monthly golds suspending their payments around the same time, C-store purchases seeing a hefty drop, and overall player activity falling with an specific focus on avoiding the Anniversary event this year would send the message loud and clear. It just depends on if people really have the integrity to stick with it and not just roll over because they don't want to 'Miss out'. That 'missing out' is the hook that intentionally try to keep you from doing such. It's a psychological element of control.
The mentality of players being cash-cows and can just be milked for all they got without actually providing them a fun experience is a growing cancer in the industry. Compounding it, is that far too many consumers are complacent in it, and think they can't do anything to change it. But you can, by not patronizing those who practice it, refusing to fund these kinds of despicable mechanisms. Your money is what keeps games going, good or bad, if you refuse to support such things, they will falter. The smarter ones will recognize and adapt to the needs of the players to survive.
The solution is simple at this point, if they really won't listen to player feedback, speak with your wallet. An abundance of monthly golds suspending their payments around the same time, C-store purchases seeing a hefty drop, and overall player activity falling with an specific focus on avoiding the Anniversary event this year would send the message loud and clear. It just depends on if people really have the integrity to stick with it and not just roll over because they don't want to 'Miss out'. That 'missing out' is the hook that intentionally try to keep you from doing such. It's a psychological element of control.
The mentality of players being cash-cows and can just be milked for all they got without actually providing them a fun experience is a growing cancer in the industry. Compounding it, is that far too many consumers are complacent in it, and think they can't do anything to change it. But you can, by not patronizing those who practice it, refusing to fund these kinds of despicable mechanisms. Your money is what keeps games going, good or bad, if you refuse to support such things, they will falter. The smarter ones will recognize and adapt to the needs of the players to survive.
That's all very true, but without the numbers behind it, your personal contribution has little impact. For it to have influence, the masses must act in unison. That's easier said than done.
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I'd be tempted to build up a backlog. Unless they listen to us, you can bet your bottom dollar that this grind will be back for the 5th Anniversary.
At the current rate I will be jaw-dropped SHOCKED if this game has a 5th anniversary. I honestly feel it's going to implode with a mass-exodus of 90% of its player base leaving and upset. Maybe not the second they institute the latest grind, but this grind is literally paving the way for institutionalized grinding on an unheard of scale in STO. I think that before another year passes they will have driven the game into a horrible, fiery, grindy death.
"As we shared with you earlier, these incredible new ships are also pre-equipped with a secondary deflector. In late February (next month), we?ll be releasing a 3-pack C-Store bundle of each factional Dyson Science Destroyer, and each of those ships will feature a fantastic new console, in addition to upgraded stats, including a 10th console slot."
in blog #45
well they're making us grind for a 9 console ship... and selling a 10 console in the C-store which will have 3 version packs for each faction!....
and they're making us grind for a 9 console version!!!...
so everyone else is mad that we get a junk ship and have to pay for the real thing. sad to see such a change in you cryptic. At least the free ody we got a long time ago was good. These are not and you're making us grind for it.
I'm hoping that Cryptic decides to at the very least remove the cool down timer from this new Anniversary Grind so that the players can decided for themselves when they want to complete the grinding while the event is active but with the new pay for cool down reset ticket coming with the event I doubt that this will happen.
Has I said before I have no problem with Cryptic trying to make money but to use the Anniversary event in this way just reeks of wrong.
If no changes are made to the current plans for this unneeded Anniversary Grind then the final free c-store gift needs to be a useful ship for each faction to help quell some of the rage IMO.
FANTASTIC news for me - the 10 console.versions will be coming to the c-store as a 3 pack account wide unlock!! Not even having to go the fleet version route and account wide is Amazing!! Dream come true for us science players!! That and I will not do the mini-Qs grind. Ya!!
so everyone else is mad that we get a junk ship and have to pay for the real thing. sad to see such a change in you cryptic. At least the free ody we got a long time ago was good. These are not and you're making us grind for it.
FANTASTIC news for me - the 10 console.versions will be coming to the c-store as a 3 pack account wide unlock!! Not even having to go the fleet version route and account wide is Amazing!! Dream come true for us science players!! That and I will not do the mini-Qs grind. Ya!!
yay for you. and i seriously mean that. if you want to buy the three pack it means you can skip the new grind they added. the fact that they are messing with the anniversary event is still wrong though.
Not to mention that now that a zen version is confirmed, this sip will replace the veteran ship and now the vet ship is a worthless piece of junk. I along with thousands of others payed to support the game and get the perks for doing so, and now they are taking a stab at us.
FANTASTIC news for me - the 10 console.versions will be coming to the c-store as a 3 pack account wide unlock!! Not even having to go the fleet version route and account wide is Amazing!! Dream come true for us science players!! That and I will not do the mini-Qs grind. Ya!!
This could be good for the KDF since the faction is really lacking in the science department. So now KDF players will have another C-Store science option besides the Varanus and they wouldn't have to grind their brains out.
I only hope the C-Store ones will come with a faction specific skin and not this inapropriate 'Dyson purple'.
In between all the wrong decisions they made for the anniverary, they at least had the honesty to tell people that there will be a C-Store pack before the grind started, so people like you that want the ships wouldn't even have to consider a boring miniQ grind.
With the fantastic news that there will be a account wide cstore 10 console versions of the new Dyson hybrid ships coming at the end of February - us long suffering Science heavy Romulans and KDF players will finally have fleet worth T5.5 science ships!!
I want to add a special thanks for making these 10 console versions cstore account wide unlocks rather that account only fleet ships locked behind a T5 shipyard or a T3 spire.
I know many might balk at the idea of these - but cryptic has made the right move putting these ships into the Cstore vs the fleet system. We all knew a 10 console version was coming and I am glad that they will be cstore.
Now my romulans and Klingon toon's will finally have decent end game science ships. I already have enough fed science ships so I may pass on those.
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See, I take a different view. I am going to play it.
I'm just not going to enjoy it.
I have 7 characters (considering getting an eighth during the event) and I know it'll take me a while to get the ship for all of them. However, I'm willing to spend a little extra time doing it for all of them because I really want those ships.
There's only been one ship I didn't have the patience for and that was for the summer grind. All the other ships that they've given away I have collected at least on some characters.
My character Tsin'xing
So these are like the winter photos of Q from what Ive gathered and the 400 Qmark bonus seems nice BUT
Should I run all days and save the extras for next year? or will it be a useless effort?
Shouldn't these QMs have been Q glossies?
because it's a different event, the winter event and anniversary are 2 different events.... thats like asking why they cant use their QPic's to get the risian corvette, it's to prevent those who run the race every single day to have a headstart on a completely seperate event.
i wouldn't bother going the extra mile on this one. I don't see saving for next year being beneficial like with the Winter and Summer events.
I'd be tempted to build up a backlog. Unless they listen to us, you can bet your bottom dollar that this grind will be back for the 5th Anniversary.
The solution is simple at this point, if they really won't listen to player feedback, speak with your wallet. An abundance of monthly golds suspending their payments around the same time, C-store purchases seeing a hefty drop, and overall player activity falling with an specific focus on avoiding the Anniversary event this year would send the message loud and clear. It just depends on if people really have the integrity to stick with it and not just roll over because they don't want to 'Miss out'. That 'missing out' is the hook that intentionally try to keep you from doing such. It's a psychological element of control.
The mentality of players being cash-cows and can just be milked for all they got without actually providing them a fun experience is a growing cancer in the industry. Compounding it, is that far too many consumers are complacent in it, and think they can't do anything to change it. But you can, by not patronizing those who practice it, refusing to fund these kinds of despicable mechanisms. Your money is what keeps games going, good or bad, if you refuse to support such things, they will falter. The smarter ones will recognize and adapt to the needs of the players to survive.
That's all very true, but without the numbers behind it, your personal contribution has little impact. For it to have influence, the masses must act in unison. That's easier said than done.
At the current rate I will be jaw-dropped SHOCKED if this game has a 5th anniversary. I honestly feel it's going to implode with a mass-exodus of 90% of its player base leaving and upset. Maybe not the second they institute the latest grind, but this grind is literally paving the way for institutionalized grinding on an unheard of scale in STO. I think that before another year passes they will have driven the game into a horrible, fiery, grindy death.
in blog #45
well they're making us grind for a 9 console ship... and selling a 10 console in the C-store which will have 3 version packs for each faction!....
and they're making us grind for a 9 console version!!!...
:mad:
system Lord Baal is dead
Has I said before I have no problem with Cryptic trying to make money but to use the Anniversary event in this way just reeks of wrong.
If no changes are made to the current plans for this unneeded Anniversary Grind then the final free c-store gift needs to be a useful ship for each faction to help quell some of the rage IMO.
They're making you grind for a 4 set bonus.
yay for you. and i seriously mean that. if you want to buy the three pack it means you can skip the new grind they added. the fact that they are messing with the anniversary event is still wrong though.
Not to mention that now that a zen version is confirmed, this sip will replace the veteran ship and now the vet ship is a worthless piece of junk. I along with thousands of others payed to support the game and get the perks for doing so, and now they are taking a stab at us.
Only reason to do the anniversary ship is to get a special 4 piece bonus you can't get from the store versions.
Still waiting to be able to use forum titles
This could be good for the KDF since the faction is really lacking in the science department. So now KDF players will have another C-Store science option besides the Varanus and they wouldn't have to grind their brains out.
I only hope the C-Store ones will come with a faction specific skin and not this inapropriate 'Dyson purple'.
In between all the wrong decisions they made for the anniverary, they at least had the honesty to tell people that there will be a C-Store pack before the grind started, so people like you that want the ships wouldn't even have to consider a boring miniQ grind.
I want to add a special thanks for making these 10 console versions cstore account wide unlocks rather that account only fleet ships locked behind a T5 shipyard or a T3 spire.
I know many might balk at the idea of these - but cryptic has made the right move putting these ships into the Cstore vs the fleet system. We all knew a 10 console version was coming and I am glad that they will be cstore.
Now my romulans and Klingon toon's will finally have decent end game science ships. I already have enough fed science ships so I may pass on those.
system Lord Baal is dead